Minor League Discussion: Week of November 12, 2018

It looks like some roster movement may have occurred.  These transactions haven’t been announced, so they aren’t official.  Yet.  And, we can be assured that there will be more. But, it looks like the following assignments have/will occur among the full season teams –

  • Deivi Grullon, Adam Haseley, and Jan Hernandez to Lehigh Valley;
  • Trevor Bettencourt, Ismael Cabrera, J.D. Hammer, Mauricio Llovera, Adonis Medina, Sixto Sanchez, Edgar Cabral, Henri Lartigue, Arquimedes Gamboa, Harold Garcia, Raul Rivas, Luke Williams, Grenny Cumana, and Mickey Moniak to Reading;
  •  Rodolfo Duran, Nick Maton, and Jake Scheiner to Clearwater; and
  • Colton Eastman, Tyler Fallwell, Abrahan Gutierrez, Rafael Marchan, Alec Bohm, Luis Garcia, Stoney O’Brien, and Malvin Matos to Lakewood.

The 40-man roster and most of the Lehigh roster are usually among the 60-70 players invited to spring training.  I would anticipate that Grullon, Haseley, and Hernandez are going to receive invites to major league spring training (Grullon and Hernandez if they survive the Rule 5 Draft).  Catchers are at a premium during ST, so Cabral and Lartigue are likely to receive invites as well.  I wouldn’t be surprised if Alec Bohm, Cornelius Randolph, Mickey Moniak, Adonis Medina, Sixto Sanchez, Mauricio Llovera, and a handful of fast-tracked relievers also received invites.

Note: the Phillies signed a a 16-year-old, Cuban outfielder, Derek Escobar.

This is the Phuture Phillies Discussion Page for Prospect and Minor League discourse.  No Phillies talk here.

Key Dates:

  • October 9, 2018 – Opening Day for the Arizona Fall League (AFL)
  • October 12, 2018 – Opening Day for the Mexican Winter League (MPL)
  • October 12, 2018 – Opening Day for the Venezuelan Winter League (LVBP)
  • October 13, 2018 – Opening Day for the Dominican Winter League (LIDOM)
  • October 22, 2018 – Opening Day for the Nicaraguan Winter League (LNBP) 
  • November 2nd of the last year of a player’s Minor League Uniform Player Contract, the player’s Minor League Uniform Player Contract shall expire and the player shall become a ‘Minor League free agent’ unless the player’s Major or Minor League club has remaining options to renew the contract.  (Major League Rule 55)
    • According to Major League Rule 3(b), “All Minor League Uniform Player Contracts between either a Major or a Minor League Club and a player who has not previously signed a contract with a Major or a Minor League Club shall be for a term of seven Minor League playing seasons.”
  • November 2, 2018 – Opening Day for the Columbian Winter League (LCBP)
  • November 6-8, 2018 – GM meetings, Carlsbad, CA.
  • November 14-15, 2018 – Owners Meetings in Atlanta , GA.
  • November 15, 2018 – Opening Day for the Puerto Rican Winter League (LBPRC)
  • November 15, 2018 – Opening Day for the Australian Baseball League (ABL)
  • November 17, 2018 – Last game of the Arizona Fall League (AFL)
  • November 20, 2018 – Deadline for roster expansion to 40 players prior to the Rule 5 draft.
  • November 26-29: MLBPA Executive Board Meeting, Dallas, TX
  • December 9-13, 2018 – Winter Meetings in Las Vegas, Nevada
  • December 13, 2018 – Rule 5 draft.
  • TBA – (last year on February 14) – pitchers and catchers report to Spring Training (tentative: report on 2/13, first work out 2/14)
  • TBA – (last year on February 19) – all other players report for full squad workouts (tentative: report on 2/18, first work out 2/19)
  • TBA – Minor League Spring Training begins

The rosters and lists are up to date.

Transactions (newest transactions in bold text)
11/11/18 – Phillies signed free agent P Carlos Valero to a future services contract
11/8/18 – Phillies signed free agent RHP Jose Guaramaco to a future services contract
11/7/18 – Phillies signed free agent OF Derek Escobar to a future services contract
11/2/18 – Phillies sent SS Pedro Florimon outright to Lehigh Valley
11/2/18 – OF Ryan Goins elected free agency
11/2/18 – 1B Zach Green elected free agency
11/2/18 – C Matt McBride elected free agency
11/2/18 – LF Danny Ortiz elected free agency
11/2/18 – C Nick Rickles elected free agency
11/2/18 – SS Dean Anna elected free agency
11/2/18 – RHP Pedro Beato elected free agency
11/2/18 – CF Collin Cowgill elected free agency
11/2/18 – RHP Ranfi Casimiro elected free agency
11/2/18 – C Logan Moore elected free agency
11/2/18 – 3B Jesmuel Valentin elected free agency
11/2/18 – RF Jiandido Tromp elected free agency
11/2/18 – 2B Heiker Meneses elected free agency
11/2/18 – RHP Mario Sanchez elected free agency
11/2/18 – RHP Harold Arauz elected free agency
11/2/18 – C Gabriel Lino elected free agency
11/2/18 – 3B Will Middlebrooks elected free agency
11/2/18 – RHP Alberto Tirado elected free agency
11/2/18 – C Kevin Martir elected free agency
11/1/18 – Phillies signed C Victor Cairo to a future services contract
10/29/18 – Lehigh Valley released 1B Joey Meneses
10/25/18 – DSL Phillies Red activated 1B Maximo De La Rosa
10/25/18 – DSL Phillies White activated RHP Jose Brazon
10/10/18 – Reading activated RHP Mario Sanchez from the 7-day disabled list
10/10/18 – Reading activated LHP JoJo Romero from the 7-day disabled list
10/10/18 – Reading activated RHP Alexis Rivero from the 7-day disabled list
10/8/18–Phillies signed free agent RHP Carlo Reyes to a minor league contract.
10/5/18–3B Trevor Plouffe elected free agency.
9/27/18–Phillies signed free agent RHP Cristofer Adames to a minor league contract
9/22/18–Phillies signed free agent LHP Joel Valdez to a minor league contract.
9/14/18–Phillies signed free agent RHP Hermes Astudillo to a minor league contract

103 thoughts on “Minor League Discussion: Week of November 12, 2018

  1. Winter Leagues haven’t been too exciting except Hall’s 4 HRs and Listi’s playoff performance. Hitter’s stats have been blah. Pitching stats show a bunch of guys with sub-2.00 ERAs but look at Seth McGarry. His ERA IS 0.90 but his WHIP is 1.60. He has 14 Ks in 10 IP but he also has 8 BBs and 8 hits allowed. There are a lot of guys like that. So he’s always pitching with a lot of guys on base and their not guys he inherited. There also don’t seem to be as many guys playing Winter Ball this year as in the past. Maybe some of the leagues aren’t getting included in the MLB Winter League stat sheet.

    In case you don’t know about the Winter League Stat sheet, here’s the link: http://www.mlb.com/milb/stats/org.jsp?id=phi

  2. Thanks for this thread, Jim. Looking forward to following more prospects playing full season ball next year. Any word on where Ortiz will start the season?

  3. Hope to see soon Spencer Howard, Will Stewart. Kyle Young and Zach Warren’s names going to Clearwater also among the pitchers…so far the three position players have received the promo from Lakewood..

    1. Don’t be surprised if Howard starts 2019 in Reading. I heard Matt Klentak (and some others from the FO) were in Lakewood to see, firsthand, Howard’s last two starts of the season (his two playoff outings). One was the no-hitter. In those two games, the impressive former second round pick totaled 14 IP, 1 ER, 3 H, 1 BB, 15 K. Klentak and his staff were blown away, and a decisiion on whether to double-jump him will be made in the spring.
      Maybe SWorks14 can add to this report … or … maybe not.

      1. I know that Matt Klentak was at Spencer’s final game as you can see him in the video sitting behind the plate. He has heard nothing but is excited to get next season started. Side note he is working out at Sparta Science in Menlo Park CA…very cool stuff!!

        1. Great to hear. Hopefully, the Phillies avoid including your son in any trades. I believe he’s got a sky high ceiling.

        2. I’m telling you what – and if you look back at my comments you’ll know I mean it and have been saying it for a while – your son has incredible potential – as much as anyone in the organization.

          So much so that I would advise both of you to start thinking about locating very competent financial if he begins to progress to the majors, which I think he will do. Get someone established and tied to a big firm with assets – so many players trust the wrong financial people with horrible consequences.

          1. Thanks catch…BTW they tweaked his mechanics right before the playoffs and it looks like it worked. The pitching coach for Lakewood, Brad Bergeson is awesome. S really connected with him…

            1. I heard Bergeson may move up to Clearwater. I didn’t report that because I heard it around the time they let the batting coaches walk, and Fultz is already there in that position. If it were to happen, it would require further coaching moves.

            2. Well, you’re very welcome. It sounded like his FB was regularly hitting the high 90s and touching over that up to around 100 toward the end of the year – which is pretty staggering given that, when drafted, he was said to have low to mid-90s velocity but his big selling point as a prospect, was great movement and command.

              If you wonder what a jump in velocity like that can do for a pitcher with a sinking/moving FB in the low to mid-90s, check out Charlie Morton. Charlie used to sit around 91-93, but started throwing harder and harder and just got better and better as a result.

          2. As for financial advise etc Spencer is with a firm that specializes in athletes. If you remember Matt Imhoff – he now works for this firm…

        3. Very cool! My son’s HS uses the Sparta assessments to flag injury risk and structural imbalances.

    2. I’m sure we will see the assignments you mention and more. It’s just a matter of when. The Phillies have been notoriously slow posting their affiliates’ transactions in the off season in the past, and just as slow updating the affiliates’ rosters.

      Some of the short-season assignments that I didn’t list are likely to just be “paper’ assignments. I think they need to have all their players on rosters before the winter meetings, except for the kids signed to future services contracts.

      With the 3 future services contracts listed in the article, I have the about 30 players on future services contracts who aren’t on a roster yet.

      “I have a guy” who keeps track of all league transactions and rosters. His source is well placed. Most times, he has signings and assignments before they are reported. I tracked his stuff for months before I felt comfortable reporting them in PP. I finally asked where he got such accurate information ahead of others. He told me, and his source was good enough for me to use his info.

  4. Does anyone else get Andrew Pullin vibes from Adam Haseley? Presumably Haseley more athletic given he’s a CF, but in terms of hitting profile.

    1. I think you said it best BSD Haseley profiles pretty well in CF which always changes a guys offensive complexion.

    2. Both left handed batters and profile close to similar in size.
      Slight difference in batting approach.
      But Haseley can play a better defensive OF.

      1. I don’t think I want to go there just yet. Haseley appears to be adjusting well and has gone fast for a college draft pick. Pullin had a lot of at bats before he excelled in Reading. But it is a cautionary tale about putting too much weight on Reading stats – they can be notoriously misleading.

    3. Nope, not at all. Pullin didn’t have much plate discipline. He swung at the first-pitch way too often. I watched him in Clearwater and he would come to bat in the later innings having seen just 3-4 pitches total in his first 3 at bats.

      From the “get-go”, Haseley has impressed me as the better, more patient hitter.

      1. Well, Romus posted career K% and BB% right above us. Haseley’s better, but barely. The low slugging concerns me, but he has more room to improve for sure.

        1. Brock….the smaller delta between K and BB% is an indicator to some analyst that a player has a better approach.
          In Haseley’s case his is 7 and Pullin’s was 11…not a drastic difference but still
          slightly favors Haseley..

        2. I don’t think Pullin’s K% or BB% has much to do with my comment. In Clearwater during the 2015 season, he swung at too many first pitches and put them in play, often weakly. Can’t strike out or walk when you only see one or two pitches per at bat.

    4. I never saw Pullin but I was impressed with Haseley (and Pujols) when I saw them late in the season. Solid contact, even the outs were hard hit. I think Cozens has a higher % bust rate than either of the other 2.

  5. I’m surprised to see all these off season placements, I thought this all happened in spring training. Jim can we take a look again at the guys who will need to be added to the 40? Just the minor league players who are involved. It’s usually a fun discussion.

    1. I covered some of the background in my reply to Romus above. Yes, these assignments usually occur in the spring. These won’t necessarily be where guys are assigned on Opening Day, but they give an idea of where the organization thinks these guys should begin the season.

      The link to all the 40-man info is below, the pertinent Rule 5 stuff is listed below the link –


      First Year Rule 5 Eligible Players This Off Season
      Eshelman, Tom – Lehigh Valley IronPigs
      Garcia, Edgar – Lehigh Valley IronPigs
      Gilbert, Tyler – Lehigh Valley IronPigs
      Bossart, Austin – Reading Fightin Phils
      Leftwich, Luke – Reading Fightin Phils
      McGarry, Seth – Reading Fightin Phils
      Brito, Daniel – Clearwater Threshers
      Cabral, Edgar – Clearwater Threshers
      Cleavinger, Garrett – Clearwater Threshers
      Gamboa, Arquimedes – Clearwater Threshers
      Martin, Kyle – Clearwater Threshers
      Medina, Adonis – Clearwater Threshers
      Antequera, Jose – Lakewood Blueclaws
      Carrasco, Luis – Lakewood Blueclaws
      Sobil, Victor – Lakewood Blueclaws
      Alcantara, Randy – Williamsport Crosscutters
      Marcelino, Oscar – Williamsport Crosscutters
      Martinez, Nerluis – Williamsport Crosscutters
      Rodriguez, Edwin – Williamsport Crosscutters
      Rosario, Sandro – GCL Phillies West

      Returning Rule 5 Eligible Players This Off Season
      Leibrandt, Brandon – Lehigh Valley IronPigs
      Viza, Tyler – Lehigh Valley IronPigs
      Windle, Tom – Lehigh Valley IronPigs
      Brown, Aaron – Reading Fightin Phils
      Cabrera, Ismael – Reading Fightin Phils
      Garcia, Harold – Reading Fightin Phils
      Grullon, Deivi – Reading Fightin Phils
      Hernandez, Jan – Reading Fightin Phils
      Marrero, Emmanuel – Reading Fightin Phils
      Pujols, Jose – Reading Fightin Phils
      Rivero, Alexis – Reading Fightin Phils
      Sanchez, Mario – Reading Fightin Phils
      Stankiewicz, Drew – Reading Fightin Phils
      Taveras, Jose – Reading Fightin Phils
      Tomscha, Damek – Reading Fightin Phils
      Cumana, Grenny – Clearwater Threshers
      Gomez, Jose – Clearwater Threshers
      Requena, Alejandro – Clearwater Threshers
      Alastre, Jesus – Lakewood Blueclaws
      Armas, Gustavo – Lakewood Blueclaws
      Cedeno, Luis – Lakewood Blueclaws
      Rivero, Gregori – Lakewood Blueclaws
      Escorcia, Juan – Williamsport Crosscutters
      Henriquez, Jesus – Williamsport Crosscutters
      Rodriguez, Lenin – Williamsport Crosscutters

      1. My guess is Edgar Garcia, Brito, Gamboa, Medina, and Grullon. That’s only 5 spots with Eshelman a possible 6th. Mcgarry and Gilbert are maybes. Phils should have no touble making room.

          1. I wasn’t sure on him. He did have a good year at Cwater but cooled off at Reading. Would someone carry him for a year?

            1. You never know about bottom teams…..Phillies did it with Tyler Goeddel a few years ago. rangers with Tocci last year….and both of those guys did nt have the power bat Pujols has, nor the arm for the OF. They did make a lot more contact.
              I remember the Padres took Jabari Blash (sp?) a few years ago…another high K power guy but further along in the minors in AAA ball.

        1. Just Medina and Gamboa in my opinion.
          Gamboa is outclassed is Fall League but upside and SS profile make him an easy stash guy.
          Grullion is not good enough on D.
          Brito still avg statistically and 2B.
          Garcia is a middle reliever.
          Pujols is not close to mlb ready. Might depend on scouts opinion on his progress.
          Eshleman is odd. I think I risk that a team is unwilling to draft someone with low upside. Could be good choice for non-contender just trying for cheap innings.

          1. Usually the 14/15 teams that draft in Rule 5 are non-contenders .
            Previous year play-off teams/contenders usually have their 40 full and pass over the draft.

      1. Not sure this will explain it accurately but I will give it a shot.
        Basically at some point before the Rule 5 and for Rule 5 purposes, ..MLB orgs have to set each levels roster…..but this is not permanent.
        Triple-A and Double A — set at 25 active.
        Class A ..Threshers — 25 active; 35 under control; no more than two players on active list may have SIX or more years of prior MiLB service.
        Class A: Lakewood — 25 active; 35 under control; no more than two players on active list may have FIVE or more years of prior MiLB service.
        Class A Short: Williamsport — 35 active. no more than three players on the Active List may have FOUR or more years of prior MiLB service.
        Rookie:, GCL Phillies — 35 active. No player on the Active List may have THREE or more years of prior MiLB service.
        Rookie: DR-DSL — 35 active. No player on the Active List may have FOUR or more years of prior MiLB Service.
        And usually no North American kids can go to the DR for the summer DSL…..PR kids can I think.

        1. This pretty accurately describes the limits. To take it one step further, the DSL teams had their full complement of 35 players when the season ended. ALL orgs have to activate the players on their DLs. The DSL teams had 3-4 guys on the 7- and 60-day DLs. These guys put them over the 35-man limit. Players had to be released or moved to a non-full roster.

          Presently, the rosters I saw have 35 players on both DSL teams, both GCL teams, and Williamsport. There are 34 on Lakewood’s roster.

    1. Bour, Garcia and Altherr are coming off 40 man roster, Dylan Cozens will remain and wii flourish in 2019.

  6. I think Haseley is a much better prospect than Pullin. I think he will develop some power, and I like his hitting. And, as mentioned above, he is a better defensive OF, and can play CF. So, I am looking forward to a really good season from him. Spencer Howard in Reading will be a great test for him,and I am looking forward to it.

  7. Your Season assignment comment!
    Reading SP
    Sixto Sanchez, Adonis Medina, Maurice Llovera . Conner Seabold, Jo Jo Romero moving up?
    FSL AllStar Falter and Minor League Pitcher of Year David Parkinson and a young Alehandro Requena. Nick Fanti to spend time in Clearwater due to unhurt season.

    Seems like Phillies have an Atlanta problem- clogged SP

    1. That Reading staff ought to be a fun one to watch this upcoming season.
      Sixto (16) and Adonis (41) on Longenhagen and McDaniel’s top prospects’ list could provide the Reading fans with exceptional performances…fingers crossed that they are both healthy thru the year.

  8. Has there been any clarity as to who the new “group” of batting instructors may be ? Any news welcome – thanks in advance.

  9. Doesn’t it suck that there’s a list on Fangraphs of the top 113 ranked players and Bohm is our only ranked drafted player at 69, even though we drafted 3 OFs in a row in the 1st rd? Drafting vs development? I guess the Phils are telling us they think it’s development since Jordan was replaced.

      1. Yeah, sort of – he saw the wind going in a different direction. He probably left before he was replaced. But the recent first round picks – pretty unremarkable so far. Odds are they will turn out, as a group, not to be very good picks and will, at best, slow down the rebuild. At worst, it means this team never makes it over the top. We’ll see.

    1. Murray, Sixto and Medina not being on a list of 113 top players means there is something wrong with Fangraphs rating system.

        1. Sorry Romus and Murray, my mistake. It would behoove me to read the article before I comment on it!

    2. Murray, Joe Jordan was NOT replaced in the manner you imply. He resigned with time still on his contract due to differences with the front office. Let’s say philosophical differences. He still had time on his contract. I heard the Phillies are going to pay the rest of his contract anyway. I’ve also heard he’s had multiple offers.

  10. Vitals on Derek Enrique Escobar
    Born: 1/28/2002 in Sancti Spiritus, Cuba
    OF…Bats-L…Throws-R….5’11”, 170 lbs
    Signed …Nov 7th, 2018

  11. With Sixto and Moniak at Reading to start the year, I think I’ll be heading to see them in person this year. It’s not that far of a hike for me

  12. Hinkie – Assuming the Phillies sign Harper, can we hope for Listi or Haseley to be ready by July, in case Williams, Altherr can’t cut it?

  13. Is that at all realistic Mike? I would think more like 2020. I hope Haseley has a great year at LHV, and shows some power, but sometime this year is a bit overly optimistic.

  14. Zach Green was signed by the Giants, per Matt W. I guess the Phils didn’t see a job for him at LHV. Good power bat leaving the system.

      1. Yes, he has signed with the Giants (11/13/2018) and been assigned to the PCL (AAA) Sacremento River Cats. He’ll join a guy named Brock Stassi as the only infielders currently on the roster.

  15. Tyler Viza is one of those guys that I’ve written off a dozen times, and every time I do he makes me feel like a dope. He’s still only 24 years old, but I don’t know where he fits in the organization. Lehigh will start De Los Santos, Irvin, Anderson, Eshelman, Suarez, and romero. Currently, the Phillies have 6 starters with Eflin the most likely to start the year at Lehigh. I’m not sure of Leibrandt’s status, so I didn’t include him. Apparently Viza starts in Reading.
    Klentak must thin out the starting pitchers at the AAA level this winter by mixing and matching some of the position players from the big league roster and pitching prospects from Lehigh. Which ones? Only Klentak and PHIL know for sure.

    1. Still irks me he let Ben Lively get away to the Royals for nothing in return.
      He has a lot to do now with so many young players/prospects at the MLB level …can’t keep them all.

          1. Yes…..I can somewhat understand Anderson, since he is youngish, but Loup?
            I think Klentak does not pay particular attention to the small minute details of the personnel allocation of the resources at his disposal.
            He misses opportunities to make small additions that in the long run may, or may not, pay bigger dividends..
            Trading for bautista on a whim in August to let Livelt get DFA! Sheeesh.
            But this is what happens when you listen to a manager who is so stubborn at times.
            Kranitz is another issue…..should have let Young go to wherever or whoever wanted him.
            But Kapler did the same at Okie City and tulsa with the older coaches when their teams did well a few years ago in the Dodger system.
            Kap better hope the FBI finds him clean…or else the Phillies and Matt Klentak will again be searching for another manager toot sweet.

      1. We don’t really need to yet. Our guys that other teams are signing weren’t going to figure into our plans. They could be described as fungible because we have similar players in the system or can go out an replace them from among the free agent pool.

        I was thinking about writing about a recent trend. But, maybe a paragraph or two here. Or, maybe a few bullet points.

        Have you noticed that –

        1.) the number of players we lose during the Rule 5 Draft has increased
        2.) a higher number of the players we try to DFA are being claimed on waivers
        3.) our MiLB FA are being signed by other orgs
        4.) fewer guys are resorting to Indy ball when they reach FA or are released

        I don’t know if this means anything. But, maybe the lower end of the players in our system have gotten better. Much better.

        Look how difficult it is to fill in the back end of the PP top 30. Or, how easy it is to carry a prospect list out to 50 or more players.

        But, Denny, we will certainly sign some MiLB FA to fill out the LHV roster when they have an idea where they want to have depth. Those guys will be there in case an injury forces a promotion and a prospect isn’t deemed ready to move up. But, more than likely it will be a one-year sentence to minor league ball. Look how well Joey Meneses played but couldn’t get a call up. A decision I understand and fully agree with.

        1. Another issue with our minor league system, we seem to have good players but not great players. They gel together as a team and have competitive teams but do not seem to be major league talents; i.e. Valentin, Walling. Suarez, Garcia, Knapp, Altherr, etc. We need to try to draft better not get a string of players that play well in minors. I would love to have some .300 hitters with 30 homers and pitchers with low ERAs, instead of the winningest teams in the minors.

        2. I agree Jim. We have more quality players throughout the system, not only because of good selections, but also because the players we draft are developing within our system. The last draft class was excellent with a number of players that could develop into major league players. The Phillies have been more earnest about signing and developing a number of free agent players from South America and the Caribbean. The numbers will give the team more of a chance to develop outstanding players..

  16. 6 spots currently open on the 40 man. There are 4 definites to add plus two from Pujols, Grullon, Eshelman, Gilbert, and McGarry. Of course, the 34 could still go down by a few if needed.

  17. Going to do an opinion piece on this, since I no longer believe it be easily decided: who is the Phillies top pitching prospect now and at the end of 2019?

    Sixto has the lead now, but has concerns about his health. Medina is at #2. If sixto is injured, I can see Medina passing sixto in the development stage, making Medina more untouchable than sixto. Thoughts?

    I’m looking forward to watching these top prospects in the system develop at reading this year

    1. You know who could really pole vault up to the top…Spencer Howard.
      If his CLW production and efficiency is anything like he finished with at Lakewood,
      His splits in July and August last season were extraordinary…with a minimum Game Score of 57 in 7 of his 9 starts during that two month span..
      He could be a fast riser and be in Reading by June or July if he can continue at that pace..

      1. I’ll go you one further Romus and put my #bebold into play. Howard will pitch in CBP in some capacity in 2019. He’s that good and if someone came calling for VV or Pivetta with something really good they would take it.

        1. Hmm, I haven’t seen any in person, but that should change this year. Planning on making the trip to reading to see these pitchers, whenHoward makes it, I’ll make a 3rd trip. Repeat trips for the top impression. That should also let me get a glimpse of Moniak 4 times, and idea where I stand on his development.

          Howard makes me feel better if this is the case. Reason being, I remember when kilome was a potential savior, and we saw how that played out. Also, for a reliever, Alberto Tirado, something like that threw 100mph, just couldn’t find the zone.
          People are tossing Medina’s name around as the expendable one, I’m not sure i wouldn’t have to consider the real untouchable order Medina,Howard, and then Sixto. This is due to possible serious injury concerns and lost development time. One of them needs to be ready by 2020/2021 to level out the big clubs team salary

        2. I don’t believe he’ll be pitching in CBP in 2019, but Spencer Howard may skip Clearwater and be double-jumped to Reading to start 2019.
          I do believe Adonis Medina will be throwing for the Phillies before the end of next season.

          1. That would be a big jump for Howard especially since he didn’t come into his own until the 2nd half.

        3. DMAR…that is aggressively bold for sure.
          Though Nola did it, and faster…drafted in June 2014 and pitched in Philly in July in 2015…13 months after being drafted.
          So why not for Howard also! 🙂

          1. 2020 – I can see Sixto, Howard and Irvin all in the opening day rotation. I think we’ll see Medina traded anytime between now and next winter.

            1. Wow…it doesn’t seem that long ago Spencer was pitching in Little League. Not sure my nerves can take it!!!

  18. If Sanchez ends up as a reliever, that will be a terrible reduced asset. They could trade him now for a lot because he’s seen as a possible 1/2 starter if healthy. If a reliever is his end result, that would be a shame. Personally, I think only health would derail him from being a starter and I think he could be in Philly in 2020. As for the other arms, I’m not so sure. Howard raised expectations with his strong finish but he was at Lakewood and a bit old for the league so we’ll see how he does this year. Irvin doesn’t have a great fastball so precision will be his thing. JoJo was inconsistent this year at AA and Medina was very inconsistent at only high A. Realism lowers the expectations quite a bit.

    1. Why don’t we just put Cole Irvin in as our 4th or 5th starter and move on. We never trust a pitcher like him from our minor leagues we will continue to trade high assets for one or will spend mega bucks for a Chad Billingsley, Clay Buccholtz, Jeremy Hellickson, Carl Morton, Fernando Valenzuela, Freddie Garcia, etc.

      1. Irvin will get a chance in spring training and if he does well again next year he’ll be in the conversation for call ups.

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