As everyone knows, the Phillies took a late round flier on Kyle Gibson 3 years ago before he went to Missouri, where his career blossomed, including a dynamite showing in the Cape Cod league. Prior to his junior year, he was being viewed as a surefire Top 10 pick, but his velocity reportedly dipped into the mid 80’s in his last start, and its now being reported by BA that he has a stress fracture in his arm and won’t throw for 6 weeks. Last year, if you remember, Tanner Scheppers suffered a similar fate with a stress fracture in his shoulder that eventually saw him slip from a Top 10 pick out of the first round, eventually being taken by the Pirates and going unsigned. Scheppers has come back healthy and is now again being talked about as a top 10 pick, with many teams still waiting to get clearance from their doctors on him.
I’ll have more on Gibson when I finish my mock draft, but at this point I’ll probably drop him out of the top 32. Ideally, I’d love the Phillies to take him at 75 if he gets there, follow him this summer, and if he’s able to throw before the deadline, hopefully sign him for first round money.
very interesting idea. I like the foresight. Great article in the inky today on Gose, Collier and Knapp too!
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PP do you think anyone takes a chance in the first round?
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he worries me unless the phillies think they can fix his delivery.
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/2008/12/11/690144/pitching-mechanics-kyle-gi
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Ive never heard any scout question his delivery, i dont subscribe to many of driveline’s theories
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Per ESPN MLB Draft Blog…
Fort Worth right-hander Aaron Crow or Missouri’s Kyle Gibson? Pittsburgh at No. 4 may be staring down the barrel of this choice next Tuesday. Both are signable, both right-handed, both from the University of Missouri.
“Crow is the better arm,” said one scout who spent the past several weeks in Texas scouting Crow. “Gibson is a little bit safer and you might be able to get him (to sign) for less.”
Gibson’s forearm stiffness that presumably was the cause for his dip in velocity (from the low-90s to the mid-80s) is something clubs are wary of, and could keep some clubs off him unless they see clean medical reports.
Sounds like it is an issue, but if Pittyburgh is still looking at him in the 4 hole, I do not think he will slide out of the first. This is the kind of pick I am hoping the Phillies make, however.
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That was written prior to this news i think
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If that’s true, I am certainly hoping he takes a plunge.
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i’m not a 100% believer of driveline, or chris o’leary, but i certainly think they are right about a good amount of things. and surely the scouting community tends to create a lot of groupthink which results in mark prior and tim lincecum situations. a lot of the ideas they put forth correlate well with injury risk, and when you read that report and look at his injury, it certainly would seem that they have hit onto something(they weren’t looking at an injured player and saying here’s why he’s hurt, it was more of a forward-looking predictive post). i also think there is little chance he drops to the phillies, but i’m in no way anything more than an aggregator of info.
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Congrats Phil you have coined the perfect word “groupthink”.
I have been looking for that word for years. The media’s way of not doing any work. Love it.
e.g. When the Marlins were claiming to lose 20 mil during a championship year. What Wayne did was transfer money(club seat,parking,good,and the corp.boxes ) to the stadium . He cried the blues and the media went a long with it. Groupthink at its finest
BTW its still that way although cable media fees probably went back to the team after years.
“GroupthinK” you made my morning thanks
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neduolcaz One of the things Josh Johnson experienced before
TJS was forearm stiffness
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and…
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You said Gibson had a sore forearm remember
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“Pittysburg” I like that too
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You never heard of the word groupthink?
What does the Marlins crying broke have to do with a Phillies minor league blog. Its criminal the way you hijack every thread on this blog with nonsense.
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Kyle Gibson, the starter from Mizzou that has been projected as high as the second pick by some and is a consensus top ten in most mocks, may see his status fall. Gibson has a stress fracture in his pitching forearm. During his last outing, his velocity was down and many worried there was an elbow problem. A source tells me that Gibson had an MRI that found the stress fracture, but no damage to tendons or ligaments in or near the elbow. Gibson will be shut down for five weeks, but was said to be planning to shut down for a month even prior to the injury.
Kevin Goldstein will continue to follow the action leading into this week’s draft. Baseball America first broke the news of Gibson’s injury just before this report.
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thanks good thing he stopped pitching before his arm broke like that Marlins pitcher (twice) good luck to the young man
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Read that LHP Matt Purke is looking for “Rick Porcello’s deal” in the upcoming draft, according to industry sources.
Is this pitcher that good? I’m not familiar with the HS players.
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Purke is a LH pitcher that mostly gets by with a really nice fastball at the moment. His secondary pitches (curveball, slider, maybe changeup?) are a work in progress. But his FB can touch 94 with good movement. Also has a projectable frame. I think I would much rather have Porcello.
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Anonymous says:
Its criminal the way you hijack every thread on this blog with nonsense.
I don’t want to see this community or nation spend ONE MORE TAXPAYER DOLLAR trying to bring criminal charges against NoWheelsPlease. Any attempt at an indictment will be laughed out of court. It would be JUDICIAL OVERREACH at its worst.
Peace.
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Keith Law thinks Aaron Crow will fall out of the first round, anyone thinks there’s a shot he falls to us???
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