Box Score Recap – 8/4/2016

Roman Quinn came off the DL as the Phillies made more than a dozen transaction moves Thursday.

Lehigh lost and dropped out of first place behind David Buchanan who pitched 4-hit ball for eight innings.  Unfortunately, that came after a 4-hit, 4-run first inning.

Reading beat Bowie behind a seven home run attack.  SEVEN.  Dylan Cozens had five RBI giving him 101 this season.  101.

Clearwater beat Dunedin to move into a tie for the FSL North Division.  Zach Coppola debuted with 2 hits.

Mark Laird debuted in Lakewood with 2 hits.

Both DSL teams won.  The Phillies2 team shutout the Red Sox2 team for the second consecutive day.

Lehigh Valley (69-43)  Lost to Scranton, 4-2.  David Buchanan (8-6, 3.83) pitched a complete game.  He held Scranton scoreless after a 4-hit, 4-run first inning.  The IronPigs couldn’t make up the early deficit.  They were held to 3 hits by J.P. Crawford, Nick Williams, and Darin Ruf (.286).  Williamd hit a solo HR (12).  Ruf had the other RBI (50) and 2 walks. Buchanan turned an unassisted double play.  After a single, “Clint Frazier pops into an unassisted double play, pitcher David Buchanan. Ben Gamel out at 1st”.

Not among the 15 transactions reported below is the promotion of Jake Thompson from Lehigh to the Phillies.  The transaction should post tomorrow since he is slated to make his first MLB start Saturday in SanDiego.

  • #1 Crawford (.257) went 1-2 with 2 BB.
  • #3 Williams (.282) went 1-4 with a HR (12) and RBI (57).
  • #5 Thompson (11-5, 2.29) – DNP.
  • #11 Appel – DL, season-ending surgery to remove a bone spur.
  • #12 Knapp (.266) DNP.
  • #24 Lively (6-4, 3.50) – DNP.
  • #28 Ramos (0.38) – promoted to Philadelphia.

Reading (74-37)  Beat Bowie, 12-8.  The Phils fell behind 4-0 in the first and battled back to take a 5-4 lead on solo HR by Rhys Hoskins and Andrew Pullin (.384) in the first and second innings; and a solo home run by Dylan Cozens, a SF by KC Serna (.299), and a solo home run by Mitch Walding.  The Baysox surged back in front, 8-5, in the fifth inning.

The Phils tied the game, 8-8, in the bottom of the inning on another solo HR by Hoskins, an RBI ground out by Jake fox following a Cozens’ triple, and another Pullin solo HR.  The Phils shattered the tie in the eighth inning on Cozens’ grand slam.

Tyler Viza (4.34) gave up 8 runs on 13 hits (3 HR) in 4.0 innings.  Jesen Therrien pitched 3.0 shutout innings in his Reading debut.  Hoby Milner (5-3, 1.88) and Miguel Nunez (2.31) pitched one shutout inning apiece.

The Phils turned 3 double plays.  Cozens picked up an OF assist cutting down a runner at home (Cozens-Kingery-Lino).

  • #4 Alfaro (.288) DNP.
  • #7 Cozens (.287) went 3-4 with a triple, 2 HR (32), a BB, and 5 RBI (101).
  • #8 Quinn (.286) came off the DL and went 1-5.
  • #13 Hoskins (.285) went 2-3 with a HBP, 2 HR (33), 2 RBI (98), and BB.
  • #14 Kingery (.279) went 1-5.
  • #16 Pinto – (4-4, 4.46) – DNP.
  • #18 Pivetta – (10-6, 3.55) – DNP.
  • #19 Eshelman (3-2, 5.60) – DNP.
  • #26 Cordero – (13.50) – DNP.

Clearwater (64-44)  Beat Dunedin, 7-6 in a ninth inning walk off on Zach Green’s RBI single.  Luke Leftwich (5.94) pitched well for most of the night.  he took a no hitter into the fourth inning and gave up two, 2-run HR.  He hung around for 5.2 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 4 K. Ulises Joaquin (2.17) pitched 1.1 scoreless innings.  Matt Hockenberry (3-1, 1.34) blew the save in the ninth, but got the win when the Threshers rallied in the bottom of the inning.

Zach Coppola made his Clearwater debut with 2 hits.  Josh Tobias (.433) went 1-4 with a walk.  This was the first time I got to watch both former BlueClaws.  My first impression is that Coppola will fit nicely at the top of the order in place of Kingery.  He doesn’t look like he has the gap to gap power that Kingery has, but he looks even quicker on the base paths. Tobias looks like a competent #2.  He reminds me of some one …. Willie Carmona, Stony Brook.  Only when Carmona got to Clearwater he couldn’t hit.

Carlos Tocci hit the heck out of the ball tonight.  Maybe he hears Coppola’s footsteps?  Anyway, he crushed a ball into the RCF gap in his first AB.  The CF made a great running catch to rob him of an XBH.  Tocci laced a line drive into the LF corner for a double his second AB.  He had a hard ground single up the middle in his third AB.  And a SF his fourth AB.  He walked and scored the winning run in the tenth.

Tocci had 2 RBI.  So did Kyle Martin.  He hit a 2-run HR, his 14th to give the Threshers an early lead.

After the Threshers came back to tie the game at 4-4, they attempted a double steal.  Tocci got  good jump to take second, Tobias broke for home on the throw and the fielder ignored Tocci and fired home to cut down Tobias at the plate.  That was the third out of the inning.  Martin was at the plate.  He had homered in his previous at bat.  Why?  Why.

The Threshers had another bizarre play on the base paths the next inning.  Martin led off with a walk and Chace Numata singled.  Two outs later, Malquin Canelo hit an RBI single to right.  On the throw to the plate, Canelo got hung up allowing Martin to score.  In the rundown, the fielder running him back to first tossed it to the first baseman a little too early.  No one had thought to cover second and it looked like Canelo could easily reach second.  However, Numata had broken for home and the first baseman fired home and beat Numata who stopped and tried to return to third.  He was eventually tagged out.

Later in the game.  Numata was warming up Hockenberry in the top of the ninth.  On the obligatory throw down to second, it looked like his leg buckled.  He limped off the field and gave way to Austin Bossart.  It looked like his right legg.  I think he had a leg injury that slowed his development a couple years ago.  Since Gabriel Lino’s promotion to Reading, Numata has gotten most of the catching starts.  He is batting .303 and is among the leaders in CS%, 42.6% (26/61).  They are 34-24 in his starts.  Darn shame if this turns out to be season ending.

Leftwich threw 91 pitches/53 strikes.  He threw at least 65 FB and sat 90-92 mph, touching 93 3 times in the first two innings.  All 4 hits in the fourth inning came off fastballs.  line drive single at 92, HR off an 89, HR off a 91, and a line drive 2B down the LF line off a 92 mph FB.  Those 4 balls were hit hard.  There was no doubt on the two home runs.

However, Leftwich also got three of his four K swinging at fastballs – 92, 92, and 87 (cutter?).  His K looking came on an off speed pitch at 84 mph.

Leftwich only threw 11 of 24 first pitch strikes.  He had four, 3-ball counts – his 2 walks and 2 singles.

  • #20 Garcia (9-3, 2.72) – DNP.
  • #22 Canelo (.250) went 2-4 with an RBI.
  • #23 Tocci (.273) went 2-3 with a double, BB, SF, and 2 RBI.

Lakewood (50-58)  Lost to Hagerstown, 8-6 in 10 innings.  Jose Taveras (4.02) gave up 3 runs on 8 hits.  He walked NONE and struck out six.  Zach Morris took the loss on 3 unearned runs in the 10th, however these runs were fueled by his own throwing error and HBP.

Mark Laird’s debut included 2 hits and a walk.  Damek Tomscha (.305) went 2-5 with 3 RBI. Jose Pujols had 3 hits including his 20th HR.

  • #6 Randolph (.242) went 0-2 and was ejected during his at bat in the 6th inning.
  • #9 Kilome (3-8, 4.32)- DNP.
  • #27 Pujols (.230) went 3-5 with a HR (20) and RBI (68).
  • #29 Edgar Garcia – 1.0 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB.
  • #30 Tirado (3-1, 4.72) – DNP

Williamsport (27-19)  Lost to Staten Island, 4-1. Adonis Medina struggled with his control.  At one point he had thrown 24 strikes among his first 48 pitches.   With Mark Laird off to Lakewood, Juan Luis led off and went 0-5 with 3 K.

  • #17 Medina (4-2, 2.23) – 5.0 I, 5 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, 2 HR.
  • #25 Romero – DNP.

GCL Phillies (24-11) Lost to the GCL Braves, 6-1.  Luis Carrasco (3-2, 2.31) got knocked around in the first two innings, but only one of the five runs he gave up was earned.  However, it was his own throwing error that led to his demise.  Every batter in the Phillies line up had a hit except Josh Stephen (.277).  Jose Antequera (.300) had two hits.  Ben Pelletier (.283) had their lone RBI in the ninth inning.

Aaron Brown began his rehab.  Aaron Brown.  Not HS pitcher Andrew Brown.

  • #2 Moniak (.324) went 1-4 with a HBP.
  • #10 Gowdy (0-1, 4.50) – DNP.
  • #15 Stobbe (.244) DNP.
  • #21 Jhailyn Ortiz (.279) went 1-4 with a double.
  • Stephen (.277) went 0-3 with a BB.
  • Miller (0-0, 3.00) – 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K.
  • Andrew Brown (0-0, 2.19) – DNP, not even left field.
  • Stewart (1-2, 5.91) – DNP.
  • Fanti (4-0, 1.38) – DNP.
  • Sixto Sanchez (3-0, 0.67) – DNP.

DSL Phillies (23-29)  Beat the DSL Dodgers2, 8-7, on the strength of a 6-run first inning.

  • Jonathan Guzman (.303) went 1-3 with 2 BB and an RBI.
  • Keudy Bocio (.227) DNP.
  • Simon Muzziotti (.253) went 2-4 with a BB.
  • Dixon Gutierrez (.275) went 1-3 with a BB and RBI.

DSL Phillies2 (31-21)  Beat the DSL Red Sox2, 6-0.  Three pitchers shutout the Red Sox holding them to 6 hits.

  • Leonel Aponte (2-4, 3.09) – DNP.
  • Rafael Marchan (.354) went 3-5 with 2 RBI (25).

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

Extra Innings:

  • 8/5 – Phillies optioned Elvis Araujo to Lehigh Valley.
  • 8/4 – Phillies optioned RHP Phil Klein to Lehigh Valley.
  • 8/4 – Philadelphia Phillies recalled LHP Elvis Araujo from Lehigh Valley.
  • 8/4 – Anthony Vasquez assigned to Lehigh Valley from Reading.
  • 8/4 – Osmel Aguila assigned to Lehigh Valley from Reading.
  • 8/4 – Reading activated CF Roman Quinn from the 7-day disabled list.
  • 8/4 – Jesen Therrien assigned to Reading from Clearwater.
  • 8/4 – Mitch Walding assigned to Reading from Clearwater.
  • 8/4 – Reading sent LHP Aaron Brown on a rehab assignment to GCL Phillies.
  • 8/4 – Clearwater placed RHP Jairo Munoz on the 7-day disabled list.
  • 8/4 – Clearwater activated RHP Ranfi Casimiro from the 7-day disabled list.
  • 8/4 – LHP Jeff Singer assigned to Clearwater from Lakewood.
  • 8/4 – OF Zachary Coppola assigned to Clearwater from Lakewood.
  • 8/4 – Herlis Rodriguez assigned to Lakewood from Clearwater.
  • 8/4 – Lakewood activated OF Mark Laird from the 7-day disabled list.
  • 8/4 – Lakewood activated RHP Harold Arauz from the 7-day disabled list.
  • Organization Rosters are up to date.

94 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 8/4/2016

    1. Like that final scene in Field of Dreams, I can imagine the traffic heading to Reading as ‘people will come’…..standing room only. What an attraction!

  1. Hey Viza, what are you doing giving up 2 HRs to Terdoslavich? Sorry, I just needed to type that out to see what it looked like. By the way, Viza had a -1 game score. That is, by far, the worst game score I’ve ever seen. Walding with his first AA hit and it’s a HR. If he played in Reading everyday he might hit 25 HRs. He also had his first AA error and it was his first defensive touch.

    Pullin has 7 HRs in 27 games in Reading. Over a 140 game season, that would be 36 HRs. I’m not saying he can hit 36 HRs in a season but the extrapolation is fun. Hoskins, with 29 games or so left in the season, could hit 8 or 9 more. If we want to be more accurate, we could determine his home/away splits and extrapolate his real projected number but that would take a little more work. Cozens would be right behind him.

    Bossart shouldn’t be much of a step down from Numata but I hate to see a kid get hurt. If Numata’s injury is season ending, who gets the call to replace him? Grullon could get a taste of A+ but how much playing time will/should he get? My suggestion is let Grullon play out the A season and bring up Wilson Garcia. He’s the backup catcher in LKW although he’s playing DH/1B. There are 3 active catchers in Wmsprt so Rivero is the oldest and has been playing very well. If you want to keep the best catcher at Wmsprt to try for the playoffs then Henri Latrigue should go up. The GCL is stacked with catchers so they could provide one to either LKW or Wmsprt. How about Rafael Marchan from the DSL. I’m just kidding… or am I?

    Medina might be running out of gas. He’s already pitched 48 innings which is more than his 2 previous seasons. In this last 4 games, 1 awesome and 3 less than stellar games, he has a 4.50 ERA. He was lights out in 5 early games. I guess you let him play out the season to strengthen the arm but let’s not get him hurt.

  2. In two games Cozens was 7/9 with 5 homers, 2 triples, 12 Rbis plus a steal and an assist. That my friends is filling a stat sheet.
    The Reading lineup is the best I can ever remember of a phillies minor league team. I’m happy for Walding to get moved up. I’m sure he wondered if it would ever happen. Therien is another guy moved up who has a chance to be a major leaguer reliever, along with Arano. And it’s hard what to make of Pujols. 230 but with 20 homers in a tough league to hit homers is something. Thompson to the Show!

    1. Murray…I think you are correct about the Reading team being the best in Phillies minor league history…and probably near the top of any minor league teams, besides the power aspect, but when taken into consideration wins and losses….21 more wins put them at a .670 winning percentage.

    2. What is the Blue Claws record for homeruns? Pujos has to be close and he hasn’t struckout for 3 straight games.

    3. From seeing Cozens in Lakewood, it’s really great to see how much development he’s made. I’m excited to see his future.

  3. AA ISO leaders (Not updated to include last night’s stats)

    Southern league – Palka, .277
    Texas league – Bergman, .263

    Eastern – Cozens, .314
    Eastern – Hoskins, .294

    1. For other levels:

      AAA – Gallo, .316
      A+ – Demeritte, .300
      A – Gittens, .235
      -A – Wrenn, .262

  4. “C” looks frustrated. Jim reported he was tossed from the game. Hope to see him go on a tear.

    1. Nobody’s arm is as strong as Alfaro’s. But he had the best pop time in the organization last year, and he is accurate with his throws. Now that he started hitting with consistent playing time, his only flaw may have been passed balls.

    2. If you haven’t seen Alfaro’s arm, think Johnny Bench. Seriously! Best arm I’ve seen since Bench, the best I ever saw.

  5. Seriously what is up with Reading’s field? It is hard not to take numbers with a grain of salt when you see these offensive explosions. Sometimes a few of my buddies will take a trip to the local little league park (230 out to left) and have a home run derby. I feel like that is what it is like playing in Reading.

    1. Is it fair to “half” their numbers at home, because of the field? If so, they would still be having pretty good seasons. Not record setting, but solid.

    2. BP Prospect of the day…again.

      Dylan Cozens, OF, Philadelphia Phillies (Double-A Reading): 3-4, BB, 3 R, 3B, 2 HR, 5 RBI.
      So nice, let’s do it twice. If you can explain the physiological click that happens sometimes to set hitters off on rampages like Cozens’ current run, well, you’re probably better at science than I am. After leaving the yard thrice on Wednesday, he hit two more dingers yesterday, mixing in a triple for good measure. That’ll do, yeah. Scouts remain skeptical it translates, and my one live look revealed can-see-it holes in the swing. But all I really know is that homeboy has legit power and he really, really likes hitting in Reading.

        1. People got all over me in ST when the Phillies had a home run derby down there and I called the park a “band box” which, clearly, it is. But that doesn’t mean that Cozens, Hoskins, Alfaro and Pullin aren’t good prospects.

        2. The wind and the temp were not factors the last 2 nights. On Tuesday the temp was 79 with 0 mph wind and on Wednesday the temp was 81 with a 5 mph wind to right field. Most of the hr hit in Reading go against the prevailing wind to left field.

          1. If that is the case, and dimensions are similar to most parks…330ft down the lines …370ft gaps and 400ft CF….then what is the reason for Reading’s park factor being so hitter friendly? Elevation … temperature…foul ball area?. All factor into batted ball distance or hitter advantages.

            1. It’s got to be the crazy hot dog vendor. Ride an ostrich, throw out hot dogs, and the guys hit like nuts.

              I’m not sure what it is. It’s possible the wind might carry above the stadium. The hitting background might also be especially good. But it’s something – and it’s pretty much always been like this.

            2. As you can see…Reading in the EL is right there at the top for HR favorability at 1.48, just ahead of Erie, which is about a mile from Presque Isle Bay with truly bandbox dimensions..LF: 312′ CF: 400′ RF: 328′
              ……As for Reading, Cozens and Hoskins have hit 48 of their 65 at FirstEnergy. I wonder if management ever thought of moving back the fences 10 feet or so.

              Hadlock Field Portland Sea Dogs – 1.130
              Northeast Delta Dental Stadium New Hampshire Fisher Cats – 1.058
              Jerry Uht Park Erie SeaWolves – 1.444
              Metro Bank Park Harrisburg Senators – 1.137
              FirstEnergy Stadium Reading Fightin Phils – 1.482
              Prince George’s Stadium Bowie Baysox – 1.111
              The Diamond Richmond Flying Squirrels – 0.866
              NYSEG Stadium Binghamton Mets – 1.042
              Canal Park Akron Aeros – 0.712
              New Britain Stadium New Britain Rock Cats – 0.769
              Peoples Natural Gas Field Altoona Curve – 0.725
              ARM & HAMMER Park Trenton Thunder – 0.742

            3. There is a little league fence surrounding the warning track in Reading. Whereas CBP there is a 13′ and 10′ wall, except in dead center. Makes a little ‘bit of difference. That being said, they still have decent power to do what they are doing, and we are all hoping it translates to the show.

  6. BP’s…..The Call Up:
    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=30045

    Scouting Report: Thompson is a big righty, built to log innings in the middle of a major-league rotation. He will flash more than just third starter potential at times, especially on the days when his slider looks like a bona fide plus pitch instead of only flashing. This year it has backslid a bit, so he can lack a true swing-and-miss offering, but his four-pitch mix has been enough to dispatch International League hitters. The fastball has sat more in the 89-92 range in 2016, and the change and the curve require further development to even grade out at average. Thompson fills up the zone with all his pitches, but the command profile lags behind his control at times.

  7. I come into my office in the morning, open up my email from Jim, read the Reading game report and just start laughing out loud to the point where I have to close my door.

    Are these guys for friggin real? 7 home runs last night? HAHAHA. And Alfaro didn’t even play! They’re down 4-0 and it’s almost like they felt bad for Bowie: “Here you go little fella’, we’re going to spot you 4 runs to make you feel good”.

    Simply unreal. In all the years I’ve been following Phillies baseball, this is by far the best affiliated team I’ve ever come across.

  8. Very nice to see Walding promoted to Reading. Kid has really worked hard and shown improvement in K/BB rates this season. Not to mention a 40 year old H Mart getting ABs in Reading had just become silly.

  9. REALLLL….Y I THINK THEY MOVE THE WALL OUT SOME TO MMMMM Philadelphia. . Funny 2 players that over 30 Hr in that stadium were the Bull and Howard there power was fine in the majors. The really need 2 more relievers up on the parent club. I thought Milner and Joey Rodriguez would be ready by now. I mean Garcia and Sev aren’t getting it done. JJ Hoover was down by Cincy I’d take a shot at him.also Jimmy Cordero too.

    1. I don’t think Milner or Joely are major league material. Garcia is a frustrating guy, but he has a lot of ability and the team isn’t contending for a playoff spot, so I understand why they want to give him another shot – it’s probably the last shot too, for what it’s worth.

      1. I see Garcia as the pitcher version of Cesar. Very good tools and abilities and can look really good at times – but something is just not right.

        1. Yes, it’s a good point. The difference is that the “not right” things Garcia does are physical things that I’m not sure he can control. Cesar has actually improve quite a bit as a hitter and a fielder, but he makes the same or similar stupid mental errors again and again – it’s entirely unnecessary and really hard to watch. You wonder sometimes what the heck he is thinking out there – or not thinking.

      2. Milner and Joely can be LOOGY. Considering how much value RPs (particularly lefty’s) cost in MLB now, I will not easily write off both Milner and Joely.

          1. that’s relative and not even looking at the 2016 stats. a 24/25 yo fringe prospect(s) who can only do one thing (i.e. LOOGY, platoon player) has no place with a deep farm system. I think we can both agree that the Phils has a deep farm, and the fact that the Phils kept them means that still see something in both Milner and Joely.

            Not saying that Milner and Joely are legit prospects, but I think they still have value and will not easily write them off considering the team still has a lot of fungible arms that I think are worst than Milner and Joely.

            If there’s still roster space, I wouldn’t mind seeing them pitch with the Phils and see what they can do.

          2. I don’t get it – of all people, we are you focused on Milner and Joely Rodriguez? They are org arms with essentially no value. Is it theoretically possible they could pitch in the majors? I guess, but right now, they are just filling out minor league rosters.

            1. I don’t know about Milner, but Joely has a major league arm and was really good in Reading this year. He kept the walks down, missed some bats and, maybe most importantly, his GB% was over 60%. Rough AAA debut for him, but I think he’s legitimately in the mix for a major league role in the future.

            2. Handzus. With all due respect, Joely does not have an especially good arm. He sits 87-89 and does not do anything that would stand out for a major leaguer. When I saw him in ST last year, I was pretty pissed off that he was the return on Bastardo who, at the time, had some value.

            3. Well, if Joely really is in the 93-96 range, of course, that changes the discussion completely and makes him an entirely different pitcher.

        1. I was at 2 of Pintos last 3 starts at home. Joel pitched in both of them almost all of Joely fastballs were sitting at 94-96 and he touched 99 twice in the first game and hit 100 mph on one pitch in the second game.

          That was an interesting situation when he hit 100 mph. The game was either tied or Reading was one run behind in the top of the 7th or 8th. The bases were loaded with 2 outs and a 3 and 2 count on the batter. The radio announcer said the batter was a good fastball hitter and Joel reached back and threw a 100 mph fastball by the hitter. I was astounded how late the batter was on the swing. I came away from that game really impressed with Joely. Incidentally that 100 mph pitch was the only pitch over 96 mph in that outing.

          1. Seriously? I have to tell you that what you are describing is a completely different pitcher than the one I saw last spring training in Clearwater and then again at Lehigh Valley. That guy had almost nothing in the tank. I’m not doubting the accuracy of your report, I’m just amazed at the difference between what you saw and what I saw. Damn pitchers are weird.

      3. I know Milner deserve a shot I’ve many a lefty with a good CU carve out a career. Joey Rodriguez per Winks can be very good against LHH. I think Garcia gets sent down when Thompson comes up.

  10. Hard to believe that Pullin isn’t in our Top 30. 22 year-old absolutely raking in AA even considering the Reading park factor. 112 AB (not the largest sample size) but he is hitting .396 on the road and .373 at home. K rate more than acceptable 20% and BB rate of about 8.5%. Power numbers need to be proven out but again I think CBP factors in as a positive in terms of hoping the power numbers translate at least to some degree.

    The other guy I’ve been keeping an eye on is Jesus Henriquez of DSL2 has played mostly 2B in the field. Granted he is an 18 year old but his numbers are pretty stellar. Coming up on 200 ABs and he is sitting at 10K (5%) and 25 BB (12.5%). Hitting .360, like to see more XBH but that seems to be a theme among the DSL hitters (maybe the park is a factor?).

    Anyhow both guys are sporting video gamish .430 OBP. The organization is now valuing pitch recognition and strike-zone management both guys seem to have mastered it at their current level. Both probably finish the year at their current level for different reasons but I am interested to see what the future holds for each.

    1. the depth of the farm and recent scouting success (trades, rule IV draft, IFA) are preventing decent prospects like Pullin, Valentin and Arano in the Top 30. It’s a good thing so I don’t worry about that.

    2. I think Pullin has a right to be frustrated at having been moved off of 2B. He’s on an incredible hot streak much like Knapp last year, but obviously his current numbers are not sustainable. He’s a much different player than Kingery and Valentin, but his value would be highest at 2B.

      It seems like the best case scenario for him would be to make his way to another organization where he can get back in the infield. His bat looks much better at second than in a corner outfield spot. I think he’s probably suffered more because of our crowded system than any other player.

      1. Agreed! I saw Pullin in Lakewood and he can definitely play 2B. Most people will probably agree that Chase Utley is the gold standard at 2b. Pullin is probably the closest to that standard that we currently have. Utley at 22 was in A+. Don’t get me wrong, the other 2B players good too but Pullin seems to mirror Utley with power and hitting. I don’t believe the Phillies will protect him in rule 5, so maybe some team will move him back to 2B. I can’t imagine Utley playing LF.

        1. If he keeps doing what he is doing with the bat, they will have to find a way to protect him, unless they can include him in a deal.

  11. From reading about Jake Thompson, he reminds me of Joe Blanton – not overpowering, a bunch of average pitches but throws strikes. Does that sound about right?

    If he hits peak Joe Blanton, I’d be fine with that. And a homer in the World Series!

    1. @joel – I truly believe that Jake’s SL can be and will be a true wipe out pitch. thus, he has a better floor than Blanton as Jake can be a solid BP arm as fallback. if everything goes well, he can be John Smoltz “lite”.

      1. KuKo….Smoltz did have more velo than Thompson. Early on Smotlz was a 94-95 guy in his career with that great slider to go with it. Now if Thompson gets that slider working for him….he may get the swing and misses.

        1. @romus – I didn’t go with the JoeBlow comparison because of the “average pitches” and “not overpowering”. I think Jake can be the mid-90s guy and I believe in his plus SL that’s why I made my Smoltz “lite” comparison.

          Lively is the one I can see who can be Joe Blanton.

          1. KuKo….yeah Ben Lively would fit good with Joe B.
            I haven’t checked any scouting reports on Thompson from 2013 or 2014 when he put up decent whiff ratio numbers….so do not know if he is a mid-90s guy.

            1. Thompson…BP
              2013…….. This second-round high schooler out of Texas was actually the first pick in 2012 for the Tigers because their first-round pick was lost in the Fielder signing. The big right-hander brings a solid three-pitch arsenal with him, highlighted by a low-90s fastball with great sink. The curveball and changeup need still need work, but at age 19 that is hardly a knock on him. The curve has more potential of the two, though neither projects to a plus pitch at this point. Thompson has a mid-rotation ceiling, which doesn’t require a ton of projection, given that the size and fastball are already in place.
              2014……. Not one word of Thompson’s story changed with his introduction to full-season ball: future quality mid-rotation starter in, future quality mid-rotation starter out. The 20-year-old’s slider is his best pitch, and makes it easy for him to rack up strikeouts despite work needed on his fastball command, changeup and nascent curveball. Thompson projects as more of a groundball machine, eventually. Early returns on the 2012 second-rounder are appealing, and while the upside doesn’t wow, he’s headed for a future as, well, a quality major-league starter.

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    2. Joel….spot on. Big Joe was a pitch-to contact guy….and Thompson, while in the Phillies org has developed into something similar. His whiff ratio in the Tigers and Rangers orgs were 9K/9….in the Phillies it has dropped into the 6/7 range per 9…but his GB percent has risen….tells me he may be using his 2seamer more than his 4seamer He is in the 89-92 velo range with his FBs. It is his slider that he really needs to have working for him going forward.

  12. Pullin will definitely be in the Top 30 this year. He has put together a really nice season. “C”, OTOH, has had, pretty much, a wasted season. Which is a real shame.

    1. What’s the scouting report on Pullin. Never saw him play. Only ask because on this site, scouting stat lines comes much more readily than eyewitness evaluation.

      1. Well, when Pullin temporarily retired at the beginning of the year, I was pretty bummed out because he was always one of the most impressive players in spring training. If you’re looking for a physical comp, think Daniel Murphy – he kind of looks like that and plays a similar type of game. He’s a nice little player and he would have been more valuable objectively and to the team if he played second, but I understand that he did not fare well there.

        Recently, with all the outfielders coming up and with Aaron Altherr appearing to be a perfectly fine centerfield option (always has a nice plus defensive WAR), I’ve been wondering if it might not be a bad idea to see if Odubel could slide back in at second. If you had Odubel at second and an outfield with Altherr in center, Nick Williams in right and Cozens/Hoskins (or another righty hitter) in left, that might be intriguing.

        1. Catch- Is left feild a possibility for Hoskins? I’ve always wondered if he could play a passable lf defense.

          1. I’ve heard he was once an outfielder, but he’d probably be on the low end of the defensive spectrum. My guess is, long term, they wouldn’t want a “hit only” righty guy in an outfield platoon. I think they’d use a guy with more well-rounded tools to serve in that role and also as a 4th outfielder who could fill-in on defense and play when other guys get days off. So, it might be okay for a season or two, but not long term. Ultimately, I think either Joseph or Hoskins is going to take the first base job – they’ll just have to fight it out. But maybe Hoskins plays a little left field while that battle plays out.

  13. One other thought – I know Reading provides some serious Coors Field effects, but bottom line is Cozens and Hoskins keep me checking my phone late at night to see how they did. That in itself is worth it to me – gotten me through some bad stretches from the big club.

    I know we need to be honest with their projects, but I choose to just enjoy it. The kids are putting on a heck of a show!

  14. While this Reading team is certainly one of the best, I am not sure it ranks as better than the 1983 team, still the best Phillie minor league club I ever remember. They finished the season an amazing 96-44 and it was well earned.

    They had 16, count em, 16 guys who made it to the majors, including guys like Darren Daulton, Juan Samuel, Don Carmen, Jeff Stone, Mike Maddux, and catcher Mike LaValliere.

    They stole 272 bases and I am guessing that they played in a bigger park as they hit only 107 home runs. Still, a minor league club that wins almost 100 games in a 140 game schedule deserves to be ranked as one of the best.

    What would elevate the 2016 club as possibly the greatest? A championship, not just a regular season title. That ’83 team went all the way to Game 5 of a 5 game series in the championship….and got beat by New Britain and a fellow named Roger Clemens.

    Not sure, but think he had a cup of coffee or two in the big leagues also!

    1. They played in the same park (not sure the dimensions were the same back then). The Reading park (First Energy Stadium) has hosted Phillies teams for a long time (over 45 years) and has been a minor league stadium since 1951. I like a lot of our minor league parks (Lakewood, Lehigh Valley and Clearwater are great too), but the Reading stadium, in my view, offers one of the quintessential minor league experiences anywhere and it’s certainly my favorite.

    2. Without googling, can anyone name the leading hitter on that 1983 Reading team, with 31hr and 102 rbi?

      Hard to predict future success, even at AA.

  15. By latter 2017 I can see the big league OF as Williams, Herrera and Cozens/Altherr with another rh bat (Perkins?) as 5th man. Goeddel should spend all of next season at AAA and then a decision can be made on what he is. Quinn is the x-factor pending a healthy span throughout. If so, he or another outfielder becomes a valuable trade chip.

    Infield of Franco, JPC, Freddy/Cesar (ugh, unless Valentin gets his shot) and Joseph/Hoskins.

    Catching corp of Rupp and Alfaro (again this is late ’17) with Knapp as utility man/emergency catcher, or maybe a decent trade piece.

    I would agree that platoons at several positions will help keep the kids fresh and allow the brass to determine who has major league mettle. In 2018 we’re ready to rock, with Kingery at 2b.

      1. Asche St Louis Bourjos the Mets Asche perfect for St louis . The Mets really need a CF that can defend.

  16. I watched the Reading game last night, Hoskins 1st HR was crushed, Pullin put a really nice swing on both his HR’s but the double he hit should have been a single as the OF took such a terrible route. Cozen’s 1st HR it looked like it was going to be a fly out but it just kept going. He massed the grand slam though. Wonder why they changed the lineup with Hoskins batting in front of Cozen’s. Also Walding’s HR was hit to dead center.

    1. hoskins bats 3d whenever alfaro takes the night off. should be back to alfaro-cozens-hoskins tonight

  17. Finally, a question answered about sixto … I like it! Another five shutout innings today

    Steve (Jenkintown): What the heck is a Sixto Sanchez? Obviously terrific numbers in the GCL but not a crazy K rate. Just a young kid with control who fools a lot of young hitters?

    J.J. Cooper: Not at all. He’s got mega-stuff to go with his control. One of the best young prospects in the Phillies system. A name to remember.

  18. It is not as if Reading stadium is a band box like the Polo Grounds was. To hit a home run in the Polo Grounds, you only had to hit it 277 feet at ground level down the left field line and only 254 feet on the second level down the left field line. To hit a home run down the right field line it was 258 feet. Babe Ruth hit a ton of home runs in the Polo Grounds as it was the home stadium for the Yankee from 1920 to 1923 then moved into Yankee Stadium where it was 296 feet down the right field line. The Polo Grounds was a major league stadium for over 60 years and served the New York Giants, New York Yankees, and New York Mets.

    1. The Polo Grounds was apparently a pitcher/hitter neutral park because it had such odd dimensions. It was 440 to left and right centerfields and 480 to dead center. It was not in any way designed for baseball and it’s amazing they played there for so long. Willie May was the perfect person to roam centerfield in the Polo Grounds. Similarly, Yankee stadium, while favorable down both lines and to right field, could be death to players who hit to left center (457 after it was shortened in 1937) and center – they had monuments actually sitting IN THE PLAYING FIELD in center field; I know, I was there as a kid.

  19. The impressive thing about Dozens isn’t just the home runs — heck, Matt Rizzotti and others have had similar power in Reading — it’s the power coupled with the athleticism (stolen bases and the ability to stay in the outfield).

    For the record, though, Cozens only played one year of high school football (yes, he had football scholarship offers because of his size and speed). But he was always a baseball-first guy, and he grew up in an area where baseball is played year-round. Somehow people have gotten the idea that he’s “new to baseball” or hasn’t played that much baseball or is a football guy converting to baseball — none of those are true.

    1. WestCoast…agree….when he was offered the AU scholarship for football many of the nationals assumed he was a 4-year football player in HS…..but after he left Desert Mountain HS to go to Chaparral HS for his senior year….that was his only season of football, as a DE and TE on offense, and that football experience/training was from mid-summer thru their championship game….on Saturday they won the championship in football, and on Monday he was in the hitting cage. Then that spring he hit 19 HRs and set the state record for HRs.

      1. Romus, the Texas Rangers were very interested in Dylan Cozens but the Phillies drafted him before they could. I hope he keeps his progression going in AAA and Philadelphia.

        1. Can you imagine….they drafted Gallo about 40 picks before the Phillies drafted Cozens…having those two in their system.

    2. if anything, hoskins is the one who might be considered “new to baseball.” in addition to playing baseball all 4 years of high school, he also played basketball for 4 years (as well as year-round aau ball) and football for 3. he did not start focusing exclusively on baseball until his freshman year of college , when he played left field (he was named to the freshman all america team). he also played outfield in the cape cod league following his sophomore year of college, and was the best hitter on a loaded team (casey gillaspie, dylan davis, kevin newman), he was drafted following his junior year after being named to the all america 3d-team and leading his small-college program to its first (and only) ncaa tournament bid. 2 years later, in his fifth year of playing baseball full time, he is dominating his age-appropriate professional league.

      there is no doubt cozens displays exceptional athleticism on the diamond, but his apprenticeship in developing his skills appears fairly normal and those skills are well practiced, . i dont think hoskins has been given his due as an athlete who has honed his craft to a relatively high level in a relatively short amount of time.

  20. It might be time for the Phillies to rethink their position on the DH for the National League. There could be a log jam come ’18-’19 with Joseph/Hoskins, Rupp/Alfaro/Knapp, Cozens/Williams/Herrera/Altherr/Quinn.

    1. TJ , Herrera , Altherr , Rupp are ahead of the game. There In the majors producing so there learning curve is a lot less. COZENS , Hoskins, Quinn , Alfaro haven’t even been to AAA . 2 they all have to stay healthy some thing have a way of working themselves out.

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