92 thoughts on “Box Score Recap, 11 July 2011

  1. Organization Depth Chart

    First base

    (24) Matt Rizzotti (REA/12/24/85) – (.296) 2 for 4 with a HR (17), RBI (55), 2 BB and a K
    (3) Jon Singleton (CLE-8/18/91)- (.275) –1 for 3 with a run, 2 RBI (37)
    Darin Ruff (CLE-7/28/86) – (.314) 2 for 4 with an RBI (51) and 2 K’s
    Brock Stassi (WIL-8/7/89) – (.333) – 0 for 4
    Matthew Holland (GCL/Age 23) – (.306) 0 for 2 with 2 runs and a BB
    Chris Duffy (GCL-12/17/87) – (.209) 0 for 4 with an RBI (10)

    Second base

    Paco Figueroa (RED-2/19/83) – (.237) 3 for 3 with a 2B (5), 2 runs, 2 RBI (9) and 2 BB
    (12) Cesar Hernandez (CLE/Age 21) – (.257) 1 for 3 with a SB (11) and a K
    Cody Asche (Williamsport/ Age 21) – (.218) 0 for 3 with a BB and a K

    Third base

    Carlos Rivero (RED-5/20/88) – (.272) 2 for 5
    Jeremy Barnes (CLE/Age 24) – (.284) 2 for 4 with a 2B (14), RBI (27) and a K
    Maikel Franco (WIL-8/26/92) – (.258) –0 for 3 with a B and a K
    Drew Hillman (GCL/Age 22) – (.394) – 3 for 3 with a 2B (4), 2 runs and a BB


    Freddy Galvis (REA-11/14/89)) – (.257) –1 for 6 with 2 RBI (29) and 2 K’s
    Kevin Frandsen (CLE-5/24/82) – (.286) 2 for 3 with a 2B (2) and a run
    Taylor Black (WIL-2/17/89) – (.242) 3 for 4 with a HR (1), 2 RBI (7) and 2 runs
    Alejandro Villalobos (GCL/8/20/91) – (.333) 2 for 4 with a run and RBI (10)
    Gustavo Gonzalez (GCL-1/23/91) – (.227) 2 for 4

    Corner infield

    Steve Susdorf (REA/Age 25) – (.337) 0 for 5 with a K
    Michael Spidale (REA/29) – (.319) 0 for 4
    Terry Evans (RED-1/19/82) – (.145) 2 for 4 with 2 runs, SB (1) and a K
    Brian Gump (CLE/Age 24) – (.232) 1 for 3 with a BB and K
    D’Arby Myers (CLE/Age 22) – (.261) 0 for 3 with a K
    (15) Aaron Altherr (WIL-1/14/91) – (.291) – 0 for 4 with a run and a K
    (28) Kelly Dugan (WIL-9/18/90) –(.284) – 1 for 3 with a HR (1), 4 RBI (12)
    Luis Unda (WIL-1/28/90) – (.353) 1 for 3 with a run and RBI (3)
    Brian Pointer (GCL-1/28/92) – (.263) – 0 for 3 with a BB and a K
    Bernardo Solarte (GCL/1/23/92) – (.179) 0 for 3 with a run, RBI (4), BB and K


    Derrick Mitchell (REA/Age 24)- (.290) 1 for 5 with 2 runs, SB (11) and a K
    (18) Jiwan James (CLE/4/11/89) – (.269) – 1 for 2 with 2 runs, BB and a K
    Peter Lavin (GCL-12/27/87) – (.292) 1 for 4 with 2 RBI (12)


    Tuffy Gosewisch (REA-8/17/83) – (.278) 0 for 3 with an RBI (43), BB and a K
    Torre Langley (CLE-10/9/87) – (.000) 0 for 3 with a K
    Bob Stumpo (WIL-/17/87) – (.282) 2 for 2 with 2 runs and 2 BB
    Logan Moore (GCL-8/22/90) – (.148) 0 for 1
    John Hill (GCL-2/11/89) – (.278) 1 for 2 with an RBI (5), BB and a K

    Starting Right-handers

    B.J. Rosenberg (RED-9/17/85) – (2-4, 4.83) 3 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 0 BB and & K’s
    (2) Brody Colvin (CLE-8/14/90)- (2-3, 3.82) – 8 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB and 9 K’s (win)
    Austin Wright (WIL-9/26/89) – (1-0, 2.70) – 2 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 2 ER, BB and 3 K’s
    Ramon Oviedo (GCL-7/24/90) – (2-0, 2.45) 6 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 0 ER, BB and 7 K’s

    Right-handed relievers

    (29) Josh Zeid (REA-3/24/87) – (2-3, 6.19, 1 SV) 2 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 0 BB and 3 K’s
    Jordan Whatcott (CLE-6/10/85) – (1-1, 3.32, 2 SV) 0.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, BB and a K (save)
    Juan Sosa (CLE-10/11/89) – (0-0, 0.00) 0.1 IP, 1 J, 1 R, 0 ER, 2 BB and 0 K’s
    Hector Neris (WIL-6/14/89) – (0-1, 1.29) 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB and 4 K’s
    Cody Fick (WIL-10/20/87) – (1-1, 5.52) 2 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 2 BB and 0 K’s
    Yacksel Rios (GCL-6/27/93) – (0-0, 0.00) 1.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 3 BB and a K

    Left-handed relievers

    Joe Savery (RED-11/4/85) – (1-0, 1.10) 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB and 3 K’s
    Derrick Loop (RED-12/11/83) – (1-1, 1.64) 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB and a K (win)
    Jacob Diekman (RED-1/21/87) – (0-0, 3.86, 2 SV) 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB and a K
    Chris Kissock (RED-5/2/85) – (2-7, 5.65) 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, BB and 0 K’s
    Austin Brough (WIL-12/9/87) – (1-1, 0.82) 3 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB and 3 K’s (win)
    James Birmingham (GCL-8/2/88) – (1-0, 0.93, 5 SV) 1.2 IP, 0 H, 1 1R, 1 ER, 1 BB and 2 K’s (save)

    1. This is pretty fantastic. Just give him mod abilities to add these to the bottom of each daily recap.

    2. Austin Wright is a Left Hander and Chris Kissock is a Right Hander.

      Organizational depth chart among those who played in games of the night before.

      Looks like you moved Galvis, Mitchell, et.al. from Redding to Reading, given the REA abbreviation, in lieu of the RED abbreviation. Yet, some RED abbreviations remain, if that be an indication of those considered legit, then congratulations to Galvis , Mitchell, etc.
      I always thought Reading should be abbreviated RDG.

    1. Two of the three hits he gave up were to Chris Coghlan. I’d say that was a pretty good start.

    2. Three of his last 4 starts have been good. He needed to get by the injury and then get back into pitching shape.

  2. Oviedo has had three good starts in a row. Let’s hope he gets pushed up to the NYPL by the end of the year, as he is a tad old for the GCL (almost 21).

  3. Seeing a name like Alejandro Villalobos makes me really wish Harry Kalas was still around to pronounce some of these names…

    Speaking of Villalobos….prospect?

    1. He could be a prospect. He is slightly old for GCL (turns 20 next month). But he also has not played that much with only 13 AB last year if I recall. Seems to be an offensive middle infielder who is jumping ahead of both the overage high profile guys we signed last winter (G. Gonzalez and F. Silva). If I had to guess (since he has played more 2B than SS) he is more of an offensive middle infielder that will eventually be a 2B.

      I will say that he has caught a lucky break with the 2 Venezuelan guys being older and none of the HS shortstops being signed yet. Looks like he is taking advantage of the break though I really don’t know how well he is regarded as a prospect.

  4. thoughts on rizzotti getting moved at the trade deadline? maybe an AL team in need of offense with a reliever surplus? i think he deserves a chance outside the organization

        1. We got bullpen pieces in the minors – JdF and Schwim – hopefully the org’s focus is elsewhere

          1. De Fratus and Schwim are not the type of bullpen pieces we need. We need another experienced top end reliever. Both of them are nice prospects but you dont entrust a championship level team to a bullpen full of rookies. With Contreras likely gone for the season, Madson still hurting and Lidge still rehabbing, another experienced elite reliever is a high priority.

            Another OF bat would be nice but its not as important as a strong bullpen. Right now we have 2 reliable relievers in the entire bullpen in Bastardo and Stutes. Stutes has been showing some cracks already on top of that. You cant keep going to that well. The rest of the BP is AAAA dregs and journeymen who have no business pitching in a meaningful game.

            1. I think they are fine. I think you are over reacting a wee bit. Madson healthy handles the 9th then back up from there. 8th can be situation Bastardo/Stutes/Lidge same with the 7th and then you have this kid out of no where that used only as a loogy fits perfectly.

              I have no problems entrusting my championship team to that group. Again give me a RH bat I can trust in a big game, in the playoffs and in the WS a la Cody Ross. A guy who seemingly comes out of no where and gets the job done!

              Find me that guy….

            2. The problem with finding a Lightning in a Bottle type guy like Cody Ross is that it’s basically impossible to do so. It was a fluke that Ross just happened to get hot that week of the season (the NLCS)…odds of it happening again are under 5%.

              Another reliever would be a good thing. You cant assume Lidge will come back and be effective.

              Writing in Juan Perez as the 2nd Lefty after 3.1 innings is a bit ridiculous too. Wow, he had 2 good games against the Braves. He’s a 32 year old AAA journeyman with zero command.

              A bullpen arm is more important than an OF bat.

          2. I think that the folks who are focused on the Phillies picking up what would be an expensive (in terms of prospects surrendered) bullpen arm are overreacting. This team has acquitted itself extremely well even when it had only Stutes and Bastardo at the back end and Madson is returning soon and Schwimer remains an intriguing option at AAA if additional help is needed. I would be okay with them picking up a LOOGY type or other inexpensive piece (think Scott Eyre), but this team needs consistent right-handed hitting and, preferably, power hitting, to succeed in the post-season. Adding a strong hitter is, in my view, much more pressing than any other need the team might have.

            1. The Phillies need to add a veteran set up man to join Lidge and Madson at the back end of the bullpen. Someone like Gregerson, Bell, or Qualls.

              Then you have Bastardo to go against the team’s best left hander. I don’t worry about Bastardo.

              I worry about Stutes. Stutes has been good this year, but every so often, he has a game where he comes in and walks 1 or 2 guys and gives up a 2 run home run (in the same inning). I don’t want to be concerned about him in the post season.

              The Phillies offense can get them to the post season. All they need is a guy who can platoon with Ibanez.

            2. I know many on here believe that Baez’s role as the 7th reliever is not a big deal, but I truly believe the effectiveness of Stutes and Bastardo in October will be contingent upon them not being drastically overused the rest of the regular season. Because of that, we need to get Madson and Lidge back, and either Schwimer or DeFratus up and hopefully one of them can take on a meaningful role in the middle innings. If that happens, I believe the need for a reliever is over-stated.

        2. They’d be interested but he doesn’t have the status of Rizzotti straight up for a reliever.

  5. It’s hard not to notice Drew Hillman in the early part of the season. Does his age (22 yrs) and college experience (relative to the pitching he’s facing at that level) make his start less impressive than it appears to me? I realize it is early too…

    1. I think Hillman should be pushed to Wmsprt but Maikel Franco is sitting on 3rd up there. Hillman’s tearing the cover off the ball (albeit in 9 games). He’s advanced for the GCL. James initial impression of him at draft time was as a fringy prospect. Coming out of high school (4 years ago) he looked like a top prospect. Maybe the pro game will elevate his game.

    2. I was about to post on Hillman too. Short sample size + 22 yr old in GCL = Gotta be cautious about our enthusiam, but he still has been tearing it up down there. Looking him up on the draft register, James had him listed as an organizational fodder-type of player. Still, I’ve taken notice and have been following him.

      – Jeff

  6. Woo Colvin. And good to see Lidge strike a couple of guys out in rehab. Plus Savery’s line is really nice tonight.
    I have no idea what to make of Rosenberg’s night. Gets 7 Ks in 3 innings but gives up two bombs? Quite strange.

  7. Glad to see Colvin have a nice start. Hopefully he can turn his season around and become the #2 pitching prospect in the organization again.

  8. Really nice to see Colvin have a dominating game. We haven’t seen anything like that since last year. Hopefully that is a sign for things to come. Jiwan James keeps getting on base. Looking for strong 2nd halfs from both of them.

    1. Wish him luck?

      I’m guessing everyone has already moved on to the next career minor leaguer who’s getting unfairly screwed by the man.

        1. I only claimed he would be a candidate for an MLB call-up at a time before that was even considered by any.. And as to the assertion before that that was only because of the Yankees great need for pitching at the time, that’s what a call-up is , if a team did not need to fix their roster there would never be a player called up. The Yankees had all of their own and most of the rest of teams’ minor league pitchers to choose from.

  9. I emailed a full report to PP this morning on the Reading game that will hopefully be up today- Savery threw 18 pitches in his inning and 4 of them were 90 or above (actually 90-91-92-93 were the exact #’s on the Reading gun)

      1. I’ve heard similar reports. Not quite sure what to think of Savery’s small sample success out of the pen. His fastball will never be a +pitch in the majors so I’d doubt he can contribute out of a big league pen. He’ll turn 26 in November.

        1. Never say never. If the Reading gun is really two mph slow and if NYphilmaniac copied the numbers correctly (see next thread) then he is throwing fastballs in the 90s, ranging up to 95. That is plenty good enough for a lefthanded reliever.

  10. Pretty amazing what is going on with Savery! I wonder what has triggered the increased velocity plus sharper breaking ball? Maybe he was pressing as strictly a pitcher who saw his prospect clock ticking away. Perhaps the move allowed him to relax a bit and start showing the stuff they thought he had when they drafted him??? Here is hoping the guy makes it up this year as a LH reliever. Would be a nice niche for him to be able to pinch hit for the pitcher and then pitch the next inning, would save uncle Charlie a move or two.

    1. Maybe he just needed some extended time off for his arm to recover? Up till now, he’s probably been pushing himself for several seasons to be a better pitcher. Maybe not doing that just let it fully heal on its own.

      Personally, I think he’s more Org Filler to help out Lehigh’s pen after its lost Carpenter, Mathieson, Stutes and Perez but its nice to think there’s an outside shot of him making it to the Majors as a LOOGY at some point.

      1. Like I said yesterday, once rosters expand September 1, most teams will add another LH relief Pitcher. Philly candidates would be Mike Zagurski, Jacob Diekman , or Savery. Zagurski has not excelled in MLB appearances, and he can be bounced to become a minor league free agent after the season. Diekman is even more of a question mark than the others. So I say Savery is the best option. Of course, I predicted this way early in the offseason, only to have this criticized. Let’s wait till September 1. I don’t think he’s filler for the great Carpenter.

          1. I don’t predict a lot of random things, I predict a few specific things, based upon personal observations and a few basic stats, while those with what they believe to infinitely more advanced methodology can not seem to see coming. Most of what I have predicted has come to pass. Who else would have predicted a call up to MLB for Savery early in the offseason, or even agreed with it. No one. And if you can truthfully recall one specific thing I got wrong and there is no more chance for it to come to pass, you should bring it forward.

            1. Bragging about a prediction that has yet to come to fruition? Anything can happen, but Savery will not play any significant role for the big club this season. There’s my prediction

  11. How much do you guys think it would cost (prospect-wise) to get Heath Bell. I mean it is only for half of one year, so probably not the big guys. Right?

    1. I don’t believe its worth discussing because its not going to happen unless Madson went down for the season. When you think towards the playoffs you only need 3 maybe 4 starters. Our starters go deep into games.

      If they are going to add anything it will be a seasoned professional hitting RH bat.

      1. Rube has openly stated that relief pitching is the top priority…and that was before the bad news on Contreras was leaked publically.

      2. A lock down bullpen is the key to winning a title. The Giants proved that last year (we hit their starters pretty good besides Cain) and the Phillies in 08 proved that with Romero-Madson-Lidge at the backend.

        1. Agreed, a lockdown bullpen in the post-season really means having a 1) dominant closer, 2) dominant RH setup man, and 3) a dominant LH setup man. Relievers 4 through 6 or 7 are hardly used in the playoffs. We had exactly that in ’08 with Lidge, Madson, and Romero, and think we have the makings for that this year with Madson and Bastardo, but whether Lidge or Stutes can be the third guy is a question mark. I believe Bastardo in October also remains a question mark. Can’t imagine a team winning a short series against Halladay, Hamels, Lee, and Oswalt starting, followed by a Bell, Madson, Bastardo bullpen.

    2. I suspect the Padres are the primary focus for RAJ and team. Bell and Ludwick would both be fits but would also offer compensation picks. Ludwick alone might be had for a mid-level prospect, but Bell would require significant compensation given his A status headed into free agency. We needed a back end arm before the Contreras setback and Bell seems like a realistic addition.

      I’d say ‘youngsters’ instead of ‘prospects’ since Brown and Worley would likely be targeted by other teams. As contributors to the big league club, I’d suspect the Phils to balk at moving either player. It would probably take a package led by Cosart or Singleton to get Bell. Perhaps the Phils can move Francisco or Kendrick to unload some salary. I don’t expect either to be offering arbitration anyway.

      How bout Cosart, James and Kendrick for Bell and Ludwick?

      1. “It would probably take a package led by Cosart or Singleton to get Bell. ”

        No it wouldn’t.

        1. Great rebuttal. The Padres stand to gain two early picks for Bell alone. They would need to receive equal value in return. You take Worley and Brown off the table, then Cosart and Singleton, and you don’t have a whole lot of bargaining power. Other teams will surely be in on Bell as well, so our package must be the most attractive. Bell is a package deal. The 2-month rental and the compensatory picks. Get a grip

            1. And to be clear, I don’t think the Phillies will look at Bell. Not if there is much competition at least.

              And I wouldn’t take Worley off the table in theory (though in practice, with our SP depth, that might not be practicable). He is not as valuable commodity as Cosart or Singleton.

    3. I’d say it would take Worley, either Singleton or Cosart, and maybe either Jiwan James, Leandro Castro, or Zach Collier. I’m not saying I’d do it but that’s how much I think it would take. The most I’d give up is a package like Trevor May, Vance Worley, and Leandro Castro.

      1. I understand that Heath Bell is a proven vet whereas Worley has only a handful of MLB starts and the other guys are a while off, but no way do I give up a young, controllable starting pitcher, a top prospect, and a toolshed for a reliever.

  12. Dugan with his 1st professional homerun…that along with Colvin’s gem. Hopefully some of the guys who’ve struggled to date pick it up for the stretch run. If the Phils system is being considered Top 5 right now, I cannot imagine where they’d be if guys like Dugan and Colvin pick it up. Add to that the recent draftees and we’re truly in the Golden Age of Phils baseball, up and down the organization.

    1. Actually the second pro homer for Dugan, hit one in his nine-game rehab stint in the GCL last year. Morandini and Velandia made a small swing adjustment for him about three weeks ago. Moved his hands forward ever so slightly and getting more of a load in his swing so he can transfer more weight to the front side as he swings. He’s driving the ball better to all fields. Turned it into a .343 avg., .543 SLG., .938 OPS in his last 10 games. Really seems to have made a difference.

      Here’s my story from the Crosscutters’ win last night … Yeah, I know, shameless plug: http://sungazette.com/page/content.detail/id/566167/Cutters-beat-Mahoning-Valley.html?nav=5017

      1. Mitch, don’t feel bad about linking your game reports. I never think to look for them on my own, but when they are posted here I click through.

  13. jorge thinking same thing. and it might well happen contreas is almost likely done for season. amaro wont trust bastardo and stutes in eighth and nine inning situation like regular season. playoff he wants a veteran to help close or pitch eight inning. he could get a right hand bat like matt diaz or could spell a ibanez against tought left hand pitching, or to counter atlanta with the left handder they have to offset the phillies.this team could be like the 93 team in one sense that team if y remember .theyhad guys like inky and others who if a lefthand came in they knew they were pitch hitter,nice to get a slugger but two would take two guys who can get a hit or walk in late inning situations.

  14. Interesting article on BA(subscriber only) regarding the Phillies Clearwater rotation.

    Cosart – Same things that have been said before, velocity is there, the secondary pitches show promise but are inconsistent. The delivery could also be a problem.

    May – Delivery has scouts worried about him sticking in the rotation. Has excellent deception on the fastball which leads to missed bats.

    Colvin – The stuff is still there even if the season has not been good up until last night. Fastball sits 92-95 and potential for two plus secondary pitches.

    Pettibone – Has a real easy delivery with excellent command of his pitches. They rate the fastball as average sitting 90-93 but the changeup and slider which could end up being plus.

    Nothing was written on Rodriguez, which makes me wonder if scouts view him as a legitimate prospect.

    1. Another BA article (subscriber only) this time it is the Phillies Midseason Report. Not much new in it.

      Best Player: Cosart edges Valle
      Biggest Leap Forward: Pettibone
      Biggest Disappointment: Colvin (obviously written a few days ago)

    2. If he is still 87-89, probably not. I’d expect them to move him back to the bullpen at some point to see if that velocity will tick up . . . he certainly has the secondary pitches to be effective at higher levels, but that fastball won’t fool anybody.

  15. The GCL Phils lost today but Andre Kinder pitched well going 3 1/3 innings and 4ks. I would like to see Kinder and Birmingham, both lefties and will be 23 by the end of the yr, get promoted to Williamsport or Lakewood and see what they have. The Phils have a need for lefty relievers. All they have is Zagurski and Diekman. I guess you need to include Savery as well. Oops one more Hollands.

      1. talking about grooming pitchers…Perez is 32…he is riding a good streak but he is most likely a career AAA guy…the Phils have some real good right handed relievers in the system…I would like to see a nice hard throwing lefty behind Bastardo on the depth chart..I’ve seen enough of Zagurski and he is not that option. Jay Johnson I overlooked as I must have seen the R next to his name bat that was for his hitting. He is only 22 but he looks like he walks alot of people.

  16. Maybe the phillies should get Marcus Thames. He is having a bad season but he was just DFA. He is a right handed bat with a lot of power. I think it would take very little or even nothing to get him.

  17. Think it is time to move some guys. Both Ruf and Murphy have been good soldiers and are having good years. Murphy just hit 2 more hrs tonight and has an average of .285 19 hrs and 61 rbi. Ruf is batting over .310 and has 7 hr and 51 rbi.

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