46 thoughts on “Box Score Recap, 24 May 2011

  1. 1. OF – Domonic Brown (Phillies) – (.100) 0 for 2 with a BB and an RBI (1)
    2. RHP – Brody Colvin (Clearwater)- (0-1, 4.96) – DNP
    3. OF – Jon Singleton (Clearwater)- (.258) –0 for 4 with a K
    4. RHP – Jared Cosart (Clearwater) – (4-3, 3.17) – DNP
    5. RHP – Trevor May (Clearwater)- (3-2, 4.13) –DNP
    6. C – Sebastian Valle (Clearwater) – (.313) – 1 for 10 with 3 K’s
    7. LHP – Jesse Biddle (Lakewood) – (2-5, 4.78) – DNP
    8. RHP – Vance Worley (Phillies) – (2-0, 2.14) – 5 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 4 BB and 3 K’s
    9. OF – Tyson Gillies (Reading) – DNP
    10. RHP – Justin De Fratus (Reading) – (2-0, 2.66, 4 SV) – DNP
    11. RHP – Julio Rodriquez (Clearwater)- (5-3, 2.50) – 6 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 E, 3 BB and 3 K’s (loss)
    12. 2B – Cesar Hernandez (Clearwater) – (.200) 0 for 3
    13. OF – Domingo Santana (Lakewood) – (.270) DNP
    14. RHP – JC Ramirez (Reading) – (5-3, 3.00) – DNP
    15. OF – Aaron Altherr (Lakewood) – (.197) – DNP
    16. RHP – Jon Pettibone (Clearwater) – (4-3, 1.98) – DNP
    17. C – Cameron Rupp (Lakewood) – (.224) – DNP
    18. OF – Jiwan James (Clearwater) – (.241) – 0 for 4 with 2 K’s
    19. 2B – Harold Garcia (Reading) – Out for the season with a torn ACL
    20. RHP – Kevin Walter – Season hasn’t started
    21. RHP – Colby Shreve (Lakewood) – (2-3, 4.25) – DNP
    22. RHP – Phillippe Aumont (Reading) – (0-2, 3.00, 3 SV) – DNP
    23. RHP – Michael Schwimer (Lehigh Valley) – (2-0, 2.10, 1 SV) – 2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB and 2 K’s
    24. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (Reading) – (.342) – 0 for with 2 K’s
    25. RHP – Austin Hyatt (Reading) – (5-3, 4.31) – 5 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 4 BB and 8 K’s (loss)
    26. OF – Leandro Castro (Clearwater) – (.260) – 0 for 3 with SB (6) and a K
    27. OF – Miguel Alvarez (Lakewood) –(.273) – DNP
    28. OF – Kelly Dugan – Season hasn’t started
    29. RHP – Josh Zeid (Reading) – (2-3, 5.19) – DNP
    30. RHP – Percival Garner – Season hasn’t started


    1B – Cody Overbeck (Reading) – (.282) 2 for 4 with a HR (13) and 2 RBI
    1B – Darin Ruf (Clearwater) – (.284) – 1 for 3 with a 2B (15), a run and a BB
    3B – Ronnie Belliard (Lehigh Valley) – (.263) – 0 for 3
    3B – Geancarlo Mendez (Lakewood) – (.264) DNP
    SS – Freddy Galvis (Redding) – (.241) – 1 for 3 with a run, a BB and a K
    OF – Derrick Mitchell (Redding)- (.239) – 0 for 4 with a K
    OF – Joe Savery (Clearwater) –(.320) – DNP
    OF – Anthony Hewitt (Lakewood) – (.266) – DNP
    RHP – Justin Friend (Clearwater) – (0-0, 1.27, 16 SV) – DNP
    RHP – David Buchanan (Lakewood) – (6-2, 2.21) – DNP
    RHP – Lisalberto Bonilla (Lakewood) – (0-1, 1.47, 1 SV) –DNP

  2. So who are we watching in VSL anyway? I can’t remember who the potential prospects are down there.

    1. The guys who are hot (SSS) are:

      Jose Oliveros: 19; Catcher most times; Hitting over .500 and shown some power.

      Jair Morelos; 17, SS, .391 but has 5 errors. the whole team has 6.

      Jorge Gonzalez, 21, LHP, .84 ERA but he’s pretty old to be considered a serious prospect. If he’s move to GCL or Wmsprt then he’ll be a guy to watch.

      Albertin Chavez; 19; 3B; He’s been hot to start the season.

      Wilson Garcia; 17; listed as a catcher. He’s young and he’s hit. check in on him in a couple of weeks.

      Ely Izturriaga is still there. He’s 21 or 22. lefty. 14Ks in 10 innings in long relief. He played in the GCL for a while a few years back.

      Ronald Mendez is an 18 year old 6’5″ righty pitcher. I’d love to see him do some damage.

      Best name award goes to Manaure Martinez.

  3. Yo, since I got in early tonight, are there any names that I need to be adding?

    VSL? Others? Names to swap out?

    1. Great list as always.
      Some to consider: Rivero,Barnes
      Of interest: Orr, Carpenter, Posednik

    2. I second Rivero. Ruf and Belliard don’t have much interest for me as I doubt either will see the big club.

  4. Going into the May 24 games:

    Joe Savery – 1B/DH, age 25, level A+, wOBP .373
    Carlos Rivero – SS/3B, age 23, level AA, wOBP .370
    C Overbeck – 1B/3B, age 25, level AA, wOBP .365

    Rivero is clearly having the better season so far, but many are of the opinion that Savery and Overbeck should be among the first players promoted this year.

    1. I wouldn’t be surprised to see rivero get promoted first. Even though he is only 23, he has spent two entire seasons in double a. The phillies obviously like him too since they claimed him from the indians and have him on the 40 man roster.

    2. Well, Rivero started off slower, while Overbeck and Savery started the year red hot. The talk about promoting them quieted down a little when they cooled off.

      I’d also be leery about promoting Rivero, just because this is the first season in the past three years he’s actually hitting well.

    3. I definitely did not think Savery would stay that hot, but I also did not think he would get this cold. I thought he was far superior to his competition, but maybe he’s just better (or maybe not). mike77 was one of the first to point out what a good season Rivero is having. It’s encouraging and I hope this is the new Rivero we are seeing.

    4. Back in Spring Training when a noted seer floated the idea of Rivero starting off in AAA as a SS, all you heard on here was “must go to AA, 3B, must start at AA”. Now a couple of good months of stats and people feel the need to campaign for a promotion. Circumstances have changed, there’s no need to bring him up now. 23 y.o. , let him play out the AA season, barring unforseen events, and continue the first AA success till season’s end , and then see what they do next season. Polanco will play out one more season after this, and then an opening will be there- if Rivero continues on At AA, and then at AAA. They can continue on at AAA this season with Belliard, and come September 1, he will have utility as a RH pinch hitter and reserve.
      Since the only stats seen fit to include above were formulaic and concerned with wheedling the way onto base, looks to me as if there is little difference between the 3, and of those, Savery’s is higher anyway. What about Power? Specifically what about HR power? Not the kind of power connected to dribbling a ball to an unoccupied section of the park, and taking an extra base due to a possibly inept OF’er. Overbeck offers more in the way of HR power, and thus is of more efficacy to more imminent team needs. I believe Rizzotti would have been a more applicable choice for the list, and he too would warrant a more immediate promotion. Due to both of these showing a greater tendency to get hits for the present situation, they should warrant a more immediate promotion. Tendency to get more hits is of more use than rating higher in an invented stat , being but a fancified glorification of the BB. Though Some might say getting a hit is dumb luck and getting a BB while batting is a skill, the opposite is true.

      1. I’m not campaigning for any one of the three to be promoted. None of them are so spectacular as to be in position to force a promotion. I was merely pointing out that Rivero is having a better season than either Savery or Overbeck, and they are being celebrated everyday as breakout prospects on the site by some.

        Also, judging by your comment about the stat I used as proof, it seems you may not know what wOBA is. It is not the same as OBP. I apologize if I confused anyone, I indicated wOBP, as opposed to the correct wOBA.

        BTW, with regard to your question about power.
        Joe Savery has an anemic ISO of .095, and his OPS is a .784. Rivero’s ISO is .167 and OPS is .816, so his power is much better than Savery’s, but much less than Overbecks. Rivero has shown better on base skills than Overbeck though.

  5. Overbeck is on a ridiculous HR pace…definately would like to see how he and Rizz would do at AAA

  6. I find it interesting that Overbeck has been moved to LF. With Ibanez in the last year of his contract, does anyone think Overbeck has a legitimate shot at that position on the Phils next year?

    1. I don’t. Despite the power Overbeck currently has a .276 batting average and .323 On Base Percentage. I don’t see that translating into respectable MLB production next year.

      Honestly, Overbeck’s upside at best IMO is still as a bench bat. He really doesn’t have the stick for playing 1B/LF and his glove is not good enough for 3B. 25 year olds with great slugging percentages in AA are rarely anything noteworthy.

      1. I agree. I am cautiously pessimistic on Overbeck. If he rakes on AAA pitching, I might change my mind but, for now, he’s still a very big question mark.

    2. Nice nickname same as departed Uncle.
      Since NO ONE has a crystal ball the only way to tell is get him to the show.
      Overbeck may be one of those guys who gets better with better competition.
      Stats and PAST performance is only an indicator not a chain like some post

    3. If by position you mean the starting LF position in Philly next season, I think not. If however, Overbeck can continue on, preferably with AAA LF experience before September 1, They will need to save some money and moving a minor leaguer to backup positions would be good. Overbeck can be the reserve LF, pinch hitter from the Right Side and emergency backup at 3B and 1B. For a starter, I would prefer a higher aim.

      1. I basically agree – while thinking there is still a small chance he could be more than that, though probably not next year.

        What cracks me up are the guys who (at the same time) are all over Francisco, think he stinks, shouldn’t be a regular, etc., etc., yet want to pencil in Overbeck as a regular. The fact is that right now Francisco is a MUCH better hitter than Overbeck – a little less power but better in every other regard. It’s possible I guess that Overbeck could surprise, and Francisco is what he is … still, the typical exagerated prospect favoritism you see around here.

        And to put this in perspective, I’m one of Overbeck’s biggest fans, very impressed with his performance this year.

  7. Good morning everybody. If you haven’t done so, buy the Daily News today. The front page of the sports section (back page of the paper) is a cover article about the Phillies young rotation in Clearwater. It’s a big write-up and I think there is more in the paper than made it on-line, including info boxes on the Clearwater rotation and a cautionary tale about the mid 1990s Piedmont rotation that went nowhere (Dave Coggin, Jason Kershner, et. al.).

    Here’s the link – http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20110525_A_BREATH_OF_THRESH_HEIRS.html

    But, buy the paper, it is worth it just to see Trevor May’s cheesy David Niven moustache.

    1. Not sure if there is more in the paper as compared to online, but if it is the cheesy David Niven mustache your after, that picture is online as well. I would highly recommend a look see on the Philly Sports homepage.

    2. Yeah Trevor May is rocking the porn moustache. Saw that this morning. But the article is real good. Hope theses guys can keep pushing through the system together.

  8. “Phillies Double-A prospect Tyson Gillies, part of the December 2009 deal that sent Cliff Lee to the Mariners, may start playing extended games within a week. ” … “The report was he was running at 100 and 110 percent yesterday,” general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said. “I don’t know how you get to 110 percent, but that’s what our trainer wrote.”


    I love the 110 percent quote. It sounds the Gillies as we saw in spring training 2010 is back.

    1. That’s what you get when you use terms like that with a person who attended Stanford. There is no such thing as 110 percent.

      1. Suppose his home to first time was 3.8 Sec before the injury and now it is 3.42 Wouldn’t that be 110% faster?

        1. See below, I suggested this is the only interpretation that would make sense. But do you think this is what he means? I doubt it.

          I think he means, he’s doing so well, he’s not just 100 percent healthy, he’s 110 percent healthy. And, yes, that interpretation does not make literal sense, but what he really means is this guy is all the way back and ready to go.

  9. Not when it comes to running, anyway. You can increase profits by 110 percent, but you can’t run at 110 percent unless, I suppose, you say that it is 110 percent better than he was running a month ago. Hey, maybe that’s what he meant!

  10. Re: Gillies

    I forget what the eventual outcome was, but did they determine exactly what was causing his hamstring issues? Just want some glimmer of hope that this will be the end of his problems and he can start to tap into his potential.

    1. I think it was the typical thing – you hurt yourself so you start compensating for that by using your body differently and that ends up hurting other parts of your body or at least developing bad habits. This Nebraska specialist he’s been working with seemed to diagnose his bad habits and got him to straighten them out. I hope Gillies gets back on the field soon, I think he has a lot of upside.

    1. I hereby dub Jarred Cosart “Dr. Filth.” And with his K/BB ratio, Trevor May is definitely the “Heart-Attack Machine.”

  11. Hyatt 8 SO’s in 5 has anyone seen him pitch live? What stands out about his repertoire of pitches lately….

  12. I saw Hyatt Pitch last night got some great photos I will be putting into anotehr slide show soon. Its not velocity, highest I saw him hit was around 89 (and thats accounting for 2-3 mph difference of slowness on Reading’s gun), he paints the corners but misses a lot hence the high numbers of walks, that 3 run bomb he gave up was ridiculous a moon shot like I never saw it was still rising as reached the RF Wall cleared the whole pool pavilion, for all I know it landed on teh other side of Rt 61. Hyatt has good breaking stuff but there is no real fastball, to be fair the ump wasn calling the game rather tight for him, (and kind of large for the other guy)

    Side note Cody’s power surge is incredible to witness, this was opposite filed number to the pool in right, never seen him hit one to righ that was so far right before.

    1. That’s a little disappointing. I could swear that the year he was drafted reports were that his velocity was in the low 90s or a little higher. Maybe that was not true or, alternatively, perhaps that spike was temporary.

  13. Lakewood is playing today. Garrett Claypool was great 7 ip 11 so 1bb. The claws ran themselves out of a few big innings. Hewitt 1-3 with a sb and so.

    1. Claypool lights-out his past 4 outings. 20IP, 10 hits, 3 BBs, 24Ks. Numbers to get excited about

  14. Gotta be excited about Gillies’ return. This is a kid that wants to play so bad it makes him sick when he can’t play. This is a kid that wants to run full speed everywhere so I get the 110% reference. Hopefully, he’s healthy and will be up to reading in a couple of weeks. He’s still someone that has a shot to crack the major league roster next year if he plays well in the 2nd half this year. As for the Baby Aces, next article, we can all dream a little.

  15. Live 5 miles from Roger Dean Stadium. Looking forward to see Cosart pitch tonight. Hopefully it wont be a 23 inning game and the off wakes up.

    1. Cosart had a great game, but it looks from the recap like things fell apart for him at the end with two walks and a wild pitch and a passed ball. What was happening? He didn’t get hurt, did he?

      1. He didnt get hurt just ran out of gas. I was there last night and he is as good as Ive been reading.

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