131 thoughts on “Box Score Recap, 21 June 2011

  1. 1. OF – Domonic Brown (Phillies) – (.213) 0 for 3
    3. OF – Jon Singleton (Clearwater)- (.254) –3 for 4 with a HR (4), 2B (8), 6 RBI (27) and a BB
    4. RHP – Jared Cosart (Clearwater) – (6-4, 3.16) – 5 IP, 8 H, 6 R, 5 ER, BB and 3 K’s (loss)
    6. C – Sebastian Valle (Clearwater) – (.343) – 0 for 5 with 3 K’s
    10. RHP – Justin De Fratus (Lehigh Valley) – (0-0, 8.10) – 1.1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB and a K
    12. 2B – Cesar Hernandez (Clearwater) – (.252) – 2 for 5 with a 2B (4), CS (4) and a K
    15. OF – Aaron Altherr (Williamsport) – (.438) – 1 for 4 with a 2B (2), RBI (1) and 2 K’s
    18. OF – Jiwan James (Clearwater) – (.268) – 3 for 4 with 3 runs, SB (13) and a BB
    24. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (Reading) – (.296) – 1 for 4 with 2 K’s
    28. OF – Kelly Dugan (Williamsport) –(.278) – 3 for 5 with a K


    1B – Cody Overbeck (Lehigh Valley) – (.12) 0 for 1 with a K
    3B – Carlos Rivero (Reading) – (.251) – 1 for 4 with 2 K’s
    3B – Maikel Franco (Williamsport) – (.375) – 1 for 4
    3B – Harold Martinez (Williamsport) – (.000) – 0 for 1 with a K
    2B/DH – Cody Asche (Williamsport) – (.067) 0 for 4
    SS – Freddy Galvis (Redding) – (.274) –2 for 4 with a 2B (12) and a run
    SS – Jair Morelos (VSL) – (.343) – 2 for 4 with 2 RBI (15)
    OF – John Mayberry (Lehigh Valley) – (.233) – 1 for 4 with a 2B (4), SB (1) and a K
    OF – Derrick Mitchell (Redding)- (.277) – 0 for 3 with a K
    OF – Steve Susdorf (Redding) – (314) – 1 for 3 with a K
    OF – Joe Savery (Redding) –(.250) – 1 for 2 with a 2B (1) and a BB
    OF – Anthony Hewitt (Lakewood) – (.248) – 1 for 2 (all-star game)
    OF – Kyrell Hudson (Williamsport) – (.333) – 2 for 5 with a HR (1), 2 runs and RBI (2)
    OF – Herlis Rodriguez (VSL) – (.348) – 1 for 4 with a BB
    LHP – Austin Wright (Williamsport) – (0-0, 0.00) – 4 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB and 7 K’s
    RHP – B.J. Rosenberg (Reading) – (2-2, 3.38) – 7 IP, 8 H, 4 R, 4 ER, BB and 7 K’s (loss)
    RHP – David Buchanan (Lakewood) – (8-4, 3.21) – 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB and 2 K’s
    RHP – Garett Claypool (Lakewood) – (2-3, 3.15) – 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB and 2 K’s
    RHP – Lisalberto Bonilla (Lakewood) – (0-1, 0.89, 4 SV) – 1.1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER and a BB (all-star game)

    1. On a night when Singleton hits a bomb and goes for 6 RBI, Galvis continues to rake and my boy Kyrell Hudson also goes yard… well… there’s no waiting for the morning.

      1. I have to admit I was down on the Hudson pick because of the questions about his attitude (not to mention didn’t think we needed another toolsy OF!). Hearing the reports of how much extra work he has put in has changed my opinion of him. Add me to the fan club!

        1. I was a supporter of Hudson from the beginning because it sounded like he had gone through a lot as a young man. I’m glad to see him have some success early. Hopefully he can keep it up!

        1. Yeah, he gave up four runs, not sure what I was looking at. Did I write down the line from the opposing starting pitcher?

          1. So after two months of carrying the team, Ketch pops up with the bases loaded. In true Phlly tradition, I must say “BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO”

            (Yes, I’m kidding. Ketch has been having an MVP year. Nice work)

            – Jeff

  2. I might be more excited about Galvis’s breakout season than any other prospect in the system

  3. Interesting article on csnphilly with Looper talking up Lendy Castillo.

    Said he’s been clocked at 96 with a good breaking ball. He’s Rule 5 eligible after this season

  4. Hudson’s shot was really a bomb…the left fielder just turned around and watched it go. I think he’s definitely gained some strength in the offseason and looks pretty good so far.

    1. Well last year he just looked lost and kind of just tryed slapping the ball the other way. Now hes hitting all over the field with authority. Its only 4 games but hes going to have a huge season for williamsport.

    2. Hudson was crushing the ball in spring training and would have been on the Lakewood squad if they didn’t have so many outfielders. I saw him hit two bombs there so I’m not surprised by the power. He looked much better than Altherr or Dugan when I saw them all play.

  5. Galvis another two hits to Rollins contract. Given his defensive rep and even half the improvement in the off season that he had last winter, it seems to be a go.

    1. Still not sure Galvis can swing the bat sufficiently to survive everyday. I would think that he should start to hit at Reading, since this is a repeat year for him there. I will be more convinced if he gets moved to LV, where he’ll see better pitching and more off speed stuff. This year is a step in the right direction for him. But I need to see him do it next at a higher level, hopefully soon.

      1. He’s still one of the 6-8 youngest players in the Eastern league. Repeating a level really isn’t a big deal, considering his age, the level it is (I think it’s less telling if a player repeats AA or AAA) and the unorthodox way in which Galvis has been promoted.

        Now, just because he can hit in AA doesn’t mean that he can hit in the majors and even this level of hitting doesn’t imply that he’ll be able to replace Rollins next year. But I don’t think we should dismiss his performance just by saying “He’s repeating a level.”

    2. I’m happy for Galvis but I don’t think I’m getting crazy enough to say let Jimmy walk!

    3. I still think that it depends mostly upon what Rollins is asking. I’m now one of the biggest Galvis boosters but he won’t be ready next year. They could try to sign a transition guy for a year or two, but IMO if Rollins will accept 3/30 or less they should & will still sign him. Obviously from the Phillies’ perspective 2 years would be even better but I don’t see it happening.

      1. It’ll be a tough call regarding Rollins this year – Galvis has made huge strides, but is probably a year away – and still has (IMO) a pretty low offensive ceiling. Plus Rollins brings a lot of intangibles to the table.

        – Jeff

  6. No reason the Phils can’t make a offer to Rollins and get a draft pick. Its a little chancy but time will tell.

    Let’s face it for most the first short season is basically learning to live on your own and learning what is demanded of you.

    1. Not that I really have a disagreement here, but keep in mind the new CBA will be in place next year and they are going to make changes to the draft. Compensation picks may be a thing of the past.

      1. You think that they are going to get ride of compensation picks? Not bloody likely. Without a salary the poor teams are always going to need propped up.

        1. It defeats the purpose though when a team like the Red Sox gets extra picks simply because they swapped free agents. The latest issue of Baseball America states teams and players would like to reduce compensation to elite type players and get rid of class B and C free agent compensation.

    2. I think Rollins has to come back just because of what he means to the team and the franchise, but tit has to be a fair price. From a lineup standpointt, if Galvis can hold his own and the Phils use the money elsewhere, their lineup could actually be better. Victorino, Polanco, Utley, Howard, RH OF (i.e., Quentin/Cuddyer/etc), D Brown, Ruiz, Galvis, Pitcher.

      1. All;

        This franchise should not quit while being ahead. You owe it to the rotation to get the best players possible. Galvis is not a proven commodity and Rollins is a team leader. Let the Phillies sign Rollins for 2 or 3 years, hopefully at a decent value given his lack of offensive production. Call up Galvis in 2013 and let Rollins provide a year of mentoring. A winning and aging club like this needs to ease the young guys in and show them how to win. This allows for continual success. instead of rebuilding years and wasting of an all-time rotation.

        1. Okay, then who do you sacrifice? Oswalt? Madson? The Phillies are up against the luxury tax and understandably don’t want to go over it; they are also running afoul of MLB’s debt service rules. You make it sound like there are no tough choices but that’s not the case.

          1. I’m mostly with you on this Catch, and they shouldn’t overpay on Rollins, but Oswalt is IMO almost certainly gone. Aside from the fact that his option price is way too hig, I think it’s going to be easier to fill his rotation slot than find a decent SS. I’m fine with Blanton/Worley as their 4th and 5th starters.

            In a perfect world they would decline the option but sign Oswalt to a more modest 10 million, and find a taker for Blanton to afford that salary. But I think we’re dreaming if we think that that will come to pass.

            1. There must be a balance between hitting and pitching in terms of dollars and talent. It would be great to bring back Oswalt, but you need to look towards the future with Hamels contract extension. I like Rollins, not so much at $10M / year given is lack of offensive production and recent injury history. You are correct in taking a calculated risk in letting Madson go. But once again, you throw out this great rotation everyday only to blow it in the 9th? I would like to see Stutes / Bastardo / Madson for the next 3 years. However, Madson is a one year wonder as closer.

  7. Singleton’s last 10 games are weird to say the least. He’s batting .200 (7 / 35) and that includes yesterday’s 3 for 4. Okay.. that’s not particularly weird but his OBP is .349. He’s had 8 BBs. He might not be considered hot but he’s contributing. I’m hoping his big day yesterday is a catalyst to get hot… really hot.

    In the GCL game yesterday, the opposing team’s starter E. Briceno had a tough day. He had 4 WPs, hit 3 guys, had a BB and the catcher was charged with a PB. They probably felt sorry for the pitcher and instead of a 5th WP hung one on the catcher. It looks like one of the guys he hit, our SS Gustavo Hernandez, left the game an inning or two later. i hope he wasn’t hurt because of a pitcher’s wildness.

    1. I have to think Jonathan has been hampered by injury. Also, let’s not everyone get too excited by one game. Could have been simply lousy pitching that he beat up on, something that won’t happen often. But here’s hoping it signals a turnaround. He hit poorly second half of last year and most of this season. Not a good thing, despite his plate discipline, great swing, and physical talent.

    2. I don’t think that line is all that strange. The kid has always had great plate discipline. He’s been punished by playing hurt in a league that favors pitching. If he’s promoted to Reading and struggles with power production there, that would be a concern. In Clearwater? Not so much.

    3. That’s Gustavo Gonzalez, believed by some to be the former hyped offseason 16 y.o. signee Anderson Gonzalez, and now the more recently signed 19 y.o. SS Gustavo Gonzalez.

  8. my new top 10
    1) cosart
    2) singleton
    3) galvis
    4) valle
    5 may
    6) biddle
    7) cesar hernandez
    8) colvin
    9) defrautus
    10) jrod

    i removed brown and worley because they are major leaguers.
    If Galvis keeps up the hitting, one could argue he should be even higher.. great glove, decent average, emerging power in AA at a key position
    I like a Cesar/Galvis infield in 2014

    1. While Galvis’ hot streak clearly elevates him on our prospect lists, we always put far too much stock into short term performances. I thought Freddy was around the bottom of the top 20 (18-20) before the season. Now I would put him in the 10-13 range probably. He still has much to prove. I also wonder if he loses any defensive range if he bulks up in the weight room. Also, Reading is a really good HR park, so some of his new offense is because of the ballpark (and of course him repeating a level after the team had probably pushed him too aggressively in the low minors.

      He will need at least another year in AAA to prove himself, so we should not be looking to install him as our shortstop for a couple of years. I’d try to work out a 2-year deal with Rollins if possible. Maybe Galvis gets eased into a major league job in the Wilson Valdez role for a year as well.

      1. Great point on the Reading park, anybody remember Michael Costanzo? He hit 27 homers for Reading and then got traded. Based on those 27 homers, I thought he was going to turn into a 20-25 HR guy at 3rd base. Not quite…I think AAA is important for hitters, the guys at AA have the stuff required to pitch in the big leagues but not necessarily the command or pitching knowledge. Sign Jimmy for a 2-3 year deal and let Galvis continue to mature

        1. Over time, I have seen that AAA is the place where guys who can’t hit or fight off a good curve ball go to die. That’s why we need to keep our eyes on Overbeck. In Overbeck’s defense, I saw him this weekend and, while he swung and missed on a curve ball, he actually tracked the ball well and appeared to be in a good hitting position. In other words, he missed the pitch, but did not seem badly fooled. We’ll see, I suppose.

        2. But it’s the same Reading park he played in last year and didn’t have the HR … the park argument only works if it’s his first year at the park.

          1. Park argument still works. Last year he was overmatched. This year he is clearly stronger, but 12 HR in Reading might be 8-10 elsewhere. He has clearly increased his power from negligible to something measurable. Just does not yet mean that the power will translate to AAA and the majors.

            His progress is great this year. It just does not make him a candidate to be a major league starter quite yet, and definitely not next year.

            1. I agree, you actually made my argument for me. I’m saying he’s gotten stronger. That’s what I meant in the park doesn’t matter as it’s his second year. I’m not saying this means he’ll hit an equivalent number of homeruns in the big leagues. My point was since he’s repeating the same level (and same park), the increased power is due to HIS increase in power, having nothing to do with the park he’s playing in, since he played in the same park last year!!

              Bottom line … increase in HR THIS year is not park related, it is Galvis related … he’s stronger.

      2. I have the same concern about bulking up yet maintaining his defense. I hope he has not lost range/arm strength.

      3. Oddly enough, I looked at Galvis’s splits and he actually has better numbers in away games, including more home runs in fewer games. SSS, of course, but definitely not what I was expecting.

  9. VSL- Good games by 17 y.o. ‘s Herlis Rodriguez 1-4 (.348 season batting average) Jair Morelos 2-4 (.343) and
    Wilson Garcia 3-3 (.330).
    Slightly older crew: Jose Mayorga (who Caught) 3-3 (.269) Albertin Chavez 2-2 (.328)
    Good peitching performances by 2 youngest pitchers (Ronald Mendez (W) and Audrys Mora
    First professional save by Manaure Martinez

    DSL- relatively newly signed C- Rommel Cepeda 5-6, 2 2B, HR, 4 RBI’s (.309)
    6.1 innings in relief for Ulises Jaoquin (W)

    GCL-Only real line-up change- first game for newly signed 3B Trey Ford 0-3 3K, What is it with newly signed post HS draftees listed at 3B starting with all K games
    Ethan Stewart starts 6IP 5H 3BB 6K (W)

    WPT- Looks like regular first 2 Batters Hudson CF, and Dugan RF
    Asche 0-4 (.067)
    Harold Martinez pinch hit with a K (seems to be striking out some in early action)
    Another newly signed post HS listed as 3B debutee, Drew Hillman (DH) 0-3 with only 1 K
    Maikel Franco 3B 1-4 (.375), Aaron Altherr LF 1-4 2B (.438)

    Newly signed starter Gregory Herbst bombed somewhat.
    Newly signed LHP Austin Wright 4 IP 7 K in relief.

  10. My top 30 do overs biggest move up would be Aumont…..I really thought he was way over hyped. At this point he deserves to be in my top 15 maybe Top 10.

    Biggest loser has to be Gillies regardless of health issues or not. If he can’t keep himself on the field he can’t keep himself in my top 10.

    Biggest smoke and mirrors players I have 2. Galvis and Brown. The interest in Galvis is awesome. I love the kid just never believed and still don’t believe he can hit enough to be an everyday SS. So while the progression this season is nice to see I’ll need to see him sustain it through the end of this season and back it up at LHV next season before anointed a FG believer.

    As for Brown his swing is ugly most of the time still. 3-1 count last night and he rolls over a weak ground ball to the 2B. C’mon man hitters count like that you should hit a ball hard somewhere and unfortunately I see way to much of that from him. A plus note for him is he seems to have a really good eye.

    I know last week he had that 2 HR game and lots of guys started chirping and getting excited but let’s face it has 94 AB’s already and he is right back where he was last season with less PA’s.

    1. I agree with you on Galvis…it is nice to be seeing improvements, but let’s see it for a consistent amount of time.

      As for Brown I wholeheartedly disagree. He struck out at a much higher rate last year in fewer plate appearances, and his swing was much more long and loopy. This year Brown has shown dramatic improvement at the plate and has a .250ish BABIP. He’s going through the growing pains of adjusting to MLB pitching, and is in a slump. Not everyone can be a Posey or a Heyward as a rookie, especially someone as raw as Brown. He needs time to develop and its my hope the Phils give him that time. Didn’t Schmidt bat .198 as a rookie?

      1. Mike Schmidt did hit .196 in his true rookie season with 443 PA’s and he struck out 136 times and he hit 18 HR’s. I don’t think that is the point with Dom. I think his problems are in his confidence first and his swing second. We know he can hit he has done so at every level and at a high level.

        Finally let’s not get lost. Mike came up on team that had very low expectations. This team that Dom is on is a Championship Caliber Team. If he is not up to that task mentally it will be a tough road ahead for him.

        1. Pardon my previos post…Brown has a .205 Batting Average on Balls In Play….The MLB norm is .300…Those numbers are due to regress to the mean, and his average will most certainly come up.

          Dom’s had some very unfortunate luck on the balls he’s put in play, leading to his struggles. He’s making contact….just not to an empty spot in the field…He’s still got to work on his approach and swing, and it takes time..Given the inconsistent playing time last year, this should really be his rookie year, and besides the shotty average, he’s looking like a keeper. His batting average will go up, and it’s not like there’s a whole lot blocking his way. Keith Law had even noted that Brown may just be the odd prospect that needs to adjust in the Majors because Minor league pitching isn’t sufficient. I think he’ll be fine, he is getting valuable learning experience and if he has a good week his average will shoot up to .260ish..Just because he’s in a funk now doesn’t mean he’s overrated, just going through some bad luck.

          1. I’m with you on this, but his LD% is actually quite low, so I’m not sure the BABIP is entirely luck. I do think it is mostly luck, though.

            The dangers on a young guy like Brown are (1) team starts to have doubts & he loses playing time, and/or (2) loss of confidence. Avoid those pitfalls, and he will be fine.

            1. Very true, From everything the team has said…they’re sticking with him…Seems to be the pattern of most rookies…start off hot, cool down, and either adjust or get sent down….But The Phils don’t really have anyone waiting in the wings, and he’s already better defensively than Francisco. If the everyday lineup wasn’t going through a collective slump(albeit last night) I wonder how much attention Brown’s recent struggles would garner.

            2. I like the fact that his approach hasn’t changed, that he doesn’t seem to be pressing – only 3 Ks in his last 10 games.

            3. Honestly, I may be crazy/paranoid here, but I wonder if he’s still trying to lower his hands, which I think is a really bad idea.

              Okay, bear with me here. It seems to me that over the last few weeks during his cold streak, he’s been holding his hands lower again. This has thrown off his timing, leading to more fly balls and grounders and fewer line drives. His numbers seem to support this. Usually when a rookie struggles, they’re striking out. But Brown’s K rate is significantly lower than it ever was in the minors. However, his BABIP is ridiculously low, and that’s not just bad luck — he hasn’t been hitting line drives. His walk rate and ISO are close to what we saw in the minors, only the BABIP and K rates are off. That’s a pretty weird set of stats to explain, but it makes perfect sense if you accept my theory.

              I think that Brown will keep struggling until he raises his hands and gets back to doing what he did in the minors. I also fear that the coaching staff has been screwing with him by trying to change his swing.

  11. Glad to see Pete Lavin hitting well. My sister worked with him in San Francisco and has raved about his makeup. Hard worker, gym rat, and just a nice kid. I hope he progress through the system and turns himself into a legit prospect. I’ll be keeping an eye on him.

  12. Keith Law mentioned on twitter again yesterday that the Phillies attempted to make a big change to Singleton’s swing, but that he has now reverted back to his old mechanics. You can argue the merits of trying to make these changes, but I think its kind of different for hitters and pitchers. I think the fact that he’s been injured for a big chunk of the season also plays a part, and that he’s one of the youngest players in a pitcher friendly league is another factor.

    Which is why I’ve said a number of times that I’m not worried about him at all.

    1. My thinking crystallized a bit on this yesterday – I was a little worried, but upon reflection I’m not worried, but I do think this blip might impact his arrival time. Might being the key word.

      1. He’s still only 19…even if he spends another 3 full years in the majors that would take him to 22….not too bad!

        1. I entirely agree. Given the team’s age profile, though, it’s tempting to dream about faster progress.

          1. Although Howard is here for ages anyway and the Singleton LF experiment hasn’t really gone swimmingly so far, so of all the prospects he seems like the one who won’t hurt anything by taking his time.

            1. My perspective is almost the opposite: he is never going to play first base for the Phillies, unless it is a position switch after Howard leaves. Howard won’t be traded, even if they could find a taker. So if Singleton has to wait for Howard’s contract to be up, he’ll be spending 5 1/2 more years in the minors. That’s not happening (and shouldn’t happen) if he can’t play LF, he will be traded at some point.

              But I think he can and will play LF – and because that shift is going to happen at some point, his rough 1/2 year increases the chance of a delay. And they have a hole in LF now, with no immediate prospects of a replacement. I’m sure they will sign a FA, or pick up someone in a trade, but likely a stop gap kind of player. The sooner Singleton can hit the majors the better.

              Which of course is no reason to rush him; again, just reason for a mild disappointment in this year’s totally understandable blip in his development.

    2. I’m more worried but certainly happy to see that line this morning! I guess the point on the swing change is, there’s only a limited amount of info that we get from parsing these box scores.

    3. What are your thoughts on him moving from LF back to 1B? Are you even concerning yourself with him being “blocked” or is it a non-issue?

  13. “Center fielder Derrick Mitchell made a pair of outstanding catches, one on a fully extended dive into left-center gap in the third, the other a long run to pull down a fly ball at the wall in the sixth.” Mike Drago Reading Eagle

    1. Since he can play infield positions as well—he would probably be a better man on the roster than mini mart who does not seem to have any advanced skill at a much older age.

      1. Article Mitchell mentioned how much his hitting suffered when he was a middle infielder. He’s not going back to the infield.

        1. Agreed. Maybe if he’s in AAA, for a few years, he’ll start playing the infield every now and then to increase his chances of getting a cup of coffee. But at the moment, he should just concentrate on playing an effective CF and hitting.

          I’m also not convinced Mitchell’s bat would be that much better than MM. He still needs another year or two in the minors before he’s ready.

          1. One thing is for sure he is for real. He has great speed, great glove, and great power. I think Mitchell will get his shot and I think he will do something with it!

            1. I just don’t get these comments. Here we go:

              Player A – 24yo at AA
              256 PA, .277/.316/.464 9SB, 5.9%BB%, 21.1%K%

              Player B – 21yo at AA
              297PA, .271/.313/.403 8SB, 5.7%BB%, 13.5%k%

              Player A (Mitchell) is going to be a star. Player B (Galvis) will never hit in the majors. Is anybody able to explain this to me?

            2. Well Greg, I’m with you, but it isn’t the same group of people on both ends of this argument. The people touting Mitchell don’t seem to be engaging in the Galvis discussion at all, and the Galvis skeptics are even bigger Mitchell skeptics. And the Mitchell fans by and large don’t realize how important age/level is.

              I do think there are a lot of people who think that Galvis’ power is a mirage of some sort. I don’t, despite the half season sample size, for a variety of reasons.

            3. It’s hard to tell who is on what side of the argument what with all of the Anonymous posters and all.

            4. A point regarding sample size and Galvis (can’t find the original thread where it really belongs).

              HR totals stabilize relatively quickly, much much more so than BABIP. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=14215

              So the “sample size” argument has less weight for HR (and Ks and BBs). That’s a large part of the reason why some of us yawn when a prospect has a BABIP fueled BA surge but get excited by a significant increase in power (or improvements in Ks or BBs).

              LD% also takes much much longer to stabilize, another reason why Brown should be just fine.

            5. I agree with Larry on this discussion. I am a big fan of Mitchell and I am also confused at times by the Galvis bashing that sometimes occurs. I think a 21 year old shortstop in AA who is hitting well and showing more power is a gold mine. I don’t really think it matters if this is his second partial season in AA. Galvis could end up being a star.

              I also do not believe Derrick will ever play infield again. The Phillies saw something in his arm motion that they felt strongly needing to be changed. Very strong arm but maybe too long of a motion for professional baseball, but he never gained accuracy with his throws. Played 2 GCL seasons at SS. A- at 3B, A at 2B then moved to the outfield in Clearwater.

    2. I don’t think Mitchell will ever be a star but I think he has a shot at playing in the majors. If he keeps it up this year and ends the year hitting around .280 with around 20 hrs and 20 stolen bases, I think he will have a shot at getting picked in the rule 5 draft. If he doesn’t get picked, I see him playing in Lehigh Valley next year and if he does good there, maybe he can get called up to the phils and have a role on the bench as a backup outfielder and provide the bench with some speed and a little power.

      1. BJ—-agree, IMO Mitchell’s 4-tool skills equate to eventual 4th/5th OF in MLB. Probably just long enough to be eligible for the MLB pension plan.

        1. Mitchell I believe is a Minor league free agent at the end of the year if he isn’t put on the 40-man roster.

          1. He is 1st season plus 6 additional seasons. Also, Harold Garcia, Tuffy Gosewisch, and Tim Kennelly.

      2. To answer Greg
        simple if you ask me
        player A: (Mitchell)
        45 RBI
        Player B:(galvis)
        25 RBI
        A: 9 sb
        3 cs
        B: 8 sb
        A: 1 E
        B: 12 E
        A: young 24, 6’4″, 210lbs
        B:young 22, 5’10” 170lbs
        A: very multi-dimensional
        B: One position
        Don’t like to bash Galvis but this one is SIMPLE!! Who knows maybe we will both be right, I would love to see that happen, In watching Galvis I just don’t see that pro quality that can’t be seen in the STATS!!!!

        1. wow.

          that it is terrible analysis.

          if anyone ever sees me agreeing with one of eye in the sky’s comments in the future, please remind me of this comment so i can come to my senses.

          thank you

        2. Gotta side with the answer on this one. Galvis is younger and a much better defender than Mitchell. The reason Mitchell has to play so many positions is because he isn’t that highly thought of at any one obviously. I wish the hype for him would die down since he’s probably Jeremy slayden 2.0 which while not terrible is not anywhere near as good as the potential that Galvis has shown this year.

          IMO Galvis improvements this year with his overall hitting ability and his work with his body prove to me that he has the upside of a league average hitting SS and with his potential gold glove fielding that makes him a good starting option.

        3. Hate saying it but Eye’s right, stats dont win games ball player’s do. And Mitchell has had two game winning walk off clutch hits this year. breaking down stats can be fun but at the end of the day you better come up big in clutch situations or your stats wont be able to save you. Last time i checked mitchells stats are better in about every cat. I think Larry is right age does matter compared to level but you cant convince me that 24 is to old to be in AA, or to get a shot at the bigs.

        4. You know in a way this is a helpful discussion as we can see the thought processes behind some of the strange conclusions a few people draw around here.

          And honestly there is a small percentage of the people here who likely will never get it. Though you would think that eventually they would notice that none of their predictions ever come to pass.

          1. I mean, let’s transpose this argument to 1998 Clearwater:

            “Of course Harry Kill is a better prospect than Jimmy Rollins. Yes he is 5 years older, but you can’t convince me that 24 is to old to be in high A, or to get a shot at the bigs. He had 70 RBI versus 35 for Rollins. Rollins can play only SS, and Kiil is more versatile, playing all three OF positions. He had as many steals as Rollins with fewer CS, out homered him 14 to 6, destroyed Rollins in every hitting category – BB, OBP, SLG%, you name it. Sorry, Rollins just doesn’t have that pro quality – Kiil on the other hand is going to be a a STAR!!”

          2. Oh, almost forgot – 4 Errors for Kiil, 29 Errors for Rollins!! Man, that Rollins kid couldn’t field at all.

          3. LarryM—-thats is what is great about our country—-everyone has an opinion. And it is imperative that you continue to educate the less educated. That is your mantra and don’t disappoint.

  14. I like Ryan Howard and I hope she stays here for a long time, but so much could change by the time Singleton would be ready to contribute at the ML level that it’s really not worth worrying about yet. At one point Howard himself was the hot shot prospect blocked by a huge contract star player and we all now how that turned out. The way Singleton debuted last year we all had daydreams that he might one of those rare “phenom” prospects that jumps two levels every year, but the end of last year and beginning of this year indicate he may take the more traditional development path which is fine. I’ll wait to worry where he fits on the major league team when he’s crushing AA ball.

    1. He’s had a terrible season, yet he’s got almost a .380 OBP as a 19 year-old in high A ball. He is going to hit and when he does, watch out. I’m not worried.

  15. Does anyone have any thoughts on Susdorf? The guy appears to be a hitting machine without a defensive position. No matter what level he’s at – he hits .310 with decent power to the alleys.

    Just wondering if he’s a 4th OF or a potential LF a few years out??

    1. I had asked a similar question a few days ago; I posted the question to PP on his Q&A forum. Not a lot of responses out there… but he is doing quite well with the bat.

    1. No. But it’s a pretty unlikely hypothetical. The Phillies IMO shouldn’t do it, but the Astros won’t do it. In a million years.

      1. Yes, the Astros would have a public relations disaster of catastrophic proportions if they tried to do that. Kiss the rest of the fans there goodbye. Not going to happen.

  16. Singleton’s OBP is fantastic for a .250 hitter, even if his slugging % is pedestrian. You can’t really teach a good eye, and in that Singleton possesses something that few of our hitting prospects can lay claim to. He’s still a kid. He’ll be fine

  17. . no way the astros make that deal. they are going to want a replacement in outfield and pitching for him. i wondering if the diamondbacks would take prospect, for upton, and maybe a stutes plus colvin and singleton or not enough

  18. Ashe finally started hitting today so far with 2 one of them a double. Is him at second a real focast for him as he moves through the system or is it just shuffling trying to get at bats for everyone? It would be great to have a power hitting prospect at second in the minors, especially a college drafted player who could move somewhat quickly if he produces like he did with the new college bats

  19. @keithlaw keithlaw
    Cosart. RT @WilsonCE: @keithlaw better prospect: Cosart or May? #Phillies

  20. Encouraging …

    May … 7 ip – 1 hits – 0 runs – 2 bb – FOURTEEN k’s
    Jc Ramirez – 7 ip – 4 hits – 1 er – 0 bb – 5 k’s

    Not sure if they are going to continue in the games

  21. Of course Cosart is a better prospect: younger, better fastball and much better control. However, May has proven more durable, throwing a lot more innings. A pessimist would see May as a 3/4 starter and Cosart in the bullpen, but an optimist sees Cosart and May as the 1 and 2 starters in a strong rotation. A better question would be who is a better prospect: May or Colvin?

    Here’s something to consider- would you rather have traded Singleton than Gose?

    1. This is not hindsight. I would have preferred to trade Singleton, rather than BOTH Villar and Gose for Oswalt. I like Singleton as a prospect, but I thought trading two premium prospects that play SS and CF was a good deal for the Astros.
      But since they kicked in money, they probably deserved more.

      1. I’d rather keep the higher upside prospect than the 2 lower rated but still good prospects personally. Singleton, if it comes together, is an elite all-star type hitter. Gose and Villar likely arent that.

        Its not as if either is lighting it up in AA right now.

        Out of all the guys we traded away, d”Arnaud was probably the greatest loss.

        1. Gose and Villar are both 20 and in AA. Villar’s promotion looks aggressive, but Gose looks like he belongs (He was excellent in May and has been awful in June). Both those guys are good defenders at premium defensive positions. They both have All-Star potential in my mind.

    1. How did May’s off-speed stuff look? I mean, we know he has a great fastball but he needs the other pitches to advance.

      1. His slider looked filthy. The Yankees were flailing at it. The only hit he gave up was an opposite field ground rule double that barely made it inside the foul line.

  22. Galvis to AAA LV later this season? He’d then be a possible replacement for J-Roll in ’12.

    You gotta believe that Galvis is the fall back guy if the right deal with Jimmie doesn’t materialize.
    In fact IMO Reuben would want to have an option to JRoll going into the off season. Certainly a better bargaining position.

    Galvis at LV later…? Could happen.

  23. Read on another site that Garner’s issue was he got ill for a week or so, and that put him behind in his throwing program. Just rounding into game shape now.

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