43 thoughts on “Box Score Recap, 19 July 2011

  1. I’m aware they aren’t all prospects, but the Spidale-Rizz-Susdorf-Mitchell combo in Reading is really fun to watch and follow.

    Tough game for May. I know its too early to worry about DeFratus, but hes taking longer than I hoped to get accustomed to AAA. Seems like hes giving up runs ever time out there.

    Crazy line for that WPT shortstop…0-0 with 4 walks!

    1. Thinking the same thing Dan. I’m really starting to like that Reading lineup. Galvis is getting critical experience in the leadoff hole and I like the addition of Evans, even if he’s only serving as filler.

  2. Reading has been hitting the ball real well lately. Everybody has been chipping in. Tonight Evans had a good game and Tuffy with a HR. Does Tuffy have a future as a Major League back-up or just a career minor leaguer. Good game for JC Ramirez. Lehigh Valley with a bad game. DeFratus still struggling. The Threshers want to forget about this week. Like this kid Nesseth. I would like to see them move him to Lakewood. I figure Manzanillo and/or Biddle will be shut down at some point because of their age and lack of career innings.

  3. Now J.C. has to show some consistency. Wheels said something about Mike Pelfrey the other day that struck me as perhaps applicable to Ramirez. He said that it was a mystery that Pelfrey did not have more success. He seemed to have all the ingredients. With Pelfrey, I think it’s mental. You saw him throwing behing Utley and all of a sudden the Phillies were energized. Ramirez is a big, hard-throwing guy and its a mystery why he can do what he did tonight and then have starts like the one before tonight’s. These kind of starts happen to everybody, but not every other game.

    1. First appearance since 2009, when he pitched all of two innings. He is still only 20 years old. Two innings, one hit, no runs. Encouraging.

      1. First thing I noticed from the box scores was a Steven Inch siting. Here’s hoping he’s finally healthy.

        1. Yeah between the majors and minors it seems like we’ve had a lot of players return from injury only to wind up back on the DL very shortly. Another arm that could be a legit prospect is always welcome so I hope he keeps showing up in box scores.

  4. Four walks for Miramontes…that’s unusual. Like the two hits and walk for Franco. Good that Harold Martinez doubled and didn’t K today. Nesseth seems to have had another nice start.
    Did Trevor May get hit hard or was he especially unlucky tonight? Ten hits is a ton but he still managed to strike guys out. Ramirez pitched well tonight.

    Not a good night for the Phils’ system.

      1. It was said on last nights score report that he was blooped to death, I guess there were 2 broken bat singles and a bunt in there too. That St. Lucie team has been missing fielders like crazy.

        1. Maybe I’m just remembering specific cases but it seems like May gives up a lot of bunt singles, which seems strange for a guy who throws a high, hard, slightly wild fastball. Is he/Barnes a poor fielder, or do I just have a bad memory?

  5. Mike Nesseth was absolutely fantastic tonight. Surprisingly, this is the first time I’ve seen him throw since his second start of the season. All his other starts have been on the road. Tonight was his second consecutive scoreless start. Only lasted five innings because of a one-hour weather delay just after he finished his warm-up tosses for the top of the sixth inning. He had only thrown 52 pitches through five innings, so he had 7 innings within his grasp which would have been a season high. His slider has been good all year, showing no signs of hesitancy in throwing it after the Tommy John surgery last April. His outings have started to get better as he really starting to spot his fastball well. I’d guess he’s low 90s with his fastball (can’t remember where he said he’s been when I talked to him last week). I think he understands he’s not a strikeout pitcher and is buying in to pitching to contact. Threw seven pitches in the second inning, eight in the third and seven more in the fourth tonight. I think he can get some strikeouts with his slider because it’s got a nice, hard bite to it, but he’s far more efficient pitching to contact.

    Williamsport had a 3-0 lead in the ninth but Gabriel Arias loaded the bases on a single and two walks before Juary Gomez relieved him. Gomez walked in a run with the first batter he faced on a 3-2 pitch, then gave up a sacrifice fly. With runners on first and third, Gomez got a three hopper to Harold Martinez, who threw home. Francisco Diaz took a hit and hung on to the ball to keep the tying run from scoring. Gomez struck out the next batter to end the game. Clean play on the collision at the plate. Diaz rolled with the hit and wasn’t hurt.

    Martinez’s double landed on the track in the right-field corner, a really good poke that’s out of almost every park he plays in Bowman Field. I think that’s the one thing he has yet to show is a consistent ability to drive the baseball, but I think he’s absolutely a legitimate prospect.

    Diaz threw out two more basestealers, and the first one he didn’t get much help on. Nesseth is slow to the plate from the stretch. Big leg kick with his 6-5 frame, but Diaz still manages to throw guys out by 3 or 4 feet. Diaz’s only problem I see is that his throws tend to sail to the second base side of the bag. But he’s still getting the ball to second so quickly that the shortstop or second baseman is having to wait to apply the tag.

    Hudson didn’t play tonight after a rough night last night. Miramontes walked four times and really wasn’t pitched to much in the leadoff spot. Taylor Black took batting practice today and looked OK. Don’t know how far away he is from getting back in the lineup. Have to think it’s only a few days if he’s taking full swings.

    Here’s the feature I did on Miramontes that is in Wednesday’s paper: http://sungazette.com/page/content.detail/id/566454/Miramontes-trying-to-make-most-of-chance.html?nav=5017

  6. I think that De Fratus’s ERA is inflated due to bad luck on balls in play. He’s K Rate per 9 innings is 11, his BB Rate is 3, and his HR rate is .5. Those numbers are excellent, decent, and excellent. I haven’t taken the time to plug them into the FIP formula, but I’m guessing his context-neutral ERA is quite good. I’m not worried about him; in fact, I’m impressed with his peripherals.

    1. ive said before and i,ll say it again , defratis has bad mechanics. he shows the ball too long. bring up schwimmer.

  7. This might be a bit out-of-place, but according to MLB rules, the Phillies are only allowed to call up players on their 40-man roster in September, right? If that is the case, would you guys expect the Phillies to put Schwimmer on the 40-man roster since he currently isn’t? (Or is that even feasible?) With all the bullpen talk, I don’t see how the Phillies won’t at least give Schwimmer a chance in September – he has very little left to prove in minors.

    1. I don’t think Schwim will be promoted until rosters are expanded. He needs to improve his splits, but I certainly think he’s part of the Phils plans – just not in 2011

    2. Any player can be placed on the 40 man roster, as long as there are 40 players only, if a player would make more than 40 by their inclusion, another must be removed. The space on the 40 is no problem, as they could move a player clearly out for season to 25 man roster and place them on 60 day DL thus creating an extra spot. Harold Garcia, Drew Naylor examples , also MLB players, and maybe adding other injured minor leaguers. They may add Schwimer because he will be eligible for Rule 5 draft after season, and if they want to keep him , it wouldn’t be premature to add after September 1. I think they call him up- a couple of RH relievers, couple of LH releivers, a C for sure, couple extra IF, couple extra OF, it depends on what they want to add.

    3. Don’t think the Phillies will be adding anyone to the 40-man roster until they get through the trade deadline. Depending on possible moves, they might need a spot or two. Adding a guy like Schwimmer now who doesn’t have to be added just increases the chance you lose a guy when a spot is needed as a result of a trade.

  8. Looks like the Pirates inked Grilli to a major league deal. Apparently he had an out clause that required the Phils to put him on the big league roster within 72 hours of an opposing team’s big league offer. Another loss for the LV bullpen.

    1. Matt Gelb on philly.com says that the Phillies have until Friday to make bring him aboard.

      1. Seen the Gelb thing last night, this morning on MLBTR they have an apparent Grilli tweet or something saying something like “Black and Gold, Black and Gold, Black and Gold, can’t wait to join the new squadron” or something, So, it could be Philly has already decided not to promote Grilli.

      2. Is it possible for the Phillies to bring up Grilli to the major league level.. then trade him right away to the pirates? That way they don’t lose him for absolutely nothing.

        1. I think not. Grilli’s contract calls for him to be released , look around and be a free agent of sorts, so ypu can’t go placing restrictions on that. International League transactions now list him as released. MLBTR now changed the headline on Grilli news to say he is now a Pirate.

    2. SImilar to Brian Gordon’s contract—many career minor leaguers have something like this.

  9. Thinking the same thing Dan. I’m really starting to like that Reading lineup. Galvis is getting critical experience in the leadoff hole and I like the addition of Evans, even if he’s only serving as filler.

  10. Man the “baby aces” really haven’t had a great showing this last week while they are probably being scouted every night. I wonder if that has affected them having scouts there from other teams.

  11. WPT- looks like back end of bullpen- Hector Neris, Gabriel Arias, Juary Gomez is solidifying around these pitchers.
    Neris- combined between Lakewood and Williamsport- 36 IP- 47 K.
    GCL- Michael Marshall activated. Have to check these rosters.
    VSL- Herlis Rodriguez, Jair Morelos, still up there in batting, Wilson Garcia lulling a bit, Gustavo Martinez has come on a bit, for the around 17 y.o. group.
    3 players picked off for VSL squad.
    Ely Izzturiaga, LHP, has been somewhat effective of late, has gotten some pickoffs. Maybe he can return to States and try to start off again in full season ball.
    DSL- Jairo Cardoza, SS, started off hitting well for season, then went into a lull for awhile, now looks like starting to revive a bit.

  12. 1. OF – Domonic Brown (PHI-9/13/87) – (.245) 2 for 2 with a 2B (9) and a BB
    3. OF – Jon Singleton (CLW-8/18/91)- (.278) –0 for 4 with a K
    5. RHP – Trevor May (Clearwater)- (6-6, 3.65) – 5 IP, 10 H, 6 R, 5 ER, BB and 7 K’s (loss)
    6. C – Sebastian Valle (Clearwater) – (.314) – 0 for 4 with a K
    10. RHP – Justin De Fratus (Lehigh Valley) – (2-0, 5.50) – 1 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1 BB and 2 K’s
    12. 2B – Cesar Hernandez (CLW-5/23/90) – (.259) – 1 for 3
    14. RHP – JC Ramirez (Reading) – (8-9, 3.93) – 7 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 0 ER, BB and 3 K’s (win)
    15. OF – Aaron Altherr (Williamsport) – (.295) – 2 for 4 with a run and 2 K’s
    18. OF – Jiwan James (Clearwater) – (.273) – 1 for 4 with a K
    24. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (REA/12/24/85)– (.297) – 2 for 4 with a 2B (23), run and BB
    28. OF – Kelly Dugan (WIL-9/18/90)–(.282) – 1 for 34 with a run and a BB


    1B – Cody Overbeck (LHV-6/5/86) – (.212) 0 for 4
    2B– Cody Asche (WIL-6/20/90) – (.208) 0 for 4 with a K
    2B – Carlos Valenzuela (GCL-9/18/90) – (.329) 1 for 4 with a run, RBI (8) and a K
    3B – Maikel Franco (WIL-8/26/92) – (.252) –2 for 3 with 2 RBI (19) and a BB
    3B – Harold Martinez (WIL-5/31/90) – (.289) – 1 for 4 with a 2B (8), RBI (10)
    SS – Freddy Galvis (REA-11/14/89)– (.263) –1 for 5
    SS – Jair Morelos (VSL-2/2/94) – (.289) – 1 for 3
    OF – John Mayberry (PHI- – (.241) – 0 for 1
    OF – Derrick Mitchell (REA-1/5/87)- (.281) – 1 for 5 with a run
    OF – Steve Susdorf (REA/3/28/86) – (.332) – 0 for 3 with a run, RBI (32), SB (7) and 2 BB
    OF – Brian Pointer (GCL-1/28/92) (GCL) – (.278) – 1 for 3 with 2 K’s
    OF – Herlis Rodriguez (VSL-6/10/94) – (.294) – 2 for 3 with a CS (7)
    RHP – Eric Pettis (CLW-6/9/88) – (1-2, 3.03, 3 SV) –2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB and 2 K’s
    RHP – Juary Gomez (WIL-5/23/90) – (3-0, 2.01, 5 SV) 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, BB and a K (save)
    RHP – Steven Inch (GCL-2/1/91) – (0-0, 0.00) – 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB and a K

  13. One thing about this year that I will say… the top 5 in the system are underperforming and but the rest of the system has some things to be excited about (aka it’s a more mixed bag of results). This is semi-typical as the highest performers from the previous year are much more likly to not reproduce exception results then medicore players are to improve on their past results.

    Even though I know that, it’s been a sort of disappointing year so far on the minor league roster IMO. How’s everyone else feel (specifically about the top 5, then about the whole group in general?)

    1. Yeah, the whole year has been mildly disappointing. There is no player you look at and think – wow, this guy is going to be a big league star. Not horrible, but with most players the jury is still out.

    2. Since the top five play for one team, I would say I have been pleased with their performance. The pitchers have all been getting their innings in, exce4pt for Colvin’s start. He is the one pitcher who has underperformed. Singleton and Valle have ridden out slumps and have asserted themselves.
      Ignoring the top 30, which is an old list at this point, Buchanan is coming back from a little dip. He had a very good game today. Rupp is hitting well. Biddle has been more excellent than mediocher. All of them have a chance to be major leaguers.
      The new players are getting their feet wet, but Villalobos, Valenzuela, Pointer, Oviedo, and Birmingham have been very good. Martinez looks like he can play. Earlier in this section, people were raving about the players at Reading who are having outstanding seasons.
      Can we predict who will make it and who won’t? How many thought Michael Stutes would be a rock in the Phils bullpen this year? You never can tell. That is why Derrick Mitchell can’t be counted out.
      I like the bottom half of our system and our top half is starting to benefit from the draft and good pick-ups from free agency.
      I’m optimistic.

  14. I think that Reading team is going to make a run, I also like there line-up in Razz Mitchell Galvis Susdorf, I think Mitchell is going to be a great defense of player that will hit with power in a few more years.

      1. Hoping the next seven draftees are soon signed. If they can do that IMO this will turn out to be one of our best drafts for position players in many a year. Especially for middle and 3rd base picks. Very pleased about Harold Martinez’ abilities and his chances to be our guy at 3rd for many years…but hope he needs only two more minor lg seasons before coming up.

  15. Not that anyone will read this, but Rupp has been a different person entirely in the month of July. Anyone know what he’s doing differently?

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