45 thoughts on “Box Score Recap, 26 May 2011

  1. sorry guys, i’m gonna re-post…mostly because I need some input on Collier

    unlike Hewitt, who we’ve seen struggle over the years, injuries have kept us from seeing any of zach, another raw but gifted player. considering his pedigree as a 1st round pick, age(still only 20), his current stats ( 0.750+ OPS, 11 stl), and lack of experience, I’m surprised more people haven’t been talking about him. Theoretically, shouldn’t he be considered a better prospect than Jiwan James? Younger, better numbers, higher pedigree, similar athletic upside (small sample size, i know i know), but still?

  2. I highlighted him pre-season as someone who just missed my top 30, and I mainly kept him out because I wasn’t sure of his health. He’s still very young, and what he’s doing now is very impressive. He’s a surefire Top 30 guy if the season ended today, and I think there is still more to come from him this year.

    1. sounds about right. my goodness, the 2008 draft was already loaded, but if we get anything out of Collier/Hewitt? that’s unreal. a draft for the ages

      Collier, Hewitt, Gose (Oswalt), Knapp (Lee), Worely, Pettibone, Stutes, Cosart, May, JRod, Schwimmer PLUS debatable guys like Overbeck and Cisco

      1. Jerry Hamilton was one of the few that signed and didn’t make it.
        But Cisco came late. Btw any word on why Cisco is on the dl.

  3. The Lakewood team must be fun to watch. They have so many terrific atheletes. Hopefully, Collier can develop some power. I’ve heard it’s there. Thankfully, he’s healthy and let’s hope it stayes that way.

  4. This Rosenberg thing is interesting if nothing else. I can’t remember ever hearing of a team converting a guy who was a minor league reliever (and a college reliever to boot) to a starter in the high minors. It seems to be going well so far. Scouting/velo reports would no doubt be appreciated.

    1. Rosenberg was a starter in college until an injury. After rehab he returned as a closer in college.

    2. Lack of velocity should not be the problem, seen in HBG, always right around 95, more than an inning.

  5. Starting Rosey could be a way to get him innings to make up for his development time lost due to his injuries.

    He will probably be back in the pen by July if not before.

    His numbers–when he’s not been injured–have been befitting a reliever competing for a roster spot on a ML team in a little time. Which brings to mind just how the Phils have been drafting with their pen in mind as well as starters. Looks like it is already paying dividends at the ML level.

    So far, among the best minor lg prospects’ performances, Collier and Valle (tho w/o BBs), rate high. The awakening of Hewitt fits in. Singleton is a question.

    1. Maybe Rosie has starter in mind. If he is uber successful, then go with it. He can always be back. Right now I would think Schwim is the next up.

  6. I’m encouraged by Dom Brown’s first few games this year for the Phils – good plate discipline for a kid, has hit lots of balls hard (mostly caught unfortunately or just foul), and his defense and baserunning look a little better than the snapshot we got last year.

    1. No. Even with his strong performance over the past two months, upside is still more important for players in A+. LaMar was pretty clear in that article the other day that May, Colvin, and Cosart all have better stuff than Pettibone.

      That said, he is pitching great, much better than I had hoped, and I hope he keeps it up!

  7. 1. OF – Domonic Brown (Phillies) – (.167) 2 for 4 with a 2B (2), a run and a BB
    2. RHP – Brody Colvin (Clearwater)- (0-1, 4.96) – DNP
    3. OF – Jon Singleton (Clearwater)- (.250) –1 for 5 with a 2B (3), a run and a K
    4. RHP – Jared Cosart (Clearwater) – (5-3, 2.87) – DNP
    5. RHP – Trevor May (Clearwater)- (3-2, 4.13) –DNP
    6. C – Sebastian Valle (Clearwater) – (.308) – 2 for 4 with a BB
    7. LHP – Jesse Biddle (Lakewood) – (2-5, 4.78) – DNP
    8. RHP – Vance Worley (Phillies) – (2-0, 2.14) – DNP
    9. OF – Tyson Gillies (Reading) – DNP
    10. RHP – Justin De Fratus (Reading) – (2-0, 2.82, 4 SV) – DNP
    11. RHP – Julio Rodriquez (Clearwater)- (5-3, 2.50) – DNP
    12. 2B – Cesar Hernandez (Clearwater) – (.195) 1 for 4 with a run
    13. OF – Domingo Santana (Lakewood) – (.270) DNP
    14. RHP – JC Ramirez (Reading) – (5-3, 3.00) – DNP
    15. OF – Aaron Altherr (Lakewood) – (.198) – DNP
    16. RHP – Jon Pettibone (Clearwater) – (5-3, 1.75) – 7 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB and 6 K’s (win)
    17. C – Cameron Rupp (Lakewood) – (.217) – 0 for 4
    18. OF – Jiwan James (Clearwater) – (.246) – 2 for 5 with a SB (8)
    19. 2B – Harold Garcia (Reading) – Out for the season with a torn ACL
    20. RHP – Kevin Walter – Season hasn’t started
    21. RHP – Colby Shreve (Lakewood) – (2-3, 4.25) – DNP
    22. RHP – Phillippe Aumont (Reading) – (0-3, 3.13, 3 SV) – 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB and 2 K’s
    23. RHP – Michael Schwimer (Lehigh Valley) – (2-0, 2.10, 1 SV) – DNP
    24. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (Reading) – (.331) – 0 for 1 with a K
    25. RHP – Austin Hyatt (Reading) – (5-3, 4.31) – DNP
    26. OF – Leandro Castro (Clearwater) – (.277) – 2 for 5 with 2B (7), an RBI and a SB (7)
    27. OF – Miguel Alvarez (Lakewood) –(.272) – 1 for 4 with a 2B (5), a run, 2 RBI and a K
    28. OF – Kelly Dugan – Season hasn’t started
    29. RHP – Josh Zeid (Reading) – (2-3, 5.19) – DNP
    30. RHP – Percival Garner – Season hasn’t started


    1B – Cody Overbeck (Reading) – (.278) 1 for 2 with 2 BB’s
    3B – Carlos Rivero (Reading) – (.269) – 0 for 4 with a K
    3B – Geancarlo Mendez (Lakewood) – (.253) 0 for 3 with a BB
    SS – Freddy Galvis (Redding) – (.247) – 1 for 4 with a 2B (7) and a run
    OF – Derrick Mitchell (Redding)- (.246) – 0 for 4
    OF – Joe Savery (Clearwater) –(.331) – 1 for 3 with a 2B (8), an RBI and a BB
    OF – Anthony Hewitt (Lakewood) – (.261) – 0 for 4
    RHP – Justin Friend (Clearwater) – (0-0, 1.27, 16 SV) – DNP
    RHP – Tyler Cloyd (Clearwater) – (3-1, 2.82) – DNP
    RHP – David Buchanan (Lakewood) – (6-2, 2.21) – DNP
    RHP – Garett Claypool (Lakewood) – (1-2, 2.30) – DNP
    RHP – Lisalberto Bonilla (Lakewood) – (0-1, 1.47, 1 SV) –DNP

  8. A few thoughts…

    1. Brown is starting to settle in with the big club and it feels good to see. He stroked the ball hard in the 19-inning marathon a few times and followed it up by getting on base three times the next day. He’s going to be fine IMO.

    2. Singleton hit his third double of the year, while Freddy Galvis hit his seventh? Bizzaro world stuff.

    3. Valle is settling back in after the time off. Good.

    4. Pettibone with a 2-hit shutout thru 7 innings and only a single walk. Looks good now, but I can’t help but wonder if there’s some fool’s gold there. I’m optimistic.

    5. Jiwan with another productive day in the leadoff. He does something to help his team win every game.

    6. Aumont with a strong performance in the second of back-to-back nights. Good to see, especially after earning the loss the night before.

    1. I don’t know. I saw that 19 inning game and I’m pretty sure he’s one of those guys who just plays better in the minors. Just doesn’t have the head for it.

      Kinda like Madson and the 9th inning.

      1. That’s a pretty tough comment being that prior to Tuesday night Madson was 8 for 8 with a .47 ERA.

        1. Yes, he was being sarcastic. Read his other posts and you will understand how he looks at things.

  9. If Gillies can come back, be serious, and be what he was billed to be, then I don’t know what else you can expect from the farm system except upward movement.

    I forgot to save the day game. Any reports on MM at SS?

    1. I saw Martinez at short yesterday. He’s okay at best. He’s clearly not as good at the position as either Valdez or Rollins. He did not appear to be a hack, just a pretty average utility infielder.

      Martinez’s appeal is that he plays a lot of positions, is very fast, and, hopefully, he has some untapped offensive potential (he apparently was not a serious baseball player until his 20s, so he’s behind the learning curve and this might actually be possible). I’d certainly rather have him than, say, Eric Bruntlett (but I’d rather have Mussolini than Eric Bruntlett so that’s not saying much).

  10. WOW. did I miss out on rosenberg, never really paid attention to him. though he was just a college reliever we took, but except for a short 13 inning stink in reading.last year. He has really put up some nice number. I believe he is twenty five, but looks like a nice prospect for back of rotation or even relief pitcher at major league level. wonder how many have seen him pitch in person, and what demars thinks of his chances to help big club in future, maybe even in september

  11. Lakewood is back to .500. 4 of the 5 teams playing are above .500 with only the VSL a game under (through 9 games). The emphasis in the Moinors is not usually about winning but Amaro and Manual both said they like theit young players to be heavily exposed to winning. That was one of the reasons that Brown stayed with Philly last year even though he wasn’t playing.

    Clearwater has 30 wins on the season and are a mile out of 1st place because the Daytona Cubs are playing out of their minds. LHV as 28 wins but there aren’t any position players we’d call “prospects”. The bullpen is another story. A lot of guys who could help the big club this year and into the future. Reading has 24 wins but has lost 5 of their last 6. They could use a little push.

    Lakewood has 23 wins and has won 7 of their last 8. They’re streaky and I guess I’d expect that. Collier’s finally, as James said, knocked the rust off. Hewitt’s possibly learned to hit. He hasn’t learned any plate discipline but one thing at a time. The pitching has been pretty solid. 3 lefty starters including 19 year old Ervis Manzanilo. My favorite pitcher there in Lisaberto Bonilla, with his .65 WHIP, and he hasn’t had enough exposure to truly shine. Buchanon’s had 1 bad outing all year. Claypool’s been very good with 59 Ks in his 47 innings of work. He’s surprised me because I thought of him only as a relief candidate. I didn’t think he’d get starts.

    I think Lakewood’s problems to date have been in the #1 and #2 spots in the batting order. In year’s past, they had Gose , Harold Garcia, Jiwan James and Villar. They were getting on base and causing all kinds of problems for opposing pitchers. This year’s been another story. Until recently they weren’t getting production out the top of the order. Altherr and Duran were having trouble getting on base in the top of the order. It looks like they’ve settled on Perdomo and Collier at the top of the order. Perdomo’s BA has gone down but his OBP is going up. The guy takes a ton of BBs. Schoenberger and Duran slide into the top of the order when the other guys take a day off.

  12. Interesting that Lakewood’s 8 hits all came from 1-4 in the batting order. Murphy’s 11 dingers this season might be noteworthy if he wasn’t playing a level below last year.

    1. Conlin usually annoys me but I’m definitely liking May’s results so far this year. It may only be 50 innings so far but he’s cut the walks by 40% while maintaining a terrific strikeout rate. He’s always had a high ceiling but a low likelihood of reaching it so some solid improvement in control is a great sign.

  13. Pettibone and Collier were the story of the day for me yesterday. Pettibone looks unreal. By the way, for the guys comparing James and Collier, James is by far the smoothest outfielder we have but Collier has shown much more ability as a contact hitter. Collier is a potential line drive machine who can play both corner OF spots well.

  14. Collier (and all of Lakewood OF actually) were absolutely abysmal over the first month or so. Again being lulled by small sample sizes and daily reviews it was tough to wonder who might break out. Santana shows flashes before the DL. Hewitt had a good couple of weeks and now Collier looks great. Alvarez looking better. Altherr still pitiful, but only two months in so far. Exciting group as expected.

    Good to see Savery in the OF.
    Glad Castro still doing okay, he had a great start.
    Pettibone and Rodriquez will continue to have their fastballs questioned by scouts. Hopefully they can continue to have success at each advancing level.
    I never thought of James to be an elite prospect but if he can continue to advance with .250 avg, get to be an elite basestealer, and stay an excellent CF, he would be a great 4th OF. He may always have a poor approach at the plate but he might have some power as he sees more pitching. I still think of Chris Roberson as possible comparison but I really do not know enough about either to them to make that assessment.

  15. Last year we were getting positive reports out of XST about Singleton and he went on to have a great partial year at Lakewood. Are there any reports this year about Kelly Dugan?
    He is someone I’m interested in , especially if he can convert to third base.

  16. KG mentions Pettibone in his write-up today (which is free!):

    Jon Pettibone, RHP, Phillies (High-A Clearwater): 7 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 6 K

    Lost in one of the most loaded rotations in the minors, Pettibone has actually been Clearwater’s most consistent starter, with a 1.75 ERA after ten starts. His low-90s fastball is his best pitch, as beyond the velocity, his six-foot-five frame and delivery creates a good angle on the pitch, and unlike many tall, young arms, he throws the pitch for strikes. His breaking ball and changeup are still works in progress, but he’s generating some buzz and is more than just another arm at Clearwater.


    1. Also got mentioned in the BA chat today

      Anthony (NJ): Jon Pettibone has been dominating this season and I was wondering what his potential was?

      Jim Shonerd: He could be a mid-rotation starter. Fastball is above-average but the secondary stuff has further to go.

  17. Travis D’Arnaud, C, Blue Jays (Double-A New Hampshire): 2-for-4, 2 R, 2 RBI. Hitting .490 (24-for-49) in May and .340/.418/.546 overall; scouts have also noted improved defense. mention four of our draft chocies, cory vaugh who wouldnt sign, michael taylor, and villar, all doing well. nice to see.

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