Open Discussion: Week of April 3rd

Here’s the open discussion thread for Phillies’ talk and other topics. 

The Phillies start their season on the road in Cincinnati.  Jeremy Hellickson is scheduled to start.

Organization rosters for all full season teams have been updated from the affiliates’ web sites.  They have been added as a selection on the Rosters selection on the menu.   Transactions though April 2nd are included below.

I did some checking on current minor league roster size limitations.  There have been some changes to the limits I reported from the Major League Rules (2008).  Listed below are the current roster limits by league (from MiLB):

  • Triple-A: International, Pacific Coast — 25 active.
  • Double-A: Eastern, Southern, Texas — 25 active.
  • Class A Advanced: California, Carolina, Florida State — 25 active; 35 under control; no more than two players and one player-coach on active list may have six or more years of prior Minor League service.
  • Class A: Midwest, South Atlantic — 25 active; 35 under control; no more than two players on active list may have five or more years of prior Minor League service.
  • Class A Short-Season: New York-Penn, Northwest — 35 active. No more than three players on the Active List may have four or more years of prior Minor League service.
  • Rookie: Appalachian, Pioneer, Arizona, Gulf Coast leagues — 35 active. No more than three players on the Active List may have three or more years of prior Minor League service.
  • Rookie: Venezuelan Summer, Dominican Summer — 35 active. No player on the Active List may have four or more years of prior Minor League Service. No Draft-eligible player from the U.S. or Canada (not including players from Puerto Rico) may participate in the DSL or VSL.

Prior Week’s Transactions:

  • Phillies
  • 3/28 – Phillies optioned LHP Elvis Araujo to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 3/28 – Phillies optioned RHP Luis Garcia to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 3/28 – Phillies optioned LHP Adam Morgan to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 3/28 – Phillies optioned OF Darnell Sweeney to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 3/28 – Phillies released LHP Lino Martinez.
  • 3/28 – Phillies signed free agent CF Will Venable to a minor league contract and invited him to spring training.
  • 3/29 – Phillies released RHP Edward Mujica.
  • 3/30 – Phillies signed free agent RHP Edward Mujica to a minor league contract.
  • 4/2 – Phillies placed CF Aaron Altherr on the 60-day disabled list. Recovering from March 2016 left wrist surgery.
  • 4/2 – Phillies placed RHP Michael Mariot on the 15-day disabled list retroactive to March 25, 2016. Right ankle strain.
  • 4/2 – Phillies placed LHP Mario Hollands on the 60-day disabled list. Recovering from April 2015 Tommy John surgery.
  • 4/2 – Phillies placed LHP Matt Harrison on the 60-day disabled list. Back injury.
  • 4/2 – Phillies placed LF Cody Asche on the 15-day disabled list retroactive to March 25, 2016. Right oblique strain.
  • 4/2 – Phillies selected the contract of LHP James Russell from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 4/2 – Phillies selected the contract of 2B Emmanuel Burriss from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 4/2 – Phillies selected the contract of LF Cedric Hunter from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • Lehigh Valley
  • 3/29 – Will Venable assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 3/30 – Jeremy Bleich assigned to Phillies Ext. Spring Training from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 3/31 – Gabriel Lino assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 3/31 – Severino Gonzalez assigned to Phillies Ext. Spring Training from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 3/31 – IF Jake Fox assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 3/31 – Valley IronPigs released RHP Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez.
  • 3/31 – Lehigh Valley IronPigs released LHP Edgar Ibarra.
  • 3/31 – Lehigh Valley IronPigs released RHP Greg Burke.
  • 4/2 – Jake Thompson assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs from Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 4/2 – Nick Williams assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs from Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 4/2 – RHP Ernesto Frieri assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 4/2 – C J.P. Arencibia assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 4/2 – Zach Eflin assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs from Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 4/2 – Mark Appel assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs from Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 4/2 – RHP Andrew Bailey assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 4/2 – Andrew Knapp assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs from Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 4/2 – Cam Perkins assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs from Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 4/2 – RHP Edward Mujica assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 4/2 – Brock Stassi assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs from Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 4/2 – Carlos Alonso assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs from Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 4/2 – 2B Ryan Jackson assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 4/2 – RF Christian Marrero assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 4/2 – C Logan Moore assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 4/2 – Alec Asher assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 4/2 – Severino Gonzalez assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Phillies Ext. Spring Training.
  • Reading
  • 4/2 – Jesmuel Valentin assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Clearwater Threshers.
  • 4/2 – Aaron Brown assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Clearwater Threshers.
  • 4/2 – Yacksel Rios assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Clearwater Threshers.
  • 4/2 – LHP Joely Rodriguez assigned to Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 4/2 – Ricardo Pinto assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Clearwater Threshers.
  • 4/2 – Alec Asher assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 4/2 – Nick Pivetta assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from GCL Phillies.
  • 4/2 – Rhys Hoskins assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Clearwater Threshers.
  • 4/2 – Ulises Joaquin assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Clearwater Threshers.
  • 4/2 – Hoby Milner assigned to Williamsport Crosscutters from Reading Fightin Phils.
  • Clearwater
  • 3/31 – Kyle Martin assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Lakewood BlueClaws.
  • 3/31 – Tyler Viza assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Lakewood BlueClaws.
  • 3/31 – RHP Matt Hockenberry assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Lakewood BlueClaws.
  • 3/31 – Will Morris assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Lakewood BlueClaws.
  • 3/31 – Jairo Munoz assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Lakewood BlueClaws.
  • 3/31 – Cord Sandberg assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Lakewood BlueClaws.
  • 4/2 – Clearwater Threshers released LHP Cody Forsythe.
  • 4/2 – Elniery Garcia assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Lakewood BlueClaws.
  • 4/2 – Scott Kingery assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Lakewood BlueClaws.
  • 4/2 – Alberto Tirado assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Clearwater Threshers.
  • Lakewood
  • 3/29 – Lakewood BlueClaws released C Jose Mayorga.
  • 3/31 – Joel Fisher assigned to Williamsport Crosscutters from Lakewood BlueClaws.
  • 3/31 – Lakewood BlueClaws released LF Chase Harris.
  • 4/1 – Samuel Hiciano assigned to Williamsport Crosscutters from Lakewood BlueClaws.
  • 4/2 – Mitch Gueller assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – Lakewood BlueClaws released RHP Calvin Rayburn.
  • 4/2 – Luke Leftwich assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – RHP Harold Arauz assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws.
  • 4/2 – Franklyn Kilome assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – Cornelius Randolph assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from GCL Phillies.
  • 4/2 – Jose Pujols assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – Jan Hernandez assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – Jacob Waguespack assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – Josh Tobias assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – Lakewood BlueClaws placed RHP Drew Anderson on the 7-day disabled list.
  • 4/2 – Austin Bossart assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – Grenny Cumana assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – Brendon Hayden assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – Robert Tasin assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – Jose Taveras assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – Tyler Gilbert assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – Alejandro Arteaga assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – Kenny Koplove assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 4/2 – Lakewood BlueClaws placed LHP Austin Davis on the 7-day disabled list.
  • 4/2 – Lakewood BlueClaws placed LHP Scott Harris on the 7-day disabled list.
  • 4/2 – Zachary Coppola assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • Williamsport
  • 3/28 – Williamsport Crosscutters released RHP Feliberto Sanchez.
  • 3/28 – Williamsport Crosscutters released C Jesus Posso.
  • 3/28 – Williamsport Crosscutters released SS Dylan Bosheers.
  • 3/28 – Williamsport Crosscutters released LHP Andrew Godail.
  • GCL
  • 3/28 – GCL Phillies released 1B Scott Tomassetti.
  • 3/28 – GCL Phillies released LHP Evan Crower.
  • DSL
  • 3/29 – DSL Phillies released RHP Joel Cabrera.

 

124 thoughts on “Open Discussion: Week of April 3rd

  1. If Nick Williams stays in center, I think he will be a 5 win player. Of course he will have to adjust to the pitching, but I don’t recall a rookie hitter looking this good against MLB pitchers in his first spring. Even Franco (who looks like he can be a 5 win player this season) struggled in his first spring. Nick showed everything. Ability to hit with power to all fields. Speed. Contact. Defense. I mean he has been simply awesome. A real game changer at bat. Wow. What a prospect! He will be up in the show this season.

    1. Why couldn’t he be a 5-win player from a corner?
      If his power picks up beyond the projection right now, that could be a possibility
      And I doubt the Phillies will have him in center as long as Quinn and Herrera are still in the system.

    2. He’ll be in LF it appears although I hope they try him in RF. Will his arm play in RF? Randolph is hopefully the future LF and we have several CFs.

      1. Unless C starts hitting like crazy, it’ll be years before he gets up to the bigs. A lot will happen during that time.

  2. That is a great point for discussion. Who, among the current Phils, including prospects, projects as the best Defensive CF? I have thought that it was Quinn, but there is a good deal of Williams sentiment and Altherr has been highly regarded. Doobie did well for his 1st year at the position and Tocci has had a great defensive rep forever.

    1. Watching Tocci and Quinn in these two games, Tocci is way better at this point. He’s a glider like Maddox was, very smooth

    2. matt13……IMO, Herrera, if he can continue hit enough to stay in the lineup, will be the best. Now that AJ Pollock is out for possibly the entire season, he will be a strong candidate for Gold Glove. Buc’s McCutch.and Red’s Hamilton are the two right now, I think, that will be favored.

      1. I agree that Tocci is the best defensive CF we have in the system (that’s a legit prospect). That’s nothing against OH or Quinn but you have to remember both of them are still learning the position. They have both shown the ability to be plus defensive CF but it’s still new to both of them.

  3. Releasing Evan Crower was a bit of a surprise so early in the process of his reclamation to baseball. I thought he would at least get a month or so in the GCL for audition purposes.

  4. I said Nick Williams impressed me this spring and upped my expectations…well, Appel really disappointed me and I am much lower on him after this spring. I am going to say something that is going to get a lot of 1-star votes, but I think he is going to be a bust.

    I guess it is possible that he does major changes, but I think it is going to take several years with him. There is something really wrong with him. It doesn’t seem to be stuff, so maybe it is either command or that he doesn’t hide the ball well. But he doesn’t strike me as a tweak here or there from being a #2 pitcher or even a #3 pitcher. He strikes me as far away from that.

    Hope I am wrong, but that is my first reaction.

    1. I see your point.
      A ‘Luke Hochevar type’ calling may eventually be in the works for him.

  5. Giles isn’t even going to be Houstons closer to start the season. Did he do that bad this spring?

    1. http://m.mlb.com/news/article/170391250/luke-gregerson-to-be-astros-closer

      Says Giles had a 6.75 spring ERA, for whatever that is worth.

      Whe it comes to closers, I am surprised more teams do not go with using their best relief pitchers in high leverage situations. If I know I can use my closer for 1 inning, I would rather use him in the 8th inning against the 3/4/5 in their lineup as opposed to hoping I still have the lead in the 9th (all other variables being the same).

      I get there is the mentality part, but I would suspect that most on the roster could handle the pressure of the 9th.

      1. I couldn’t agree with this more. The concept of the “closer” is so antiqated at this point, i cant wait for the first manager to just not use one at all. It should be completely matchup driven. Its great to have a guy like Giles, but lets say Giles is ur normal closer and the 9th inning goes Lefty, righty, lefty….put out ur lefty then. Or if, as u said, the meat of the order is in teh 8th, throw him in the 8th and either have him go 2 innings or let ur next best guy retire the bottom of the lineup.

    2. Houston’s closer last season had a very good year, except for a certaion playoff game. I assume they are giving him the chance to lose the job..

    3. It’s one thing to close for the worst team in baseball and another to close for a team where the expectations are WS or bust!

  6. Thought id share this too. If anyone has some spare time I would recommend watching the documentary “Fastball” . . . Really interesting doc all about the hardest throwing pitchers in MLB history. Btw if you think the 105 that Chapman threw was the fastest ever, well you’d be incorrect. Apparently Nolan Ryan hit 108.(something) in his career. You’d have to watch the doc to see. Also they have Walter Johnson (who was known as the hardest throwing pitcher of his time) maxed at only 93mph. Again check it out, it’s really interesting.

    Ps 2 fun facts . . . The last fastball that Nolan Ryan ever threw was 98 mph at 46 years old. Insane. I knew this one but that’s only bc I owe a radar gun, the reading from a gun is at the 50ft mark which is basically just after when the ball leaves the pitchers hand. So no one is actually seeing 100mph . . By the time it gets to the hitter it’s closer to 94mph.

  7. Lowest HR total for OFs in last 44 years in Phils’ lineup today. Also, hitters 4-9 look like about a .225 average between them all. Let’s go Nick Willams!

  8. I may have missed this earlier – I did not see that the Phillies had released MAG. I guess wasting $12MM is better than the -gulp – 60MM that he was once rumored to have signed for.

  9. 16 players were not on this team last yr and were still rated 1 of the worst teams. That’s why I said most are interchangeable part’s on this team then last yr. I would liked to seen Goebbel start I like Hunter story but long term Goebbel the Man.

      1. Spell check that’s all Goebbel who else is Development FRANCO, VV, Herrera, Stumpf, Nola, Neris. Really everyone are replacement players.

  10. Did anyone see Moya play third he can pick it really well. Galvis and Hernandez hitting the ball in the air mite be good today. I hope that isn’t the plan for the future .

    1. agree . wasted great start by Hellickson. And we haven’t even uncovered the mystery closer yet. Can’t believe they sent Bailey down.

    2. That’s funny you ask about the 2017 draft. I was thinking the same thing as I watched that bullpen implode. Go to You Tube and watch video of Tanner Houck, Jeren Kendall, Mark Vientos, Alejandro Toral, and Cole Turney to watch possible 1.1 options for 2017.

    1. Seth Beer won’t be available until the 2018 draft. He left HS in December and enrolled early (January) at Clemson. By doing that, he made himself ineligible for this year’s draft. BTW … Brandon McIlwaine (Council Rock North HS) did the same thing by enrolling early at South Carolina (will play both baseball and QB for football team). Keith Law had McIlwaine as a top 30 player in this year’s draft had he stayed in HS.

  11. Between the phillies bp and LV there maybe like 10 released pitcher’s by mid season. Why Roibal , Ramos didn’t make the team is crazy both will be up by the end of may. Sloppy play at the end of the game by Herrera and Hernandez.

  12. Seth Beer really good hitter so far at Clemson . Both Hernandez and Ultey doubled in there first at bat .

  13. Was ay Clemson this weekend, Beer is a stud! 1st smester college student, exudes confidence, kills the fastball, hits with power to all fields. May be draft eligible, not sure on that one. Will be a MLB player, no doubt! Gene Schall was at Saturday ‘s game. He hit a hr, 2b,1b

  14. FYI – sports illustrated has a nice piece in last week’s issue on high school arms and whether they throw too much. There’s quite a bit on Riley Pint (a legit option for our 1/1) that makes him sound like he has a good head on his shoulders and a good plan. He also hit 102!

        1. By the way, I read your comment too quickly. I thought it was a reference to the UConn mens’ team and I see you are talking about the womens’ team. I don’t have anything against those who follow and enjoy womens’ basketball – if you like that more than the mens’ game, more power to you.

            1. rocco…granted they do have the look of a great rotation….but two already have had TJs (Harvey and Wheeler)…one has already had shoulder issues (Matz)…and Thor if he keeps unleashing at the high-90s, could have the UCL issues coming up. And saw that DeGroom’s velo was down in the spring. Pitchers can a be fluid situation.

  15. Welcome to Philly baseball 2016. Let’s see: Great start for Helly. No finish from the bullpen. Howard being Howard. The OF was 0 – 11 with 5 Ks and an error. The offense ceased in the 2nd inning. Oh, and I almost forgot, 1st Philly HR of the year goes to Galvis.

    It’s way too early for frustration but this is all there is and their ain’t no more.

    1. All in all you want them if they are going to lose to have it against teams they will be competing against in 2017’s draft.

      It actually was the perfect game. Hellickson looked great for 6 IP.

      1. DMAR..agree…if Hellickson and Morton pitch quality games in both their next 15/17 starts…..they will be somewhat attractive trade chips in July….even if it is for return of international bonus monies to add to the number one allocation now.

      2. Why only 79 pitches and 6 innings? The bullpen is horrible and Hellickson was pitching well.

        1. Still early I assume….after 2/3 more starts, Mack/McClure will probably let them go to 100 PC.

        2. David Hernandez was horrible as his ERA of infinity shows. He is hurt or just not ready as he is looking like a 4 million dollar waste of money.

  16. Tim – If the bullpen has problems there will be changes made. Roibal and Ramos have not pitched at AAA and spring training was just to get them so experience. You want to start the year with some experience, and you want to play players where they can get some experience and confidence and then move them up and give them a chance.

    1. Come on wayne I said it last week this bullpen stinks, Adding Roibal wont help. This will be a long year. unless we start seeing some of the kids. Then I wont mind it.

      1. Roccom the Nasty boys retired other then the Ramos and Roibal there’s not much help.there are some pretty good in the lower levels there a yr away. Did you notice the Reds rebuild they have 2 Cuban they signed.

    2. I know but there in Reading which they should be in LV. all the vets the Phillies sign that can’t pitch in the majors are in LV. Bailey is the only I’d like to see make it.Riobal and Ramos are older 24,23 I believe Roibal was hitting 94 up here and had a good yr last yr.I thought Giles and Diekman both jumped LV . I said before between the Phillies and LV there ‘s probably be like 10 players released . The Russell of Mlb don’t last to long. Neris , Stumpf, O I call him and Gomez are good or young .

    1. Phillies Bonus Slot Values, but highly doubt they will trade any of their slotting values.
      But the penalized teams will be looking to trade their ‘surplus’ slotted money, to grab some more advanced prospects or MLB players.
      Slot 1………..$3.75M
      Slot 2(31)…….$.54M
      Slot 3(61)……..$.36M
      Slot 4(91)………$.24M

    1. v1…so if you take first-rounder C.Randolph as a hypothetical example……his second full season…2017…he should be at least in CLW if his projection goes by how BA has it set up for the impactful MLB player. And if he really progresses then Reading would be the stop, I assume possibly after a mid-season promo from CLW.
      The article does not allude to the mid-season promotion aspect..

    1. I just seen that Giles spent 10 ings in LV , Diekman spent 26. Roibal isn’t in there class but should be up my may. Wathan said today that he needs to get Ramos some ings late in games. There’ also Windle ,Rivero that could be on the short track.

  17. Phillies sold Chris Loroux to Blue Jays from extended Spring Training. Jeremy Bleich moved from extended Spring Training to Reading to replace Roibal.

  18. The Phillies imo have hit rock bottom, Putting Jim Thome on the wall is a disgrace he is a Cleveland indian. not a Phillies guy. Are they that hard up to find someone who deserves the honor. Or is the honor nothing but who will put people in the seats?

    1. rocco….but those little less than three years with the Phillies, Thome really raked to the tune of an 8WAR. Maybe they should give him half a plaque on the wall?

    2. I wouldn’t call it a “disgrace”, but I agree, Thome doesn’t meet the bar to make the wall. I like they guy and he had a few good years with the Phillies, but three years simply doesn’t cut it. In the big scheme, Thome is a Cleveland Indian, not a Phillie.

    1. So then i’d assume that you don’t think Roy Halladay or Cliff Lee deserve to be on the wall either? just a question

      1. I Don’t think as good as he was for two season that halladay is a wall of fame guy. I just think you make the honor cheaper by putting up guys who only played a short time here. Just my opinion

  19. According to Andy MacPhail., the Phillies, with their new FO and their current savings in payroll, have redirected a large pot of money to 6 new initiatives.
    1. Increase in the amateur scouting staff
    2. Expanded use of analytics
    3 The addition of strength and conditioning personnel in the minor leagues
    4. New initiatives dedicated to better nutrition for minor leaguers
    5. New technologies dedicated to helping a player’s performance
    6. Construction of a new developmental academy in the Dominican Republic.

    1. A number of those initiatives appear to not require large sums to implement. I’m thinking mostly of #2 and #4, and perhaps #3 as well. Certainly #5 seems like a sizable investment, and #1 depends on the scope of the increase (I hope the scouting staff increase is significant).

      I don’t know what #5 really means.

      Overall, this is good to see from the Phillies, and some of these are long overdue.

      1. Number 2…..PHILS was bought on-line around the new year and understand hiring more FTE’s for the department.
        Number 5……saw one thing of the indoor video system installed thru-out the Carpenter Complex that will record cage work from all cages ,,,both pitching and hitting.. and players sit with instructors to analyze their performances. I think Larry Bowa was talking about that on a video he narrated. I guess there are other things along those lines. Not sure about the facilities at LKW and Williamspsort.
        But they are doing it…should I say… the Phillies Way!

  20. I’m just going to repost this here …
    Go to You Tube and watch video of Tanner Houck, Jeren Kendall, Mark Vientos, Alejandro Toral, and Cole Turney to watch possible 1.1 options for 2017.

  21. Phillies lose again , Hinkle steps down , it could be worse we could be the Padres.at this time there being out scored 23 0 in three games to the Dodgers. The last run was a Meada home run . very early comeback player of the yr Chase Ultey Mr leadoff .333 double ,triple 2 runs 2 rbi’s.

      1. v1…..since it seems, the consensus on this board has Jason Groome selected as the 1.1 in June, .is it too early to start to talk about the Rule 4 2017 1.1?

    1. ironically, just a couple of years ago we were talking about all of the BP arms the Phillies had in the upper minors and how that was the one area where they were in good shape.

      Change happens fast…

      1. The McPhail/Klentak team really did a terrible job on getting relievers this offseason as losses like the last two can really kill a teams morale. Scoring two runs a game will not do it also. Glad the Allentown and Reading teams get started soon.

  22. Phila so do we fire McPhail /Klentak. I believe they didn’t want to spend too much this year on bullpen arms. We all know this season is us playing and waiting for the kids to get better and separate themselves from prospects to non prospects. Then you start to fill in the pieces. Plus its only two games. I Said I think this bullpen is bad from spring training. but I also realize this year is development. So I will be patient..

    1. Ha you know Abe Lincoln said “give me 6 hours to cut down a tree and I’ll spend the first 4 sharpening the blade”

      1. Dmar didn’t you go to college? It wasn’t Abe Lincoln who said that. It was Dr. abe Romus Professor at Albright college in 1928

          1. ha goodfellas is an ATF for me…

            Yes Rocco I went for a couple of years and got bored. Did a stint in the AF then found my way into the magical world of marketing. I have a handful of really cool clients that call me their CMO!

            My next undertaking will be to sell you as the face of PP!

    2. No but they could have spent some money on some experienced/competent late inning relievers. I am not against playing the young players but when you have a chance to win the game you need to win those games. My fear with the late inning losses is that it could damage the morale of the Phillies young players if the situation does not improve.

  23. Wow!, Morton and Stumpf lit up today. No closer worries for today’s game. Losing all 3 to one of the other worst teams in Baseball is not a great way to start.

    1. Think of the positives…..if the Phillies lose one game on the weekend of May13-15 with the Reds at the Bank, and they end up in a tie with the Reds for the worst record….the Phillies win the tie breaker, and get the better pick in the draft.

  24. Well, it was questionable coming into the season between us, Atlanta, Cinci and the Brewers. We certainly staked our claim so far.

  25. Why is a team this bad playing bourjos. he has no clue how to hit. Bring up Williams. What is the harm. I rather lose with kids who have a chance to be good. then the slop they are running out there.

    1. Harm is that he’s not ready yet and get overwhelmed by being dominated. Other than to appease an impatient fan base, what is the benefit of bringing up players who aren’t ready…

        1. Agree with you to a point but it takes a real confident kid to be able to struggle mightly and not have it affect them.

  26. Doobie is off to a slow start, and committed another error, and Goeddel seems a bit overmatched. Not a great OF all around. The hitting stars today were Chooch, Ryan and Hunter. What a shame that Altherr got hurt. I don’t think even a scorching start for Williams gets him up before June.

    1. Your most likely right about Williams. I just rather see the young kids learn here. then watch stiffs. but I know I might be the only one

      1. No, you’re not the only one. The only concern is bringing up a player before he is ready. Once they’re ready, they should be up here and getting playing time.

        Speaking of playing time, as much as I love Chooch, I’ll be disappointed if Rupp does not get a real chance to establish himself. Right now, he should be getting at least 75% of the playing time until he proves he can’t cut it. And I feel the same about Ryan Howard – Ruf, for all his limitations and age, should be taking at least some (in my view, at least half) of the righty pitcher at bats away from Howard.

  27. By the way, after going down to ST, I’ve now been able to watch live or on tape the two futures games. For the most part, I’ve been pretty impressed with the young position players.

    As for the very young pitching (aside from Nola, who’s already an established big leaguer and is great), it’s been mixed. Eflin and Appel have great arms, but struggle with both command and grooving straight fastballs. They are unknowns who could develop quickly, slowly or not at all.

    I was not, however, particularly impressed with Thompson, at least in the game I saw. Yeah, he was fine, but I didn’t see more than that. He looked like a slightly better version of Joe Blanton (at best, a solid 3, more likely a 4) during the Futures game, with a decent assortment of pitches, but a FB that sat 89-91, touching 92, which, as everyone knows, is about average velocity. Now, it’s one game and perhaps he will show a lot more going forward (perhaps he was holding back on the FB and maybe he can develop a killer breaking pitch), but nothing he did in that game made you think he was anything special. But it also makes you appreciate Vincent Velasquez all the more. I’m not sure he’s a future ace (as with Nola, it’s possible), but he looks like a 2 or a strong 3 – he was a GREAT pick-up for a relief pitcher.

  28. Well, Lehigh Valley just dropped a DH (although Adam Morgan pitched great with a lot of Ks – which is a huge development and may signal that he is getting close to what he was before) and the Phils are losing to the Mets. If that happens the big league team and the minor league teams will start the year a combined 0-9. I don’t care about what the big league team does for now, but I do care about how the young players in both the majors and minors fare.

  29. De groom taken out because of tight lap . Was hitting 92 with movement had good off speed pitches . Man Mackanin is really looks for punishment using Russell , Hernandez, etc . Franco not in line up after being hit ?

  30. Infield fly rule who doesn’t know it, that should be benched. Galvis dropping a sure DP ball didn’t help. Both Galvis and Hernandez aren’t rookies , Herrera didn’t go back out there after the bat flip aka ball 3 . I don’t think Herrera was doing that to show up the Ump but it didn’t look good. Mackanin said fundamentals is very important and they Practice them. When the game is on they don’t show up. When Nola , Eickhoff , VV pitch you want to see good defense and a productive bp.

  31. I just wondering is anyone concern with the new gm and President of this team. These men will be drafting the future of this team. I don’t know how much I trust them, after seeing how bad of a bullpen they put together.

  32. The bullpen was signed they did well in the draft last yr.the trades were good too do you want the first base coach from Boston Red Sox back ?

    1. Valazquez looks amazing tonight. FB has near plus velocity, plus movement and flashing plus command – on the whole it’s a clear plus pitch. Breaking pitches are all very encouraging – often devastating. Has great mound presence.’ Looks like a real stud.

    2. What the hell?? Anyone have anymore info on Pullin? That’s a shocker. Hopefully Hiciano can get back on track quickly. He seems like he had some promise before he was injured but losing a whole years development for non elite prospects can often put them behind the eight ball.

  33. VV can flat out pitch wow now that’s impressive. Galvis isn’t a lead off guy his bunt was really bad . C Herandez I don’t what’s going on with him either he makes a bad mistake in the Field or running the bases. Howard ty God he still hit the the hr he’s A DH playing first. Wierd thing the OF defense was improve for the young pitchers but the infield witch was rated last wasn’t touched. Is D Hernandez to Mackanin what De Fratus was to Sandberg. Mackanin used him now 4 times in 5 games.

Comments are closed.