Box Score Recap – 8/3/2016

The Phillies placed Aaron Nola on the DL.  Lehigh’s starter, Phil Klien was called up to start in his place and they had to scramble to find a starter.  They called up a relief pitcher from Reading.  They lost and are tied with Scranton for the division lead.

Reading treated their fans to a power surge, courtesy of Dylan Cozens, Rhys Hoskins, and Jake Fox.  They coasted to victory over Bowie.

Clearwater’s Brandon Leibrandt made his season debut after spending the season on the DL in a loss to Dunedin.

Lakewood dropped a doubleheader scoring 1 run in each game.  Jose Pujols had their RBI in each game (and no strike outs).

The GCL Phillies raised their record to an organization best .706 winning percentage.

Lehigh Valley (68-43)  Lost to Scranton, 7-0, and fell back into a tie for first place with the RailRiders.  A couple of recent Reading call-ups gave up all 7 runs in the first five innings.  Phil Klein had been scheduled to start but was promoted to pitch in Aaron Nola’s spot when the latter was put on the DL.  Murray, Araujo, and Hinojosa one-hit Scranton over the final four innings.  However, who pitched for Scranton was probably moot since the IronPigs were held to 2 hits – by Sweeney and Perkins.  Knapp had 2 passed balls (13), but they may have been due to his unfamiliarity with Joely Rodriguez who was making his first appearance after being called up on 8/2.

  • #1 Crawford (.255) went 0-2 with 2 BB and a SB (7).
  • #3 Williams (.282) went 0-4.
  • #5 Thompson (11-5, 2.29) – DNP.
  • #11 Appel – DL, season-ending surgery to remove a bone spur.
  • #12 Knapp (.266) went 0-4 with 3 K.  (for the second straight night)
  • #24 Lively (6-4, 3.50) – DNP.
  • #28 Ramos (0.38) – promoted to Philadelphia.

Reading (73-37)  Beat Bowie, 13-0.  Tom Eshelman came off the DL and shutout the Baysox for six innings.  Mario Hollands (5.03) and Victor Arano (0.00) completed the shutout.  The Phils put together a 17 hit attack.  Cozens had 4 hits, KC Serna (.303) 3 hits, and Andrew Pullin (.370), Rhys Hoskins, and Osmel Aguila (.237) had 2 hits each.  Cozens was a one-man wrecking crew with 3 HR and 7 RBI.  Hoskins and Jake Fox (.257) each hit a solo HR. Cozens fourth hit was a triple his final AB.  He also managed to steal a base the one time he made an out on a fielder’s choice.

  • #4 Alfaro (.288) went 1-4 with a BB and RBI (55).
  • #7 Cozens (.282) went 4-5 with a triple, 3 HR (30), and 7 RBI (96).
  • #8 Quinn (.288) DL, oblique, rehabbing with the GCL Phillies.
  • #13 Hoskins (.282) went 2-3 with a BB, HR (31), RBI (96), and SB (18).
  • #14 Kingery (.289) went 1-5 with a BB, RBI, SB.
  • #16 Pinto – (4-4, 4.46) – DNP.
  • #18 Pivetta – (10-6, 3.55) – DNP.
  • #19 Eshelman (3-2, 5.60) – 6.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 5 K.
  • #26 Cordero – (13.50) – DNP.

Clearwater (63-44)  Lost to Dunedin. 7-2.  Brandon Leibrandt (0-1, 7.20) made his first start of the season.  He lasted 5 innings and threw 84 pitches.  He gave up 4 runs on 7 hits and 2 walks.  The killing blow was probably the 2-out, 2-run HR he gave up in the third.  The 3 runs Tom Windle (5.63) gave up in the seventh probably put the game out of reach.

Mitch Walding (.280), Joaquin Tromp (.233), and Malquin Canelo (.250) had 2 hits each.  Herlis Rodriguez (.209) and Chace Numata (.304) each had an RBI.

The Threshers are one game behind Dunedin in the second half.  There are about 30 games left and the Threshers could find themselves with the best overall record in the FSL but out of the playoffs with two second place finishes.

  • #20 Garcia (9-3, 2.72)
  • #22 Canelo (.250) went 2-4 with a double.
  • #23 Tocci (.273) went 0-5.

Lakewood (50-57)  Was swept by Greensboro, 3-1 and 4-1.  They took leads in both games but fell behind in the bottom half of the inning in both games.

Game One: Seranthony (2-2, 5.06) had faced the minimum when the BlueClaws handed him a 1-0 lead in the fourth.  He gave up a 2-run HR with the game tied and one out.  Two batters later Austin Davis (0.00) was brought in.  He faced 7 batters in 2.1 innings and struck out 6 of them.  Damek Tomscah (.308) and Deivi Grullon (.249) had 2 hits apiece.  Jose Pujols had their lone RBI.

  • #6 Randolph (.240) went 0-3.
  • #27 Pujols (.224) went 1-3 with with a double and RBI (66).

Game Two:  Franklyn Kilome settled down after a 4-run first inning (3 ER).  He struck out 6 in 4 innings.  He struck out three in his last inning.  Jake Waguespack (3.68) struck out 3 in the remaining 2 innings.  Grenny Cumana (.294) had 2 hits.  “C” Randolph reached base 4 times with a single and 3 walks.  Jose Pujols drove in their only run again, with a first inning double.  He didn’t strike out in either game.

  • #6 Randolph (.246) went 1-1 with 3 BB.
  • #9 Kilome (3-8, 4.32)- 4.0 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 5 K. (80 pitches)
  • #27 Pujols (.225) went 1-3 with a double and RBI (67).
  • #29 Edgar Garcia – DNP
  • #30 Tirado (3-1, 4.72) – DNP

Williamsport (27-18)  Lost to Staten Island, 4-1.  Bailey Falter (1-5, 3.46) gave up 4 runs on 7 hits in 6 innings.  According to Mitch Rupert in a story for the Williamsport SunGazette, Falter pitched well but for a 10 pitch stretch in the 6th inning.  John Hennigan (2.57) struck out 4 in 2 scoreless innings.  Kenny Koplove (2.65) struck out 3 in one inning.  Chandler Hall’s first HR accounted for the Cutters only run.  Hall played in place of Arquimedes Gamboa who was given the day off after being helped off the field Tuesday night.  No timetable for return to line up at this point.

  • #17 Medina (4-1, 1.66) – DNP.
  • #25 Romero – DNP.

GCL Phillies (24-10) Beat the GCL Braves, 4-3 in a rain-shortened game.  Will Stewart (5.81) gave up 3 runs in 5 innings on 4 hits and a walk.  He pitched well enough and showed some moxy after some bad outcomes.

  1. After a 1-out, 2-run home run in the second, Stewart struck out the next two batters.
  2. After a 1-out single brought home the Braves third run in the third, he recorded his third K and a fly out to end the inning.
  3. He got an inning ending ground out in the fourth after a two-out HBP and a fielding error.
  4. And, he picked a runner off first to end the fifth after the batter reached on a 2-out fielding error.

Stewart’s FB had a tic more velo today, he sat 88-90, and touched 91 mph.

Jhailyn Ortiz made a throw to home on the Braves’ third run that caught my eye.  He charged a ground ball to right and fired the ball to the plate.  I didn’t think he had a prayer, but the ball reached Nerluis Martinez on the fly and was only a little off line.  A perfect throw would have had the runner.  But, it was the first time I saw him make that type of throw.  Later on a similar play he made a more accurate throw and cut down the potential go-ahead run at the plate.  Steals bases and has an arm, too!  WooHoo!

Ben Pelletier (.273) and Raul Rivas (.225) had 2 hits apiece.  Daniel Brito, Mickey Moniak, and Rivas each had an RBI.  Pelletier scored the go-ahead run on a wild pitch with one out and the bases loaded.  The game was stopped and eventually called with the Phillies leading.

The Blue Jays won again, so the Phillies are still 4 games back with the second best record in the GCL.  Oh well.

Okay, here’s a scoop.  I asked Kevin Gowdy if he was going to pitch again this summer. After he skipped his last start, I wondered if the Phillies had decided to shut him down after 8.0 GCL innings and his high school work load.  Or maybe, they just wanted to skip a start so he could pitch deeper into the summer.  Anyway, he said, “Yes.” and further volunteered that he had a slight strain of his thigh.  He said it’s not serious.  The missed start was a precaution, and he expects to pitch again, soon.  Come to think of it, I noticed a wrap on his thigh during Tuesday’s game.

  • #2 Moniak (.327) went 1-3 with a double and RBI.
  • #10 Gowdy (0-1, 4.50) – DNP.
  • #15 Stobbe (.244) went 0-3.
  • #21 Jhailyn Ortiz (.280) went 0-2 with a BB.
  • Stephen (.288) DNP.
  • Miller (0-0, 4.15) – DNP.
  • Andrew Brown (0-0, 2.19) – DNP.
  • Stewart (1-2, 5.91) – 5.0 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 HR, 1 Balk, 1 HBP.
  • Fanti (4-0, 1.38) – DNP.
  • Sixto Sanchez (3-0, 0.67) – DNP.

DSL Phillies (22-29)  Lost to the DSL Dodgers2, 7-6.

  • Jonathan Guzman (.302) went 1-5.
  • Keudy Bocio (.227) DNP.
  • Simon Muzziotti (.247) went 1-5.
  • Dixon Gutierrez (.274) went 1-3 with 2 BB and an RBI.

DSL Phillies2 (30-21)  Beat the DSL Red Sox2, 8-0.  Three pitchers pitched three shutout innings apiece and held the Sox to 3 total hits.

  • Leonel Aponte (2-4, 3.09) – DNP.
  • Carlos Oropeza (.189) went 0-5.
  • Rafael Marchan (.343) went 2-3 with 3 RBI (23).

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

Extra Innings:

  • 8/3 – Phillies placed RHP Aaron Nola on the 15-day disabled list retroactive to July 29, 2016. Strained right elbow.
  • 8/3 – Phillies placed RHP Jeanmar Gomez on the paternity list.
  • 8/3 – Phillies recalled RHP Phil Klein from Lehigh Valley.
  • 8/3 – Phillies recalled Michael Mariot from Lehigh Valley.
  • 8/3 – RHP Gregory Infante assigned to Lehigh Valley from Reading.
  • 8/3 – Reading activated RHP Tom Eshelman from the 7-day disabled list.
  • 8/3 – Clearwater activated RHP Jairo Munoz from the 7-day disabled list.
  • Organization Rosters are up to date.

115 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 8/3/2016

  1. With Cozens, I have gotten past the home/road splits. Kid has power that will play anywhere and CBP is a hitters park anyway. I have also (mostly) gotten past my worry on k rate. But I still think his LHP splits are a major red flag. I think there is a 50/50 chance he learns to hit LHP. But until then, he is only a platoon corner OF. And I think he is likely to stay in the minors for a lot longer than people on this board hope/expect.

    1. Point well taken. But guys that can play the approximately two-thirds of games in ML started by RHP and mash still could be a key piece of the ML roster.

      1. And then he becomes a liability after the 6th inning when opposing managers bring in LHRP to face him and they embarrass him like they have Howard over the past several years.

        1. I think most people would agree that Michael Conforto has a much better hit tool than Cozens, and look at what is happening with him. Getting beaten up due to his big splits. Affecting his entire game. Really, really hard to have a major hole in your game at the MLB level. The scouting and pitching is just too good.

          1. So you don’t think a platoon of him and altherr one day couldn’t do good things? With Herrera and Williams in other two spots and then hopefully moniak later on. To me, that sounds more than okay. And that’s if he doesn’t make an adjustment.

            1. Yes!

              I generally agree with a young player platoon approach until they’ve proven themselves. There are exceptions of course relative to what you already have (eg: Crawford and Kingery).

            2. Not a fan of platoons for younger players. He will never learn to hit left handers if he never gets to face left handers. Too early to pigeon-hole the guy as a platoon OF..

    2. I’ve been saying that for a long time if his power is Hugh it plays anywhere . He been hitting lefties at a better chip he’s over .200 Gallo was at .151 .

        1. Lol V1 I don’t really like Gallo as a prospect when some people here were up on him but down on Cozens I brought that up.

  2. First off, I’m glad Viagra Marketing people have been monitoring my posts on here. They are now including men in their commercials.

    Second, Cozens launched an in your face attack on Hoskins yesterday. Three HRs and 7 RBIs. Hoskins didn’t back down. He socked a HR right back. Cozens HRs were all against righties and they were in Reading so of course those really don’t count. Or do they?

    Vic Arano gets his feet wet in AA. Welcome to the party.

    Randolph is having trouble hitting righties this year. Last year he hit .306 against them and .292 against lefties. This year it’s .227 against righties and .310 against lefties. It’s all in a very short season stats but maybe trending.

    The DSL1 game shows why hitting a few HRs or extra base hits can make all the difference. They had 11 hits, received 5 BBs, The opponent had 6 errors and a PB and they lose 7 – 6. The opponent also had 11 hits but only 3 BBs and the DSL1 didn’t have an error. But the opponent had 2 doubles and 2 HRs and the DSL1 on 2 doubles. The DSL1 Phils only had 3 RBIs whereas the other guys had 7.

    1. What I want to know is was that you or Roccom that the umpire kicked out of CBP the other night?

      1. bellman…that would be rocco,
        ……my seats are in the Hall of Fame, would be hard for anyone on the field to ever hear me from up there.

  3. Cozens and Hoskins both putting together memorable seasons as both are up to 96 Rbis with 30/31 homers. Cozens has 18 steals also so a season of 35/110/25 steals is about to happen and that’s amazing. Imagine if he could hit lefties…. Good to see Arano in AA and good to see Munoz back from DL. Quinn is expected to play at Reading today as he’ll make a great lineup even better. Who bats 1st, Quinn or Kingery??

    1. Murray…..when it comes to LHP…Cozens’ pop isn’t the issue….he has 9 of his 19 hits as XBH….he just cannot make contact enough..41% Krate. (11%BB)
      But he has only 105 PAs vs lefties this season. He needs to see more of them. And next season at LHV he will get to see the more crafty lefties and plenty of them.

      1. True. He just needs to lay off those sliders away. Like lots of guys…. If he wants to be a productive major leaguer, he has to improve on it next year or be a platoon player.

  4. How conflicted we are over Cozens!

    Will he be a beast or a bust (or something in between) at the major league level?

    Dave Parker? Paul O’Neill? Or Clint Hurdle?

    How will his skill set translate in the big leagues?

    Will he even make it to the Show? And if so, where will he fit in, what with Herrera, Altherr, Williams, Moniak, Randolph, Ortiz….?

    In Reading, where the team has been a juggernaut on its way to a possible championship, he’ll likely finish the season there. Then Lehigh in 2017, we hope….

    It’s both fun and arduous to follow this kid. Meanwhile we track along with all the other promising pieces of our phuture Phillies.

    1. Agree, just have to let it play out. Give him a chance at LV in 2017. But if he plays well give him a legit shot in Philly, do not go the Ruf route. I was always upset Ruf never got a fair chance. Cozens may be a bust like Stassi, but we won’t know. Look how Joseph surprised everyone.

      1. I look for both Hoskins and Cozens, and maybe also Alfaro to be in the AFL this fall.
        You normally do not see a teams top pitching prospect or two….but you get many experienced pitchers and a lot of reliever types also. For Cozens the more LHPs he sees the better off he will be.

      2. I don’t see Stasi as a bust. He was a late draft pick that exceeded expectations and put himself halfway on the map but never really on the map. Cozens was a high pick, 2nd round that has expectations plus had a huge breakout year that garners even more expectations now.

    2. I think we all agree what his strengths and weaknesses are – the only question is how does he project? With Cozens (as with many other players), it comes down to the hit tool and platoon splits. The power, I believe, is entirely real and, what makes it special is that he: (a) easily hits home runs to the opposite field; and (b) hits the ball out when he seems to barely touch the ball. I think he has legitimate 70, in game power. He also is fairly athletic – good fielder and arm and surprising speed. How many power prospects have a 95% steal percentage? It’s pretty unusual.

      So the question becomes – how does he project? It’s a hard question to answer. I am in the growing camp of people who believe that his talents are so special that he’s probably a legitimate major leaguer even if he is limited to a platoon role. As a lefty, this means he’ll easily get 400-450 at bats and, if he does, he could put up some scary numbers.

      Platoons are now a bit underrated and they are more infrequently used these days for the same reason that teams no longer have pinch hitting specialists. In the days when teams carried 10 pitchers and 15 position players, there was room for platoons and room for pinch hitters. With 12 pitchers on the roster these days, the pinch hitting specialists are all but gone and platoons are reduced. That said, teams still carry at least a 4th outfielder and usually a 5th outfielder. If they choose carefully, they could get a righty outfielder to pair with Cozens if it turns out he cannot hit lefties at all.

      1. To echo a point made above, I think with both Cozens and Hoskins, we are going to learn a LOT about their potential when we see how they do in AAA. AAA is where prospects first see tons of decent breaking pitches thrown at odd counts by experienced pitchers. Added to the difficulty for our prospects is that fact that hitters leave the hitting haven of Reading and go to the challenging hitting environment of Lehigh Valley and the IL in general. So it’s a double whammy challenge – better pitching and a more difficult hitting environment. And I’ll emphasize the pitching because there have been some comments here to the effect that AA is better than AAA – well, it isn’t. Although AA is more of a prospects level, hitters see consistently better breaking pitches in AAA and, usually, if you’ve excelled at AA you can hit a good fastball, but what often separates the AAAA players from the solid major leaguers is the ability to hit good breaking pitches and make quick adjustments to advanced pitching.

        We have had so many fine looking prospects who took a lot of time to adjust to AAA pitching, including guys like Chase Utley (2 seasons), Maikel Franco (over one full season), Andy Knapp, and now, J.P. Crawford. Now, I don’t see either Hoskins or Cozens falling flat on their faces like, for example, Matt Rizzoti or Cody Overbeck, but I do think they may struggle at first and exactly how long they will need to stay in AAA is not entirely clear.

        1. All true but the reality is that Hoskins has hit consistently and I expect he will hit at LHV next year also. Hopefully, Cozens will adapt and improve as he has done each year

          1. I don’t disagree with that – I think Hoskins will hit too. The question is whether he projects to hit better than Tommy Joseph. People are assuming that he will, but that’s not at all clear. For a guy who had barely played in two years, TJ is really ripping it up this year and could continue to improve (and, really, must improve if he is to have a shot at the permanent first base job).

          2. Murray,

            Hoskins got off to a somewhat slow start this year, so he apparently had some adjusting to do and did it. The same pattern next year at AAA would be great.

            Hoskins, I think, is the better hitter at this point. Certainly, his splits indicate that, as does his history of being consistently good at every level.

            But I’ll certainly be rooting for Cozens to overcome and be our version of Dave Parker, whose name 8mark invoked.

  5. Reading has 31 games left.I predict that the bash brothers will each get close to 40 homeruns each.Fun to watch their see saw competition.
    Since the all star break Cozens has had some tough games,hopefully this is the start of another hot streak for him.Like most power hitters he is prone to hot and cold streaks.
    I don’t think his huge increase in power this year is just Reading park related.earlier this year I read an article that last winter he focused on drills that made him quicker,and used less weights.

  6. BP Prospect of the Day:
    “Dylan Cozens, OF, Phillies (Double-A Reading): 4-for-5, 4 R, 3B, 3 HR, SB.
    What a difference a (couple of) year(s) makes. Cozens has gone from a guy who many believed was a non-prospect to—and this isn’t a universal opinion, but I’ve heard it—a legit middle-of-the-order option. Keep in mind that Cozens was a big-time football prospect, so he didn’t have the prototypical developmental path you see. There’s a ton of swing-and-miss here, but there’s also a chance for plus-plus power, and he’s made progress with the glove. At the very least, Cozens is interesting, and that’s not something we could say not all that long ago.”

    1. Cozens success in the MLB will hinge on who he has hitting in front and behind him and his cognitive ability to know how that will affect the pitches he sees.

      Howard never hit lefties all that well but with Werth hitting behind him and the type of AB’s that Werth was able to grind out gave Ryan in many instances a fighting chance against lefties.

      1. If things project out well for the Philies…he will have plenty of power bats around him, that is, if he stays with the Phillies…only the two corner OF positions seem to be his destination. .then there are Williams, Altherr, Randolph, and whoever else they draft to compete with….and not sure he has the time to learn first base.

  7. I saw a post from Peter Gammons the other day that caught my attention. He said the best indicator of hit tool excellence is more BB and more XBH than K. Kind of obvious I guess but it got me thinking if anyone in our system came close. I took a look at a few guys who I thought had the best chance in out system and no one is really close. The genesis of the post was to show that Benintendi actually has both. He has 74 BB, 74 XBH and 62K in 151 minor league games. Not the largest sample size but pretty impressive none the less. I wonder how frequent an occurrence this might be…

    1. I guess all the analyst have their own formula fro projecting a players future value.
      Fangraphs’ Eric Longerhagen , last week, stated in the last six years that he has evaluated players, any minor leaguer with a career 25% or higher K rate, has not made any impact at the MLB level…except Derek Norris.
      Though I like Peter Gammon’s when it comes to Hoskins and Cozens.

        1. Each needs to be above the K individually. So Kingery would need more than 63 XBH AND more than 63 BB to meet Gammons standard. Which seems kind of extraordinary. That’s why I was wondering about it as an indicator. I would bet there are guys currently in the majors who are considered to have an excellent hit tool who didn’t meet the criteria in the minors. What percentage did? Also I think Jim’s post below is relevant also. PG has an obvious sox bias, maybe he just found an anomaly in Benintendi stats and wanted to highlight it….

    2. Inrteresting Gammons post. I would put more faith in it if it came from an analyst who wasn’t from the Boston area. Like all Boston sports writers, Gammons has a blatant Boston bias, IMO.

      1. Agree, Jim. For a guy who’s nationally known and revered, he strikes me as rather provincial. Knows his stuff but seems to minimize anybody without Boston ties. Cataldi used to have him on the radio weekly. Left me high and dry.

      2. I agree with the bias. I would note that Betts accomplished that feat in the minors in between AA/AAA in 2014 but Jackie Bradley has never done so. Does Gammons think that Bradley doesn’t have an excellent hit tool?

        Without doing some large scale analysis, it seems to be more of a statistical oddity vs. an indicator of future success.

        Just for fun I looked up Tony Gwynn and Pete Rose and both did it almost every year in the majors. Now if that is the standard for an excellent hit tool then the bar is pretty high..

  8. Phillies OF sometime in late 2017 Williams, Herrera, Cozens, Alther, plus a pinch hitter type as #5

    1. going back down memory lane … Cozens/Altherr the next true outfield platoon since Thomspon/Incaviglia.

      If the team could bash like that (steroid driven) team, we wouldn’t have to worry about the late inning issues!

      1. Don’t forget Mickey M/M. Duncan and Eisenreich/Chamberlin . . . they had 3 platoons that year

  9. For some reason Cozens has always rubbed me the wrong way. I always saw him as immature and cocky . . . however this interview after his monster game last night makes him seem the opposite of my original thoughts, or maybe he’s just maturing.

    1. I observed Cozens during his stint in Clearwater. And I’ve followed him during spring training. Even had a few interactions with him. I found him to be a personable young man, and didn’t notice any of the negative traits you mention. But, I have found most (even all) minor leaguers to be nice, personable kids. I can’t remember one who I thought was acting poorly. The only players who I observed with negative personality traits that I can recall have been a very few major leaguers.

      1. I recall one Phillies minor leaguer with a holy than everyone else attitude that refused to sign autographs for little kids if they didn’t ask him nice enough…

    2. The story of him getting into an altercation with his HS coach is the catalyst for any reputation that Cozens may have. It also didn’t help that Keith Law insinuated that Cozens used some PEDs in high school either.

      1. K law should be sued if he did! We are talking about kids and he in no way could have anything more than a rumor, definitely nothing concrete. Why do that? Whether you like the pick or not

  10. I have never seen Dylan Cozens play. From his record he appears to be a natural athlete, similar to Jason Werth. He is relatively new to baseball. I will bet that given a year or so in AAA he will figure something out with left handed pitching. If things work out by ’18 or ’19. he will be surrounded by solid right handed hitters — Joseph/Hoskins, Franco, Altherr. There will be situations, where he is up with two outs, men on base, and facing a left hander. Those situations will not define a season. Remember not all left handers are lights out. I think there a real chance Cozens could be something

    1. Rob,

      I saw Cozens play this spring. My first impression was a very simple one: My goodness, this guy is big.

      That he is so big and runs the bases and plays an acceptable outfield with a good arm certainly suggests good things ahead, especially if he cuts down the K rate and learns to hit lefties, which is surely the repeated theme of this thread.

    1. Tom, did you notice who the Best Power was in the Southern League? The Phillies former draft pick Daniel Palka from Georgia Tech.

    2. Valentin as best d-2nd…..that’s a good thing.
      And Alfaro has answered the bell this year defensively it appears.

    1. Are you sure it’s not Aaron Brown rehabbing before returning to Reading or wherever they assign him?

      1. I didn’t see Aaron Brown on the roster. It is weird that Andrew Brown would be playing in the OF. The GCL has a lot of good to very good OF’ers already. Something is Hinkie.

    2. It’s a road game so I can’t confirm. I saw Aaron Brown at the Complex yesterday. I would think that he started his rehab today. I know the transaction hasn’t posted, yet. The Phillies are sometimes real slooooooow posting their transactions. For instance, Mark Laird should have come off his rehab last Thursday and yet he was still listed incorrectly on the WPT and LAK rosters last night. He’s supposedly reporting to Lakewood today.

  11. I noticed that Odubel is sitting again vs another tough lefty customer in Matt Moore today. Also sat vs Madbum Tuesday night. Is Pete resting him and simply giving Altherr time in CF? Or is this an indication of something that’s trending toward the longterm makeup of the OF. Just asking….really.

    1. Odubel has been struggling lately against lefties, but I think Pete is just loading up on RH bats. There has been no indication that Odubel won’t be the starting CF next year (with Altherr being the starting RF).

    1. Jim posted above:
      ‘Okay, here’s a scoop. I asked Kevin Gowdy if he was going to pitch again this summer. After he skipped his last start, I wondered if the Phillies had decided to shut him down after 8.0 GCL innings and his high school work load. Or maybe, they just wanted to skip a start so he could pitch deeper into the summer. Anyway, he said, “Yes.” and further volunteered that he had a slight strain of his thigh. He said it’s not serious. The missed start was a precaution, and he expects to pitch again, soon. Come to think of it, I noticed a wrap on his thigh during Tuesday’s game.’

        1. guy84…..don’t humor rocco.
          rocco…..what happened the other night at the game when Bob Davidson ejected you? A little too much vino??????

          1. Romus really need to know why is Paredes playing. He is terrible. I really don’t think one person on here, thought asche would ever hit enough to stay. I think the Phillies wont call up Williams until the playoffs are over. just my opinion.

          2. Wait romus did you watch the guy at the soul game? He horse collar, a soul player running down the sidelines. I never saw a fan do that to a player before.,

            1. rocco…Paredes will probably be on another team next season. I do not think MK will bring him back. So 3/4 weeks before the call ups and maybe Williams.

  12. Jason Martinez:
    ‘With Cody Asche not doing enough to secure a spot in 2017 Phillies’ outfield and Nick Williams having an underwhelming season in Triple-A, Dylan Cozens has worked his way into the mix with a monster season for Double-A Reading’
    ….Nick Williams underwhelming season in Triple -A….huh???????
    I think Jason does his best work with NHL hockey..

    1. Nick Williams has been underwhelming when you consider that Franco at age 22 ripped AAA for a .900+ OPS before he got promoted.

      1. Do you consider this underwhelming for a rookie AAA level player?
        .293 /.339 /.822…….wRC+ 119 ….ISO-.178
        K rate of 23% and BB rate of 4% and splits vs lefties all need improvement, buit overall, IMO, he has produced at above average for a rookie.
        Not sure , what does Franco have to do with Williams’ AAA season?

        1. It’s a better than solid AAA debut. The problem with the guys on the radio is that they are looking at the old fashioned stat line (average/home runs/rbis) and then drawing conclusions out of context. They are not looking at his age, they are not looking at his doubles, they are not looking at his skill set or his projections. They are looking at some of his numbers and translating them to the Phillies. So, Jason Martinez is thinking “.280 and 11 home runs – ho hum, this guy isn’t any good.” That’s sports radio my friends.

        2. I want all Phillies prospects to succeed, I really do. But there was an open spot for Williams at a corner OF, and he couldn’t do enough to get promoted early. I don’t know where you got your numbers, but before today’s game, MILB has his OPS at .773. It’s decent, but not if he wants to force himself onto the Phillies roster, like Franco did with his .900 OPS. When you have a .900 OPS, you leave little doubt that there’s more to learn at AAA. Even if Nick Williams gets a September callup, you’re still left with the idea that maybe he needs more seasoning at AAA. And that’s a little underwhelming for a guy with his talent.

    1. Transactions still lagging. I read that Quinn is headed for Reading today. No transaction. Osmel Aguila is on Lehigh’s roster (making room for Quinn in Reading, but putting Lehigh at 26). No transactions.

  13. Someone up top made a comment about a Altherr/Cozens platoon . . That could be a monster platoon. Would also sold some of the OF issues that we might have Williams/Herrera/Altherr/Cozens (there Quinn as well I guess).

    Jim – Yeah it was from the stories about him during the time he was getting drafted. Again not personal history w him obviously. Anyways he sounded like he’s matured (if those stories were accurate)

    I know this is off topic but one of the best pitched season in MLB history is quietly happening this season. He won’t get talked about as much bc he’s a RP but Zach Britton has been ABSOLUTELY UNHITTABLE this year. In 45.2 IP he has an ERA of 0.59, is striking out more than 10 per 9 while only giving up 4.3 hits per 9. A nice .76 WHIP as well. Here’s the number that is nuts to me . . His ERA+ is 749!!! To give you an idea of how CRAZY high that is, When Eric Gagne was saving just about every game the Dodgers played in, his ERA+ was 337. You know only a difference of 412 . . . The difference is even more than the ERA+ of Gagnes for that year lol

  14. Forgot this in the above . . .

    Am I seeing correctly? Cesar Hernandez is hitting above .290 with an OBP that is better than league average (his OBP is .351 going into today). If he can work on the mental side of the game that’s not a bad player. I know he doesn’t have any power but still and if he could use his above average speed more too.

    Jerad Eickhoff leads the Phillies in WAR right now. Interesting.

    Video I found of Tirado
    Forgot this in the above . . .

    Am I seeing correctly? Cesar Hernandez is hitting above .290 with an OBP that is better than league average (his OBP is .351 going into today). If he can work on the mental side of the game that’s not a bad player. I know he doesn’t have any power but still and if he could use his above average speed more too.

    Jerad Eickhoff leads the Phillies in WAR right now. Interesting.

    Video I found of Tirado (from Jay Floyd)

      1. Can the Phillies hire someone like Davey Lopes/Ricky Henderson to teach Cesar to steal bases and how to slide properly?

  15. I think Mack wanted too lose this game. He puts a triple AAA pitcher in for 2 ings . SEV should be In LVH seems like every time he’s in its a run scored.

  16. Somebody above mentioned Pete Rose, who started as a 2bman. Any chance he’ll donate his brain to a young second baseman currently playing on a major league team who desperately needs a transplant, especially when he’s on base?

    And does anyone know if Velasquez’ innings OR total season pitch count will be limited? He has to be averaging 90 per 5ip.

    1. It’s time. He probably still has a bunch of stuff to learn, but their mantra has been that guys have to earn their promotions. Regardless of what you think about Jake Thompson’s future, he’s EARNED this promotion.

      1. I mean “not” this sat. Eikchoff is scheduled to start the Saturday’s match against SD.

        1. i stand corrected. i thought the Phils needs a starter on Monday and I saw the schedule in phillies.com and espn that thompson is schedule to start against LAD and COL.

  17. For everyone who wanted Hellickson traded, I guess MK made he right move. With Nola now out, two guys from LH would have been needed. This would have caused a ripple through the system with pitchers moving up who might not be ready. Add to it that Pinto is on the DL.

    1. David Buchanan, Ben Lively and Adam Morgan were still available to fill in for a few starts over a few weeks. And any free agent veterans still floating in and out of AAA.

  18. The Yankees called up Rony Garcia from their DSL to their GCL team.
    I hope the Phillies do the same with Rafael Marchan.

  19. If the Phillies are in need of another starter, Jerome is off the board. He pitched for the Cardinals recently. Just a couple of years ago RA signed him for 2 mill after a six week stint when he pitched pretty well. We all know how that turned out.

    1. All Klentak needs is 6/7 weeks for a starter or two,
      This team is not in any pennant/playoff race.
      They act like they are neck and neck in a playoff run.
      When they play bats like Paredes, Asche, and Galvis every day, the weak links are exposed.
      Buchanan and Morgan have done well at LHV.
      Consider them or Ben Lively.
      Give Lively his shot…he turns 25 next season.
      One of those three could come in for a start or two.
      Thompson is now up and starts Saturday so that prospect square is checked.

  20. Regarding LHV’s post season run, Jake Thompson’s call up will significantly impact their chances of going deep into the playoffs. I say this selfishly, wanting of course to see Williams, Crawford and Knapp up sooner as well. Besides these guys, that lineup is lacking the umph of Reading’s. But then there’s also the unpredictable injury factor.

  21. Playing homerun derby in reading tonight … Hoskins and Pullin have two each … Cozens and Walding are slacking with only one each

  22. This Reading team is unbelievably exciting !!! Dylan Cozens smokes a grand slam in the 8th to put the Fightin’s up 12-8. That’s two HR’s each for Cozens, Hoskins, and Pullin. Also, Mitchell Walding hits a HR in his first AA game. Wild times.

  23. Well worth noting that it was Ruben Amaro who made the decision to select Cozens. He had Cozens come to Philadelphia to take batting practice at CBP and fell in love with him and said so.

    The pick was roundly criticized, especially by guys like Law, but the pick may turn out to be pure genius. And this baloney about him not hitting lefties, neither did Callison or Gonzalez when they were brought up. Mauch played them against righties, sat them against tough lefties like Spahn and Koufax until they became solid major leaguers, confident in their ability to hit all pitching.

    And the way he bashes righties, you know what? I’ll gladly take it, the Phils have more than enough righty power hitters and will see more than their share of right handed pitching.

  24. BP Scouting the GCL …..Steve Givarz
    1. Kyle Young….Extra-large frame and body, listed at 6’10” 205. Extremely long levers, pitches from a ½ windup, soft stab arm action, ¾ slot, good extension on pitches. Fastball 89-90, looks to be getting on side of ball and would lose the ball arm-side. Curveball 75, soft break, lacks sharpness, more of a show-me offering. Intriguing projectable arm, name to keep an eye on down the road.
    2. Nick Fanti…..Lean, slender body, has some physical projection remaining. Pitches from a ½ windup, easy delivery, has some deception because of ease in delivery, twisting stab arm action, 3/4 slot. Fastball 87-89 T90, lacks life, lowered to 86-87 as game progressed. Curveball 78-79, not a sharp pitch, 2/8 shape, rolls into zone, fine for this level but needs better action. Changeup 83-84, deceptive arm speed, lacks life. Lower round sign, needs to add weight to overall frame, lower level SP depth.
    3. Josh Stephen…Some physical projection remaining. Hits from an even stance, above-average bat speed, short swing to the ball, line-drive stroke, lacks loft, lacks strength right now but should improve. 55 runner. Below-average arm, might have to move to LF but should stay in CF for time being. Intriguing player, really like the swing and has a good idea of hitting, long-term outlook is a potential 4th OF
    4.Tyler Frohwirth……Pitches from the stretch only, slinger arm action, below-average arm speed, submarine slot. Fastball 75-76, some late tumble. Slider 67-70, not a sharp pitch, sweeper break, sweeps to the plate. No changeup thrown. Different look guy, lower-level relief depth.
    5. Jhaily Ortiz…..Already large; strong muscular body, still young at 17 and has room for physical growth. Current plus-plus raw power, takes balls out from LF-RCF with considerable loft, could improve given age and future added strength. Long levers, slightly longer swing, hands not quick but is able to cover most areas of the plate, exposed on outer half and decent breaking balls, should improve with more repetitions and improved plate discipline. Defensively he doesn’t take the best routes on hit balls but is a better runner than size would indicate and is able to close on balls. Moderate arm strength, 40 runner. Raw power is the calling card but has a good feel to hit, body needs to be monitored or otherwise a move to 1B is in the future.
    6.Geury Ortiz…..Pitches from a full windup, drop and drive delivery, compact arm action, ¾ slot. Fastball 89-91, some late two-seam action but not a ton of movement. Curveball 74-77, 11/5, some downer action but inconsistent. Changeup 84-86, lacking feel for pitch. Lower-level relief depth.
    7. Luis Gonzalez…..Physical projection remaining given body and relative lack of experience, older for level. Pitches from a full windup, soft arm stab, ¾ slot. Fastball 91-93, lacks movement. Slider 77-79, slurvy pitch, lacked consistent action. One changeup at 84. Good size and arm action, older to baseball, lower-level relief depth.
    8. Luis Carrasco….Lean, slender body, larger than 170, closer to 180-185, some physical projection remaining. Pitches from a full windup, stiff delivery, slightly closed off, needs to improve mobility and flexibility, compact arm action with quick arm, ¾ slot. Fastball 92-94 T96, mild movement, lacked control. Slider 80-81 T83, soft action with mild break, lacked tilt. No changeup seen in outing. Interesting arm, big arm strength guy, more likely a reliever down the road. Potential bullpen arm
    9. Sixto Sanchez….Pitches from a full windup, clean, smooth arm action with above-average arm speed, ¾ slot. Fastball 93-97 T98, good arm strength, some mild run in the bottom of the zone. Curveball 81-84, lacks consistent action and shape, best ones had vertical action and bite. Intriguing pitcher, size will always be held against him and might be a better fit in the bullpen.
    10. Kale Fultz…..Workhorse build, lacks remaining projection. Pitches from a full windup, high arm action that is long in the back, below-average arm speed, ¾ slot. Fastball 85-87 T88, lacks movement. Curveball 70-73, soft pitch with early break, 11/5 shape. Slider 78-79, moderate tilt and action, not sharp. Lower-level relief depth.
    11. Caleb Eldridge…Strong, muscular frame and body, lacks remaining physical projection. Fair raw power, can take it out from RF-CF, more strength than bat speed. Below-average bat speed, lacks feel for the zone, fair amount of present swing-and-miss, lacks pitch recognition. Fair athlete, works fair around the bag. Did not see arm tested in looks. Lower level 1B depth.

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