3. OF – Jon Singleton (CLW-8/18/91)- (.284) –2 for 4 with a HR (9), 2 RBI (47), K
6. C – Sebastian Valle (CLW-7/24/90) – (.324) – 1 for 4 with a run
7. LHP – Jesse Biddle (LWD-10/22/91) – (5-6, 3.18) – 6 IP, 8 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 4 K’s
8. RHP – Vance Worley (PHI-9/25/87) – (7-1, 2.02) – 9 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, BB, 5 K’s (win)
11. RHP – Julio Rodriquez (CLW-8/29/90)- (13-6, 3.03) – 5 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 0 ER, BB, 7 K’s (win)
12. 2B – Cesar Hernandez (CLW-5/23/90) – (.263) – 1 for 4 with a HR (4), RBI (29)
13. OF – Domingo Santana (LWD-8/5/92) – (.267) 1 for 4 with a 2B (23), RBI (30), K
17. C – Cameron Rupp (LWD-9/28/88) – (.268) – 0 for 2 with 2 BB, K
18. OF – Jiwan James (CLW-4/11/89) – (.286) – 1 for 4 with a run, K
21. RHP – Colby Shreve (LWD-1/15/88) – (4-5, 3.05, 1 SV) – 3 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K’s (win)
23. RHP – Michael Schwimer (LHV-2/19/86) – (7-1, 1.84, 6 SV) – 2 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, K (win)
24. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (REA/12/24/85)– (.288) – 0 for 4 with a K
27. OF – Miguel Alvarez (LWD-8/27/89) –(.260) – 0 for 4
Others:
1B – Cody Overbeck (LHV-6/5/86) – (.230) 1 for 4
2B – Carlos Valenzuela (GCL-9/18/90) – (.346) 1 for 4 with a 2B (7), RBI (10), L
3B – Carlos Rivero (REA-5/20/88) –(.279) 1 for 4 with a 2B (27)
3B – Travis Mattair (CLW-12/21/88) – (.276) 3 for 4 with 2 HR (5), 5 RBI (22), 2B (5)
3B – Willians Astudillo (VSL-10/14/91) –(.349) 1 for 3 with 2 runs, RBI (17)
SS – Freddy Galvis (REA-11/14/89) – (.268) –1 for 3 with a BB
SS – Alejandro Villalobos (GCL/8/20/91) – (.308) 0 for 3
SS – Jair Morelos (VSL-2/2/94) – (.280) – 0 for 2 with a BB
OF – John Mayberry (PHI-12/21/83)- (.257) – 2 for 3 with a HR (6), 2B (13), RBI (26), K
OF – Derrick Mitchell (REA-1/5/87)- (.278) – 0 for 4 with 3 K’s
OF – Anthony Hewitt (LWD-4/27/89) – (.240) – 1 for 4 with an RBI (41)
OF – Herlis Rodriguez (VSL-6/10/94) – (.288) – 0 for 2 with a run, RBI (17), BB
OF – Pedro Miranda (DSL_7/6/92) – (.292) 0 for 3 with a run, BB, 2 K
LHP – Joe Savery (LHV-11/4/85) – (2-0, 5.14) –1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, BB, K
RHP – Justin Friend (REA-6/21/86) – (0-1, 1.38, 7 SV) – 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, K
RHP – Jonathan Musser (GCL-12/19/91) – (1-3, 3.66) – 6 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 4 K (loss)
Went to the game last night and saw Worley just command the strike zone from pitch #1. I’ve got no time for pundits who say he doesn’t have the stuff to be a top of the rotation starter. He’s got stones – big time – and will be a really good addition to this pitching staff beyond this season.
As always – great work compiling the stats for us.
Even for those who basically believe you can’t be an effective MLB starting pitcher without a ton of strikeouts and that Worley is a fairly long-term lucky BABIP wonder — if you move his ERA 3/4 of the way toward his FIP, you come out with about 3.50, which is still a very nice ERA. Without Worley’s plurality of Ws over Ls, the Phillies are basically tied with the Braves at this point, so Worley has been a big part of this season’s success. I’d take either Worley or Kendrick over Blanton in the rotation.
Worley is being extremely lucky on called 3rd strikes and BABIP. With normal luck, he might be a #4/5 starter, but he does not have the swing and miss stuff to survive any prolonged period of poor luck, which will happen sooner or later. If he has luck as bad as it’s been good so far, he’ll have a 5.50 ERA, which will not be acceptable. For this reason, I do not see him as a reliable #4 starter, but a 5th or 6th starter guy.
I’m not a hater, and you calling me names does not diminish the arguments I make. Worley himself said he was suprised at the success he’s had, as well he should. His BABIP in the minors was .300, which is more or less the ML norm. There are some pitchers who are able to keep their BABIP down below that, but Worley does not seem to be one of them. His BABIP so far is about .233, which is ridiculously good.
Pitchers have to be good at something to survive in the bigs very long. The most common thing to be good at is throwing pitches which are swung at and missed. If you can do this, you can be actually bad at many other things and still be an extremely effective pitcher. If you cannot, you have to be extremely good at other things to be effective.
Worley has a swing and miss % of only 5.5%, which is extremely poor. Very, very few pitchers can start with a swinging strike rate that low, and they are no better than innings eaters, bottom of the rotation guys who are really good at other things. Worley isn’t exceptionally good at getting grounders, not exceptionally good at not walking guys, has no history of being good at keeping a low BABIP, no history of being a fly ball pitcher who doesn’t give up HRs, in other words, there’s nothing to indicate that over the long run he’ll be anything other than what scouts thought he’d be: a 5th pitcher at best, more likely a 6th starter (ala Kendrick). Despite his undeniable contributions and great start to his career, I still think over the long run, that’s what he’ll be.
The ball was flying out in Clearwater. Mattair with two hrs, Singleton, Hernandez, and Hanzawa each with one. JRod with an organization best 13 wins now.
Chuck Lamar said that Mattait has to prove that he’s a prospect. Perhaps he is doing just that.
Good to see Savery with a clean inning. Friend has been lights out at Reading as well. Biddle with another solid start. Santana gets an assist.
Mattair coming back to become a “prospect” would be one of the better stories in the system. Recent article mentioned how he’s become enthusiastic about baseball over his recent flirting with basketball. He is known to have a good glove at 3rd base; now if his hitting/slugging come around, we’d have him plus Hmart as serious contenders for the position in maybe 2-3 years. Nice.
I was skeptical about his coming back to baseball…now
“Moose” is becoming the animal at 3rd we’d been hoping for. At least he is promising us a good shot at it.
Don’t think it’s so tough, if a team wants to try carrying Mattair on their MLB roster for an entire season, after he has not played above A(A), let them.
Feels like Singleton is starting to cook down the home stretch. .917 OPS in the second half of the season through 31 games. He’s going to be 20 next season at AA.
Mattair hasn’t slowed down since he got the bump up. He’s becoming really fun to keep an eye on.
Galvis gets on base twice on a night when nobody else was doing anything. Keep going, Freddy.
The thing I love about Vance is he looks like he really believes in himself. A kid pitching next to the Phour Aces could reasonably be overwhelmed but he really looks like he has an edge about him that I like. KK has never looked like he thinks he belongs the way Vance does. The next test for him will be when the league adjusts to him and he gets hit around a little. I’m starting to believe he’s a keeper.
People were talking about Kendrick’s mental toughness nonstop when he was first called up. “Doesn’t get rattled” etc etc. Worley’s definitely got better stuff than Kendrick but I’d be absolutely open to moving him in the right deal. He’ll probably be a solid pitcher but no more than that.
Alright start for Biddle- not a lot of Ks but no HR and only 2 walks.
Home run Singleton! And an offensive explosion for Travis Mattair. Would be nice if he turned back into even a low-grade prospect. Good game for J-Rod but he needs to hit people less.
Galvis on base twice is always good to see.
Decent inning for Savery.
Small sample size, but Mattair’s OPS is now .853 at Clearwater. He’s still only 22 years old. Not sure if he would start next year at Reading or begin in Clearwater and move up, but either way, there is still plenty of time for him.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing – he is technically only a year behind (by my count if he went one level at a time, he should’ve started this year at Reading), so he is not totally off the prospect radar. My guess is that he struggled so much in his two years at Lakewood that baseball ceased to become fun, but then he did some soul searching and maybe got his groove back. Personally, I wish he didn’t “retire,” but maybe that’s just what he needed.
I almost posted the same thing, but I started thinking about his slightly larger sample size at Lakewood this year where his OPS is around .700. Still too early to get optimistic about Mattair I think.
Look out for Travis Mattair! It appears that the light has gone on and this kid is developing some confidence. This would be HUGE if he were to re-establish himself as the 3b for 2013.
Mayberry is making a case, a strong case that he can be that RH bat in the line-up. At least to the extent we don’t need to make a move for a low level guy like Willingham. WTG JR.
Huge props to Vance a guy I didn’t believe was a Top 10 to start the season based on what I saw of him to end last year with the big club. However that two seamer he starts at lefties that comes back to catch the inside corner is nasty. If he maintains command of that pitch he is a legit #3-#4 starter in the Bigs.
Yeah that pitch is a thing of beauty. It comes in on the hands where it is very hard to adjust. The catchers are starting to work in more curves. If he can develop even a small break on the fastball Murder. It can’t hurt he works in “PITCHING UNIVERSITY”.
I don’t want him but I don’t want to see the Braves get him either. Him landing with the Giants doesn’t scare me. Their pitching has taken a step back and their offense is putrid.
So far, so good in his comeback. He is actually hitting better and with more power at Clearwater than he did at Lakewood. Let’s hope that he can keep it up so that next year at Reading will be a logical progression for him.
He has a more prototypical build of what the SS position has evolved into (I posted the Tulo body comp on twitter, Choms mentions it below), but I don’t know why Quinn won’t be okay there, unless his actions are just poor. I think the Phillies want to see Quinn at SS or 2B, with CF the option if they deem he can’t handle 2B or SS. I think Greene will stay at SS for quite a while, and if he gets bigger (taller, more muscular), then he might have to move to 3B.
I went to the Lakewood game last night. I was with my kids, so I didn’t get to watch every pitch, but Biddle didn’t look all that sharp. He hit 90 on the board two or three times, but for the most part his fastball was 86-88. Rupp gunned the possible go ahead run out at second in the top of th 9th before they won in the bottom half of the inning.
3. OF – Jon Singleton (CLW-8/18/91)- (.284) –2 for 4 with a HR (9), 2 RBI (47), K
6. C – Sebastian Valle (CLW-7/24/90) – (.324) – 1 for 4 with a run
7. LHP – Jesse Biddle (LWD-10/22/91) – (5-6, 3.18) – 6 IP, 8 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 4 K’s
8. RHP – Vance Worley (PHI-9/25/87) – (7-1, 2.02) – 9 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, BB, 5 K’s (win)
11. RHP – Julio Rodriquez (CLW-8/29/90)- (13-6, 3.03) – 5 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 0 ER, BB, 7 K’s (win)
12. 2B – Cesar Hernandez (CLW-5/23/90) – (.263) – 1 for 4 with a HR (4), RBI (29)
13. OF – Domingo Santana (LWD-8/5/92) – (.267) 1 for 4 with a 2B (23), RBI (30), K
17. C – Cameron Rupp (LWD-9/28/88) – (.268) – 0 for 2 with 2 BB, K
18. OF – Jiwan James (CLW-4/11/89) – (.286) – 1 for 4 with a run, K
21. RHP – Colby Shreve (LWD-1/15/88) – (4-5, 3.05, 1 SV) – 3 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K’s (win)
23. RHP – Michael Schwimer (LHV-2/19/86) – (7-1, 1.84, 6 SV) – 2 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, K (win)
24. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (REA/12/24/85)– (.288) – 0 for 4 with a K
27. OF – Miguel Alvarez (LWD-8/27/89) –(.260) – 0 for 4
Others:
1B – Cody Overbeck (LHV-6/5/86) – (.230) 1 for 4
2B – Carlos Valenzuela (GCL-9/18/90) – (.346) 1 for 4 with a 2B (7), RBI (10), L
3B – Carlos Rivero (REA-5/20/88) –(.279) 1 for 4 with a 2B (27)
3B – Travis Mattair (CLW-12/21/88) – (.276) 3 for 4 with 2 HR (5), 5 RBI (22), 2B (5)
3B – Willians Astudillo (VSL-10/14/91) –(.349) 1 for 3 with 2 runs, RBI (17)
SS – Freddy Galvis (REA-11/14/89) – (.268) –1 for 3 with a BB
SS – Alejandro Villalobos (GCL/8/20/91) – (.308) 0 for 3
SS – Jair Morelos (VSL-2/2/94) – (.280) – 0 for 2 with a BB
OF – John Mayberry (PHI-12/21/83)- (.257) – 2 for 3 with a HR (6), 2B (13), RBI (26), K
OF – Derrick Mitchell (REA-1/5/87)- (.278) – 0 for 4 with 3 K’s
OF – Anthony Hewitt (LWD-4/27/89) – (.240) – 1 for 4 with an RBI (41)
OF – Herlis Rodriguez (VSL-6/10/94) – (.288) – 0 for 2 with a run, RBI (17), BB
OF – Pedro Miranda (DSL_7/6/92) – (.292) 0 for 3 with a run, BB, 2 K
LHP – Joe Savery (LHV-11/4/85) – (2-0, 5.14) –1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, BB, K
RHP – Justin Friend (REA-6/21/86) – (0-1, 1.38, 7 SV) – 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, K
RHP – Jonathan Musser (GCL-12/19/91) – (1-3, 3.66) – 6 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 4 K (loss)
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You are a machine.
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Went to the game last night and saw Worley just command the strike zone from pitch #1. I’ve got no time for pundits who say he doesn’t have the stuff to be a top of the rotation starter. He’s got stones – big time – and will be a really good addition to this pitching staff beyond this season.
As always – great work compiling the stats for us.
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He doesn’t have the stuff to be a top of the rotation starter.
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Nor do we need a top of the rotation starter. But we need a #4 and he is good enough for that. And he’s $440k for the next few years which is key.
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He doesn’t have the stuff to be a #4 starter…
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Yeah, ah you’re not even close to correct.
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Even for those who basically believe you can’t be an effective MLB starting pitcher without a ton of strikeouts and that Worley is a fairly long-term lucky BABIP wonder — if you move his ERA 3/4 of the way toward his FIP, you come out with about 3.50, which is still a very nice ERA. Without Worley’s plurality of Ws over Ls, the Phillies are basically tied with the Braves at this point, so Worley has been a big part of this season’s success. I’d take either Worley or Kendrick over Blanton in the rotation.
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Worley is being extremely lucky on called 3rd strikes and BABIP. With normal luck, he might be a #4/5 starter, but he does not have the swing and miss stuff to survive any prolonged period of poor luck, which will happen sooner or later. If he has luck as bad as it’s been good so far, he’ll have a 5.50 ERA, which will not be acceptable. For this reason, I do not see him as a reliable #4 starter, but a 5th or 6th starter guy.
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Maddox had a lot of luck on called strikes too.
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If Worley is the next Maddux, I’ll admit I was wrong about him…
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And IF you take out the MAY game with the inferior lineup, Worley’s ERA would be 1.45 which is pretty close to his mean era. WOW that is LUCK.
And he is evolve at “pitchers university”
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Even a hater has to admit most of his out are incredible easy plays.
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I’m not a hater, and you calling me names does not diminish the arguments I make. Worley himself said he was suprised at the success he’s had, as well he should. His BABIP in the minors was .300, which is more or less the ML norm. There are some pitchers who are able to keep their BABIP down below that, but Worley does not seem to be one of them. His BABIP so far is about .233, which is ridiculously good.
Pitchers have to be good at something to survive in the bigs very long. The most common thing to be good at is throwing pitches which are swung at and missed. If you can do this, you can be actually bad at many other things and still be an extremely effective pitcher. If you cannot, you have to be extremely good at other things to be effective.
Worley has a swing and miss % of only 5.5%, which is extremely poor. Very, very few pitchers can start with a swinging strike rate that low, and they are no better than innings eaters, bottom of the rotation guys who are really good at other things. Worley isn’t exceptionally good at getting grounders, not exceptionally good at not walking guys, has no history of being good at keeping a low BABIP, no history of being a fly ball pitcher who doesn’t give up HRs, in other words, there’s nothing to indicate that over the long run he’ll be anything other than what scouts thought he’d be: a 5th pitcher at best, more likely a 6th starter (ala Kendrick). Despite his undeniable contributions and great start to his career, I still think over the long run, that’s what he’ll be.
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The next Worley is fine with me.
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The only thing he’s exceptionally good at is winning. So all of the peripheral stats don’t add up to #@#$^ when he’s 7-1.
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The ball was flying out in Clearwater. Mattair with two hrs, Singleton, Hernandez, and Hanzawa each with one. JRod with an organization best 13 wins now.
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How many times do you see the bottom 3 in the order hit 4 HRs? Not very often.
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Good for Mattair, still hitting the ball pretty solidly.
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Maybe Mattair can be this year’s Derrick Mitchell – toolsy guy at CLW who starts to put things together in the second half. Wouldn’t that be a hoot!
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Moose Mattair on a run. Better not look back, however, Martinez and Franco may be on his heals.
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Chuck Lamar said that Mattait has to prove that he’s a prospect. Perhaps he is doing just that.
Good to see Savery with a clean inning. Friend has been lights out at Reading as well. Biddle with another solid start. Santana gets an assist.
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Did Biddle play yesterday?
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Oops, looking at the wrong days boxscore. I was thinking it was his turn but didn’t see in in the boxscore I was looking at.
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Solid start by Biddle? Don’t you mean quality start?
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Mattair coming back to become a “prospect” would be one of the better stories in the system. Recent article mentioned how he’s become enthusiastic about baseball over his recent flirting with basketball. He is known to have a good glove at 3rd base; now if his hitting/slugging come around, we’d have him plus Hmart as serious contenders for the position in maybe 2-3 years. Nice.
I was skeptical about his coming back to baseball…now
“Moose” is becoming the animal at 3rd we’d been hoping for. At least he is promising us a good shot at it.
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He’s Rule 5 eligible this winter, isn’t he. Tough choice if he keeps hitting like this.
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Don’t think it’s so tough, if a team wants to try carrying Mattair on their MLB roster for an entire season, after he has not played above A(A), let them.
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A few thoughts…
Feels like Singleton is starting to cook down the home stretch. .917 OPS in the second half of the season through 31 games. He’s going to be 20 next season at AA.
Mattair hasn’t slowed down since he got the bump up. He’s becoming really fun to keep an eye on.
Galvis gets on base twice on a night when nobody else was doing anything. Keep going, Freddy.
Bless, Vance.
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Is it time for folks to stop calling Worley the Second Coming of KK?
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Second coming of J. A. Happ?
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The even better thing is that Worley is 3 years younger than Happ when he got called up.
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Happ was injured three times one year probably thanks at least in part to John Russel.
Has Worley ever been on the DL?
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who/what did john russel do to happ?
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Russel overpitched him before he was completely ready.
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Another of Nowheel’s famous conspiracy theories.
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BJ—I saw JA Happ get bombed by the Mets in 2007—he was 24 I think. How’s your math?
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I think he was referring to his age when finally traded, but you’re thinly veiled sarcasm was duly noted. Was their a point to it?
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The thing I love about Vance is he looks like he really believes in himself. A kid pitching next to the Phour Aces could reasonably be overwhelmed but he really looks like he has an edge about him that I like. KK has never looked like he thinks he belongs the way Vance does. The next test for him will be when the league adjusts to him and he gets hit around a little. I’m starting to believe he’s a keeper.
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People were talking about Kendrick’s mental toughness nonstop when he was first called up. “Doesn’t get rattled” etc etc. Worley’s definitely got better stuff than Kendrick but I’d be absolutely open to moving him in the right deal. He’ll probably be a solid pitcher but no more than that.
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Alright start for Biddle- not a lot of Ks but no HR and only 2 walks.
Home run Singleton! And an offensive explosion for Travis Mattair. Would be nice if he turned back into even a low-grade prospect. Good game for J-Rod but he needs to hit people less.
Galvis on base twice is always good to see.
Decent inning for Savery.
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Small sample size, but Mattair’s OPS is now .853 at Clearwater. He’s still only 22 years old. Not sure if he would start next year at Reading or begin in Clearwater and move up, but either way, there is still plenty of time for him.
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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing – he is technically only a year behind (by my count if he went one level at a time, he should’ve started this year at Reading), so he is not totally off the prospect radar. My guess is that he struggled so much in his two years at Lakewood that baseball ceased to become fun, but then he did some soul searching and maybe got his groove back. Personally, I wish he didn’t “retire,” but maybe that’s just what he needed.
– Jeff
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I almost posted the same thing, but I started thinking about his slightly larger sample size at Lakewood this year where his OPS is around .700. Still too early to get optimistic about Mattair I think.
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Look out for Travis Mattair! It appears that the light has gone on and this kid is developing some confidence. This would be HUGE if he were to re-establish himself as the 3b for 2013.
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Mayberry is making a case, a strong case that he can be that RH bat in the line-up. At least to the extent we don’t need to make a move for a low level guy like Willingham. WTG JR.
Huge props to Vance a guy I didn’t believe was a Top 10 to start the season based on what I saw of him to end last year with the big club. However that two seamer he starts at lefties that comes back to catch the inside corner is nasty. If he maintains command of that pitch he is a legit #3-#4 starter in the Bigs.
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Yeah that pitch is a thing of beauty. It comes in on the hands where it is very hard to adjust. The catchers are starting to work in more curves. If he can develop even a small break on the fastball Murder. It can’t hurt he works in “PITCHING UNIVERSITY”.
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btw, beltran is going to the giants.
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I don’t want him but I don’t want to see the Braves get him either. Him landing with the Giants doesn’t scare me. Their pitching has taken a step back and their offense is putrid.
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I think Mattair has to go to Reading next year. The jump from A+ to AA is huge, its sink or swim time for him in 2012.
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So far, so good in his comeback. He is actually hitting better and with more power at Clearwater than he did at Lakewood. Let’s hope that he can keep it up so that next year at Reading will be a logical progression for him.
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Hitting 5th today in Clearwater’s afternoon game (also of note, Colvin is back on the mound).
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Tyler Greene playing short, batting second today for the GCL Phils.
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Nice!
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K in his first AB. Can we have his signing bonus back?
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CUT HIM!!!
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What happens when you pick some guy just because he’s willing to sign cheap!!!
(and yes, it’s called sarcasm)
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Then you’re the San Diego Padres.
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Two run double in his 3rd AB (after a ground out in 2nd ab). Move him up to CLW.
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Do any of the scouts think he is a better SS prospect than Quinn? Quinns physique reminds me of a Dee Gordon.
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Quinn’s arm is the problem, he might not be able to make the throws from SS, if not he is a 2B or CF
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He has a more prototypical build of what the SS position has evolved into (I posted the Tulo body comp on twitter, Choms mentions it below), but I don’t know why Quinn won’t be okay there, unless his actions are just poor. I think the Phillies want to see Quinn at SS or 2B, with CF the option if they deem he can’t handle 2B or SS. I think Greene will stay at SS for quite a while, and if he gets bigger (taller, more muscular), then he might have to move to 3B.
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I love dreaming of a Galvis/Green left infield in a few years…
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I don’t usually dream about no-hit above average D SS….
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Rick, in my dream, Galvis is a line drive hittin’, on base machine…
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Ah – well then I dream of that as well!
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Poor Villalobos. Hit .308 then get benched. It will be interesting to see how they mix him in with Greene and Quinn (if/when Quinn signs).
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Nice first game for Mini Tulo.
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I went to the Lakewood game last night. I was with my kids, so I didn’t get to watch every pitch, but Biddle didn’t look all that sharp. He hit 90 on the board two or three times, but for the most part his fastball was 86-88. Rupp gunned the possible go ahead run out at second in the top of th 9th before they won in the bottom half of the inning.
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Ken Rosenthal referred to RAJ as “This Fearless GM is one to watch at the deadline” He may be but I am fearing who he might deal and for whom…..
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Saw a report the other day that Aumont has recovered. Very good news. It was on http://www.csnphilly.com.
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