57 thoughts on “Box Score Recap, 16 June 2011

  1. It seems that Hewitt has no idea of the strike zone given his BB/K ratio. It’s good to see him have some success, but this is a red flag. Of course, when it comes to the Phillies I am ever the optimist. Improvements could be made.

    1. The boxscore above says he did not strikeout once. A recent Double Header he did not strike out once, and other times through the season noted the same. 3 for 3 with 2 steals. That makes 18 steals with 7 HR’s for the season. Now playing CF. I guess people continue to push for trying for walks when they could get hits. Maybe they should deliberately foul off pitches they can get hits on in hopes of more balls from the pitcher.

      1. Hewitt is no prospect. He has a 5% chance of playing in the majors, maybe 1% of getting more than 300 PA, and no chance of ever playing for the Phillies.

        1. For perspective, A.Hewitt is a VASTLY inferior prospect than G.Golson or R.Taylor were at the same point in their careers.

          And I vote Marfis for GM.

  2. 1. OF – Domonic Brown (Phillies) – (.229) 1 for 4 with a run and K
    3. OF – Jon Singleton (Clearwater)- (.247) –0 for 3 with a run and BB
    12. 2B – Cesar Hernandez (Clearwater) – (.249) 2 for 4 with a K
    13. OF – Domingo Santana (Lakewood) – (.266) 0 for 3 with 3 K’s
    17. C – Cameron Rupp (Lakewood) – (.216) – 0 for 3 with a K
    18. OF – Jiwan James (Clearwater) – (.261) – 2 for 4 with a SB (12)
    24. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (Reading) – (.304) – 1 for 4 with an RBI (42)
    26. OF – Leandro Castro (Clearwater) – (.277) – 1 for 3

    Others:

    1B – Cody Overbeck (Lehigh Valley) – (.000) 0 for 4 with a run and a K
    3B – Carlos Rivero (Reading) – (.264) – 1 for 5 with a HR (7), RBI (26) and 2 K’s
    3B – Geancarlo Mendez (Lakewood) – (.268) 1 for 3 with a 3B (3), run and BB
    3B – Travis Mattair (Lakewood) – (.154) – 0 for 2 with an RBI (2) and K
    SS – Freddy Galvis (Redding) – (.266) –3 for 5 with a HR (7), RBI (24) and 2 runs
    OF – John Mayberry (Lehigh Valley) – (.250) – 0 for 5 with an RBI (6) and a K
    OF – Derrick Mitchell (Redding)- (.279) – 2 for 5
    OF – Steve Susdorf (Redding) – (322) – 2 for 4 with a HR (5), 2B (7), RBI (20), 2 runs and BB
    OF – Anthony Hewitt (Lakewood) – (.252) – 3 for 3 with an RBI (29) and 2 SB (18)
    LHP – Mike Zagurski (Lehigh Valley) – (2-0, 2.66, 10 SV) – 1 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, BB and a K
    RHP – B.J. Rosenberg (Reading) – (2-1, 3.14) – 6 IP, 6 H, 7 R, 7 ER, 3 BB and 6 K’s

    1. Galvis, Mitchell, and Susdorf do not play for Redding, they play for Reading just like Rizzotti and Rosenberg. It’s been that way for awhile now.

      1. I am fine with him mistyping Reading if he continues to make this list every day. You should be too.

  3. Clean sweep for the Phillies farm teams… all losses. Reading had 17 hits and lost? It’s going to be hard to tell the players without a scorecard. Everybody’s moving around. I was mentioning Rosy’s success and he gives up 5 runs in the 1st inning. I was asking whether Hewitt was wasting a roster spot for some othyer prospect and he goes 3 – 3. It’s all about me. If I pan a prospect, he goes on a tear (usually short lived). If I give the guy a shout out, he suddenly can’t hit a beachball or throw a strike. Maybe I should start an I hate every prospect tirade and suddenly we’ll have 50 guys who can play in big leagues tomorrow.

  4. Crank up the Galvis bandwagon … he’s been doing this for half a season now.

    1. I am hard pressed to think of a Phillies prospect who has improved his stock more this year than Freddy Galvis. IMO, he is now in, or hovering closely near, our top ten prospects. A slick fielding, young shorstop who flashes power has a lot of inherent value. If he can find a way to draw walks on a regular basis (still not out of the realm of possibility), now you’re really talking about a hot player.

      This is no longer the skinny kid who fielded like a whiz but couldn’t hit his way out of a paper bag. It’s a pretty dramatic development.

      1. I remember last season after the Oswalt trade, RAJ made a comment to the effect of “we feel confident in the depth at [shortstop] in our position” when asked about giving up Villar. One wonders if they’d been expecting just this kind of step forward by Galvis (though their draft strategy seems to belie Amaro’s comments just a bit).

        1. Yeah, that draft strategy, Let’s see If the drafted SS’s all sign right away (an extreme longshot) and follow a normal route of advancement (usually optimistic on that) they go GCL, Williamsport, Lo-A, Hi-A, AA. That comes ot 4 years to get where Galvis is now, even. Not everyone does what they should, so maybe they have some MLB prospects in 4 years. They should have more than one prospect at every position. They should bring some in every year, and don’t think they have done a bad job to date in that.

        2. Yeah, but you can’t go wrong drafting shortstops, and you really can’t have enough of them. I wouldn’t mind if the only position players that they draft are high school shortstops (and catchers). If they hit and can field the position, you hit the gold mine. If they can hit but are deficient defensively, they can still probably hold down 2nd or 3rd depending on their athletic profile. And if they can’t hit, at least you tried.

  5. Gillies has been out for four games now. Does anyone know why? Anyone officially worried yet?

      1. I heard a minor foot injury. Don’t remember where and from whom. It is crazy how hard it is to find out about injuries and MPH of minor league players! Also, Collier apparently left one of Wednesday’s games early and did not play yesterday either.

        1. Well if that is all it is with Gillies, then that is a relief!!! I want to see that kid patrolling the outfield in CBP real soon.

        2. Yeah , it’s not like they have their own websites with a usual gamestory everyday, where they could put injury notes and items of interest.

          1. If you go to the Q&A site PP handled this question–though the foot injury report seemed to be secondhand.

  6. As the great hair band of the 80’s once said “give me somethin to believe in” Freddy! I have tickets to 2 of the 4 games in Trenton in July. What are the odds he is still with them? Not to much left on that squad to be excited about in the form of true prospects.

    1. I think the odds are pretty high he’s still in AA in July. He’s still one of the youngest players in the EL, so it is not urgent he get moved along quickly. Also, while his hitting has shown vast improvement, he is still not exaclty tearing the cover off the ball.

      1. I agree Boston Phan, considering his age and how long it took him to adjust to AA pitching, I think they’ll let him stay there to see if he can build on some succuss and have some good confidence going into next year.

      2. Also agreed with Boston Phan. There is zero reason to rush Galvis. Let him prove that his progression is real and lasting and leave him at Reading. If he keeps this up the rest of the year, he would definitely be in my Top 10 list. I think Galvis so far is the most impressive player in the farm system this year. Maybe not the best player in the system, maybe not the highest ceiling, but the best performance and advancement in a season relative to expectations entering the year. This guy was written off by almost everybody (including me) as ever having a chance to hit the way he has this season.

        Honorable mention goes to Sebastian Valle, Jon Pettibone, Cody Overbeck, and Zach Collier.

  7. I totally agree on the Galvis points. He has been impressive to me, as I figured he would be a utility guy in the majors at best. He is starting to look like a real SS prospect. No need to rush him to AAA as he is young for AA. Let him have some success.

  8. We would not want to impede the progress and development of Brian Bocock by promoting Frederick Galvis to AAA. I think highly of Bocock.

  9. If you’re not excited about Freddy Galvis right now, then you are just a hater. I know I’m the guy that always catches flak on here for speaking the truth about Rizzotti and Mathieson, but their Age/Level?position profile is way different than Galvis’s.

    Before I even I get to my point, let me preface this by saying, no, I am not saying Galvis is or will ever be Jimmy Rollins. And yes, I realize, its half a seasons worth of data, so sample size concerns are in play here. And it also bears mentioning that this is Galvis’s second go-around in Reading, even though he is still very young for AA.

    I was never a Galvis believer, obviously because of his weak bat (by just about any measure) and offensive game in general. For the sake of argument, I am going to double all of Galvis’s current offensive numbers for this year (since we are a little less than halfway through the season) and compare them to Rollins numbers at AA. Again, let me point out that Galvis is 21 and is in his 2nd year in the Eastern League, while Rollins was 20 and in his 1st year in the Eastern League:

    Galvis (projected): .266/.316/.413/.729 OPS, 84 R, 20 2B, 6 3B, 14 HR, 48 RBI, 16 SB, 6.3 BB%, 15 K%, .147 ISO
    Rollins (actual): .273/.336/.404/.740 OPS, 81 R, 21 2B, 8 3B, 11 HR, 56 RBI, 24 SB, 8.5 BB%, 7.9 K%, .131 ISO

    Again, I am not making any claim like Galvis is the next Jimmy Rollins or anything like that, but its hard not to become excited about the year he is having. Galvis is actually outslugging Rollins in his AA year, although the plate discipline is behind what Rollins was doing at that age. And obviously Galvis will most likely never match the numbers Rollins puts up in the running game.

    Finally, I never discussed either players fielding at all, and of course thats a huge component of their games as shortstops. We have all heard great things about Galvis’s defense, but, sight unseen, I still think its a stretch to say he will ever be as good, and as consistent, a fielder as Rollins, until I actually see Galvis prove it in the majors.

    1. I’ve been his biggest booster lately, after being a skeptic, so I of course agree.

      I’d add one thing – as a numbers guy, I am usually a skeptic when it comes to “intangibles.” But at the same time, it’s clear (usually in retrospect) that some prospects have more of an ability to learn & grow than others. Whether that’s a matter of intelligence, desire, or something else I have no idea. But I’m really getting a sense – from the numbers and from the more subjective things I am hearing – that Galvis may be the kind of prospect that can build on his current success & become even better. If I am right, he’s going to be a regular for somebody at some point. Maybe quite a good one.

      1. Galvis is have a breakout offensive season compared with his history but lets not lose our heads over his improvement. He has moved from totally inadequate to passable offensively for a SS but he still has a way to go to become quite a good regular starter.

        1. No one is losing their heads here.

          Just saying, that with his current numbers, and IF (a big IF) he can continue to improve and refine his game, than he is a lot closer to being a regular SS candidate in the major leagues than you are giving him credit for. He has the 4th highest OPS among shortstops in the Eastern League, and the three guys ahead of him are 23, 24, and 25, while Galvis is only 21.

          1. Doesn’t really matter where he ranks in the Eastern League since we aren’t talking about his qualifications for playing in that league. the question is his prospect status. I’m guessing the 23, 24, 25 year-olds aren’t highly ranked prospects either.

            My point on Galvis isn’t that he’s not a prospect or that his improvement isn’t encouraging but rather that where he’s at now still is marginal prospect range. You made the comparison to Rollins but there are 2 other guys who also posted similar numbers at AA as 21/22 year olds, Adam Everett and Khalil Greene.

            Both of those guys have had long major league careers but nether has been considered a league average offensive players and haven’t been able to retain regular starting roles.

            1. Well, FWIW, Everett was a 2+ Win (9.4 WAR in that span) player for 4 straight years (2003 – 2006) so that would be a pretty nice upside for Galvis.

            2. NEPP,

              Baseball Reference has his war over those 4 years as 8.7 but even in that span, he was over 2 just once (3.8 in 2006). The rest of his career he was basically a replacement level player. And if you believe in the breakout between owar and dwar he was actually a -0.2 offensively that season. His value was and always has been his defense.

              Rollins was a 2 war last year (1.5 OWAR) and everyone was complaining that his offense wasn’t good enough!!

            3. First of all, no one is saying Galvis is a sure thing or the next Rollins. But he is more than a “marginal prospect.” That’s what he was BEFORE this season. I can’t read your mind, but I suspect that you are making 3 small errors that add up to significantly underestimating his chances:

              (1) The Rollins comparison: Rollins is the best SS in Phillies history. As much as the Phillies would like to replace him with someone as good, they most likely won’t be able to. No team can have all stars at every position. Even a contender will have some positions with average or even a little below average regulars. The Phillies are quite happy with Ruiz, yet he isn’t an all star. 9.4 WAR over his career so far, averaging about 2 per year.

              (2) Upside – we have a pretty small sample size in terms of comps. Given his performance this year, and his age/level, IMO his hitting upside is higher than Everett’s. No guarantee he will be even that good, but then that’s the nature of prospects. I love Singleton, and am not worried so much about his performance this season, but he is no sure thing by any means. Yet he is likely the team’s best prospect. (Side note – for Everett, no reason necessarily to prefer baseball-reference.com WAR to Fangraphs WAR – and in this case, I think Fangraphs is better, as it better reflects his acknowledged defensive excellence.)

              (3) Offensive context – runs are down. Even an Everett type is going to have more value in the current run environment than the real Everett did, as his prime was in a high run era. You still need to get SOME offensive value from your regular SS – that’s why I was a skeptic before this year – but if he can hit .260/.330/.370, and if his defense is as good as advertised, he will be a 3 WAR per year player in the current offensive context. And I think his upside is a little higher than that.

              As a side note which fits into points 1 and 2 to some extent, most teams don’t have a SS who is league average offensively. A good fielding SS does not have to have league average hitting skills to be a valuable regular. Heck, Rollins over his career is a league average offensive player. If Galvis can be a league average offensive player (admittedly unlikely at this point) and if his defense is as good as advertised, he will be a star.

            4. And people who weren’t happy with Rollins at SS last year (when healthy, of course) simply aren’t knowledgeable fans. So that fact that not very knowledgeable people weren’t happy with Rollins’ hitting last year doesn’t sway me with regard to my opinion of Galvis’ potential.

            5. No, Larry I’m not making the Rollins comparison, other are. As for his offensive comparison with Adam Everettt you are certainly welcome to your opinion that Galvis will be better offensive but you opinion doesn’t constitute a mistake on my part that I disagree with that opinion.

              And as for your 3rd point, I would guess that about 15 of the 30 teams have a SS better than league average at the position and 15 teams have a SS below league average thus the term “league average”. Your correct that the Phillies don’t need a star at each position but they do need most of their players to be above the average player or they will be a league average team…

            6. First of all, the mistake (yes, mistake in this case) that you are making NOW is confusing “league average hitter” for all players and “league average hitter” for a SS. It’s likely true (almost by definition) that half the teams (or even slightly more) have a SS who is average or above as a hitter compared to shortstops only. But that is a far lower bar. This year, average ML SS: .262/.317/.375 . I think Galvis is likely (not certain) to meet or exceed that low standard.

              As for ceiling – you don’t like mistake? Fine. My opinion is that a player hitting as well as Galvis as a 21 YO in AA has a higher ceiling than a guy whose lifetime numbers are .242/.294/.346. I suspect (but obviously do not know) that the most knowledgeable talent evaluators around here would agree with me. Which still isn’t a guarantee. But prospects generally don’t come with guarantees

              As for the Rollins comp, fine. Except you did imply that hitting performance at the level of Rollins 2010 is inadequate. That is an entirely unreasonable expectation.

            7. And not to beat a dead horse, but you are still ignoring the offensive context issue. In today’s run environment, an in his prime Everett would look a heck of a lot better, almost certainly an overall better than average SS.

            8. Sorry Larry but a misreading of my comments on your part doesn’t constitute a mistake on my part. My comments regarding league average certainly is in context of being league average for his position.

              And I certainly didn’t imply anything about Rollins production being subpar but I’ll have no doubt that in your opinion, the most knowlegable fans, talent evaluators, etc. would certainly be in agreement with you…

  10. Opening Day Lineup 2015:

    1. Gillies CF
    2. C Hernandez 2B
    3. D Brown RF
    4. Howard 1B
    5. Valle C
    6. Sanatan LF
    7. Rivero 3B
    8. Galvis SS
    9. Moyer P

    1. Ha, ha! Or are you referring to the Twins’ Dillon Moyer, Jamie’s 19-YO boy. He’s a SS at the moment, but he has some of that Jamie DNA.

      1. Scratch the Twins’ reference. He was drafted by them in 2010 but went to UC Irvine instead.

    2. you are kidding? gillies gone, hernandez gone, rivero gone, galvis more than gone. howard, brown, and valle. only remainers.

    1. but it has been announced that he was officially called up, so you need to await no longer!

  11. Friday’s lines…

    13. OF – Domingo Santana (Lakewood) – (.270) 2 for 4 with a K
    14. RHP – JC Ramirez (Reading) – (5-4, 4.31) – 6 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 4 BB and 5 K’s (loss)
    15. OF – Aaron Altherr (Williamsport) – (.750) – 3 for 4 with a 2B (1) and SB (1)
    17. C – Cameron Rupp (Lakewood) – (.219) – 1 for 3 with a 3B (1), BB and K
    21. RHP – Colby Shreve (Lakewood) – (3-3, 3.61) – 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB and 2 K’s
    23. RHP – Michael Schwimer (Lehigh Valley) – (3-0, 2.11, 1 SV) – 1 IP, 2 H, 3 R, 3 ER, BB and a K
    24. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (Reading) – (.300) – 0 for 3
    28. OF – Kelly Dugan (Williamsport) –(.200) – 1 for 5 with a run, RBI (1) and SB (1)

    Others:

    1B – Cody Overbeck (Lehigh Valley) – (.125) 1 for 4 with a 2B (1)
    3B – Carlos Rivero (Reading) – (.261) – 0 for 3
    3B – Travis Mattair (Lakewood) – (.133) – 0 for 4 with 3 K’s
    3B – Maikel Franco (Williamsport) – (.750) – 2 for 4 with a HR (1) and 3 RBI (3)
    SS – Freddy Galvis (Redding) – (.266) – 1 for 4 with a CS (7)
    OF – John Mayberry (Lehigh Valley) – (.229) – 0 for 4 with a K
    OF – Derrick Mitchell (Redding)- (.275) – 0 for 3 with a K
    OF – Steve Susdorf (Redding) – (323) – 1 for 3 with a K
    OF – Joe Savery (Redding) –(.000) – 0 for 3 with 2 K’s
    OF – Zach Collier (Lakewood) – (.266) – 1 for 5
    OF – Anthony Hewitt (Lakewood) – (.248) – 0 for 4
    OF – Kyrell Hudson (Williamsport) – (.400) – 2 for 5 with a 2B (1), run, RBI (1) and SB (1)
    RHP – Drew Carpenter (Lehigh valley) – (1-0, 1.73) – 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB and 2 K’s
    RHP – David Buchanan (Lakewood) – (8-4, 3.21) – 5 IP, 11 H, 9 R, 5 ER, 1 BB and 3 K’s (loss)
    RHP – Leonel Bastidas (Williamsport) – 1-0, 0.00) – 6 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 3 BB and 3 K’s (win)

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