2022 Phuture Phillies Readers’ Vote: #4 Prospect

On to the vote for the #4 prospect in the organization.  There are 27 players listed in the poll below. I have added five to the poll.

The number three spot went to Andrew Painter by a substantial margin.  He received 77 of the 114 votes cast (67.5%).  Logan O’Hoppe finished second with 24 votes (21.1%).  Johan Rojas received three.  Mickey Moniak and Erik Miller received two each.  Matt Vierling, Francisco Morales, Adonis Medina, Yhoswar Garcia, Luis Garcia, and Kyle Dohy received one each.

In addition to voters in the US, we received votes from Korea, Israel, and France.  All of the overseas votes were cast for Painter.

A separate write-up on Painter can be found here.

The 5 new prospects are Erubiel Armenta, Alexeis Azuaje, Damon Jones, Lee Hao Yu, and James McArthur.


Eligibility: “To be eligible for a list, a player must have rookie eligibility. To qualify for rookie status, a player must not have exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues, or accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the 25-player limit period, excluding time on the disabled list or in military service.”

If you feel I am not going to get to your guy early enough, by all means, ask me to add him in the comments section.

Features of this poll include –

  • The names will be in alphabetical order.
  • The Other option will be OFF.
  • You can choose ONE prospect.
  • Repeat voting is blocked.
  • Results will be hidden and revealed after the poll is closed.
  • I reserve the right to set aside any outcome if I think anything irregular occurred.

Here are some reference polls.  (I’ll leave these here for a few more rounds.)

MLB’s Current Phillies Top 30

Baseball America: Abel, Painter, Stott, Rojas, Wilson, O’Hoppe, Crouse, Vierling, Marchan, Muzziotti

Matt Winkelman’s Near End of Season Top Prospects

Mitch Rupert’s Poll (about halfway into the discussion)

Mitch Rupert’s Personal Top Twenty

My Contribution to Mitch Rupert’s Poll 

The 2021 Phuture Phillies Readers’ Top 30 Prospect List (the one I picked).

The 2020 Phuture Phillies Readers’ Top 30 Prospect List (the last one you picked).

16 thoughts on “2022 Phuture Phillies Readers’ Vote: #4 Prospect

  1. #4 came down to O’Hoppe or Rojas. I kept saying Rojas then O’Hoppe until the ASL. Logan won me over.

    1. I agree that it’s these two next. However I wouldn’t be surprised to see both traded for our next CF. Our 4 and 5 picks plus Miller or Morales would have lots of value but I don’t want to trade either of the two pitchers above.

  2. Rojas vs O’Hoppe for me, and really close. I went with Rojas. I just have a feeling that he is going to be really good. Anyone going with Logan I cannot argue with at all. The top 5, IMO, are a tier above the next group.

    1. Matt13, well put. I also went with Rojas over OHoppe, but they are about even in my opinion. One is closer to majors and had a great season, the other has a huge upside.

  3. Luis Garcia for me….like RHP Francisco Morales…IMO they will be two breakout Latin players this season. Maybe even, making it at the 85-100 range of many national Top 100s.

  4. I am going with O’Hoppe at #4 for the reasons I’ve explained many times. A good defensive catcher with potentially plus plate discipline and power is an unusual asset and one you can build an entire team around. O’Hoppe has more than a passing chance to be that guy and so I have to choose him here. Rojas and Garcia are also fine picks here. Without people paying too much attention, Garcia made significant strides last year. Again, a plus fielder who is now showing good plate discipline and power – huge assets in a SS. Now we also need to see more progress with the hit tool, just as we need to see that with Rojas.

    1. That said, while it’s close for me between Garcia and Rojas, I’d go with Rojas for a few reasons. First, his talent is truly electric. I saw him in ST last year and was nearly shocked with the athleticism. This guy is a tool shed and reminds me a little bit of the old Reds star Eric Davis – skinny, but a quick twitch, lightning fast swing nightmare for other teams. Usually, I’m not a big fan of skinny position players as their hitting skills often do not translate well to the big leagues, but he’s an outlier. Second, I scratched my head when he was promoted to high A ball last year, but he hit the ground running, suggesting that he was adjusting and evolving quickly. He’s definitely among the top “breakout” candidates in the organization, along with O’Hoppe (who had a strong year, but not quite a “breakout” year, if you exclude his AFL performance).

      1. I think the trio- group of O’Hoppe. Rojas, and Luis Garcia will all, or at least two, be asked upon by other GMs when trade talks begin again.
        Id Dombrowski decides to move them….hope he gets impactful MLB players in return…like s Bryan Reynolds or Ketel Marte types

        1. My view of this is that, at some point here, DD is going to trade one of Abel or Painter (not both!) and one of Rojas, Garcia or O’Hoppe (and probably not two of them). This team cannot afford to depart with a franchise player, so they are going to need to assess the the talent properly. Please don’t confuse what I am saying as an endorsement to trade these players – it’s only a prediction of what I think might happen. The goal, of course, is to make sure to retain the future franchise player(s), assuming there are any in this group.

          1. Agree. As for trading Abel in a package for say, Bryan Reynolds, I don’t think it’s a matter of IF Dombrowski would trade Abel BUT whether the Phillies would offer enough along with Abel. That’s the question. Rojas would be a no brainer since you would think that Pittsburgh would want a promising young CF in return. But what else? This is where DD must weigh the pluses and minuses.

            1. Dombrowski cannot wait 2/3/4 years for these players to become impactful for the Phillies…if they ever do.
              The window is closing on the core…Harper/JTR/Hoskins/Wheeler/Nola….and 4 years from now, collectively, they may be on their last hurrahs.

            2. Nothing will make that window as smaller than trading all of our best young prospects. And this is isn’t the type of window where you really need to panic, although you also shouldn’t be stupid either. These are mostly expensive players that can be replaced by other expensive players (with the possible exception of Nola, who is a bargain – Hoskins is a good deal too but he’s a first baseman – a very replaceable piece). Where you need to be worried is where all of your best players are pre-free agency (the Cubs of the last few years) or are literally on their last legs – we are not close to being there yet.

              You know why teams like the Dodgers get good and stay good? They ALWAYS have young players coming up and replacing other players. So, yeah, I’ll expect some trading of prospects but let’s not blow this thing up by trading all the prospects the way Amaro did or we will be back in the sub.500 stew again. I’ve had enough of that.

  5. I am hoping you are right, Romus, but they are part of the next tier for me until they have those breakout seasons. Certainly high on my list, but still waiting for them to take those steps.

    1. matt13….I debating O’Hoppe or Garcia…one is four and the other five…or maybe 4A or 4B.
      In any event, hope this season all break out even further…..well until maybe Dombrowski pulls the trigger and makes them part of trade packages.

  6. Johan Rojas for me. This is right where I have him on my list. IMO, Rojas looks like Juan Samuel offensively, and Victor Robles defensively.
    I have the Garcias (Luis then Yhoswar) after Rojas.

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