Phuture Phillies 2017 Reader Top 30 … Conclusion

Deivi Grullon was your selection for the #40 prospect in the organization with 36 of 162 votes (22%). Francisco Morales finished second with 29 votes (18%). Others receiving double-digit votes included Josh Stephen (13 votes, 8 %), Mauricio Llovera (12 votes, 7%), Malquin Canelo (11 votes, 7 %), and Brock Stassi (11 votes, 7%).

Deivi Grullon was signed by the Phillies as an international free agent out of the Dominican Republic on June 20, 2013 as a 17-year old.  He was assigned to the GCL Phillies the next day.

Grullon quickly gained a reputation as a strong defensive catcher.  When he hit for average in the GCL (.273/.333/.364/.697) high expectations were established for the young prospect.

In 2014, Grullon saw action at three levels.  He was pulled out of XST and made two early starts for Clearwater.  After a brief return to XST, he was shipped to full-season Lakewood where he started 23 games before finally landing in Williamsport.  Grullon had a combined 227/.267/.297/.564 across all three levels.  Depending on the level, he was giving up 3.0 to 4.5 years to the average age.

Grullon returned to Lakewood for all of the 2015 and 2016 season.  In 2015 he slashed .221/.273/.335/.608 with 8 HR.  He had never hit more than one in his previous two seasons.  He improved to .256/.320/.375/.695 with 6 HR in 2016.

Grullon has consistently thrown out 28% of base stealers throughout his career with one exception.  In 2015, he threw out 33 of 102 for a 32.4% rate.

Here are thumbnails on the other prospects who finished high this poll.

Francisco Morales was signed as an international free agent out of Venezuela on July 2, 2016 as a 16-year old.  He spent the summer at the baseball academy in the Dominican Republic and came stateside for Fall Instructs.  He’s a 6’5, 220 pound RHP.  He was the 22nd ranked international prospect by MLB, the 5th pitcher and the 3rd RHP, and the top prospect out of his home country.  His fastball had been recorded by scouts at 92-95 mph. He threw one inning in Instructs.  I saw him throw 92-94 in that inning.

Josh Stephen was drafted by the Phillies in the 11th round of the 2016 MLB June Amateur Draft out of Mater Dei HS (CA).  He signed on June 22, 2016 and was assigned to the GCL Phillies.  The 6’0, 185 pound outfielder has an advanced hit tool and was hitting in the .270s as late as August 24th before tiring and finishing .253/.339/.370/.709 with 2 HR.

Mauricio Llovera was signed as an international free agent out of Venezuela on February 12, 2015 as an 18-year old.  He pitched as a 19-year old in the VSL in 2015.  He had a 7-1 record as a 20-year old in the GCL in 2016 with a 2.0 BB/9 and a 9.5 K/9.  I saw him pitch several times.  The one game I got velo on him he was 94-96, touching 97 mph.  Chris King had him in a similar range in two other starts without the 97.  The late bloomer is 5’11, 200 pounds, and throws right-handed.

Malquin Canelo was signed as an international free agent out of the Dominican Republic on May 31, 2012 as a 17-year old.  He spent his first season in the DSL before coming stateside and being fast-tracked through the organization.  He reached Clearwater as a 19-year old in 2014 but was over-matched at the plate and returned to Williamsport then Lakewood.  He made it back to Clearwater in June of 2015 and slashed .250/.296/.323/.619. He spent the entire 2016 season in Clearwater and slashed a similar .246/.294/.330/.624. He has played all but 4.0 of his 3643.0 innings at shortstop.  For a guy whose calling card is his glove, I find his Fld% a concern.  His .965 in 2015 in half a season in Clearwater is his high-water mark.  He posted a .958 in 2016.  He’s a slightly built 5’10, 160 pound right-handed batter.  Last season, Canelo was one of two prospects that scouts from other organizations and publications came to see.  The other was Carlos Tocci.

Brock Stassi was drafted by the Cleveland Indians in the 44th round of the 2010 MLB June Amateur Draft, opted to return to school, and was drafted by the Phillies in the 33rd round of the 2011 MLB June Amateur Draft out of the University of Nevada-Reno.  After some so-so seasons at the lower levels, Stassi broke out with a .295/.347/.399/.746 at Clearwater in 2013.  After some struggles in Reading in 2014, he posted a .300/.304/.470/.863 in 2015 with 15 HR and 90 RBI.  (Yeah, I know the Reading Effect.)  And he followed that up with 12 HR in Lehigh Valley in 2016 and a .267/.369/.437/.806 slash.

Final Prospect Rankings –

  1. J.P. Crawford
  2. Jorge Alfaro
  3. Mickey Moniak
  4. Roman Quinn
  5. Nick Williams
  6. Franklyn Kilome
  7. Sixto Sanchez
  8. Rhys Hoskins
  9. Dylan Cozens
  10. “C” Randolph
  11. Scott Kingery
  12. Kevin Gowdy
  13. Harold Arauz
  14. Andrew Knapp
  15. Jhailyn Ortiz
  16. Adonis Medina
  17. Mark Appel
  18. Nick Pivetta
  19. Ben Lively
  20. Alberto Tirado
  21. Elniery Garcia
  22. Nick Fanti
  23. Cole Stobbe
  24. Drew Anderson
  25. Andrew Pullin
  26. Carlos Tocci
  27. Ricardo Pinto
  28. Jordan Kurokawa
  29. Thomas Eshelman
  30. Jesse Valentin
  31. Jose Pujols
  32. Bailey Falter
  33. Victor Arano
  34. Daniel Brito
  35. Tyler Viza
  36. Seranthony Dominguez
  37. JoJo Romero
  38. Cole Irvin
  39. Arquimedes Gamboa
  40. Deivi Grullon

22 thoughts on “Phuture Phillies 2017 Reader Top 30 … Conclusion

  1. Thanks for the extraordinary effort, Jim, organizing, posting, monitoring and coordinating the top 30 well into “extra innings”!

  2. So for the last week i kept checking Phuture Phils on my phone and everyday Sleepers and Breakouts popped up.sThought maybe Jim was resting up for spring training. Had no idea all the other posts were going on. 😦

  3. In our top 39 “legitimate” players, I see the following for where they’ll start:

    ML 1
    AAA 10
    AA 9
    A+ 8
    A 6
    A- 5

    Note: Kurokawa doesn’t belong in our top 40 so my 40th guy is Marchan. He’ll start in the GCL.

    A lot of guys clustering near the top of the organization. That’s great because if one guy fails, there will be another to take his place. Not at all positions but at a lot of them. It’s not all about top of rotation guys or top position players. Depth is a key ingredient to a minor league system. It’s really nice to have both but the Phil’s organization is mostly about depth right now.

    1. @bellman – the organization depth in SP and OF will push Ortiz, Stobbe, Stephen, Gowdy and Fanti into EST and start in WIL.

      There will be a squeeze in SPs in LHV, REA and CLW so it might also push some younger prospects down to LWD. LWD projected pitching staff consist of Medina, JoJo, Falter, Paulino, Ranger and anybody who will be squeezed out in the upper levels. There can be a spot for Sixto, but the Phils may not want Sixto to jump from GCL to a full season LWD to monitor his innings.

      So 5-6 of the Top 40 will start in WIL in 2017 and push to LWD after the Rule 4 draft.

      1. That’s now how roster squeezes work. The top prospects are placed at the level and role the Phillies development staff views as optimum for them. The lesser prospects will fill in around them. Gowdy will be in the Lakewood rotation, if the development staff thinks he can handle it. An older pitcher will go to the pen or XST until an injury or somebody’s poor performance creates an opening. The same is true of Stobbe and Ortiz. They will go where the Phillies think is best for them. I think that means Lakewood for Stobbe. Ortiz probably isn’t ready for that, unless he surprises in ST.

        1. @allentown – what’s best for prospects doesn’t always mean that they play at the highest level possible. both of us as just speculating so we can agree to disagree. we’ll see how it all play out in the next coming weeks.

          Moniak is the only one confirmed to go to LWD and I still believe that Ortiz, Stobbe, Stephen, Gowdy and Fanti wiil go to EST and start in WIL. I will not be surprised if Sixto joins them.

      2. FWIW, I’ve heard Gowdy and Sanchez to start in Lakewood. I personally would hold them back in XST and then send them to Lakewood in June just to limit their innings pitched. Counting the playoffs, Gowdy threw 11 (plus HS innings) and Sanchez threw 61 in his second year as a pitcher.

        1. @Jim – I see this as possibility. But nonetheless, I see the Phils sending Gowdy and Sixto to XST instead of joining the LWD staff with short stint in WIL or go directly to LWD if some of the SP prospects in the upper minors will be traded or released.

  4. What does all that top level clustering mean for the 40 man roster and the potential to lose a prospect to next years Rule 5 draft? And, what number of these guys make the big club in the next year?

    1. I get your drift. 7 of the 10 guys who will start in AAA are already on the 40 man. Crawford, Cozens and Hoskins are not right now. Crawford will have to added, if he is called up this year. I believe Hoskins and Cozens have to added by year-end. 3 of the 9 AA guys are on the 40 man. Kingery and Eshelman are the highest on our top 30 who are not on the 40 man. Both don’t need to be on the 40 man for a while. Viza, Pullin, Tocci and Arano are the other guys. Tocci and Pullin made it through Rule 5 at least once. Viza and Arano, I think, would need to added to 40 man or risk losing in Rule 5 at the end of this year. If some of Kendricks, Saunders or Hellickson are traded at dealine, there could be some slots. There are other guys, who will be available at the trade deadline like Neris, Gomez and others. It will be about who gets picked up and whether they have to added to 40 man. Right now, that Rule 5 is a long ways away.

    2. One of the reasons that I think the Phillies will try to work a deal where they trade several of these AAA level prospects for a young, controllable major league regular. Not only do they have to worry about the 40-man crunch but in the end, all of them won’t fit on the same big-league roster.

      They have a number of solid prospects but many of them are competing for the same job.

      1. On the other hand, the 5 vets on one-year deals will be gone by the trade deadline or the end of the season.

  5. Its actually impressive that Mauricio Llovera misses the top 40 because there are so many good players in the system. I have been voting for him the last few rounds to no avail. But looking at the list many in the 30 to 40 plus list could be considered top 25 type of prospects and in many systems they would be.

    1. even prospects outside the Top 40 like Canelo, Stephen, Edgar Garcia and Morales are legit Top 20 prospects in most farms and less notable prospects like Mauricio, Dyer, Blake Quinn, Marchan, Lenin Rodriguez, Jonathan Guzman and Jose Taveras can squeeze in the bottom half of the other farm’s Top 30.

    1. I know that the following listing format does not look good in a blog but if you put it in a spreadsheet it is a good way to compare sixteen different rankings of Phillies prospects for 2017. I hope you can read this info.
      1st column after player name is Phuture Phillies ranking.
      2nd column after player name is Phillies Minor Thoughts ranking.
      3rd column after player name is John Sickels ranking.
      4th column after player name is Philly Baseball Insider Scout.com ranking.
      5th column after player name is Baseball America ranking.
      6th column after player name is Keith Law’s ranking.
      7th column after player name is Baseball Prospective ranking.
      8th column after player name is FanGrapics ranking.
      9th column after player name is Phoul Ballz ranking.
      10th column after player name is Prospects 1500 ranking.
      11th column after player name is 2080 ranking.
      12th column after player name is Prospects 360 ranking.
      13th column after player name is Fake Teams ranking.
      14th column after player name is Razz Ball ranking.
      15th column after player name is Top Prospect Alert ranking.
      16th column after player name is Allentown Morning Call ranking.
      The first set of numbers before the players name is my ranking.
      1 J.P. Crawford , 1 , 1 , 1 , 2 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , — , 1 , 2 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1
      2 Jorge Alfaro , 2 , 2 , 3 , 1 , 3 , 3 , 2 , 3 , — , 10 , 4 , 3 , 2 , 5 , 4 , 4
      3 Mickey Moniak , 3 , 3 , 2 , 4 , 2 , 2 , 4 , 2 , — , 2 , 1 , 2 , 3 , 2 , 2 , 2
      4 Franklyn Kilome , 6 , 5 , 5 , 9 , 7 , 10 , 5 , 8 , — , 4 , 3 , 5 , 6 , 10 , 3 , 8
      5 Nick Williams , 5 , 4 , 8 , 3 , 4 , 12 , 3 , 13 , — , 3 , 5 , 4 , 4 , 6 , 5 , 3
      6 Roman Quinn , 4 , 7 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 8 , 8 , 5 , — , 11 , 9 , 6 , 7 , 7 , 10 , 7
      7 Sixto Sanchez , 7 , 6 , 7 , 14 , 5 , 15 , 7 , 4 , — , 8 , 6 , 11 , 10 , 11 , 8 , 29
      8 Dylan Cozens , 9 , 13 , 10 , 11 , 10 , 5 , — , 10 , — , 6 , 10 , — , 9 , 4 , 6 , 6
      9 Rhys Hoskins , 8 , 12 , 6 , 7 , 6 , 4 , — , 9 , — , 5 , 19 , 10 , — , 3 , 11 , 12
      10 Cornelius Randolph , 10 , 8 , 13 , 8 , — , 14 , 9 , 20 , — , 9 , 27 , 7 , 5 , — , 9 , 5
      11 Andrew Knapp , 14 , 15 , 27 , 13 , — , — , — , — , — , 14 , 12 , 9 , — , — , 7 , 11
      12 Kevin Gowdy , 12 , 10 , 14 , 12 , — , — , — , 11 , 22 , 12 , 8 , 8 , 8 , 12 , — , 9
      13 Adonis Medina , 16 , 9 , 27 , 18 , — , 13 , 6 , 6 , — , 15 , 31 , — , — , 14 , — , 16
      14 Drew Anderson , 24 , 26 , 27 , 29 , — , — , — , 16 , 23 , — , 22 , — , — , — , — , —
      15 Ricardo Pinto , 27 , 21 , 27 , 15 , — , 20 , — , 32 , 18 , 13 , — , — , — , — , — , 15
      16 Scott Kingery , 11 , 11 , 9 , 10 , 9 , 6 , — , 12 , — , 7 , 13 , — , — , 9 , 13 , 13
      17 Nick Pivetta , 18 , 14 , 12 , 20 , — , 21 , — , 23 , — , 19 , — , — , — , — , — , 17
      18 Jhailyn Ortiz , 15 , 17 , 27 , 21 , — , 19 , — , 15 , 27 , 21 , 16 , — , — , 18 , 12 , 20
      19 Mark Appel , 17 , 19 , 27 , 16 , — , 7 , — , — , 21 , 20 , 18 , — , — , 8 , — , 10
      20 Elniery Garcia , 21 , 22 , 27 , 22 , — , 9 , — , 7 , — , 23 , 11 , — , — , — , — , 19
      21 Alberto Tirado , 20 , 23 , 27 , 24 , — , 18 , — , — , — , 34 , 17 , — , — , — , 15 , 27
      22 Cole Stobbe , 23 , 20 , 16 , 26 , — , — , — , — , 29 , 18 , 24 , — , — , 17 , — , 14
      23 Andrew Pullin , 25 , 28 , 27 , 31 , — , — , — , 30 , 28 , 46 , — , — , — , — , — , —
      24 Thomas Eshelman , 29 , 27 , 27 , 17 , — , — , — , 21 , 25 , 17 , — , — , — , — , — , 18
      25 Victor Arano , 33 , 31 , 18 , — , — , 16 , — , 22 , 26 , — , 7 , — , — , — , — , —
      26 Jesmuel Valentin , 30 , 33 , 19 , 36 , — , — , — , — , 24 , 28 , — , — , — , — , — , —
      27 Arquimedes Gamboa , 39 , 16 , 43 , 33 , — , — , — , 28 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      28 Daniel Brito , 34 , 18 , 27 , — , — , 17 , — , 14 , — , 29 , 25 , — , — , 13 , — , —
      29 Jose Pujols , 31 , 35 , 43 , 23 , — , — , — , 31 , 19 , 27 , — , — , — , 16 , — , 25
      30 Joely Rodriguez , — , 41 , 17 , — , — , — , — , — , — , 26 , — , — , — , — , — , —
      31 Josh Stephen , — , 46 , 43 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , 23 , — , — , — , — , —
      32 Harold Arauz , 13 , — , 43 , 28 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      33 Ben Lively , 19 , 32 , 11 , 5 , — , 22 , — , — , 17 , 16 , — , — , — , — , 14 , 23
      34 Bailey Falter , 32 , 29 , 43 , 38 , — , — , — , 17 , — , 42 , 14 , — , — , — , — , —
      35 JoJo Romero , 37 , 30 , 27 , 25 , — , — , — , 29 , — , 22 , 26 , — , — , — , — , 24
      36 Malquin Canelo , — , 36 , 43 , 32 , — , — , — , 33 , 31 , 24 , — , — , — , — , — , 21
      37 Tyler Viza , 35 , 42 , — , 30 , — , — , — , — , — , 48 , — , — , — , — , — , —
      38 Kyle Young , — , 43 , 43 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      39 Seranthony Dominguez , 36 , 24 , — , 41 , — , — , — , 18 , — , 47 , 29 , — , — , — , — , —
      40 Deivi Grullon , 40 , 34 , 27 , — , — , — , — , — , 30 , 32 , — , — , — , — , — , 28
      41 Cole Irvin , 38 , 37 , 27 , 34 , — , — , — , — , — , 33 , — , — , — , — , — , —
      42 Carlos Tocci , 26 , 25 , 15 , 19 , — , — , — , 19 , 20 , 25 , 28 , — , — , — , — , 22
      43 Jonathan Guzman , — , 39 , 43 , — , — , — , — , — , — , 44 , 30 , — , — , — , — , —
      44 Francisco Morales , — , 38 , — , 48 , — , — , — , — , — , 40 , — , — , — , — , — , —
      45 Grant Dyer , — , 50 , 43 , — , — , — , — , — , — , 35 , 15 , — , — , — , — , —
      46 Nick Fanti , 22 , — , — , 35 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      47 Juan Luis , — , 45 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , 36 , — , — , — , — , — , —
      48 Brayan Gonzalez , — , 40 , 43 , — , — , — , — , — , — , 45 , — , — , — , — , — , —
      49 Brandon Leibrandt , — , — , — , 45 , — , — , — , — , — , 49 , — , — , — , — , — , —
      50 Jiandido Tromp , — , 47 , 43 , 44 , — , — , — , — , — , 50 , — , — , — , — , — , —
      51 Ranger Suarez , — , — , 43 , — , — , — , — , — , — , 43 , — , — , — , — , — , —
      52 Grenny Cumana , — , — , — , 47 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      53 Edgar Garcia , — , 49 , 43 , — , — , — , — , — , — , 41 , — , — , — , — , — , 26
      54 Chace Numata , — , — , — , 27 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      55 Cam Perkins , — , — , — , 39 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      56 Brock Stassi , — , — , — , 37 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      57 Jesen Therrien , — , — , — , 46 , — , — , — , — , — , — , 20 , — , — , — , — , —
      58 Alexis Rivero , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , 21 , — , — , — , — , —
      59 Luke Williams , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      60 Jose Taveras , — , 48 , 20 , 43 , — , — , — , — , — , 30 , — , — , — , 15 , — , —
      61 Kyle Martin , — , — , 43 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      62 Mauricio Llovera , — , 44 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      63 Luke Leftwich , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      64 Luis Carrasco , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      65 Felix Paulino , — , — , 43 , 40 , — , — , — , — , — , 37 , — , — , — , — , — , —
      66 Rafael Marchan , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , 32 , — , — , — , — , —
      67 Austin Bossart , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      68 Darick Hall , — , — , 43 , 50 , — , — , — , — , — , 31 , — , — , — , — , — , —
      69 Mitch Walding , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      70 Zack Coppola , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      71 Mark Laird , — , — , 43 , 42 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      72 Jose Nin , — , — , — , 49 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      73 Blake Quinn , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , 39 , — , — , — , — , — , —
      74 Shane Watson , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      75 Aaron Brown , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —
      >100 Jordan Kurokawa , 28 , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , — , —

  6. Just for sake of comparison, where do we think Josh Tobias would have fit in this list, had he not been traded?

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