94 thoughts on “Box Score Recap, 17 May 2011

  1. With Stutes hurt going 3+ may hurt Schwim as far as callup might be concerned. Who knows what management is thinking ??

    1. If they need somebody right away they might be thinking they wait until Schwimer is ready to pitch again after a 3 1/3 inning 53 pitch outing.

  2. Sorta good night for the minor league department. I like to judge a night down on the Farm on how it might affect the big team’s immediate needs. I read about two RBI’s from Domonic Brown and 7 K’s of the 10 Schwimer outs for a 3.1 inning save with Kratz catching him. After tonight’s game in St. Louis that’s just what the Phils need: some RBI’s, relief pitching and a new backup catcher.

    1. Amen to that! I’ve been wondering when the Phillies would call up Kratz, even more so after Schneider went down. Sardinha couldn’t hit a beach ball. Why have two RH hitting, I should say “swinging” catchers since hitting implies actually hitting the ball. I’m sure Chooch will hit at some point, but the “Not so Great Dane” never will. At least Kratz is LH and has some pop in his bat. Get rid of Sardinha!

  3. Watch out Aumont and De Fratus. 0.00 career ERA Tim Kennelly is making a bid to be the closer. In the past 3 seasons at Clearwater and Reading, and in his minor league career, he’s played 7 positions: P, C, 1B, 3B, LF, CF, RF.

  4. Watch out Aumont and De Fratus. With a 0.00 career ERA, Tim Kennelly is making a bid to be the closer. In the past 3 seasons at Clearwater and Reading, and in his minor league career, he’s played 7 positions: P, C, 1B, 3B, LF, CF, RF.

  5. Whoops, that wasn’t worth posting twice, sorry. 3 errors for Galvis. A lot of strange things in Reading. In Clearwater, May continues to miss bats both in and out of the strike zone, but I love his K’s.

    1. I am very encouraged by May’s recent results. At this point, I’d be very interested in a scouting report from anyone who’s seen him. Is he still pitching the same way that (I think) Mike Newman from Scouting the Sally described (inconsistent release, gets Ks from effective wildness and FBs up in the zone that will get hit at upper levels, telegraphs pitches)? Ah, here’s Mike’s report:


      Either way, May’s got a nice string going. I hope he can keep it up!

      1. I’d like to know this too. At the very least, he’s faring much better against high A hitters than he was last year (from 7.8BB/9 to 4.3).

  6. CLW had a runner on in every inning except the 9th. They scored 2 runs in the 6th. One on a suicide squeeze and the other on a wild pitch. I love the small ball but they have 9 hits, 2 BBs, a HBP, and two guys that reached on errors and that’s how you score 2 of the 3 runs? Savery showed some frustration getting tossed by the HP umpire after a called 3rd strike. Maybe that will light a fire in him. Joe’s batting .133 in his last 8 games. But Joe, don’t get mad…. get even.

    1. A fair amount of walks yields a .327 OBP. What’s different in my view is the power is down. .234 slug %.

  7. Time to raid the farm. Baez out by Monday Schwim in. The Fleeing Hawaiian out Tuffy or the Kman in. Brown in “pick a failure” out. If Stutes is out I would take a flier on new blood even Cisco(I know the 40) for a couple days at least until Schwim is ready. Utley
    Monday for before if he can walk.

    This is mostly a vent but cheese do something. If you can’t hit and can’t defend WHY are you with the club.

    1. Good thing they demoted Worley yesterday so they were basically screwed on BP choices. I would have hated to see Worley pitch the 9th instead of Danys Baez. But keeping Vance “stretched out” is more important apparently.

      1. Nepp, I think Worley is mirroring Blanton’s starts and that way will be ready if/when Joe goes to the DL again. I think Joe will go on DL if continues to pitch batting practice.

        1. Blanton gets a bad rap. His last four starts have been good: ERA of 3.38 and a WHIP of 1.42. The median pitcher (more than 30 IP) this year has an ERA of 3.81 and a WHIP of 1.31. He is the worst pitcher in our rotation. I am more than satisfied with Blanton’s performance.

    2. I feel your pain. The big club is pathetic right now. There are no words to describe their offensive ineptness. I can’t even watch the games. How would you like to pitch for them? Baez, the first bus, train, plane, cab,whatever, just get him out of here. Are we smarter than the bozos that run the Phils? Do they see something in Baez that we can’t? Why do they insist on keeping him?

      1. he makes $2.5 million, that’s why. amaro isn’t like gillick, who was willing to release overpaid guys (adam eaton, for example).

  8. Small sample size and all that stuff but MM in and Valdez out. Last year was great but the guy is sub .300 OBP for his career. The time for playing safe is over. He need players with nerve and effort. I was not for Martinez but he trump Valdez because if nothing else he plays the outfield and can lead off.

  9. LKW- just recalled Dabbs starts in CF, Altherr sits. 6 OF’s now. Got to check the transactions.
    Edgar Duran now at .302. Might have most hits, one of the highest averages among those with significant playing time on Lakewood. Excellent in Field. Might be on track to be organizational breakthrough among the lesser known players from the offseason thread on that subject. Whatever happened to that thread?

  10. Utley was not in Clearwater’s lineup last night is this a planned night off or not? I hope he comes back healthy as 70% is better than 100% of Wilson Valdez/Pete Orr.

    1. (Note: This post is pure speculation)

      Someone mentioned to me a possible plan for Utley.

      Tuesday: off
      Wednesday: 9 innings
      Thursday: 9 innings
      Friday: off
      Saturday: Phillies

  11. Ah the frustration and what it breeds. I like it because it forces you to look at possibilities. Still I don’t think you want Utley to feel any pressure to get back before his body is ready to do so.

    The Brown move would be the first hand I would play and he would play everyday for me. Ibanez/Gload and Mayberry would platoon in LF. Maybe give Martinez some consecutive starts at 2B.

  12. Martinez fits in CF until. Even as a pinch hitter Utley works. I think Ruben is smarter than what is going on. Which begs the question is someone interfering from above or below.

    1. I hope Ruben is “smarter than what is going on”; my only concern is stubborn and arrogant Ruben often is. It’s still absurd to me that the Phillies are the only organization without a full-time in-house stats guy.

      1. Could be Charlie Manuel and his blind loyalty to aging players who can’t perform at their previous high levels.

  13. The problem is that the Phillies seem to have a number of candidates down on the Pharm that are “almost” ready…but probably still need some more time. Although I seriously don’t see how a guy like Goosewich can be any worse than Sardinha. Even Dom Brown is unlikely to come up and be some kind of savior on offense. That is alot of pressure to put on a young guy, and there isn’t much protection for him in the MLB lineup to help take some of that pressure off. Jason Heyward is a good comparison of what is realistic to expect from even the best rookies early on.

    1. He doesn’t have to be a savior of the offense. Francisco has a .673 OPS and so-so fielding. He’s got a .224 BABIP so maybe some of that is bad luck, he’s hitting under .500 on line drives.

      Ibanez has a .618 OPS and has bad range, a bad arm, bad routes, and bad decision making in the outfield. If Brown can give you .250/.300/.400 while learning on the job he’s an improvement, and they’re going to need to trust him with a big league role sooner or later. I think he can do that.

      1. Don, fair enough, maybe you’re right. One thing for sure is that they will need to do something. The pitching might get them to the playoffs, but like last year, the hitting isn’t good enough to win a World Series. I feel pretty confident about that.

        This is another reason why I am so annoyed with their MLB low draft spend over the last 2 years. They need more quality position players in the Pharm system…Utley, Rollins, and Polonco won’t last forever…Utely really scares me with his health issues…and even if Brown can take over in RF, Ibanez needs to be replaced on the roster successfully. To date Francisco / Mayberry havn’t proven they can be trusted to do that. It isn’t like the bottom is falling out, it isn’t, but the Phillies will need some answers by next season…and that involves more than just Dom Brown.

      2. They certainly have set the bar low.

        As for the doom and gloom, I counsel patience for several reasons. This team will soon add Utley, Victorino and Brown back to the fold and Ruiz just needs to get untracked. I expect either Ibanez or Francisco to play better but fear not, the team will orchestrate a trade for a corner outfielder that can hit.

        In a very short period they could go from being a horrible hitting team (which frankly, they are right now), to a good (but not great) hitting team. They only need to be good in order to be a WS contender and I see that happening.

        Patience. It will work out.

    2. I agree with this. Last night a poster went nuts on Sardinha and, having not seen the first few innings of the game, I thought he (she?) was referring to the extremely lame tag that Sardinha missed LAST WEEK. All Sardinha is here to do is play defense. He is otherwise useless. If you are Dane Sardinha and you can’t get a tag down or block the plate, you are as much use to the team as an elephant dropping and you should be gone immediately. The team should not tolerate this a second longer.

  14. Here’s a potential roster problem – obviously when Utley comes back, either Valdez Orr or Martinez will go. If the Phils then call up Brown, who goes? It won’t be Shane, Raul, Gload, Mayberry, or Francisco which means we’d have a 6 man OF and a 5 man IF. With Utley just coming back, I don’t think they can do that. Because of that, I think they will wait until there is an injury, or can they option Ben to AAA?

    Sardinha must go, pathetic.

    1. Gload’s real position is 1B, with him and say Wilson Valdez we’d have six infielders and five outfielders. We don’t need Valdez AND Orr after Utley comes back.

    2. I would prefer to DFA Sardinha, put Kratz on the 40 man roster and call him up to the big team. I would move Gosewich up to AAA to replace Kratz and send down Francisco to AAA if possible to make room for Brown.

    1. Can you say the big club might need a bullpen arm shortly and made the call to get him out of the game?

      1. He was pulled well before the Phillies game even started last night so they had no way of knowing Stutes would be injured.

    2. Probably because Worley has been pitching out of the bullpen for the Phillies over the past week or so, so I’m pretty sure he was probably on a pitch limit, which I’m guessing was ….75?

    3. I doubt he was on that low of a pitch count. I am guessing that they did not want that outing to go any more south than it already had. It is understandable that he experienced a let down. He kicked major league butts for 3 weeks as a starter and reliever and he gets demoted. If he weren’t bummed out about it I’d think there was something wrong with him.

    4. 74 pitches is around the work load a starter might accumulate and add another inning and he might be around 100 pitches which very much would be . He would be capable of making his next turn in the AAA rotation with a normal starters workload which is really all that matters for now. There is no need for a bunch of developing type pitchers to be sitting around the MLB bullpen with no clearly defined role. I believe what most on here are irked about is that it messed up Worley’s pretty AAA stat line.

  15. -Who do you like in the draft? I know James doesn’t like doing draft previews anymore, but thats my ONLY criticism of this site. Maybe someone else could do it?
    -What kind of stuff does Friend have? Is he a prospect?
    -When is Barnes going to Reading?
    -Nice to see Collier and Hewitt gaining some consistency.
    -Galvis’s average is back to mediocre, but its good to see him getting on base. If he can keep his OBP around .340 and steal some bases, he won’t kill you offensively.
    -Derrick Martinez keeps showing up. He still has some upside.
    -I understand why they want Worley starting every 5 days, but he’s wasting bullets in AAA. You have to think they’re trying to showcase both Blanton and Worley as they look to improve the offense. Regardless, Worley will be pitching for somebody in the major leagues this September.
    -Great to see Schwim go 3 and get a lot of Ks. Looks like we’ll be saving money on the bullpen for the next decade.

    Baez and Romero make me cringe every time. I almost hate seeing Baez throwing so hard. I GUESS they’re preserving their depth, both short and long-term, but its not my money and I’m sick of seeing those guys. When you watch Stutes, Bastardo and Worley, they’re not just giving you a “workman-like effort”, they look like they’re trying to WIN the game. They can’t score runs on the mound, but their energy is infectious and can inspire an offense in the late innings.

    1. Who is there at 39, that’s the first pick , you know? That’s guess work, at best.
      About the only draft tout sheet I ever look at is the one by Garrioch, says his name is Matt, but I suspect it’s really hockey writer Bruce Garrioch, so who knows the validity of that. They say the strength of the draft is power pitchers, so they could be best served by taking with their first 6 picks in the first 5 rounds of the draft, the best power pitchers available at those spots, and then rummage through the later rounds for high school position players and then later for back-up college types and college relievers. My first bad guess for 39 area types picks for Philly would be the Puerto Rican RHP Jorge Lopez. Anglicize the name and you got the same name as a guy who had his own sitcom. And they say he’s big and strong and throws 95 +. That guess just might stack up as good as any among those guessing without having actually seeing the player.

  16. I get that Gload can play 1B but that still leaves Wilson Valdez as the only backup 2B, SS, or 3B on the entire roster. I’ve never seen an MLB roster only have one true backup. Mayberry can also play 1B but that doesn’t help…

  17. I do not think coaches and GMs have the same approach as fans to quickly replace struggling players. I think they are more likely to let the plan they have in place play itself out. Promoting someone since he ‘will be no worse’ seems like worthless shuffling. It gives the impression of ‘doing something’ when over a long season consistency may be better served.

    In my opinion, at this point nobody in the minors is quite ready for the majors. Zagurski is hated in the majors but great in the minors. Why should I think the other guys who are good in the minors will be good in the majors?

    Phillies will likely have to make a roster move for a relief pitcher. Herndon because of the 40-man is the most likely.
    There are no good catchers anywhere. I would have preferred Kratz initially but shuffling through multiple catchers with this strong pitching staff may be more harmful than worth an extra hit a month.
    All the backukp infield guys stink. That is not a surprise. Belliard seems like another ‘move for moves sake’ but Frandsen was really the only guy deserving (and now we know why). Phillies will likely just wait until Utley returns to make a move on INF.
    Francisco might be okay in RF if he was batting 7th with little pressure to ‘carry’ the offense. With half the lineup out (and Ibanez and Rollins not very good) he has much higher expectations.

  18. “I do not think coaches and GMs have the same approach as fans to quickly replace struggling players. I think they are more likely to let the plan they have in place play itself out. Promoting someone since he ‘will be no worse’ seems like worthless shuffling. It gives the impression of ‘doing something’ when over a long season consistency may be better served.”

    Right on target – and, I hate to sound like a broken record, evidence that baseball people understand sample size better than the typical fan.

    Re Francisco, what probably most confuses me isn’t that people would prefer Mayberry, as misguided as I think that is (in a full time role, anyway). What’s odd to me that fans would rather sit Francisco than Ibanez. Despite the brief hot streak of a week or so ago, I think Ibanez is cooked. Once Brown is ready (soon, I hope) I like Brown and Francisco as the corner outfielders. Maybe platoon Brown and Mayberry initially. But Ibanez is done; he’s the guy who should sit. At this point, Francisco is a better fielder (not saying much, I know), better on base skills, equal power, better contact skills … it isn’t close.

    Separate topic. Of course in big picture terms, it’s hilarious that some people focus on the back-up catchers & infielders as the cause for the Phillies’ offensive woes. That’s … 5% of the problem, or less. It’s injuries plus slumps plus the fact that, given aging patterns and the loss of Werth to FA, even at full strength this isn’t as good an offensive team as we are used to.

    1. And what is Baez’s sample size? What does sample size have to do with not having the instinct or courage to block the plate. If you want to look at small sample size look at the periods when Raul has hit. Larry you may be right but now IS the time to PANIC.

      1. Baez hasn’t had a good season since 2005.

        Since then – 4.95 ERA, 97BB and 142K in 245 IP. That’s an emergency AAAA pitcher line, not something you should be paying a couple million bucks a year for.

        1. Baez is hideous. As soon as I saw him warming up in the 8th inning I knew they had to score a run in the top of the 9th or they would lose in the bottom of the 9th. It wasn’t a hunch or a fear – it was a matter of certainty in my mind. In fact, I didn’t even pay attention in the bottom of the 9th because I knew it was over.

          Baez sucks. He sucks a lot. But, right now, they are operating a M*A*S*H unit, particularly in the bullpen. Absent a complete turnaround by him immediately (don’t laugh, stuff like that happens – in fact, it happened to Rheal Cormier a few years back), it will be very easy. There will not be a place for him and he will be released. Good riddance.

          1. I think that’s right. One point no one has mentioned – having Baez on the staff is suboptimal but generally shouldn’t be a huge deal if he is used properly. But it was insane to put him in a high leverage situation. There were better options available.

            And really that is another forest/trees issue – not one your part, but on others. Baez is horrible, but having a horrible pitcher as your worst reliever – especially given all of the injuries – ranks pretty low on the list of problems with the team. But that doesn’t mean you put him in in the 9th inning of a tied game.

            1. What better options are you referring to?
              Obviously Madson could pitch one inning and he either loses the game or keeps it tied. Then Phils rely on their great offense to get the lead then give the ball to…..?
              Mathieson? He likely has better ‘stuff’ than Baez but he has had difficulty in the Majors, or
              Romero the walk machine with RH coming up, or
              Baez! Either way he was going to pitch. In the 9th or 10th. Unless the Phillies scored more than 1 run Baez was likely to blow it anyway.

              I just do not think they would want Mathieson in a tight game to lose. He has enough confidence problems. After seeing how pitiful Baez looked I guess tossing him out there would have been better.

      2. On Baez, you may be right. Obviously there is an issue there (his salary) that some of think shouldn’t influence the decision but it does. But big picture, the problem is NOT Baez specifically or relief pitching (which has been great) generally. Nor is backup catcher.

        Big picture the problem is offense. And it isn’t time to panic (well, it’s NEVER time to panic, but nor is it time to make significant roster moves), because one of two things is going to happen – the team will get healthy, or they will continue to struggle. Of the starting 8, including Brown in that total, 5 players recently have been absent or ailing. NO team can survive that comfortably. FIVE OF EIGHT. And the 3 healthy position starters have been slumping. And we’re going to fix those problems by … bringing up a different replacement level catcher from AAA?

        Nowheels, your commenting has improved, but you (and some others on this site) suffer from one remaining defect – not seeing the forest for the trees. The forest is massive injuries among the position players (and to a lesser extent among the relievers, though there the team has been more fortunate in the results from replacements). In that context, arguing about which replacement level reserve forced into a starting role is the less bad option … or which 7th pitcher out of the bullpen is better … isn’t significant.

        And last year was a perfect example of what I am saying. Panic among some commenters here set in when injuries hit. And again you had huge screeds about why this back up or that back up was destroying the team’s chances, and how it was time to panic. But the team did not panic – they made one big but non-panic move to get a starter (actually before the main injuries hit), a couple minor moves to get some bench offense, and … got healthy. And coasted to a first place finish.

      3. And not to beat a dead horse, but this isn’t a defense of Baez (except to the limited extent that, given all the injuries, this isn’t the time to release him) or Sardinha. But it just seems odd after a 2-1 loss, during string of losses where the team has scored 7 runs in 4 games, that people are complaining about a relief pitcher and a defensive play by a catcher. They scored 1 run – and their 4 healthy regulars had a total of one hit between them! And Baez and Sardinha are the problems??!!

        1. No, it’s not that Baez and Sardinha are the main problems. They are pointless problems. They are avoidable problems. They are fixable problems. They also point to some odd managerial problems.

          1. The team is going through a bit of a lull. I think there are cheaper and potentially better options in the minors right now that could benefit from Major League experience. In general, I agree with Charlie’s bias towards experienced veterans. But there is a time where that philosophy must change – when the core of your team is aging. The problem with this team is there hasn’t been ascending young players in the past 3 years to compliment the aging core.

            The emergence of the bull pen arms is promising; but we need Dom Brown to infuse some life into the lineup and grow. Same with Mayberry. (I would vote only batting Mayberry against lefties, but that’s just me).

    1. Nowheels,

      NO TEAM IN BASEBALL HAS BACKUPS WHO CAN HIT. On the whole, that is. Generally speaking adequate defensive players who can hit ARE REGULAR POSITION PLAYERS for someone. Outfielders are a somewhat different story – some teams do have back-up outfielders who can hit some. The Phillies did, actually, but both got moved into starting roles because of injuries. Team’s obviously can’t afford to carry a pure 1B backup, so 1B who can hit, but can’t play another position & aren’t regulars, are stuck in AAA. That leaves infielders and catchers – and the set of infielders and catchers who can hit, who aren’t complete zeros on the field, and who aren’t regulars for some team – is the null set. Or close to it. Yes, you can find some (again) small sample size exceptions. But infield/catching reserves who can hit essentially DO NOT EXIST.

      1. Interesting challenge – find an exception to what I said. There are a number of bench players hitting well this e=season – but I looked at a bunch of them, and in EVERY case you have someone in a small number of PA hitting WAY over their heads. No one who you would have said, before the season, “there’s a player the Phillies’ should acquire.”

        Now I’m sure someone will be able to find a bench OF or two who can really hit (as opposed to one who just happens to be hitting well this year. But IF and C – I’d be surprised if there were more than 2 or 3, league wide.

        All that said, an interesting side note: the Mets, of all teams, have had a GREAT bench. But I wouldn’t say that anyone on their bench is someone you would have said, ex ante, “there’s a good hitting bench player.”

      2. The problem is that we’re getting into situations where three of these backups are in the lineup at once. The Phillies are getting a .595 OPS from the 5th spot, .626 from the 7th and .520 from the eighth spot. If Wilson Valdez were the utility infielder and Ben Francisco the 4th outfielder it would be fine. But we’re running into games where the Phillies are fielding four players who don’t really merit regular playing time.

        Sometimes you chalk that up to injuries, and certainly the Chase Utley thing is just bad luck. But someone like Sardinha who is probably the worst hitting catcher in the International League is just a head scratcher. It shouldn’t take a lot to get better production.

        1. Gee, maybe we could get a catcher with a .600 ops instead and score 2 more runs over the course of the season. Yeah, that will fix things right up.

          You’re not getting it. It’s not just Utley, but Utley, and Brown, and Ruiz, and (more recently) Victorino and Polanco. 5 of 8. And oh, yeah, the other 3 regulars slumping. Improving the back up catcher might, over the course of the season, mean 1/5 of a win (that is, 20% chance of one additional win. Getting healthy, for this team, means probably 10 plus extra wins over the remaining course of the season. Or more.

          Teams which lose 5/8 of their starting lineups NEVER WIN. Never, ever, ever. It is irrational and a even a little sick to blame losing on subpar reserves WHEN THE PROBLEM IS 100% injuries.

          Look, maybe they should make a move at back up catcher. I frankly don’t think it will make any real difference, but certainly Sardinha isn’t setting the world on fire. But to pretend that that is a significant factor in the Phillies’ current problems is … mind boggling. Truly mind boggling.

        2. And yes, I take this stuff too seriously, but it’s mind numbing – every time the Phillies hit a rough spot, usually injury related, the same 3 or 4 commenters go on and on about poor hitting reserves – it’s irrational – it’s … I’m trying to find a real world analogy, but having a hard time finding something that crazy. I don’t know, like people stuck in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina complaining that the bottled water dropped from rescue helicopters was Poland Springs rather than Evian.

        3. Of course here’s really the bottom line: if the key to getting the offense going is to get better bench players, then we are doomed. Really that’s the bottom line. Even if you guys were right in some sense, given the fact that good hitting bench players essentially do not exist, there isn’t a solution to the problem.

          Fortunately you aren’t right. The team will get healthier, and slumping regulars will start hitting again. Utley is still a question mark – but even without him the team will most likely make the post season.

          1. There are things you can do nothing about. Others you can make a change but when you have a quantity of absolute ZERO how in the name of god can it hurt to do that.
            e.g. Failure to block the plate. Hey brother they don’t call him Tuffy for nuttin.
            Its time to PANIC. They couldn’t hit a pitcher with a .319 average against. Panic everyone

            1. Well as I said I’m not going to defend Sardinha. But there is a larger point here … well beyond baseball. There are plenty of problems with no obvious solution (or, maybe more properly, no quick fix solution, or any solution beyond patience). “There are things you can do nothing about.”

              But people always want to “do something.” Even if that something is not helpful or even counterproductive, Now, replacing the back up catcher in this case probably wouldn’t be counterproductive. But panicing would be.

              Sometimes it’s best to do nothing.

  19. what non pitcher have the phillies drafted and is playing for any team and contribion.in the last 8 years and who is a positon ready player beside brown who might help. i am trying to think of one.

    1. Okay, let’s start with the fact that most players take 3-4 years going through the system before they are “major league ready.” The exceptions are generally out of reach for a team drafting at the tail end of the 1st round. So really asking about the last 8 drafts is deceptive – I wouldn’t expect to see much from the last 3-4 drafts yet. My guess is that when the dust settles, we’ll be adding a couple of players (Singleton and maybe one of the tool sheds) to Brown and Bourne. So maybe 4 over 8 years.

      Is that such a horrible total? Some regulars don’t come through the draft, and most regulars play several years.Add to that the fact that the Phillies have emphasized pitching over that time frame, and that, even under the best of circumstances, some luck is involved, and factor in the low draft position – that’s really not a bad result. 4 in 8 wouldn’t be horrible.

    1. I mean, don’t get me wrong, it’s not an unreasonable question, I think my sarcasm in some replies bleeds over in people’s minds to other replies, even when I’m taking the questions seriously.

      Of course there are some near misses as well – Taylor especially, and I really thought that Marson was going to be a regular for some team for at least a couple of years. Seems that traded Phillies prospects haven’t had much good fortune lately. Though there are still a couple possible regulars among those traded players.

  20. Ex ante, it wasn’t clear that either was a bad choice. (Remember, Sardinha was never the first choice for backup catcher.) Now, as you say yourself, Baez can’t be released until some people get healthy. Sardinha – honestly off hand I am not sure if there us a 40 man roster problem, but if there isn’t, it will be interesting to see if a move is made now.

    Either way, what I object to is the lack of proportion among the detractors. They forget (especially for Sardinha, the Baez situation is somewhat different in this regard) the lack of good options.

    As for “odd managerial problems,” not sure what this refers to. But if you refer to Manuel’s … sometimes idiosyncratic in game managerial decisions, you have a point, but you got to take the good with the bad, and overall I wouldn’t make a change there.

    1. Look, I love Charlie. He is about as good at keeping his players motivated and balanced as any manager I’ve ever seen. But he makes some bad personnel moves. The 9th inning of a tie game is, statistically, the most important time to put in your best pitcher, not the guy you know will give up a run. Horrible move putting Baez in the game. And, while I’m at it, Charlie never seems to rest his regulars, except, of course, when the rest of the line-up is out injured and he needs every good player available. These and many other head scratchers are available for your viewing pleasure each evening. You don’t know what I mean by questionable managerial moves? What team are you watching?

      1. This stuff I covered during the winter and sure enough Cholly has made little or no adjustments to his methods. Stacking the starting pitchers has limited his decisions. Raul Ibanez being his poster child. He got hot and Cholly rode him into the ground again.
        .176 the last seven days. BTW the team avg for the last seven .188 with MM being the top hitter. Cholly act only works with good players.

        1. Nobody can win with bad players.

          Look, I know Manuel has his limitations. My point responding to Catch yesterday was that, while he does have his limits, he gets blamed around here for a lot of stuff that isn’t his fault. Ibanez is a case in point. It’s not like there have been many options given injuries and losing Werth to FA. You can blame the organization to some extent for that I guess – though even that is mostly unfair – but not Manuel.

        2. And along with this, a lot of people here (including, and even primarily, ironically enough, some of the traditionalists) miss some of the legitimate non-quantifiable considerations that go into decisionmaking by Manuel and the organization. For example, if Sardinha really is preferred by the pitching staff, given the lack of a clearly superior options, I don’t blame Manuel for going with him.

          Even if you disagree, people act like perfectly explicable decisions just don’t make sense. The fact that some people don’t understand the logic doesn’t mean there is no logic.

  21. 1. OF – Domonic Brown (Lehigh Valley) – (.361) 1 for 2 with 2 RBI, a run and 2 BB’s
    2. RHP – Brody Colvin (Clearwater)- (0-1, 7.11) – DNP
    3. OF – Jon Singleton (Clearwater)- (.265) –1 for 4 with a BB and a K
    4. RHP – Jared Cosart (Clearwater) – (4-3, 3.52) – DNP
    5. RHP – Trevor May (Clearwater)- (3-2, 3.89) – 7 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 3 BB and 11 K’s (win)
    6. C – Sebastian Valle (Clearwater) – (.337) – DNP
    7. LHP – Jesse Biddle (Lakewood) – (1-5, 5.57) – DNP
    8. RHP – Vance Worley (Lehigh valley) – (2-2, 3.51) – 3 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB and a K
    9. OF – Tyson Gillies (Reading) – DNP
    10. RHP – Justin De Fratus (Reading) – (2-0, 3.12, 3 SV) – DNP
    11. RHP – Julio Rodriquez (Clearwater)- (5-1, 2.17) – DNP
    12. 2B – Cesar Hernandez (Clearwater) – (.184) 1 for 3 with a run and an RBI
    13. OF – Domingo Santana (Lakewood) – (.245) 1 for 3 with a run, a BB and 2 K’s
    14. RHP – JC Ramirez (Reading) – (5-2, 2.92) – DNP
    15. OF – Aaron Altherr (Lakewood) – (.193) – DNP
    16. RHP – Jon Pettibone (Clearwater) – (3-3, 1.69) DNP
    17. C – Cameron Rupp (Lakewood) – (.205) – 1 for 3 with a 2B (3), a run, a BB and a K
    18. OF – Jiwan James (Clearwater) – (.225) – 1 for 4 with a BB and a SB (5)
    19. 2B – Harold Garcia (Reading) – (.300) Out for the season with a torn ACL
    20. RHP – Kevin Walter – Season hasn’t started
    21. RHP – Colby Shreve (Lakewood) – (2-3, 4.85) – DNP
    22. RHP – Phillippe Aumont (Reading) – (0-2, 3.50, 3 SV) – DNP
    23. RHP – Michael Schwimer (Lehigh Valley) – (1-0, 2.45, SV) – 3.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB and 7 K’s (save)
    24. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (Reading) – (.350) – 1 for 3 with a 2B with a run, 2 BB’s and a K
    25. RHP – Austin Hyatt (Reading) – (5-2, 4.19) – 3.1 IP, 5 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 3 BB and 5 K’s (loss)
    26. OF – Leandro Castro (Clearwater) – (.276) – 1 for 5 with a K
    27. OF – Miguel Alvarez (Lakewood) –(.222) – DNP
    28. OF – Kelly Dugan – Season hasn’t started
    29. RHP – Josh Zeid (Reading) – (1-3, 6.28) – DNP
    30. RHP – Percival Garner – Season hasn’t started


    1B – Cody Overbeck (Reading) – (.265) 0 for 3w with an RBI
    1B – Darin Ruf (Clearwater) – (.398) – 0 for 1
    3B – Ronnie Belliard (Lehigh Valley) – (.278) – 2 for 5
    3B – Geancarlo Mendez (Lakewood) – (.276) DNP
    SS – Freddy Galvis (Redding) – (.238) – 0 for 3 with a run, an RBI and 2 BB’s
    OF – Derrick Mitchell (Redding)- (.258) – 2 for 5 with a 2B (5), a run and a K
    OF – Joe Savery (Clearwater) –(.362) – 1 for 4 with a K
    RHP – David Buchanan (Lakewood) – (5-2, 2.29) – 3.1 IP, 9 H, 5 R, 5 Er, 5 BB and 0 K’s (loss)
    RHP – Lisalberto Bonilla (Lakewood) – (0-1, 0.73) –DNP
    LHP – Mario Hollands (Lakewood) –(2-3, 4.43) – DNP

    1. I said a couple days ago that Rizzotti could keep doing what he is doing forever without becoming a “top” prospect. And that remains true today.

      But if you combine the big league team’s slumping hitting and Rizzotti’s just day after day pounding the ball … you wish – well, I wish – that he was athletic enough to play even a passable OF.

      I do find it a little strange that he still doesn’t have any apparent trade value. Yeah, his AA numbers are inflated for all the reasons that myself and others have stated. But I have to believe there is a team out there that can use him.

  22. At this point I could see the Phillies trying to get a ‘hot bat’ somehow into the lineup. When they are losing multiple 1 run games, all that is needed is someone to hit a HR. But who from AAA can do that?
    If Bozied could field 3B then I would try him for Orr or Valdez, but Bozied is just coming back from DL. Belliard would still be the best ‘do something’ move but he has cooled off. Kratz has to be better than Sardinha (I think Kratz was slightly hurt when Ruiz when out) but I do not want the pitching staff affected.

    Again I come back to how much difference would it make? Kratz makes the most sense in my opinion. He has a history as a good hitter and is a reasonable fielder. Given him a few starts with Ruiz coming off the bench and maybe teams do not know how to pitch him for a week and he knocks in some runs.

  23. Yes, the phillies current streak is frustrating but they seem to go through this every season. Take a look at last season. Ironically, it was almost at exactly the same time that they had the following offensive run.
    May 22 – 0 runs – L
    May 23 – 3 runs – L
    May 25 – 0 runs – L
    May 26 – 0 runs – L
    May 27 – 0 runs – L
    May 28 – 3 runs – w
    May 29th 1 run – w
    May 30th 0 runs – L
    May 31st 3 runs – L

    So over a 9 game stretch, they scored 10 total runs.

    Point is that going nuts over an offensive slump, especially when their line-up is a collection of backups, is the definition of foolishness. They are in 1st place in the division and have terrific pitching night in/night-out. The baseball season is very long and there will always be ebb and flow. Smart organizations are the ones who are patient and don’t panic at the first sign of trouble

    1. Agreed. Assuming the injured players return, you are probably looking at one significant move to pick up a hitting corner OF. Aside from that, they should be fine.

  24. In Clearwater it is obvious that Chase Utley needs a lot more time to get his timing down and that Jose Contreras may be there for a bit. It is great to watch a young pitcher like Biddle grow into his role. Tonight he gave an idea of what he will be. At this stage though, these glimpses may be just that. I like what I see. What a night for Rizzotti! and in Portland! Derrick Mitchell wasn’t bad either. Lehigh Valley built a lead, lost it, then won it on Dom Brown’s first hit of the game. He gets a lot of RsBI (as Frantzke say now on the radio). Good night for the farm.

    1. Utley will be here sooner then later…most of the guys don’t tear it up on these rehab stints. I give Utley a couple more games and bet you see him play in the Cinn series next week.

  25. Bring up the Riz! If Panco Herrara can play second base why not Howard.

    Nice work Biddle! Cloyd struck out the side also nice.

    1. Pancho Herrara started as a 2B, got heavier and moved to 1B. Howard will be a little disadvantaged at 2B because he throws Left. And that right side of the Infield?

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