46 thoughts on “Box Score Recap, 24 June 2011

  1. Good to see Singleton find his stroke. I just noticed that ex Phillie Anthony Gose has 32 SB in AA.

  2. Not a good night on the Farm. I think they were 1-5. Hyatt pitched well with no support. Singleton had three hits. Some of the guys who have spent times in the minors this season have done a good job with the Phils. Stutes is now 3-0 with a 2 something ERA. Worley has pitched well and is the #4 starter with Blanton and Oswalt out. Herndon has pitched like 14 innings w/o giving up an earned run. Dom Brown is starting in right field and had a real good game last night. Perez and Mathieson have each pitched a couple games but nothing I can take away. Looks like they could both be up for the next month.

    1. I’m wondering how Mathieson will be used? Long man? Mop-up boy? or 7th inning guy? With Madsen out for a few days, it could get interesting.

      1. It seems like Charlie is content on using him as a early man/long man. Last night, when the pitchers spot was coming up in the bottom of the 5th, they had Mathieson warming up. It turns out they let Worley bat, and then when it came time for the 7th they brought in Herndon. So right now, I think Charlie likes Herndon more than Mathieson. With the way this rotation is pitching, I don’t expect him to get many innings.

  3. Hyatt is going to need to get traded to a club with a huge park. Seems like he gives up a homer every other night out. Love the stikeouts and have been on the band wagon from the start, but he has no shot in Philly unless he can cut down on the homers.

  4. I would hate to bat against Perez . He doesn’t seem to have any idea where the pitch is going.
    Another nice “spot start” by Worley. I think they will stop their stupid mind games on the guy now.
    I have never been a Herndon fan but he has also done well.
    Note the Howard-Worley play was incredible.
    With Madsen hurting isn’t time to take a Swim

  5. Spot start? Mind games? Seriously? Worley had a decent game but ran a lot of 3 ball counts against one of thw worst hitting teams in the bigs. Let’s not read into it any more than that. He’s had a decent 2 starts, but he’s not exactly going against the World Beaters of MLB…and Madson’s not going on the DL…not yet anyway…thought they said he’s not available for 3-4 days…not really enough time to bring up anyone.

    1. Agree with this. Worley got the job done, but struggled to do so against a truly anemic MLB offense. Not exactly confidence-inspiring. Also agree there were no “mind games”. Worley got pulled out of the rotation when Blanton came back (understandable), then wasn’t ready to go from the BP to the rotation when Blanton went down again. Hence the brief stint to AAA to get stretched out for the rotation. No mind games.

      Other thoughts:
      – DeFratus off to a rough start at LHV. Hopefully he gets staightened out quickly.
      – Matheison will be used in Kendrick’s role; i.e., long relief.

      1. He gave up 1 hit. He may not have had command, but he gave up 1 hit. That isn’t exactly struggling.

        1. It’s Oakland… if he pitches like that against Boston… he doesn’t make it past the third inning.

          1. I have to agree here, Boston is notorious for taking walks and setting up for big innings. If Worley starts nibbling around, he’ll get himself into trouble fast.

  6. 1. OF – Domonic Brown (Phillies) – (.216) 2 for 2 with 2 BB
    3. OF – Jon Singleton (Clearwater)- (.278) –3 for 5 with a K
    6. C – Sebastian Valle (Clearwater) – (.353) – 3 for 4
    8. RHP – Vance Worley (Phillies) – (2-1, 2.83) – 6 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 4 BB and 4 K’s
    10. RHP – Justin De Fratus (Lehigh Valley) – (0-0, 10.38) – 1 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB and a K
    11. RHP – Julio Rodriquez (Clearwater)- (8-5, 3.33) – 6 IP, 5 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 5 BB and 6 K’s (loss)
    12. 2B – Cesar Hernandez (Clearwater) – (.255) – 0 for 4 with 2 K’s
    15. OF – Aaron Altherr (Williamsport) – (.320) – 0 for 4 with a K
    18. OF – Jiwan James (Clearwater) – (.264) – 1 for 3 with a run and BB
    24. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (Reading) – (.296) – 0 for 3 with a BB and K
    25. RHP – Austin Hyatt (Reading) – (6-5, 4.38) – 7 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 0 BB and 8 K’s (loss)
    28. OF – Kelly Dugan (Williamsport) –(.258) – 1 for 4 with a run, BB and K


    1B – Cody Overbeck (Lehigh Valley) – (.154) 0 for 4 with 3 K’s
    3B – Carlos Rivero (Reading) – (.252) – 1 for 4
    3B – Maikel Franco (Williamsport) – (.296) – 1 for 3 with an RBI (6) and BB
    3B – Harold Martinez (Williamsport) – (.263) – 0 for 4 with 2 K’s
    2B/DH – Cody Asche (Williamsport) – (.231) 1 for 3 with a 2B (2), run, RBI (1) and BB
    SS – Freddy Galvis (Redding) – (.276) –1 for 4 with a SB (9)
    SS – Jair Morelos (VSL) – (.321) – 0 for 4
    OF – John Mayberry (Lehigh Valley) – (.274) – 2 for 4
    OF – Derrick Mitchell (Redding)- (.286) – 2 for 3 with an RBI (47) and a K
    OF – Joe Savery (Redding) –(.167) – 0 for 4 with 2 K’s
    OF – Kyrell Hudson (Williamsport) – (.250) – 0 for 5 with 2 K’s
    OF – Brian Pointer (GCL) – (.278) – 1 for 4 with a 2B (4) and a K

    1. Also for Asche his third error. It’s good to see him beginning to hit, since that is his best thing. But he’s definbitely a work in progress at 2B.

  7. GCL- Alejandro Vilalobos, 2B and Carlos Valenzuela, 3B hitting well so far. New signee Trey Ford who has played SS lately, not so much. Drew Hillman assigned to GCL from Williamsport, so now more competition in IF/OF.
    WPT- website article mentioned nice run by Dugan to score from first on double by Asche. Looks like they stick with the Franco/ H. Martinez alternation at 3B/DH for now, also it seems the rotation they have settled into is one game- Altherr, Hudson, Dugan in OF with Patrick Murray at 1B, and the next game Alherr, Hudson, Witer Jimenez in OF and Dugan at 1B. Not a bad plan.
    See that Gauntlett Eldemire has been placed on the 60 day Disabled List already, so might be out for season or at least a while. Also on 60 day DL: Miguel Nunez, Siulman LeBron, Pedro Lora, and Jake Smith. (BA)
    LKW- now down to 4 OFs- Collier, M. Alvarez, Hewitt, and Santana. Also 6 IF and 2 C, just like the blueprint calls for. Michael Dabbs was moved up to Clearwater, and hopefully he stays up, as he’s a good 4th OF at the minor league level, and they can correct the situation with some of their oft-injured guys.
    Reliever Juan Sosa promoted all the way to AAA. Just a fill-in for temporary move, Maybe not.Looks like DeFratus and/or Aumont soon might fit into that category also, unless corrected. Walrond also from AA to AAA.

    1. did not know they had a 60 day DL for the minors? Where did you see that? Does not shock me with Eldemire…Oh well. Saw Payton got called up to Lakewood

    2. Phillies definitely stashing some talent in the low minors. Eldemire is going to be VERY far behind. College player will now lose two seasons. Unfortunate for a ‘toolsy’ guy.
      Nunez (youth) and Smith (converted to pitcher) are likely not ready to face game hitters so are being stashed to work on their mechanics.

      1. What the hell could he teach? No one follows someone who CAN’T.

        1. Shows how much you know… Bastardo credits him as being his mentor, and Contreras has said that he’s taught him how to pitch out of the bullpen. Jamie Moyer was a mentor to Cole Hamels… I’d say Cole’s just a bit better than Jamie…

          1. I don’t mean to attack you, but I think some of the fans on this site aren’t giving some of the players their respect because they want other guys to succeed, so hopefully, you don’t take it that way.

            To anyone who wants Baez released… you lose a lot of depth that way. He struggled his last time out but, he didn’t pitch for a while, so he was rusty… it was a bad performance, but this guy’s job is to come in when the Phillies are already losing big… or they’re desperate for an arm. With the top 3 in this rotation, they don’t need a lot of shut down guys… and they have the final 9 outs of the game with Bastardo/Stutes/Madson. It’s best to let Schwimmer pitch in AAA where he’ll get consistent work and refine his stuff.

            1. Regarding guys who teach who can’t…that is most of your managers/coaches in baseball. Alot of your super stars who played the game find it hard to teach it because it comes naturally. Mike Schmidt was a perfect example while Charlies Manuel who is said to be a great hitting coach was spending most of his times in the minors and in Japan. I also heard Baez has helped some of the younger guys in tghe pen.

            2. I respectfully disagree. I don’t hate Baez and I agree his role is more mop up than anything, and that he has been a good mentor and coach to some other pitchers. Despite that, the reality is that his ineffectiveness is going to lead to more mileage on Stutes and Bastardo, who need to be preserved a bit for October. If a more competent pitcher were brought up and he was successful, this person, like Herndon, could take on an expanded role and lessen the toll on the young relievers that may end up being overused.

    1. As I have mentioned before, not everybody in the bullpen can be “lights out”. And Bastardo and Stutes got their shot because of injuries and ineffectiveness. If Shwimer comes up, what’s his role going to be? 6th inning guy? His numbers may be good but Manuel hasn’t seen him in big league situations, and Manuel won’t put him into high pressure situations for a rookie. If baez gets cut, who’s the mop up guy? If it’s Schwimer, what’s the point in that? And don’t forget that when Contreras and Lidge comes back, when Blanton comes back and pushes Kendrick into the bullpen, Schwimer will be headed back to Lehigh ASAP, so it’s not like he’ll be up long anyways. And he’s not even on the 40 man roster. Let him stay in AAA and get his work. He can fight for a bullpen spot in 2012.

  8. Five game lead. Some bums in the pen. Perfect time to see what the young guys can do. It’s worked so far. Bring up Schwimer. He’s done it at every level, particularly AAA.

  9. The real reward of watching minor league ball is measuring player development from the beginning of the season to now, the mid point of the minor league season. Perhaps nothing more impressive has taken place in the system this season along these lines than the June numbers being put up by Freddy Galvis, Derrick Mitchell and Tuffy Gosewisch at AA compared to early in the season. Galvis is hitting .381 (.933 OPS) in his last ten games. In Thursday nights game in his first time up Galvis turned on a high fastball and lined a single to right. Then he hit a long drive into the gap to right center for a double. He added a walk and his fly ball at bat out to left included a line drive of home run distance just foul down the right field line. Mitchell is hitting .345 for June and is second in the EL in RBIs for the season. In Thursday’s game he started out by squaring up a slider for a line drive double to the gap in left center and later he would hit a sky scraping triple he got up into a slight breeze which hit off of the top of the wall in left. But his best at bat of the night was with two out and an infield shift on which had the second baseman on the shortstop side of second base. Mitchell shot the ball to the right side through where the second baseman normally would have been playing driving in the tying run and setting up Gosewisch’s grand slam ( .292/846 OPS in June). Paraphrasing one of them who told me before the game after getting congratulations on a strong first half of the season “but I need to keep it up”.

    1. Rickey, what’s your view of Galvis’ defense this season?

      Also, with Mitchell (and I’ve enjoyed following him and your reports, while at the same criticizing other people who IMO have gone a little overboard on him), do you see any signs of future improvement in his plate discipline/contact abilities? Looking strictly at the numbers, it appears that those remain his Achilles heals (BB rate especially) even during his recent hot streak (though I’m not doubting that he has improved greatly in other respects). Is he aware of the issues and working in them?

  10. Third-round Phillies draft pick Adam Morgan is in Williamsport but has yet to activated on the team’s roster according to pre-game notes handed out by the Crosscutters. I have yet to see a reporting of Morgan’s signing with the Phillies. But he may be a candidate for a rotation spot after Cody Fick’s move to the bullpen and Greg Herbst’s retirement. Colin Kleven starts in Fick’s spot in the rotation tonight, and Austin Wright will start Sunday for the Cutters in Herbst’s spot.

    1. To update, Morgan will be joining the Crosscutters but won’t be pitching right away. Morandini said he’ll need a few side sessions to get back into shape, but should join the rotation in about 10 days or so. My guess is he’ll step into Colin Kleven’s spot.

    2. Thanks for updates. Curious on Kleven. IF I remember correctly (unlikely), a comment was made that he looked impressive in extend spring. Therefore, I expected him to be one of the main starters for either WPT or GCL.

    3. Good signing. I think this kid has a lot of potential if he can harness his stuff (he doesn’t have great stuff, but most lefty’s don’t.)

  11. anyone else surprised they haven’t signed larry greene yet? i thought he’d be under contract by now.

  12. Anyone watching this 30 for 30 on Jordan? Back in the day I was under the impression that he “failed,” but knowing what I do now about baseball, I’m amazed at what he did.

    1. Finally !!! Someone who sees the truth through the BS. If you took a 20 year old out of college ball and jumped him to AA and got the same results as Jordon you would of been happy.

  13. Glad to see D Brown wants to be in Philly with his great hustle on those two ground balls. Need to sit him the next few days to send a message. Very disappointing to see someone with so much talent give such a weak effort. Terrible.

    1. I couldn’t believe he didn’t bust it down the line the second time… I would have benched him right then and there.

      1. Why he would hardly be the first to do it this year. There is no hunger on this team. They played poor defense at times with no hustle. Seems like everyone is waiting for the big pitchers to win the game for them. EVERYONE is too comfortable.

  14. He was probably going to sit anyway with Outman pitching but after tonight Francisco should get the start. Beckett is supposed to pitch Tuesday for Boston. We will see if he plays then.

  15. Setting aside Brown’s lack of hustle, I’d like to focus on his current slump. I used to be a fan of a BABIP theory. I thought that he was hitting a lot of balls hard and getting good swings, but he wasn’t finding open space. He was having bad luck, and just needed to hang in there until his fortunes changed. And to an extent, I still believe this. For instance today, Brown hit three solid ground balls, but all to 2B. He seems to keep doing this. More of these hard ground balls should be resulting in hits, and I think eventually they will. One night he hit the ball hard up the middle, but it hit off the pitcher and he was able to make a play on it. So the element of bad luck is there. But I also think that ground balls are the 2nd best way to get hits. I read that about 23% of ground balls are hits. This is better than fly balls, but it is vastly inferior to line drives, about 70% of which become hits. Line drives are a hitter’s bread and butter. The infield is crowded. There are six players there and it’s smaller than the outfield, where there are only three players. So line drives are what you need to get hits. And Brown has not been getting line drives. This is the other part of his slump. I think the reason he has not been getting line drives is because he is not comfortable yet with a major league fastball. Sure, there are guys with big fastballs in the minor leagues. But they don’t have the refined secondary stuff of a major league pitcher. Having to be aware of secondary stuff makes it harder to get comfortable with a fastball. And I think this is where Brown is. His high rate of ground balls shows that he is hitting the top of the ball. This means that the ball is traveling deep into his swing. He needs to get the bat through the zone more quickly in order to get around on the ball a little better. His ground balls are often hard, so he’s very close to this state. Hopefully, the light goes on for him soon. I think it will.

    1. I think you are right that luck is only part of it – but even the non-luck component will almost certainly get better. Even aside from the fact that Brown was a line drive/high BABIP hitter in the minors, it takes almost as long – over 2 years of full time play – for line drive tendencies to normalize.

      Obviously any player can fail – Brown could lose his confidence, the team could give up on him, he could start pressing – but if Brown keeps up is fine BB/contact ratios, and keeps hitting with decent power, he is not going to fail by BABIPing .200. No one fails for that reason. No player who has power, BB skills and contact skills as good as those displayed by Brown fails, unless the team gives up prematurely on them.

      I’m not worried by Brown, even a little bit.

    2. Nice analysis of where Brown is as a hitter. It makes sense that this is the main challenge of his current adjustment period. I’m sure there’s more involved, but being just a little tentative in protecting against possible breaking pitches can take just a hair out of the explosiveness of his swings on FBs. Thus, more grounders than he should be hitting.

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