Around the System–Starting Pitching, Top Half

A look at the Starting Pitching for the top half of the organization.  Look for the report on the lower half (Lakewood, Williamsport, and GCL at the end of the week)

Lehigh Valley

Brian Bass, 29, 4-5 with a 4.54 ERA in 15 starts; 85.1 IP 97H 33BB 49K; 9 HR allowed, 1.52 WHIP, 2.79 GO/AO; .289 opp. avg., .292 vs. LH, .286 vs. RH; .263 with RISP; Has gone at least 6 innings in each of his last nine starts.  The ‘Pigs rotation has been decimated by injury and call ups and Bass has been the one constant.  Constant in the sense that he has gone out there every five days.  Some good, some bad, and some ugly.

Ryan Feireabend, 25, 5-5 with a 6.24 ERA in 14 starts, 70.2 IP 77H 28BB 48K; 1.11 GO/AO; .280 opp. avg., 1.49 WHIP; 16 HR allowed, .215 vs. LH, .300 vs. RH, .333 with RISP.  Getting absolutely crushed by the hone run ball and struggles with RISP.  Not a good combination.

Tim Redding, 34, 2 starts, 0-1 with a 3.75 ERA. Went from a free agent two weeks ago to the front of the Lehigh Valley rotation.  Capable veteran innings eater.

Ryan Edell, 27, 5-3 with a 4.17 ERA in 14 starts between Reading and Lehigh Valley; 82 IP 93H 13BB 58K; 1.10 GO/AO; 1.29 WHIP; .284 opp. avg., After pitching well in his first 12 starts for Reading, Edell has gotten hit hard both times out for the ‘Pigs.

Tyson Brummett, 26, 2-5 with a 3.48 ERA; 24 games (5 starts) between Reading and Lehigh Valley; 62IP 62H 22BB 47K 1.35 WHIP; 1.68 GO/AO; .261 opp. avg., Has done about as well as someone without overpowering stuff can bouncing between Reading and Lehigh Valley and the bullpen to the rotation.

Reading

Austin Hyatt, 25, 6-5 with a 4.38 ERA in 15 starts; 84.1IP 72H 31BB 93K, 1.22 WHIP; 13 HR allowed, 0.70 GO/AO; .230 opp. avg., .173 vs. LH, .272 vs. RH, .215 with RISP.  Hyatt has been generally effective and when he struggles, it is the HR ball that gets him in trouble.

JC Ramirez, 22, 5-7 with a 4.11 ERA in 13 starts; 72.1 IP 66H 26BB 31K; 0.63 GO/AO; .241 opp. avg., 1.27 WHIP; 6 HR allowed, .240 vs. LH, .241 vs. RH, .290 with RISP; 0-4 with a 7.85 ERA in June.  The Phils have been teaching him to “pitch to contact” and alot of contact it has been in June. After a great start, he has been quite pedestrian since.

BJ Rosenberg, 25, 2-3 with a 4.42 ERA in 19 games (8 starts); 59IP 63H 17BB 55K; 1.36 WHIP; 1.09 GO/AO; .280 opp. avg., 4 HR allowed, 2-3 with a 5.72 ERA in 8 starts; .304 vs. LH, .257 vs. RH, .274 with RISP.  After several good starts, Rosenberg got crushed his last time out.  (0.1IP 7ER)

Tyler Cloyd, 24, 4-2 with a 2.76 ERA; 18 games 9 starts between CLearwater and Reading; 65.1 IP 56H 9BB 62K;0.99 WHIP;  1.25 GO/AO; .229 opp. avg., 1-1 with a 2.77 ERA in 5 games (4 starts) for Reading.  With possibly the best command in the organization, Cloyd is putting it together this year.

Joe Esposito, 26, 2-2 with a 3.20 ERA; 22 games, 3 starts between Clearwater and Reading; 50.2IP 45H 25BB 43K; 1.38 WHIP; 0.67 GO/AO; .249 opp. avg., Esposito has pitched well in the many different roles asked of him this year.

Clearwater

Brody Colvin, 20, 0-3 with a 4.47 ERA in 10 starts; 50.1IP 52H 21BB 36K; 1.45 WHIP; 1.67 GO/AO; .267 opp. avg., .250 vs. LH, .284 vs. RH, .184 with RISP.  Colvin had back issues at the beginning of the year and is not all the way back to what we expected his year to be.  Looking for a better second half.

Jarred Cosart, 21, 6-5 with a 3.15 ERA in 14 starts; 80IP 63H 33BB 63K; 1.20 WHIP; 1.75 GO/AO; .218 opp., .187 vs. LH, .254 vs RH, .231 with RISP.  Maybe not quite as overpowering as I thought he would be this year, but very, very good.

Trevor May, 21, 4-4 with a 3.23 ERA in 14 starts; 78IP 57H 38BB 102K; 1.21 WHIP; 0.70 GO/AO; .206 opp. avg., .235 vs. LH, .177 vs. RH, .265 with RISP.  He has limited the occasions during which he has struggled with his control and has overpowered the opposition on several occasions, including his last start.

Jon Pettibone, 20, 7-4 with a 2.80 ERA in 14 starts; 83.2IP 80H 20H 63K; 1.19 WHIP; 0.99 GO/AO; .257 opp. avg., .250 vs. LH, .265 vs. RH, .253 with RISP; 2-1 with a 5.73 ERA in 4 June starts. Has been excellent this year, albeit with a somewhat bumpy stretch in June.

Julio Rdoriguez, 8-5 with a 3.33 ERA in 14 starts; 78.1 IP 54H 37BB 70K; 0.56 GO/AO; .198 opp. avg., 1.16 WHIP; 6 HR allowed, .221 vs. LH, .173 vs. RH, .203 with RISP; 2-2 with a 5.87 ERA in 4 June starts. See Pettibone comments.

36 thoughts on “Around the System–Starting Pitching, Top Half

  1. I was thinking the same thing….who is the 6th, 7th starting pitcher in the org? Ive heard Amaro talk about it that way…they always know who would be next. Would they give Mathieson a start since he started a few games for LHV?

    1. The 6th and 7th starting pitchers in the org are Worley and Kendrick. Redding is probably 8th.

    2. I don’t think it would be Mathieson. His longest outing in LHV was less than 4 innings I believe. It’s probably Redding, as much as I hate to say it. However, this situation is why I always laughed at the folks on this board who thought we should just release Kendrick earlier this year. Depth is key folks!

    1. Gotta think Hyatt would get the nod before Ramirez; he fits the mold of the kind of pitcher you’d want to pull from AA in that spot (college pitcher, low-ceiling/high floor, solid but unspectacular results). No way they’d mess with May’s development by calling him up.

  2. Call me nuts but May is a guy I wouldn’t hesitate to call on for a few spot starts. I like his K/9 Rate and I like his WHIP. I think he is the type of rookie that could come up and have success in the short term.

    MLB hitters hate facing guys they haven’t seen before (guys with the type of stuff he has)

    1. You’re nuts. Happy?

      Why take a kid out of A+ and possibly ruin his confidence just for a couple of 5 inning stints in the majors? I’d rather do a bullpen committee game or even forfiet before messing with a top prospect’s head.

      1. You don’t know his make-up I don’t know his make-up a decision like that would be made only after talking to his coaches I’m sure. You sound like a sissy to worry about his confidence and as Guru points out its been done before.

        Not every young prospect is so mentally weak that they can’t put a bit of adversity in perspective. Again I don’t know the kid but just looking at periphials his say he would be worth considering. From there I’m sure Ruben is asking the questions about his mental toughness and whether or not he could take a rough few starts in stride.

        1. DMAR, bptess was being kind. It is beyond absurd to even think about bringing May up. No one is asking questions about May’s mental toughness because it (rightly) wouldn’t occur to anyone in the organization to bring him up. Even if the entire major league staff suddenly went on the DL, there isn’t the remotest chance that anyone would even consider for a second bringing May up.

          Maybe my memory is off, but I thought you used to be a reasonable commenter. But this, after (as I recall) a couple days ago you wanted to bring Mitchell up to replace Brown, which had the distinction of being stupid in two different ways.

    2. The Phillies do not have a history of double jumping pitchers (or more) to the majors. The last one to do this was Kyle Kendrick, and the Phillies had no choice, the AAA pitchers didn’t deserve it. Best case for May is he lands at Lehigh at the end of the year.

      1. Didn’t they double jump bruce ruffin back in 86 when they cut lefty?? Look how well that worked out!!

  3. Most disappointing is JC Ramirez. I have to remember that he is just 22. Reminds me a bit of Carrasco at this point, though Carrasco had better performances at lower levels. The free agency clock is ticking on Ramirez though. Already his second option year is at AA. Next year will be AAA and then needs to earn a spot on the major league roster all season after that. I could see the Phillies converting him to a reliever next season and tell him just to strikeout as many guys as he can.

    As far as pitching depth my rankings would be: Redding, Hyatt, Cloyd, Herndon, then any other AAA guy (Bass, Feireabend, Edell) then Valdez.

    1. Yes Yes Yes…JC Ramiere should and will be a reliever in the majors. The all this pitching to contact crap will be over and is stuff will really play up as a 1 or 2 inning guy

  4. Hyatt is the only real prospect (albeit a fringe prospect) I would consider. Start with Redding and then bring up the other mercs if necessary. In other words, let’s hope Blanton and Oswalt get well real soon.

  5. First May would not be double jumping. He’d be triple jumping. The only pitcher Phils have had that I would have considered bringing up to majors in a dire emergency was Hamels. Hamels had spot on control even in the minors for the most part, but even he had stretches where his command deserted him. May has too great a chance to be knocked out in the first inning after 4 walks and 5 hits, something like that. Not saying that would definitely happen, but given his command issues, that has a realistic chance to happen. More likely, he would give up 4-5 runs in 4-5 IP, with 4-5 Ks. The mercs can do better than that.

  6. How about Carpenter? He has the major league experience……………….just saying.

  7. Pardon this off-topiv Re: pitchers, but….

    Couldn’t help but pointing something out in our system that bears notice. It could be a minor miracle or a misprint.

    At the Ven Sumr Lg a guy pl;aying 3rd base for the Phils team, Willians Astudillo has this hitting line:

    120 ABs 41 H .342 BA .373 OBA 4 BB and ONLY 1 (ONE) STRIKEOUT!

    One (1) K in 120 ABs & 4 BB.!!! Only 1 K per 124 plate appearances!

    Wow!! Can’t believe ANYBODY could make that kind of contact with his bat !!

    1. Well, look at Astudillo’s numbers from last season, they are very similar, and he didn’t get an invite to the States , even. Two other players with similar BB/K ratios were released. Apparently that sort of thing is not the be all and end all, that many believe it is.

        1. Well, if he will be 20 this season, he would be 19 now,or 18 last season, so he would have been all right to come this season age-wise. They brought some 19 y.o.’s to the States this season. A 15 y.o. is too young for signing, a 16 y.o. can sign, but can not begin play until the year they turn 17. Birth date has alot to do with alot in Latin America. Starting a player at 16 or 17 maybe, and then the instruction in the complexes can at least try to bring them to the level of a U;S. HS player or above. The Venezuelans having organized ball at younger ages should be better known and scouted than Dominicans.

  8. about triple jumping…i think the only time i ever remember that for a starter was Ezequiel Astacio. I think Zagurski did it in 2007 as a reliever

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