Clearwater Threshers Recap – 7/21/2018

Lots of rain outs today, so here’s some random stats.  Among qualifying players, Luis Garcia (PHW) is ranked fourth with his .375 AVG.  Jake Holmes (PHE) is eighth with his .337 AVG. Abrahan Gutierrez (PHW) is ninth with his .333 AVG.Corbin Williams (PHW) cracks the top twenty with his .313 AVG.

  • SLG: 14th, Luis Garcia .486; 17th, Jake Holmes .478; and 20th, Carlos De La Cruz (PHE) .474.
  • OBP: 10th, Luis Garcia .416; 14th Yerwin Trejo (PHW) .411; 20th Julio Francisco (PHE) .390.
  • OPS: 8th, Luis Garcia .902; 16th, Jake Holmes .861; and 20th, Carlos De La Cruz .841.
  • Carlos De La Cruz is tied for 3rd with 4 HR.
  • Jake Holmes is 3rd with 21 RBI.
  • Jake Zoellner (PHE) is first with 18 walks.
  • Corbin Williams (PHW) and Yerwin Trejo are tied for fourth with 10 stolen bases.
  • Ben Brown (PHW) is 8th with a 2.25 ERA.
  • Victro Santos (PHE) is second with 31.1 IP.
  • Victor Santos is first with 31 K, Ben Brown is fourth with 29 K.
  • Ben Brown’s 1.25 WHIP is 16th in the league.

In the team categories, West  leads with a .318 AVG and East is third with a .284 AVG.

  • Both teams are in the top four or five for OBP, SLG, and OPS.
  • East is tied for second with 18 HR, West is last with 2.
  • West batters have the fewest Ks – 160.
  • West leads with 45 SB.
  • East’s 3.57 ERA is 6th, West’s 4.55 is 13th.
  • West has given up the fifth fewest hits.
  • East is tied for 4th fewest HRs allowed – 6.
  • Walks issued – 3rd East with 78 and 6th West with 91.
  • East’s 205 strike outs ran 8th.

The Clearwater Threshers (49-48) beat the Florida Fire Frogs, 2-1.  Adonis Medina (4.48) had a 90 game score.  He was dominant.  He gave up two, two-out singles in the first inning, then retired the next 19 batters he faced.  He walked none and struck out a season and career high 12 batters.  He left with a 1-0 lead.  Grant Dyer (1-1, 6.89) blew the save with a run in the eighth, but got the win.  (This stat really needs to be redefined.)  Jake “that’s Jakob with a K” Hernandez (2.68) came in and and retired the Frogs in order and logging a K that makes the nickname work.  He got the last out on a come backer.

The Threshers took a one-run lead in the first ining on Jose Pujols’s RBI single that drove in Mickey Moniak.  Medina made the run hold up for seven innings.  After the Frogs took the lead in the eighth, the Threshers came right back in the bottom of the inning with a go ahead run on a throwing error.  We’ll take it.

Moniak (.247) went 1-4 with a run scored and a double.  Pujols (.290) went 1-4 with an RBI.

Okay, back to Medina.  I was a little concerned when he worked through a 23-pitch first inning.  He struck out two batters.  Eight foul balls extended the inning.  No at bat was less than 4 pitches.  But, Medina came roaring back with low pitch counts in the next five innings (6, 12, 9, 12, 12).  He finished with a 16-pitch seventh inning that brought his night to an en end with 90 pitches (67 strikes, 74.4%).

Medina’s FB was 92-96 mph.  But after throwing 15 in his 23-pitch first inning, he threw just 18 the rest of the way.  He threw 27 CH, 29 SL, and 1 CB.

Medina’s slider was virtually unhittable. After recording his first K on a 95 mph FB, he notched his Ks on 9 SL and 2 CH.  Ten Ks came swinging, the 2 looking were on SL.

Medina induced 20 swings and misses (29.8%), not surprising with 12 K. This is how they came by inning (his CH ran 85-90 mph and his SL 78-83 mph) –

  1. 93, 95 K, 86 mph
  2. 88, 88 K
  3. 81 K, 88
  4. 81, 79, 83 K
  5. 78, 82 K, 81 K
  6. 82, 82 K, 83, 81 K
  7. 81 K, 87, 89 K

After the first inning, Medina seemed to abandon his FB.  by the fourth, it looked like he was spotting it to set up his CH and SL.  As you can see, it worked.

It looked like the Frogs were swinging FB on most pitches.  When Medina did throw it, they seemed to hack at the strikes and flail at the CH and SL.  Of the 33 FB Medina threw, 23 were in the strike zone.  They missed 2, took 5, fouled off 9, got base hits on 2, and put 5 in play for outs.

By contrast, Medina threw 44 CH and SL for strikes – they missed 18, took 13, fouled off 9, got no hits, and put 4 in play for outs.

Medina threw 16 of 23 first pitch strikes (69.6%).  At one point from the fourth thru seventh innings he threw 8 FPS in a row, and struck out 8 of the last 10 batters he faced, and the side in the seventh, his last inning.

Medina pitched as well as any pitcher I’ve seen this season.

After the game, I walked into Joe Jordan coming out of the Phillies’ suite.  I took the opportunity to ask him a quick question.  Since there seems to be a lot of interest here in moving Jake Holmes and/or D.J. Stewart up to Williamsport, I asked him if that was likely. Mr. Jordan said that he thinks they are both at the place where they need to be. That, in spite of the injury to Alec Bohm who will be returning to WPT, the Phillies have others who they need to see at third including some college guys (Lancaster and Kroon, I guess, as well as Henriquez whom he didn’t mention).  He didn’t rule a move out completely, leaving himself some wiggle room.  But, he said it wasn’t in their plans at present.

GCP Phillies East (16-12) lost to the Tigers West, 5-1.  Dominic Pipkin (3.07) was dominant with five, one-hit innings.  He kept the Tigers off the score borad, walked none, and struck out five.  Alejandro Made (2-2, 4.85) blew the save and suffered the loss.  In 1.2 innings he gave up 5 runs (but only one was earned) on 5 hits.  He walked none.  Bailey Cummings (0.57) had another scoreless outing, allowing one hit and striking out two in 1.1 innings.

The Phillies only run was unearned.  They loaded the bases with no outs in the sixth inning, with the benefit of a throwing error.  They finally scored with two outs when Logan Simmons was hit by a pitch and forced in a run.

Juan Aparicio (.389) went 2-4 with a double.  He is catching the eye of some of the scouts I talked to at the Threshers’ game.

East is in first place with a 3.0 game lead.  The Tigers East are second.

GCL Phillies West (14-11) trailed Yankees West 1-0 when suspended in the first inning.

Kyle Gogloski pitched the first and only inning.  He gave up a solo HR to the first batter, and gave up a base hit to the second batter, but then struck out the next three batters.  Then the game was suspended.

West is in second place, 3.5 games back.  The Tigers West are first.

Lehigh Valley (59-39) beat Toledo, 7-1.  Cole Irvin (9-3, 2.69) was limited to five innings due to a high pitch count (103 pitches, 63 strikes).  He gave up just one run on 3 hits.  His 4 walks and 8 strike outs helped boost his count.  Tyler Gilbert (1.35) struck out 3 in two innings.  Tom Windle (3.92) pitched a no-hit, 2-walk inning.  Zac Curtis (3.03) finished with a one-hit inning.

The first place IronPigs (by 6.5 games), scored first with 4 runs in the third, and tacked on 2 runs in the sixth and one in the ninth.  Joey Meneses (.306) went 1-2 with a run scored, double, RBI, and 3 walks.  Dylan Cozens (.228) went 1-4 with a double, 2 RBI, and a walk.

The Pigs banged out 11 hits, 8 doubles, and drew 8 walks.  Adron Chambers had 3 hits, Dean Anna and Ryan Goins two.

Reading (45-53) postponed, rain.  The Phils are in fifth place and 10.5 games back.

Lakewood (58-38) postponed, rain.  The first-half champs are in first place again with a half game lead. 

Williamsport (12-20) postponed, rain.  The Crosscutters are in last place in a six-team division, 9.0 games back.

DSL Phillies Red (16-26) beat the Angels, 9-1.  Red is in seventh place, 13.5 games back.

DSL Phillies White (25-15) beat the D-backs2, 8-5.  White is tied for first place.

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

The rosters and lists are up to date as of July 20th.

Transactions (newest transactions in bold text)
7/22/18–RHP Efrain Morales assigned to DSL Phillies White from DSL Phillies Red.
7/21/18–RHP Adam Cox assigned to GCL Phillies West from GCL Phillies East.
7/21/18–GCL Phillies East placed LHP Anton Kuznetsov on the 60-day DL retro to 7/18/18
7/20/18–Reading placed LHP JoJo Romero on the 7-day DL. Oblique strain
7/20/18–Philadelphia sent RHP Luis Garcia on a rehab assignment to Reading
7/20/18–Philadelphia optioned RHP Enyel De Los Santos to Lehigh Valley
7/20/18–Philadelphia recalled 3B Mitch Walding from Lehigh Valley
7/20/18–Reading activated 2B Drew Stankiewicz from the 7-day DL
7/20/18–Lakewood sent Robinson Martinez on a rehab assignment to GCL Phillies West.
7/20/18–RHP Luis Ramirez assigned to Lakewood from Williamsport
7/20/18–1B Edwin Rodriguez assigned to Williamsport from Lakewood
7/20/18–LHP Will Stewart assigned to Williamsport from Lakewood
7/20/18–RHP Jake Kinney assigned to GCL Phillies East.
7/19/18–Philadelphia signed free agent RHP Tyler Fallwell to a minor league contract.
7/19/18–CF Roman Quinn assigned to Clearwater from Lehigh Valley
7/19/18–C Gabriel Lino assigned to Reading from Clearwater
7/19/18–RHP Ranfi Casimiro assigned to Reading from Clearwater
7/19/18–LHP Jonathan Hennigan assigned to Clearwater from Lakewood
7/19/18–RHP Tyler Fallwell assigned to Lakewood
7/19/18–C Mitchell Warke-Edwards assigned to GCL Phillies East.
7/19/18–C Freddy Barreto assigned to DSL Phillies Red from DSL Phillies White.
7/16/18–Philadelphia Phillies signed RHP Jake Kinney.
7/18/18–RHP Cristofer Cruz assigned to DSL Phillies White from DSL Phillies Red
7/18/18–C Freddy Barreto assigned to DSL Phillies White from DSL Phillies White (?)
7/17/18–Lakewood sent Robinson Martinez on a rehab assignment to GCL Phillies East.
7/17/18–Christopher Duran assigned to DSL Phillies Red from DSL Phillies White
7/16/18–Lakewood released 1B Greg Pickett.
7/15/18–Philadelphia placed Zach Eflin on the 10-day DL retro to 7/12/18. Blister.
7/15/18–Philadelphia traded LHP Hoby Milner to Tampa Bay for cash.
7/15/18–Philadelphia recalled RHP Enyel De Los Santos from Lehigh Valley
7/15/18–Lakewood placed LHP Kyle Young on the 7-day DL
7/15/18–1B Maximo De La Rosa roster status changed by DSL Phillies Red.
7/15/18–DSL Phillies Red placed C Ryan Asencio on the 60-day DL
7/15/18–SS Albert Jerez assigned to DSL Phillies White.
7/15/18–RHP Jhostyn Marin assigned to DSL Phillies Red from DSL Phillies White.

27 thoughts on “Clearwater Threshers Recap – 7/21/2018

  1. Does anyone have an idea of when it will be possible to get an idea of how serious Romero’s Oblique strain is?

  2. Moniak’s been on base in 15 straight games. He’s had a hit in 14 of them but only 2 of them were multi-hit games. He’s hitting .291 over the stretch and he’s had 8 BBs too. Senzel might look better right now but Moniak’s 3 years younger; although Senzel is out for the season.

  3. Medina is certainly the story of the night. I’d sure like this kid pitching for us in philly one day. I hope he didn’t just pitch himself out of town for a pen arm.

      1. Really like to see how he would do against AA hitters at this point.
        Age22 season is next year, so I see no harm in getting him in Reading for their last 6/7 weeks.

      2. I really need to see Medina pitch – I guess I didn’t fully realize the extent to which he is a 4 pitch pitcher. The reports of the stuff sound a lot like Aaron Nola. Excellent breaking pitches and a FB that can be plus due to movement when he has good command. Very impressive. Feeling better and better about not including him in a trade. Sometimes the best trades are those that are not made.

        1. He seems to throw harder than Nola and matches the more traditional thought process of a what a plus fastball is.

          I get the impression with Medina that he’s really just learning himself, his mechanics and the mental side of the game. The stuff seems to be present but at times he’s more hittable than he should be, or he’ll throw in a clunker. If he gets those things down, the upside is big.

          1. Yeah, if he continues this surge he could end up a top 40 prospect this winter. If I’m the Phillies, I trade major leaguers before I trade Medina or Sanchez. The Eagles have this approach down – as exhibited by the timely Bradford trade.

          2. Understood, but people underestimate the nasty Nola 94-96 rising, moving FB – he gets no credit for that pitch, but it’s as nasty as it gets and it makes the change and curve even more unhittable.

            1. True. He just doesn’t hit those numbers with the frequency Medina does, I think. But pitchers who are known as control guys sometimes don’t get credit for having really good stuff. Be it Nola, Halladay, Lee or the patron saint of control artists, Greg Maddux.

            2. Very true. Halladay became known as a control pitcher, but part of his effectiveness was that he had 80 command plus he threw most pitches 93 and 94. Once he lost 4 MPH between 2011 and 2012 it was over – he had to reinvent himself and couldn’t do it. He didn’t get “old” – he lost the velocity he needed to make his stuff effective.

            3. What is underestimate imo is this. I saw people say how I got on nola cause I didn’t believe last year he was tor guy. What they failed to say is he has increase his velo 4 miles or more. Which has made his other stuff better.

            4. In fairness to Halladay, his velocity wasn’t the only thing that went; his command wavered also. He still could have been a good #3 pitching 89-91 because of the movement he still got on everything, but he couldn’t hit corners like he did before either. Once he was throwing 88 with average command at best, the movement couldn’t save him.

            5. Halladay tore his labrum then and had to have surgery in May 2013.
              He said his labrum had been fraying for awhile up untill then. .

            6. I don’t think a pitcher like that just loses his command. I think he had to throw with a lot more effort, particularly due to the pain, and it wrecked him.

      3. Extremely SSS, but let’s check in to see how the Manny Machado trade looks for Baltimore so far:
        Dean Kremer, Rylan Bannon, and Breyvic Valera … have not played yet
        Yusniel Diaz … 1 for 4 (single), 3 K’s
        Zach Pop … ERA is infinity, 0 IP, 3 ER, 2 H, 2 BB, 0 K

        Meanwhile:
        Adonis Medina … 7 IP, 0 ER, 2 H, 0 BB, 12 K
        Jhailyn Ortiz … 4 for 10 (including a double), 2 RBI’s, 3 BB, 1 K

        Nice job (so far), DD.
        This will be worth continuing to monitor. Like I said earlier this week, things happen for a reason/sometimes the best trades are the ones you don’t make.

  4. Moniak’s progress is nice to see. The biggest criticisms were plate discipline and power and he’s addressing both this month. And, no, I wouldn’t move him and might even start him in Clearwater next year if need be – he needs the confidence as much as he does the reps. He’s 20, so if he’s making progress, he’s still ahead of the game. The next month for Moniak is huge.

    1. Agree catch…let him be and Randolph too.Both are young and need to continue to figure things out. Failure is not the worst thing in the world anyways. You learn more from it than winning all the time. Next month is big for both and I also agree, both will start next year where they are at now.

      1. I’m pretty sure C starts next year in Reading. On Moniak, I think they will play it by ear, but if it were my choice, I’d like to see him first get 100 ABs in Clearwater.

      1. Yeah, I guess so – when you’re failing every month looks critical and when you first start to succeed the next month is big to ensure that the improvement wasn’t a mirage. So let me restate this – Moniak needs to show he has traction. How is that?

  5. Not sure how to embed a tweet.. so, copy/paste hete

    103 seconds of absolute filth from #Phillies RHP prospect Adonis Medina.
    FB 93-95 – elevates and runs up and in
    SL 80-81 – two plane tilt
    CH 88 – plus arm action – FIRM
    💪🏿🔥💯
    Worked mainly SL/CH combo 3rd time through the order
    UN-🍴ing Touchable!

    1. Wes … thanks for sharing that tweet. In the Futures Game last Sunday, Medina showed tremendous movement on his pitches. He now just needs to develop his command of his four pitches. The other day, I posted a report from Keith Law (from last summer). Law loves Sixto Sanchez, but he says he’s spoken to some scouts who like Medina better than Sixto.

      BTW … for anyone trying to post a tweet … click the down arrow in the upper right hand corner of the tweet, then hit copy link to tweet, finally … paste here on PP.

  6. Thanks for asking JJ about those two GCL third basemen, Jim. Kroon and Henriquez don’t seem like guys you would hold back a real prospect for. I know Holmes hasn’t played much 3B but he could also work on that in the NYPL and at this point he’s beating up on guys that he’s a year or two older than. It just seems odd to me for a guy they gave a 4th or 5th round bonus to.

    Luis Garcia got a large bonus to sign, is young for the GCL and is putting up a really good line with good peripherals; he seems like the real deal. I have him ranked 8th in the system right now.

    1. Yes, Garcia and Holmes are flying up my list too, they both look really good. How do we rank all these hitting catchers all of a sudden?

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