44 thoughts on “Threshers Recap – 5/12/2019”

1. I think this was brought up already in another thread but is Vierling a legit prospect? I mean I know he’s a 5th rounder so it wouldn’t be crazy to see him emerge as a legit prospect, it’s just that I don’t remember hearing much hype about him.

   1. Yes – he appears to be very much legit. Rising about as fast as possible

   2. I am intrigued by him and have asked a few scouts online. I think that he is one of those prospects that has to prove it at every level. He certainly has some tools. But a 24% k rate is high for his profile. something to watch.

      1. Anything you read suggest he can stick in CF?

         1. Most of the reports that I have read are focused on his bat. Scouts are intrigued but no one is all in on the kid. Probably a corner OF guy. But has a good swing.

2. Poor fans in Reading. Do they have any hitting?

   1. Denny…hate to say it, but me thinks Dylan could be an ex-Phillie soon.

      1. Yeah, no one is more disappointed than I am. He might become the next Willians Astudillo.

         1. I think he wants out for new scenery, fresh start and another opportunity.
            There are teams like the Al-Central..Tigers, Royals and WSox who could use additional OF help or even the Os in the AL-East….then there are NL teams like the Reds, DBacks, and Giants who are all looking to audition new talent.

            1. Is he currently on the mental or physical DL? We can’t get in touch to verify. He’s laying low.

               1. Yeah…don’t know what is happening now….after they returned from Buffalo last Sunday, he has not appeared in any games vs Durham and this past weekend vs Indy….this week he may be sorting things out. Maybe he is nicked up?

               2. He’s on the DL at LHV.

               3. Ok…..hopefully it is not a long DL

               4. It’s a foot/toe injury. Time frame unknown. I think he tried to play through it but it never improved so they’re resting him.

         2. Astudillo actually hit tho.

3. Top four hitters for Clearwater, Vierling, Bohm, Muzziotti and Maton should all be in the majors somewhere …for Vierling, Bohm and Maton by ’22 or ’23 at the latest and Muzziotti to follow another year later.

   1. I think Vierling is going to LHV they have two outfielders hurt i believe.

      1. rocco….not sure about Adams and Robinson’s contracts…they may be able to opt-out after June 1st if they are not recalled….a lot of veteran former MLB players who get minor league contracts like to have that written into them to try to hook on with other teams.

4. What a season (and a couple of seasons now) for Grullon.

5. Very encouraging starts for Vierling, Maton and Muzziotti. It’s too soon to say they’re major leaguers before they even make AA but those guys are probably the biggest bright spots on the season right now.

6. Is our collective disappointment with Moniak a reaction to his draft position, or his achievement? He is pretty young for AA, and it wasn’t his fault he was drafted 1.1…..would we have a different impression of him if he were 1.8? He did come on the second haft of last year.

   1. If he weren’t drafted 1/1 he would probably be rated in the 20s among our prospects, maybe 30s imho.

   2. He would be a lot less of a disappointment and would probably be in Clearwater. It seems like the organization is rushing him in a desperate attempt to show he was worth 1-1. They are even batting him leadoff to get him more AB’s. Look at his walk/k ratio and OBP and tell me how on earth he can bat leadoff.

      Frankly, he has shown nothing as a hitter since drafted. A high K % for a kid I would generously list as a gap hitter. Unless he does a 180 he doesn’t appear to be a real major league prospect no matter where he was drafted or his signing bonus.

      I expect at some point he will be a throw-in lottery ticket acquisition by another organization willing to take a chance on a former 1-1. The Phillies will get pennies on the dollar for him.

   3. He kind of fits in the same category as Jhailyn Ortiz. Any attention they get is based primarily on their draft position/large signing. Otherwise, we wouldn’t even notice how they were coming along, or not, unless they were lighting up the box scores.

   4. If he wasn’t a first round pick, no one would ever speak of him on this blog. He wouldn’t be in Reading, he would have more time to develop. That would have been the best case for him. Fly under the radar and just develop. But the fact is that he was 1:1 and that comes with unrealistic expectations. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

   5. Yes and yes. If he had been a late first rounder he would probably be in Clearwater now. If he were putting up the kind of numbers there that he did in the second half last year we would be giving him a lot of hype. Case in point, look at older guys like Vierling and Maton.

      OTOH, outside of that stretch last year he hasn’t shown much and that’s a disappointment.

7. I’ll say this again … Nick Maton is the most under the radar prospect in the Phillies system.

   1. Hinkie – I don’t know if it’s ever been done in baseball, but has a team ever traded the #1 pick in the draft?

      1. You can’t trade draft picks in baseball. And after you draft a player, you have to wait 1 year before that person can be traded.

         1. Well, not a full year. At the end of the major league season during which they are drafted, all such players are eligible to be traded. That would be the day after the last game of the World Series.

            1. You are correct. This was changed in 2015.

      2. Not exactly sure what you’re asking.
         Teams can now trade their draft picks (#1 or beyond) after the season (World Series) ends. If you want to know if a team has ever traded a guy who was drafted 1-1, (after some quick research) the answer is many times. Rick Monday, Tim Foli, Phil Nevin, and Adrian Gonzalez are a few of the better known 1-1’s dealt.

         1. Can’t forget about Mark Appel being dealt from the Astros to the Phillies, also.

            1. Good example. God that guy was such a mess. He totally gave up. No fight once things got difficult.

            2. I had no idea that picks couldn’t be traded. I was thinking that a team like Miami could accelerate their rebuild by trading a pick for 4 or 5 players/prospects.

               1. Yeah. If MLB was smart, they would allow clubs to trade draft picks (and the bonus slot money that come with them). That would make the MLB draft much more relevant/exciting/viewed.

               2. Just think of the team Marlins would have if they didn’t trade prospects or young players:

                  1b Miguel Cabrera
                  Of Giocarlo Stanton
                  Of Marcell Ozuna
                  Of Christian Yellich
                  C JT Realmuto

                  Or do drugs like Fernandez.

            3. Trea Turner was in that class as well…

               Drafted 13th by the Padres acquired by the NATS in a 3 team deal with the Rays

         2. But these guys were all traded after they were established big league players – they weren’t traded as prospects.

            1. Not exactly true, catch.

               * Adrián González was selected by the Marlins, but never played for them (was traded three years after being drafted).
               * Mark Appel (obviously) was also traded before ever reaching MLB.
               * Phil Nevin was drafted by the Astros, but played only 18 games for them.
               * Tim Foli was picked by the Mets, but had less than 300 AB’s with them.

            2. Dansby Swanson was traded to Atlanta not long after he became eligible.

   2. I think you may be right. The plate discipline is something else. I’m a big fan.

8. Thank goodness Reading is so favorable for hitters. Otherwise, can you imagine what the Reading numbers for our hitters would look like?!?

   1. The Reading Fightin’ Mendoza’s

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