PhuturePhillies Reader Top 30 (40) Poll for #35

Rhys Hoskins takes the 34th prospect slot in our poll.  He received 37 of 165 votes (22%).  Willians Astudillo finished a close second with 23 votes.

The current poll’s selections so far are listed below.  I’ll start the sleeper pick column sometime this the next week.

  1. J.P. Crawford
  2. Aaron Nola
  3. Maikel Franco
  4. Roman Quinn
  5. Zach Eflin
  6. Ben Lively
  7. Jesse Biddle
  8. Kelly Dugan
  9. Tom Windle
  10. Yoel Mecias
  11. Deivi Grullon
  12. Matt Imhof
  13. Dylan Cozens
  14. Carlos Tocci
  15. Odubel Herrera
  16. Aaron Altherr
  17. Aaron Brown
  18. Franklyn Kilome
  19. Victor Arano
  20. Andrew Knapp
  21. Zach Green
  22. Severino Gonzalez
  23. Cord Sandberg
  24. Jesmuel Valentin
  25. Ricardo Pinto
  26. Luis Encarnacion
  27. Cameron Perkins
  28. Jose Pujols
  29. Andrew Pullin
  30. Tommy Joseph
  31. Nefi Ogando
  32. Jiandido Tromp
  33. Joely Rodriguez
  34. Rhys Hoskins

The poll for #35 is up next.  Added Lewis Alezones as requested and Brad Pointer ’cause he’s a champion.

33 thoughts on “PhuturePhillies Reader Top 30 (40) Poll for #35

  1. Thanks Jim for adding Alezones. You had a first hand view of that pitching staff in the GCL. How does their rookie ball season translate to Williamsport? The pitchers the Phillies have signed that are coming to GCL this year promise a treat also. We are getting good. I realize it is rookie ball, but they certainly look good.

    1. Thirty-five pitchers threw an inning or more for the GCL Phillies. So, I’ll just consider the 6 starters – Lewis Alezones (4 GS), Elniery Garcia (4), Denton Keys (7), Franklyn Kilome (8), Sam McWilliams (5), Luis Morales (9).

      Morales almost certainly moves up. He’s been with the Phillies since 2010. I remember him throwing a low 90s fastball, kinda straight though, little movement.

      I think McWilliams repeats the GCL. He was the #8 pick in the 2014 Draft, the only high school player the Phillies took in the top 10, and the only high school player they signed. His fastball the one time I actually saw a gun on him was 86-87. He has a tall lanky, frame that looks likely to add weight. He probably benefits from another year of instruction at that Complex.

      Garcia just turned 20 and after 3 years in the organization is ready to move up. His fastball has reached 90-91. He began the season in Williamsport’s pen in 2014 before returning to the GCL. I recall a nasty secondary pitch that the lefty used as an out pitch and put up 8.0 K/9 and 1.4 BB/9. However, teams hit hit at .250 or better at every stop during his career. Maybe the bullpen is in his future.

      Keys pitched well in XST. I was surprised when he didn’t make the Williamsport roster in 2014. Then I realized that he was a high school draft pick from the 2013 draft class. He continued to pitch well in the GCL. I’m pretty sure he’s starting in Williamsport in 2015.

      Kilome turns 20 in June and has one season of pro ball on his resume, although a pretty good season. He throws his fastball in the 90-92 mph range and keeps the ball down. With just the one year under his belt, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him start off in the GCL.

      Alezones just turned 19. He had a big year in his second pro season. I don’t have any velo on him, but he looked good in 6-inning, two-hitter he threw on August 23rd. He retired 15 in a row after a leadoff double. I can see him starting in Williamsport.

  2. I don’t understand the lack of love for NerThe guy was good last summer, fine in his brief ML appearance for Phils, and outstanding in winter league. He should have good shot at BP slot this year.

    1. I like Neris, but the problem is he doesn’t seem like a high-leverage guy to evaluators. He can change all of that if he is successful in high-leverage situations, but until he does, the prevailing opinion will continue to drive his value down.

      1. his stuff really went up a tick last year… i see upside in his athletic look and potential to be a grunt out there for us

    1. I agree he’s in this neighborhood, and watching what he does in CLR this year is going to be interesting. He could be a top 20-25 guy next year if he thrives, and his low-ish ceiling would be all that’s holding him back at that point.

        1. His stuff would have to improve for him to be Top 10. College pitchers should do well in single-A, even high-A. And of course, CLW is a pitchers’ park.

      1. Do you know Walding personally? I mean, the early scouting reports were good and he had a nice month and a half last year (and some horrible months too), but he has shown very little thus far at the plate. He could always bust out I suppose, but so far, he’s another Travis Mattair. When a guy gets through three minor league season without having a single above average season, I pretty much write him off as the odds of him suddenly “getting it” would appear to be extremely low. I’m not trying to pick on Walding, mind you, and I hope he becomes a star. I’m just telling you that, statistically, there’s not a lot to be excited about here.

      2. I will give you this much sandusky…the scouts rave about Walding’s practice swing… very smooth and silky.

        1. Walding is one of those”toolsy” high school players who was paid a lot of money (800,000) before the CBA(5th round) under the Woelver era with the hopes that his raw abilities would all come together. Same draft year as our 1st round pick Larry Greene, who like Walding has been able to put together a single respectable season in low A ball. Our two highest paid picks in 2011 have not done anything since being drafted to get excited about or show any promise.

    2. I don’t think that’s right. Off the top of my head, Ranger Suarez had a better HR/9 and WHIP than Leibrandt last year.

      Leibrandt’s numbers last year are basically meaningless anyway. He was facing younger competition where he could get by with a 84-88 MPH fastball. He’ll probably have a nice year statistically in Clearwater this season too before stalling out in AA.

      There’s a chance he could add velocity, although he’s already 22 so it’s unlikely. But if he’s 84-88 with his fastball, he’s a non-prospect.

  3. Elniery Garcia. BP has him ranked #9, MattWinks has him #15, and FanGraphs has him #22. These people know more than most of us here. I am going with them.

    1. That’s how I fee also. BP and Fangraphs have abundant of more reliable information.
      What was BA’s take on Garcia?

      1. BA had Elniery Garcia at #30, prior to the 3 pitchers we got in trade whom they slotted into the top 10 on revision. So Garcia is now #33 for BA. I have a hard time ranking the GCL projection guys who need to develop velocity as their bodies develop and whose secondary stuff is wholly works in progress.

    2. Totally agree. I’m surprised he’s lasted this long. He clearly the most highly regarded guy left on the bard.

    1. I’m surprised that either has gotten any votes, since they’ve both been here long enough to show something and haven’t. Neither is a case of waiting for physical maturity, so I just don’t see it. I admit, if forced to bet on one of them, I’d choose Gueller, but I won’t vote either into top 40.

  4. I went Araujo for the second week. but Garcia and Alastre have consideration for me because in general im a sucker for upside.

  5. I went with Hiciano. I like his potential and think this is a good spot for him on the list. Although I really cant argue with any of Liebrandt, Gamboa, Alezones, Garcia, or Oliver at this point. It’s really down to personal preference now.

  6. Im still upset that its a top 30 (40)…its like driving down the street and seeing that McDonalds added a third arch.

  7. Though he is not listed in the top 30 this year or even a candidate on the above list, good news to hear Shane Watson has begun throwing again on Friday and will throw again today and tomorrow and take a day off and keep to the two-on and one- day off regiment for awhile and also to the conditioning exercises required to get him back to full health..
    I hope he can rebound and his shoulder holds up….that will be a shot in the arm for the organization’s pitching prospects.

  8. I am hopeful that both Watson and Adam Morgan show they are healthy and get through the season in good physical shape. With good health, they both add to the Pitching depth in a significant way. I think the Phils are due for some good fortune, and I like both of those guys.

    1. I’ll admit to little optimism to either of them. Thus far Morgan strikes me as following the Savery recovery trajectory from shoulder surgery with Watson behind that.

  9. Chris Oliver. Better stuff//higher ceiling/higher draft pick than Liebrandt, closer to the majors than any of the various teenagers that are still available on the list. I wouldn’t be brokenhearted to see Garcia here either, it’s strange that he gets so little love when Pinto and Kilome, who are at a similar level developmentally, both went far higher.

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