Threshers Recap – 7/21/2019

Box Score Recap

Former Phillies’ prospect, Zach Green, made his major league debut with the San Francisco Giants Sunday.  He went 2 for 3 with a double and RBI.  Good for Zach.

Clearwater (15-17, 51-47)  lost to St. Lucie, 6-3.

Andrew Brown pitched five innings and allowed 2 runs on 5 hits.  He walked one and struck out two.  Omar Marcelino went two innings and gave up 3 runs on 3 hits and 2 walks.  Michael Gomez gave up a run on 2 hits in one inning of work.

The Threshers tied the game in the third inning on Luke Miller’s RBI single.  They took the lead in the fifth on Miller’s sac fly.  And, they took the lead again in the sixth on a fielder’s choice.

Miller (.281) had 2 hits and 2 RBI.  Dalton Guthrie (.243) also had 2 hits.

Miller also had an outfield assist.

Lehigh Valley (47-51)  lost to Norfolk, 4-3.  

Enyel De Los Santos pitched six innings and gave up 4 runs on 8 hits.  He walked none and struck out four.  Austin Davis pitched a perfect inning in relief.  Edgar Garcia pitched a scoreless, one-hit inning.

The IronPigs come back from a 4-0 deficit fell short.  They scored a run in the sixth inning on Deivy Grullon’s RBI double.  They scored 2 runs in the eighth on RBI singles by Austin Listi and Jan Hernandez.

Grullon (.300) went 3-4 with a run scored, double, and RBI.  Ali Castillo (.299) and Listi (.339) had 2 hits each.

Reading (20-11, 59-39)  lost to Hew Hampshire, 16-1.

Adonis Medina suffered through a real clunker.  He gave up 8 runs in 2.2 innings.  Cleavinger and Singer shut the Fisher Cats down for 4.1 innings, but Carrasco gave up 3 runs in a third of an inning.  Jonathan Hennigan pitched 0.2 innings before turning the pitching duties over to catcher Henri Lartigue who gave up 5 more runs.

Mickey Moniak (.270) provided most of the Phils’ offense, going 2-2 with a run scored, double, HR (5),RBI (43) and 2 walks.

Lakewood (10-19, 39-60)  lost to Kannapolis, 5-4.

Kevin Gowdy pitched four innings and gave up 3 runs on 6 hits and 3 walks.  He struck out three.  Gowdy threw 83 pitches, 45 strikes.  Andrew Schultz got the loss when a two-base error allowed two walks to score in an inning where he struck out the side.  Omar Maldonado pitched three scoreless innings.

The BlueClaws scored three runs in the fourth inning on Hunter Stovall’s 2-run single and Malvin Matos’ RBI single.  They scored another run in the sixth on Cole Stobbe’s solo HR (9).  Matos and Rafael Marchan (.276) had 2 hits each.

Williamsport (10-25) lost to State College, 5-2.

Adam Leverett allowed 2 runs in four innings on 6 hits and a walk.  He struck out three.  Erik Miller pitched three, 2-hit innings.  He walked 2 and struck out three.  Adam Cox pitched one inning and gave up 3 runs on one hit and 4 walks.

The Cutters scored a run in the fourth inning on Herbert Iser’s sac fly.  They added a run in the sixth on Bryson Stott’s game tying, solo HR (2).

Stott (.304) went 2-4 and slugged his second Williamsport HR.

Logan O’Hoppe went 3-4.  The redst of the team had 2 hits.

Corbin Williams stole his 19th base.

GCL Phillies East (11-9)  no game scheduled.

GCL Phillies West (14-5)  no game scheduled.

DSL Phillies Red (26-12) no game scheduled.

DSL Phillies White (25-17)  no game scheduled.

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

The rosters and lists are up to date as of July 21st … there are 398 players in the org

Today’s Transactions (newest transactions in bold text)
7/21/19 – Phillies designated RHP Fernando Salas for assignment
7/21/19 – Phillies signed free agent LHP Drew Smyly
7/20/19 – Victor Santos assigned to Williamsport from Lakewood
7/20/19 – Phillies transferred Seranthony Dominguez from the 10- to the 60-day IL, UCL
7/20/19 – Phillies optioned RHP JD Hammer to Lehigh Valley
7/20/19 – Minnesota traded RHP Mike Morin to Phillies for cash
7/20/19 – RHP Omar Maldonado assigned to Lakewood from Williamsport

60 thoughts on “Threshers Recap – 7/21/2019”

  1. I can see Stott being moved to LKW after another 20/25 games with the Crosscutters the way he is currently hitting.

    1. I don’t think August 1st or the first week of August is out of the question for Stott’s move up. Someone suggested he skip LKW entirely and move straight to CLW. Certainly neither Wmsprt nor LKW are showing any signs of life concerning playoffs or even getting into contention. CLW might give him a little taste of that but it is his 1st year of professional ball and just getting his reps, as he moves up the organization, is most important. Keep your bags packed, Mr Stott, you don’t want to get too settled in your current spot.

      1. It’s not good to put too much stock into less than a half season’s worth of stats anyway. Whether Stott stays in Williamsport or goes to Lakewood, I don’t think it really matters this year. I expect him to start next season in Clearwater either way.

    2. Not to dump on Luis Garcia as his struggles continue in Lakewood, but perhaps switching him with Stott sooner would be better. I would like to see how Garcia responded and if the move would actually help him hit the refresh button in Williamsport before the season ended.

      1. Development plans are drawn up with contingencies. Garcia’s aggressive assignment included the contingency of repeating Lakewood if he struggled the way he has.

    3. Definitely agree. No need to leave him there long if he continues like this. It can also help gauge where he may start next yr. (Lkw or even Clw)

  2. Hope abounds from yesterday’s results…

    Moniak: It’s like he heard of Keith Law’s comments and said I’ll show you! He’s at his highest BA and OPS on the season. And 2 more bb!

    Stott: Continues strong start to professional career!

    O’Hoppe: Now hitting .384 in past 9 games w/3 hr. Both slow start and hit streak are sss, but love seeing the latest trend.

    Bohm: yeah I know he went 0-3, but I’m still smiling about his TWO hr the day before. 🙂

    1. Bohm is looking like the real deal, which is a huge shot in the arm for this team, if it continues to materialIze.

      1B- Bohm
      2B – Kingery
      SS – Segura
      3B – Rendon
      C – Realmuto
      RF – Harper
      CF – Quinn/Haselely
      LF – Mccutchen
      DH – Hoskins

      We can dream

        1. Hey, we can dream. If not , Bohm at 3B. Hopefully they don’t have to experiment with Hoskins back in LF. Doubtful but who knows with Gabe/or the analytics say. Moniak and Haselely could force their way into the convo as well.

          1. You can dream, but if we think Bohm is going to be a first division regular at the least, why would you even want this? You have the possibility of a cheap good to great player at third. That gives you the ability to dedicate resources elsewhere, like how about starting pitching?

            Anyway, it’s nice to see Moniak continue to progress. He’s increasingly hitting for more power and the improved plate discipline is huge – probably the biggest development for him this year, perhaps in his whole career.

            1. In his nine starts since the all-star break Bohm has started five times at 3B, three times at 1B and once as DH. I want to know why, if Bohm is the future 3B, he isn’t starting every game at 3B. He won’t learn to play 3B playing 1B or at DH. I don’t understand the Phillies.

            2. It’s their philosophy no matter who.

              If they had the 1927 Yankees Ruth would also play at first, Gehrig in left, Dickey at first and Tony Lazzeri would be our supersub.

            3. I understand the thinking generally, but not really in this case, with a player slotted for one spot and who needs to improve at that spot. Once in a while at first would be fine (Hoskins injury), but more than that doesn’t make sense.

            4. Well, I believe Middleton will push past the luxury tax threshold soon, add pitching to it as well.
              Part of this “dreaming” is to think about how the DH will impact the Phillies roster. The questions about bohm being able to stick at 3rd. It lll all get shaken out, but yes I do hope thAt the FO can manage the payroll effectively. Adding Rendon is a nice chunk of money – but if the DH comes, the payroll should be raised as well. Will see what happens. O and while I’m at it, I also dream of the Phillies scouts drafting better as well. Ill also double down on this, by putting it #1 on my Christmas list. Santa usually comes through for me. You’re all welcome!

            5. Why would the salary cap move? The AL has had the DH for years and they operate under the same cap already.

              Signing Rendon would be a perfect example of the misuse of resources if they think that Bohm can play the position. Going over the luxury tax should be saved for improving areas that need significant help (Pitching), not replacing a potentially good position option with a better one..

      2. If you want to dream, why not dream for the best players in your line up. Dream that Mike Trout changed his mind and demand a trade to the Phillies for Mitch Walding. The Phillies have a big hole in the CF so Mike Trout fits like a glove.

          1. Ow shoot….I forgot about that. Sorry to wake you up. I like Rendon too so keep on dreaming my friend!!! LoL!!

            But honestly, I think with Bohm and Stott coming soon, the bats should be OK. I like to dream on a Phillies team with power arms!

            1. Yeah, I’m bullish on Bohm now, and Stott as well,
              His swing looks “professional”

              Off all the pitchers, I’m betting the farm on Howard. I think that is all the Phillies will need from the farm to mix in with FA/trades. Then they can wait on this years class and thr low A ballers in a few years. Hopefully by then the scouts will have found another pitcher.

            2. Stott’s hustle impresses me. I only have seen a few clips, but when he hits a home run, he is still hustling out of the box.

            3. I think the Phillies already figured out something in their draft strategy post RAJ. Prioritizing a college bat is possibly one of them with Haseley, Bohm and Stott looking like they belong to the majors. And this includes Kingery who is also a Day 1 pick.

              The Phillies are now figuring out their approach on the pitching side. Bullpen arms seems to be a strength, but power arms still remains to be seen.

            5. Kurdt, the Phillies under Matt Klentak drafted Mickey Moniak over Nick Sensei (the best college bat) in 2016. It was only after they messed up the 2016 draft that they went toward college hitters. Sensei could have replaced Mikal Franco at Third Base rather easily.

  3. Last 10 games for Gowdy:
    TOTALS 0 2 4.04 0 35.2 46 16 15 21
    Picking up his K/BB ratio, hits are higher than we’d like. Looking forward to seeing what he can put together for the second half of his season.

  4. It would have been cool to see Green playing at CBP. He and Hoskins were high school teammates, and a reunion in the big leagues would have been cool to see. (That said, Zach spent a lot of time in the Phillies org and didn’t do enough to earn the call-up).

    1. If he could have avoided all the absences from the injuries and then there was the feet /leg issues that really hampered his development in the Phillies system.
      But he elected to leave thru Rule 55…minor league free agency… on his own accord. And it looks like he made the right choice to sign on with the Giants org..

    2. I didn’t know they were high school teammates. That must have been quite a fearsome lineup!

      Green was crushing it in the PCL (though who doesn’t…) and is still only 25, which seems impossible. Like Jim said, good for him.

        1. Speaking of former Phillies prospects doing very good things … Will Stewart nearly tossed a no-hitter this weekend.

          I think that Phillies/Marlins swap is going to go down as a win for both organizations.

  5. Zach Green is in right place at the right time.

    A former teammate in Independent League was in Detroit minor leagues and was an old day Mickey Moniak type player. He was behind Kaline, Horton, Stanley, Northrup, Gates Brown and Elliott Maddox and never got out of Toledo. Came and tore up our league but was in his 30’s so no hope of signing back to MLB. Never sniffed The Show, not even a cup of coffee.

  6. Austin Listi still raking. We are soon getting past SSS issues. The guy has been flat out awesome for about 2 months and doesn’t seem to be slowing down very much.

    1. At some point this season, Phillies ought to think about him for LF if Nick Williams does not come around.
      Ken Rosenthal thinks the Phillies may part with Maikel by next week and move Kingery to third for the remainder of the season, Hasely/Quinn man CF……maybe Listi can move into LF.

      1. Logan Morrison might be up shortly. Williams has to be traded. He needs a fresh start. Franco could go quickly. We’ll see. As for Medina, that was just an awful game. And DLS didn’t change any minds either. Listi is hitting his way up but LF needs to open up. I don’t think he can play 3b in the majors but who knows, Miller is playing and he’s terrible there.
        Sorry for the Phillies talk but pieces are connected right now. It’s possible Moniak could be playing elsewhere in a week. He could headline a deal with DLS and Williams (and Franco). 10 days…

    2. Listi could be the Phillies version of Pete Alonso……maybe a poor man’s version.

      1. His scouting report was two PLUS pitches (fastball and curve). He’s always had a slider and change, as well, but they were previously below average. Sounds like he’s improved them.

  8. Still waiting to see the Adonis Medina that so many scouts love, results have not been worthy of his rankings.

      1. @Hinke, we’ve been in the same page in a lot of polarizing topics and Adonis Medina is one of them. I’m optimistic about Medina’s success in the majors. There will be struggle like most major league pitchers do, but Medina can be a solid arm in the rotation for years to come. Medina has better pedigree than the young arms in the roster – Pivetta, Eflin, Vinny and delos Santos.

        1. He’s got excellent movement on all of his pitches, though he needs to better command them. He’s also uber athletic. I’m not saying he’s untouchable … but … I’d be very disappointed to see him go.

          1. He reminds me of Carlos Carrasco who kept teasing as a prospect but took several up and down years to finally establish himself as a major league starter. Just hope in his case it’s with the Phillies and not another team.

            Also why I’m not ready to jump ship on Pivetta..

            1. Carlos was already traded age wise I believe and had a longer track of success than Adonis does. With Carlos we were looking at an alien since no Phillies fan had ever seen a 6 figure LA signing have immediate success on the mound and be well thought of throughout the scouting ranks.

            2. He reminds me of Carrasco, he’s not a clone of Carrasco. Both started their Phillies career at the age of 17 although Carlos move about 1 level quicker through the system but not sure his results were particularly better.

              Note that Carrasco was traded in his age 22 season, which is where Medina is this season.

  10. One guy who doesn’t get much discussion in trade talk is Deivy Grullon. His 360 OBP and 862 OPS at AAA and age 23 ought to catch the eye of some rebuilding team. His 383 BABIP suggests those offensive numbers will normalize, but he’s still showing he can hit.

    One question is whether his defensive development has stalled. Just 19 percent base stealers thrown out, for example.

    With Realmuto still young and guys like O’Hoppe and Marchan and maybe Aparaicio coming up, no reason for the Phillies to hang on to Grullon.

    1. Frank:
      Matt Kletak will need to make a decision on Grullon in a few months…this is his 7th season…2013 thru 2019.

      1. Put him on the 40
      2. Trade him within 9 days.
      4. Resign him to a minor league contract as they did with Tommy Joseph a few years ago.
      3. Or nothing…he walks under Rule 55 as a FA….2019 is his 7th season as a Phillies in their minor leagues .

      Rule 55
      MINOR LEAGUE FREE AGENCY
      (a) ELIGIBILITY FOR FREE AGENCY. At 5 p.m. Eastern Time on
      October 15 or on the fifth day following the last day of the World Series,
      whichever is later, of the last year of a player’s Minor League Uniform
      Player Contract, the player’s Minor League Uniform Player Contract shall
      expire and the player shall become a “Minor League free agent” unless the
      player’s Major or Minor League Club has remaining options to renew the
      contract……….eligibility to be a minor league free-agent where spending seven separate seasons on a minor league roster is required

    2. If you’re willing to trade Grullon for cash, or have him as a throw in for a deal, you could probably do that. There’s a reason why Deivy Grullon is currently #30 on mlbpipeline…

      1. Grullon is #12 on BA’s list so they like him.

        Along the same theme, we have several middle infielders who a year or two ago were considered prospects, but who have been bypassed in the discussion of other prospects, including other middle infielders like Stott and Luis Garcia.

        I’m thinking of Canelo, who is showing some pop this year, at least compared to his past; Daniel Brito, who also has picked up at the place, and Gamboa who’s batting average is weak, but who walks, runs the bases and scores runs.

        Anyone have thoughts on any or all of them?

        1. And don’t forget Jose Gomez….MLB.com had him as a top 20 Phillies prospect last year…he dropped off this year.
          I still do not understand why Jon Guzman does not appear on any of the national lists…..but Gamboa and Brito have been there at various rankings..

        2. Canelo and Grullon, I’d be fine with. The Phils can develop Catchers, anything else is shaky. The C position is certainly a position of strength to trade from, and Canelo is buried at this point. I remember reading some scouts put Canelo above Crawford. They are nice filler.

          Morales, Williams, Grullon, Canelo, and of course Cehe for a missing piece

          I can stomach that m, which means will get something like Niascio back

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