58 thoughts on “Box Score Recap, 10 May 2011

    1. To me, Orr, Valdez, and Martinez are pretty inconsistent with the bat, only Valdez is an exceptional fielder. Seems we are wasting a good bat and some decent pinch hit appearances and spot starts in AAA. Why have three IFs with mediocre bats on the team when a guy with a little offense is available? Time to do it is now, when it might make difference in a ball game to have more than a weak ground ball in a late inning situation.

  1. Brian Gordon is quietly having a very good year. He has not let up an earned run yet in 17.2 innings and batters are hitting just .177 against him. He has been pretty solid in triple a for the past three seasons but he hasn’t pitched in the majors since 08 and it was only for three games. Maybe he will eventually get a shot in the bullpen. Possibly when Chooch comes back since they are most likely going to designate Dane Sardinha for assignment.

    1. Chooch is going to replace Sardinha, Chooch coming back will create no room in the bullpen.

  2. Who the hell is this Utley kid playing in A ball? Clearly a career minor leaguer given his age and level of play .250 batting? Please it’s time to let the kids play!

      1. Dude was drafted like 8 years ago. Time to give up on him if he is only in CLW at this point.

  3. Throw Orr in the water and try Frandsen before Utley comes back. Could he POSSIBLY
    be worse than the inning killer.
    Most the bench and the right handed corner guys add up to 9 hits for May.

      1. Sorta a frick or frack thingy. This has got to be the worse bench ever, Gload excluded.

  4. 1. OF – Domonic Brown (Lehigh Valley) – (.367) 1 for 4 with a 2B (2) and a K
    2. RHP – Brody Colvin (Clearwater)- (0-0, 9.00) DNP
    3. OF – Jon Singleton (Clearwater)- (.315) –1 for 3 with a BB and a K
    4. RHP – Jared Cosart (Clearwater) – (3-3, 4.15) – DNP
    5. RHP – Trevor May (Clearwater)- (2-2, 4.65) – DNP
    6. C – Sebastian Valle (Clearwater) – (.303) – 2 for 4 with a 2B (6)
    7. LHP – Jesse Biddle (Lakewood) – (1-4, 5.47) – DNP
    8. RHP – Vance Worley (Lehigh valley) – (2-2, 2.78) – Up with the big club
    9. OF – Tyson Gillies (Reading) – DNP
    10. RHP – Justin De Fratus (Reading) – (2-0, 2.51, 3 SV) – DNP
    11. RHP – Julio Rodriquez (Clearwater)- (5-0, 1.67) – DNP
    12. 2B – Cesar Hernandez (Clearwater) – (.176) 0 for 4 with a K
    13. OF – Domingo Santana (Lakewood) – (.233) 1 for 4 with 3 K’s
    14. RHP – JC Ramirez (Reading) – (4-2, 2.53) – 3.0 IP, 6 H, 4 R¸3 ER, 1 BB and 3 K’s (loss)
    15. OF – Aaron Altherr (Lakewood) – (.198) – 0 for 2 with a run and 2 BB
    16. RHP – Jon Pettibone (Clearwater) – (3-2, 1.69) – 6.2 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 1 BB and 4 K’s (loss)
    17. C – Cameron Rupp (Lakewood) – (.183) – 0 for 3 with a run and a K
    18. OF – Jiwan James (Clearwater) – (.256) – 1 for 4 with a run
    19. 2B – Harold Garcia (Reading) – (.300) Out for the season with a torn ACL
    20. RHP – Kevin Walter – Season hasn’t started
    21. RHP – Colby Shreve (Lakewood) – (2-2, 3.68) – DNP
    22. RHP – Phillippe Aumont (Reading) – (0-2, 2.57, 2 SV) – DNP
    23. RHP – Michael Schwimer (Lehigh Valley) – (1-0, 2.25) – 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB and 3 K’s
    24. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (Reading) – (.333) – 2 for 4 with K
    25. RHP – Austin Hyatt (Reading) – (4-1, 3.27) – DNP
    26. OF – Leandro Castro (Clearwater) – (.263) – DNP
    27. OF – Miguel Alvarez (Lakewood) –(.230) – DNP
    28. OF – Kelly Dugan – Season hasn’t started
    29. RHP – Josh Zeid (Reading) – (1-2, 4.38) – DNP
    30. RHP – Percival Garner – Season hasn’t started


    1B – Cody Overbeck (Reading) – (.279) o for 4 with 2 K’s
    1B – Darin Ruf (Clearwater) – (.295) – 1 for 3
    3B – Ronnie Belliard (Lehigh Valley) – (.296) – 0 for 3 with an RBI and a K
    3B – Geancarlo Mendez (Lakewood) – (.308) 1 for 4
    SS – Freddy Galvis (Redding) – (.241) – 0 for 4 with a K and two errors (5)
    OF – Derrick Mitchell (.268) – 2 for 3 with a run, BB amd SB (4)
    OF – Joe Savery (Clearwater) –(.394) – DNP
    RHP – Jordan Ellis (Reading) – (1-0, 3.38) – DNP
    RHP – David Buchanan (Lakewood) – (4-1, 1.77) – DNP
    RHP – Lisalberto Bonilla (Lakewood) – (0-1, 1.42) – DNP
    LHP – Mario Hollands (Lakewood) –(2-3, 3.98) – DNP

    1. Was at the Reading game and Ramirez was not sharp at all. His pitch count was high and they had the bullpen throwing in the first inning. I sat right next to dugout and saw Ramirez being consolled by pitching coach Milacki after every inning as he was pretty frustrated with his outing. Actually he could have got out of it but had poor defense behind him. Mitchell misplayed a ball that led to a run in the 1st when Ramirez could have escaped clean but they called it a hit. Galvis had two errors and couldn’t hit the ball out of the infield in fact a couple didn’t make it past the pitcher! UGH!
      Tuffy Gosewich had a good night and was striking the ball well. Manny Benuelos the high pitching prospect for the Yankees looked really good and had most of our guys off balance all night. I did get to meet DeFratus before the game and he was a really nice kid. Lastly I know this is nothing new to you all but Rizzotti is huge man!

      1. Rizz reminds me physically of Jim Thome, large, thick in the middle, not huge in the legs–a bit top heavy. Both good-natured guys too. I’d be happy if Rizz made the majors and was .25 Jim Thome in production.

      2. Tuffy G. is quietly becoming a prospect (maybe) as a backup catcher. Reports in ST had him chiseling his body and increasing his strength and bat speed over the winter. Seems to have paid off. He could possibly take over the job from Schneider in a couple years or at least be the third guy instead of Sardinha. He’ll have to avoid a tailspin and maintain decent hitting to get that opportunity. Then hit the weights and personal trainer again next winter to build on his gains. Love to see guys putting in the work to crate an opportunity for themselves. I get as much out of that as watching a blue chip guy blossom.

        1. hopefully Schneider isn’t around for a couple more years because he’s already 34 and not very good. He is a FA after the season and the team needs to look elsewhere for a backup.

          Not sure the Phillies have anyone in the system ready for 2012 but by 2013 Tuffy might be able to to take that role. The Phillies seem to like how he handles their pitching prospects.

        2. Tuffy is unlikely to hit in the majors. He could be a good defensive backup like so many other fringe catchers, but I doubt his bat will leave any team wanting him for anything other than emergency depth.

  5. please listen to this,Ruben please. please no more sardina or schnider, this lineup now is like the bad days of wine, dalrymple pitcher, I am not enjoying the team its painful to watch the hitters after howard, and howard also is scaring me, chasing some really bad pitches,

    1. Got it, thanks. Hopefully some of the suggestions you provide can help use improve our record.

  6. A tough loss last night with a wasted great performance from Halliday. The bottom of the order does remind me of the days of Bobby Wine , Dalrymple and the pitcher . That being said why did Sardinha a RH hitter start over Schneider a LH bat ? Gload should also platoon in RF, Mayberry should platoon in LF and Valdez should platoon at 2B .
    Amaro also needs to get better catching and infield help at these back up positions for the Phillies to be serious contenders this year even if it means moving some of their younger pitchers .
    Putting up .220 hitters with no power in the 7th and 8th positions in the lineup does not cut it .

    1. Valdez and Orr are platooning. Orr had great numbers against Johnson before last night. Halliday is not a Schneider fan.
      Time to cut ties with Martinez and add Frandsen for awhile.
      Mayberry had a great at bat in the ninth. Team played too conservatively–couple great chances to run and would not go. Laying down a couple bunts on Dobbs would have been nice.
      What does Gordon throw?

      1. He throws a baseball.

        In all seriousness, Gordon throws about 90-91 on the gun. He’s an interesting pitcher as he converted to the mound after several years as a minor league outfielder. (And he wasn’t a punch and judy hitter either. He has 118 career HRs.) I think he could pitch in the back end of someone’s MLB bullpen. Not a lot of upside but he’s useable.

    2. Sandinha is supposedly a good catcher for Halladay, so what Halladay wants, Halladay should get. (It would be better if he could hit a little to help himself out then not walk the opposing pitcher though.)
      I am not sure how many ‘good’ backup catchers there are. I’m not sure how many ‘good’ starting catchers there are, let alone backups.
      Unless the Phillies are going to pay a bench player $6M+ (Polanco) they are unlikely to get a ‘good’ middle infield hitter either. Other than Tulowitzki there is not much at SS but 2B is quite better.

      Losing Garcia hurts since I could at least hope he could become a better than average bench player with speed. Otherwise, all that is left at INF and C are AAAA fodder.

  7. Getting Utley and Chooch back soon will certainly have that lineup looking different. Its really time for Martinez to be offered back. Orr gets to stay until Dom is brought up in June sometime. Frandsen certainly looks like a keeper as insurance but he’ll stay at AAA because there’s no roster spot for him once Utley comes back, and thankfully, that appears to be soon. Out minor league pitching looks very good in general although some guys with hot starts are cooling off. Now we get to see if they’re really good and can reclaim that early excellence. Have to be excited by Biddle’s progress and how come no one talks about J Rod? Our C Water big 3 are taking a back seat to J Rod.

    1. Haven’t heard otherwise, but I’d think that DBrown will be up before June if he continues showing power in the minors. I didn’t necessarily have lofty expectations for Francisco coming into the season, but I felt he would more than hold his own. Brown seems like a perfect fit to take some at-abs away from Raul and Ben. Hope to see DB within a few weeks

    2. Utley will probably be back pretty soon and I’m guessing that Orr and not Martinez will be sent down. Orr will have virtually no role as a left-handed hitting second baseman once Utley is back and he doesn’t play that many other positions. Martinez is more versatile than Orr. As a hitter, Orr is down to .234 and while that is better than Martinez (.150), Martinez has had only 20 AB and I expect that they would want to check him out a little more before returning him.

  8. Steve : Don’t hold your breath if you expect Brown to be up in a few weeks . I heard an interview with Amaro yesterday on Brown and it appears they are in no hurry to bring him up, he wants him to get a considerable amount of at bats @ AAA

    1. I hear you Dom, been following RAJs commentary. I just have a suspicion that he’ll be recalled earlier if he continues to hit at his current pace. Only two months ago it was his position to lose.

      I guess we’ll see

      Valle with his third jack today. Has his average up to .313. Would love to see him stay north of .290

    2. I think they want to hold off on bringing Brown up until Utley and Chooch are back. Then he can hit 7th or 8th with no pressure.

    3. And of course he told the truth. First time ever! Really you can’t take that stuff seriously.

  9. You have to start getting excited about May, Valle and Collier. May seems to be winning his battle with the strike zone and Valle is on fire. However, I’m most excited about Collier having 7 hits in 4 games including three 2 hit games. Fingers crossed but this could be the beginning of him reclaiming his status as a legit prospect.

    1. Until Valle starts walking at least an okay rate, I wouldn’t get all that excited.

      Huge red flag.

    2. I have a very different take on all 3 of those players. May’s continued control problems has me leaning towards thinking of him as a back end reliever rather than a starter. As for Valle’s walk rate, when you only have 1 of something, can you even have a rate? Just disconcerting. And while Collier is still someone I keep an eye on, his performance has been ugly.

    3. I am excited about May. His bb/9 is still high (4.4) but it is at least trending in the right direction. His k/9 is better than good at 10.5. Only one homer allowed. He’s 21 and putting up some good numbers, so I think there’s a chance he can improve from here.

      Too early to assign him to the pen, though I know what you’re saying. Though if it were me, I’d rather not have someone with control problems coming out of the pen. The other concern someone (Mike Newman?) brought up before was that he got a lot of strikeouts up in the zone, which won’t work at higher levels. I’d be interested if anyone has any insights on that.

      1. Coming out of the pen just means he only has to focus on 2 pitches, so while in and of itself that doesn’t solve control problems, it allows a pitcher to focus on what he does well.

  10. I think it’s too early to draw conclusions on individual players, just based on one month. The lack of plate discipline on a team level is discouraging. So many players have horrible K/BB ratios that you have to wonder if something is going wrong there.

    The best results have been out of the bullpen. Phillippe Aumont, Drew Carpenter, Antonio Bastardo in particular pitching well.

  11. Joe Savery slugging .297 the last 10 games, with (1) extra base hit. Batting .242 in May (9 games). Seems to be coming back to earth after hitting .800 for the 1st week.

    1. Jonathan Singleton has zero extra base hits in his last ten games either. I wouldn’t put Savery in my top 30 yet but I also wouldn’t denigrate him based on a small sample of performance.

  12. With the current problems scoring at the ML level, maybe Brown will come up within 2 weeks if he continues to hit at LV. Watching the #7 & 8 hitters so often complete failures at bat which has affected the whole lineup. Frandsen will not be playing for 50 games (suspended) which is a blow. Can’t wait to have Chooch back, to be followed by Brown, to be followed by Utley. Agree on the incompetency of the bench other than Mayberry and Gload.

    Hope it gets improved soon.

    1. I’m all for Brown getting called up sooner rather than later so he can begin getting big league at-bats but he will not be a savior for their offensive woes. I really don’t expect he will hit much better than Francisco is right now.

      People really need to temper their expectation about what Dom Brown will do. He’s still rough around the edges.

      1. I don’t expect him to be much better than Francisco right away, either. However, they could both be quite a bit better in a modified platoon. Furthermore, the important thing, as far as I’m concerned is for him to get experience so that, come August, September and the post-season, he is better than Francisco and can provide an extra spark. If he doesn’t come up again until late July, it will make that possibility more remote.

  13. Ooop the other catcher has hamstring. Poor Brian gets a chance and the baseball gods send him a golden thing in a paper bag.

  14. Anyone else very encouraged by Hyatt’s performance thus far this year? Under the radar, but 38 strikeouts in 40 innings is certainly worth some discussion (especially given his rotation mate’s struggles in this department). Too early to anoint him “this year’s Vance Worley” (and that is not damning him with faint praise by any means), but he’s certainly on the right path.

    1. Hyatt’s picked up where he left off last season. He was the Phillies minor league starting pitcher of the year last year and I ranked him 8th on the Phillies starting pitcher depth chart this off season, where he remains, behind Worley and Kendrick, in my eyes.

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