Box Score Recap – 7/25/2014

Lehigh Valley lost a slugfest, with Cesar Hernandez a homer short of the cycle. Maikel Franco and Leandro Castro had two hit a piece. Hector Neris has put up five straight scoreless appearances. He’s had a handful of absolute trainwrecks at AAA, so a nice long stretch of scoreless would be nice. Reading managed just three hits and a walk off of Akron pitching. If it seems like Roman Quinn’s been walking a lot lately, it’s because he’s been walking a lot lately. Five straight games. His BB rate is spiking near 9% now. Notched his 15th steal as well, and four games in a row with one steal, and six steals in his last eight games. Nice to see. JP Crawford OPSing .875 in his last ten games. Also nice. Aaron Nola gave up one run on five hits, a walk and four strikeouts – the walk was his first free pass since his debut, 32 days earlier.

Tocci, Green, Astudillo and Greene with two hits a piece for Lakewood. Back-to-back days of two hits for Tocci and Green. In his eight starts, Yacksel Rios has struck out just 26 and walked 20 in 40.2 IP. That’s not great. It was 32:12 in 38 relief innings to start the year. You’d have to think he’ll eventually wind up back in the pen if he can’t improve on those K numbers when he’s stretched out.

Williamsport managed just two hits, though they had four walks, so not as bad as it sounds at first glance.  Still bad though. Mahoning Valley starter Kieran Lovegrove pitched and whatever , but dang, that’s a pretty fine name. I called it an 80 on Twitter, but that was probably generous by a grade.

And a couple DSL notes – Bryan Martelo was 2-3 plus a walk. He’s having a rough go of it in his pro debut. And 17 year-old RHP Adonis Medina has been carving up DSL hitters in his couple of outings – he’s allowed eight hits, struck out 12 and walked just one in 10 innings. Call that a name to watch.

Here’s the affiliate Scoreboard from MiLB.


41 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 7/25/2014

  1. Havent seen Tocci’s average this high since ‘nam. Really excited he seems to be on his first hot streak in over a year.

    1. He was making fun of the Vietnam War? I thought he was just making a rather random, unfunny reference to it…

    2. why are you allowed to make fun of Vietnam War on this Site? but then when you call someone out for doing so the erase what you wrote ? You just lost a reader

      1. I don’t know what you said that got deleted, (wasn’t me) but I’m really unclear how what he said was making fun of the Vietnam War. I took that to mean it’s been a very long time since he’s seen Tocci’s average that high. Since Vietnam was a long time ago. Am I wrong? How did that offend you?

  2. While a majority of his hits have been singles (74 of 96), I think its huge for his confidence just to see the ba rise as well as the ability to stay at the top of the lineup. I have no problem with a cf that only hits infield singles and down the line doubles/triples. If Ben Revere had an arm in center like Tocci does, no one would complain about him. I would gladly take Tocci to turn out to be ben revere, plus the arm. Valuable leadoff hitter.

    1. Sounds more like a number 8 hitter. Leadoff hitter has to have some power to be able to draw walks like Dykstra.

      1. That was me. A .300 batting average with a .320 OBP doesn’t cut it at the lead off position.

        1. A 300 batting average with an OBP of 320 doesn’t cut it, you are right, but I think those numbers will improve as his strength comes along. Tocci could be a 4 tool cf which would be pretty valuable, and IMO could sit at the top of the order as he matures from an 18 yr old in minors to a man in the majors.

          1. Yeah that is the theory but, when does this guy get stronger. I know a bunch of people his age and younger that are really really strong. Im not sure Tocci ever gains strength without a serious strength program and somehow I imagine the phillies being stuck in the dark ages doing squat thrusts while holding one large dumbell over there head to get stronger

            1. He seems to have gotten stronger since last year. He’s added a little weight and he’s getting more XBHs. It’s not all going to happen at once.

            2. It’s definitely not that easy. There’s a reason guys used steroids when they could — it’s hard to keep weight on playing baseball every day. Most players lose muscle over the course of a season just from wearing down.

              It’s not like Tocci can hit the gym 5x per week during the season. He wouldn’t be able to recover properly. And in the offseason you have to regain the weight you lost over the season before you can begin gaining more.

              This is a slow process, but he’s gotten stronger every year. If he keeps it up, he could develop decent gap power (say .120 ISO).

        2. He’s a long way away from being a .300 hitter in the major leagues …. so obviously all of this is enormously speculative (FWIW, I think it is highly unlikely his BA will be that high). And we don’t know if he’ll develop a little power. But even if he doesn’t, even if he only walks about 5% of the time (very achievable even for a guy without power), if he DID bat .300 his OBP would be closer to .350.

          Definitely not saying he will get there – really this comment is more about the math than the player. Not sure there has ever been a player who has batted .300 over a sustained sample with an OBP only 20 points higher. It’s basically impossible.

          1. Ben Revere is at .295/.315 right now over 346 PA’s. Not saying that’s a sustained sample, just interesting.

            More interesting is so far in his career the gap between his BA and OBP has gotten smaller year to year. .43 difference in 2011, .39 in 2012, .33 last year, and the .20 this year. Wonder if that’s a change he made, or if he was encouraged to be more aggressive?

  3. Hey it would be neat if we could get an update on 2014 draft class of which level they are at and how they are doing.

    1. the top 5 or 6 guys are easily found and I think most of us have been tracking them but I think you are right it would be cool to have a list

  4. Kieran Lovegrove is pretty good, but I think the name of the day has to go to Akron starter Duke von Schamann.

  5. With the trade of Jake Peavy and the return the Red Sox got for him, you have to wonder what could be had for Hamels. Heck even AJ Burnett should get a nice return considering he’s pitched better then Peavy and also has less money on his contract, Peavy even has a 15m option for next year, player option at that. I’d gladly take a teams number 2 prospects and number 11 for him (Thats what the Red Sox got)

    1. Yeah but the Red Sox have a smart front office, Rube and company are out there looking for a bag of balls and the map to Deleons wishing well

      1. Wrong- no one will trade with Amaro because no one wants to see a moron get the better. No one will risk it- guaranteed.

          1. Everyone needs to understand that what he is saying is correct. No good trade will ever happen, EVER, because no GM in baseball wants to get taken by a fool like Amaro.

            Also what’s funny about Amaro destroying the Phils?

        1. He is 100% right- Amaro does suck and he will never pull off a good trade because no one wants to be the sucker and get played by an idiot like Amaro.

    2. Peavy will not pitch enough innings to get option for 2015 and will be free agent, so that makes him more valuable as trade chip. Pirates may take Burnett but want him to agree to not exercise 2015 option

    3. Well according to Some, Hamels might get you a low a prospects and a relief pitching, No one wants his contract’

      1. Hamels gets you a good haul, however, maybe not the other team’s 3 best prospects. What is sufficient for him is the big question, or maybe 2d biggest, after who do you want deciding on what is a good return.

        1. Dodgers (Seager, Urias, Pederson) or Red Sox (Owens, Betts) could get by with just two top prospects at the head of the deal.

      2. Why would no one want his contract? Pitchers of Hamels’ caliber are getting six and seven year contracts in the free agent market, and will likely be getting more money per year. Hamels at $22.5 million and four years would be a great contract to have moving forward.

        I think a lot of people are underestimating how valuable his contract actually is. I hear a lot of people arguing that it’s fair market value, so why would you trade assets (prospects) for something you can purchase in free agency? That argument makes sense for a 2 WAR pitcher, because they’re a dime a dozen on the free agent market (easy to purchase). It’s doesn’t make sense when you’re talking about a 4 WAR pitcher.

        A 4 WAR pitcher is a rarer commodity. Who’s available this free agency at a 4 WAR level? Jon Lester, who will likely get in the range 6 or 7 years at $20-25 million per. And there’s no guarantee you will be able to sign that player in the free agent market because there are other teams competing for his services. It’s not like you can make a run at Lester and then move on to the next pitcher in line, because there aren’t any at that level, especially those with the track record of Hamels or Lester.

        With Hamels, you get cost certainty for a rare commodity at good value and for a good number of years. Right now, the Phillies have possession of that valuable asset. To pry that away from them, a team should have to give up some form of their valuable assets (which in the case of the Red Sox or Dodgers, would be their prospects).

      3. There is nothing wrong with Hamels’ contract. He is an ace in his prime, contracted for several $million a year below market value.

      4. No one said that. No one. It’s not a BAD contract. He should get a good return.

        What the sensible among us have said it that he’s not going to get the fantasy haul that a certain segment of the population around here is hoping for (or, more accurately, taking for granted), and his contract has positive and negative aspects. Some people around here believe that the length of the contract is a big positive. It’s not. For some organizations it is a neutral factor and for some organizations a negative. Not sure ANY team regards a 4 year contract (even if a little below market) for a 30 year old pitcher as a positive. He PROBABLY will suffer a serious injury or decline before the deal is done. And if the AVV is below market, (1) it’s not MUCH below market, and (2) it’s still high compared to almost all pre-FA players.

        And it is that last point that some people don’t seem to have the reading comprehension to appreciate. The very very rare player who gets you three top prospects is a pre-FA star. Meaning (a) younger, and (b) even further below market compensation.

        Now, all that said, I’ve been a strong advocate of putting him on the market, and, IF a good offer is put on the table (by no means a certainty, regardless of his abstract “value”)., taking it.

        And what would such a very good offer look like? Probably about as good as the Shields deal 1 1/2 years ago. By no means certain that he would get that, but it is possible. Yet when people propose deals for that kind of package, people scream that it would not be nearly enough. And who is screaming? The same people who want a fire sale.

  6. Shocked no one has talked about Stankiewicz going from the Howard line to a 300 hitter over last few weeks. Also, would love to see Henson and Castro get looks in September, though they’re not 6’5 and toolsy, so they might be screwed.

  7. Biddle pitched in the GCL today … 2 IP, 1 ER (a HR), 3/1 K/BB. Hopefully he’s got those mechanics all smoothed out. Welcome back!

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