PhuturePhillies Reader Top 30 Poll for #27

Luis Encarnacion edges Cameron Perkins and Jose Pujols by one vote to become the #26 prospect.  Encarnacion received 25 of 212 votes cast (12%).  Perkins and Pujols each received 24 votes, while Nefi Ogando received 23 votes.  I had to keep the poll open until midnight to have the tie broken.

The current poll’s selections so far are listed below.

  1. J.P. Crawford
  2. Aaron Nola
  3. Maikel Franco
  4. Roman Quinn
  5. Zach Eflin
  6. Ben Lively
  7. Jesse Biddle
  8. Kelly Dugan
  9. Tom Windle
  10. Yoel Mecias
  11. Deivi Grullon
  12. Matt Imhof
  13. Dylan Cozens
  14. Carlos Tocci
  15. Odubel Herrera
  16. Aaron Altherr
  17. Aaron Brown
  18. Franklyn Kilome
  19. Victor Arano
  20. Andrew Knapp
  21. Zach Green
  22. Severino Gonzalez
  23. Cord Sandberg
  24. Jesmuel Valentin
  25. Ricardo Pinto
  26. Luis Encarnacion

The poll for #26 is up next.

46 thoughts on “PhuturePhillies Reader Top 30 Poll for #27

    1. If you like power, you should vote for Hoskins’ teammate from last year, Tromp. Tromp hit 14 HRs compared to Hoskins with 9. Tromp had a higher batting average, more SBs, and played a harder defensive position. Tromp is also 6 months younger than Hoskins. I don’t know why anyone would prefer Hoskins to Tromp.

  1. Rhys will be somewhere in between Matt Rizzotti and Darin Ruf. No bat speed. K machine. Slow feet. But he can get a hold of one once every 20 ABs. Check out his NCAA numbers. Nothing impressive.

  2. BTW, there are some players receiving votes that I never see mentioned in the comments. Would love to hear from supporters of constant vote-getters like

    Tyler Viza
    Drew Anderson
    Chris Oliver

    Don’t think these are “joke” votes, as they constantly receive a few votes each round.

    1. Viza has good stuff, and was pushed into a league that was a challenge to his skills. He took the ball every turn and showed he was a “work horse”. He will repeat low A this year and will still be young for this level. They wanted to see what he had and he showed them he had perseverance. He is in a learning mode.
      Anderson has really good stuff. He hurt his arm and is coming back from that. those who vote for him remember how effective he was before the injury.
      Oliver came out of the SEC with high scouting marks. He was obviously exhausted last year. Hopefully, he is rested and ready to go. He’ll have to be as a college player, who has in fact lost his first year of professional ball.

      1. Have you ever seen Viza pitch? I don’t mean to be snarky. I am genuinely asking. I have seen him pitch 3 times. He broke 90 on maybe 2 pitches. Mostly sat 86-88. Even his outs were hard it. Rarely got swim an misses. I did not see him flash an elite pitch one time.

        So I am curious on why you say he has “good stuff.” Where did you read that?

        1. Hopefully, they were working with him on his on delivery, grip, arm slot, something. They thought highly enough of him to sign him to a $160K bonus out of HS.

        1. Let’s give him a chance to mess it up first. Colvin had great potential for a few years, and then we realized he didn’t have enough control. I don’t want to overrate Oliver, but he could jump to the forefront with a solid season.

    2. Fritz, I don’t have any other them on my poll and I’m through #38. Chris Oliver is an interesting choice. He was a 4th round pick who people thought would move quickly. But looking at his stats in year 1, I’m hoping he had some kind of injury. He averaged 12.9 BB/9 and only 3.9 K/9 in Williamsport.

      I like Tyler Viza on perseverance alone. They trotted, the then 19 year old, out every 5th day in Lakewood to take his lumps. 17 losses is scary but the kid kept at it. When I was in the 9th grade, my coach sent me out to pitch batting practice to the Varsity nearly every day. I asked him why I was the guy to do it. He said, “repetition and arm strength.” Viza pitched 126 innings so repetition was achieved and maybe added some arm strength. Or maybe the minor league staff is just mean.

      1. Actually I take the fact that the Phils pushed Viza to LWood and left him there all season as a good sign that maybe they think he has something.

  3. I chose Pullin. He has power and can hit. He is learning second base and done OK. He has time and I have hopes for him to have a breakout year.

    1. I like Pullin but he might have to start the year back at CWater which would be very bad for his future. Valentin passed him and that hurts Pullin’s status a lot.

  4. ToJo. This list is all about the “ifs”. If the power emerges, If the the arm strength is there, if they can tick up there fastball 1 or 2 mph. ToJo was one of the top prospects in SF when he was traded to the Phils and many on this board were very excited about him as a top catching prospect. Here is the big “if”. If he stays healthy, stays at catcher and puts it all together this year, shouldn’t he be considered a top 10 prospect? Him being out of the top 30 is a head scratcher.

    1. And unfortunately what are the odds of him staying healthy for an entre season? Will he even be ready to start the season?

    2. If he does all of that stuff, he will easily jump back up the list. Top 10 is a bit presumptuous for me, seeing as a concussion history is not something that goes away like a lat strain or even something like a TJ surgery. I’d say concussion history for a catcher (more than 1/missing significant time) is about as big a red flag as a pitcher with a shoulder surgery.

    3. I was going to push ToJo until I read about his slow recovery from wrist surgery. Top ten easily if he’s a healthy catcher.

  5. I voted Joely Rodgriguez, who apparently has become the totally forgotten trade pick up. Reportedly the Phillies scouts love the guy. Interestingly, he has only 6 votes and is tied with Hector Neris who is featured by a reporter this morning as a guy with a decent shot to be in the Phillies pen this year.

    1. I think comping guys on our poll this low is a challenge because so many people voting for guys at the top will have strong opinions on someone like Joely over Neris, for instance, (not saying Joely would get all of those votes, could flip the other way). Sometimes those will quickly push one guy over another.

      Cool that we’re apparently going to 40 this year. I’m a fan of seeing how people value the next 10 guys.

  6. Went with Garcia here. BP had him at #9 before the offseason trades. Matt Winks has him at #15. The way the voting is going here, he might not make our top 40. Seems like we’re a bit too low on him.

    1. Even the better write-ups on him don’t sound as exciting as where he’s ranked, and leave me thinking there’s a lot of risk. I also think he’s getting too many points just for being a lefty. I have him at 32.

    1. At best, it’s inconsistent with his 2014 analysis of the system. If he liked this system so much last year, it’s hard to see why he’s so down on it now. He seems to like Nola, so I don’t really get it, even if he thinks Franco is not good.

      2014 + Nola – Franco = still close to the same system, IMO, even ignoring everything else.

      1. He mentioned the Rollins’ trade. made no reference to the Byrd deal, but he’s not going to press or anything, just posting online, so I would guess he’s including Lively as well.

  7. They took some more polished , college players–which he has critcized them for not doing in the past–and fall 11 slots. Doesn’t make sense

    1. I assume it has to do a lot with the disappointments (so far) of the 2013 draft; Law was a big fan of it at the time. In the top 8 picks after Crawford, we have Knapp, who hasn’t impressed, Wetzler and Monda, who didn’t sign, Jan Hernandez, Trey Williams and Jake Sweaney, who have really struggled, and Sandberg who has also struggled, but not to the extent of the previous three guys mentioned.

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