Box Score Recap – 8/2/2016

Lehigh Valley moved into sole possession of first place behind Ben Lively’s three-hit effort.

Reading’s Nick Pivetta was strong after a first inning home run.

Felix Paulino and Scott Harris didn’t allow an earned run in Williamsport’s loss.

And, the GCL has another gifted pitcher in Mauricio Llovera.  (Plus some video of lanky Kyle Young.)

Lehigh Valley (68-42)  Beat Scranton, 2-1.  Ben Lively held the RailRiders to one unearned run while striking out eight in eight innings.  Michael Mariot earned his first save.  Braock Stassi (.264) and Cedric Hunter (.296) had 2 hits apiece.  Hunter put the IronPigs ahead with their only RBI.  The win put Lehigh Valley in first place, a full game ahead of Scranton.

  • #1 Crawford (.257) went 0-3 with a BB.
  • #3 Williams (.285) went 1-4.
  • #5 Thompson (11-5, 2.29) – DNP.
  • #11 Appel – DL, season-ending surgery to remove a bone spur.
  • #12 Knapp (.269) went 0-4 with 3 K.
  • #24 Lively (6-4, 3.50) – 8.0 IP, 3, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 8 K, 1 HBP.
  • #28 Ramos (0.38) – promoted to Philadelphia.

Reading (72-37)  Beat Bowie, 4-2.  Nick Pivetta rebounded from a 2-run HR in the first inning, and pitched into the eighth allowing 3 additional hits, no walks, and striking out six.  Hoby Milner (1.91) earned his 5th save.  The big name prospects went 0-15 with a walk and 5 K.  Andrew Pullin (.373), Harold Martinez (.264), and KC Serna (.296) had 2 hits each.  Angelo Mora (.254) tied the game with an RBI single in the fifth.  Serna gave the Phils the lead with a 2-run HR (4) in the seventh.

  • #4 Alfaro (.289) went 0-4.
  • #7 Cozens (.276) went 0-4 with 3 K. (again)
  • #8 Quinn (.288) DL, oblique, rehabbing with the GCL Phillies.
  • #13 Hoskins (.279) went 0-3 with a BB.
  • #14 Kingery (.303) went 0-4.
  • #16 Pinto – (4-4, 4.46) – DNP.
  • #18 Pivetta – (10-6, 3.55) – 7.2 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 6 K, 1 HR.
  • #19 Eshelman (2-2, 6.75) – on the 7-day DL.
  • #26 Cordero – (13.50) – DNP.

Clearwater (63-43)  DNP.

  • #20 Garcia (9-3, 2.72)
  • #22 Canelo (.247)
  • #23 Tocci (.276)

Lakewood (50-55)  Postponed, rain.

  • #6 Randolph (.246)
  • #9 Kilome (3-7, 4.31)
  • #27 Pujols (.223)
  • #29 Edgar Garcia –
  • #30 Tirado (3-1, 4.72)

Williamsport (27-17) Lost to Mahoning Valley, 2-1.  Felix Paulino (4.05) pitched six innings and allowed an unearned run on 4 hits and a walk.  He struck out six. His own fielding error figured in the unearned run.  Scott Harris (2-1, 0.56) pitched two innings and allowed an unearned run.  He gave up 2 hits and struck out three.  His wild pitch helped set up the unearned run.  David Martinelli threw a runner out at home.  Luke Maglich (.276) had 2 hits.  The Crosscutters’ run scored from third on a throwing error on a steal of second.

  • #17 Medina (4-1, 1.66) – DNP.
  • #25 Romero – DNP.

GCL Phillies (23-10) Beat the GCL Yankees East, 11-7.  Here’s another young pitcher tp keep an eye on, Mauricio Llovera.  He had a rough first inning where he walked in a run, but settled down to shut down the Yankees through the fifth inning.  He gave up 5 hits and 3 walks (2 hits and 2 walks in the first) but struck out 8 Yankees.  His off speed pitch had nice movement as did his fast ball.  I wandered over to check the radar gun and he touched 96 mph on a pitch.  When I checked his chart after his five inning I was surprised to see that he sat 94-96 with a lot of 96s and touched 97 once (like 10-12 at 96).

Kyle Young followed and although he gave up 6 hits and 3 runs (only 1 earned), only one was hit hard.  Three of the hits he allowed were of the “single to third baseman/second baseman” variety.  He allowed a soft line drive to left, a ground single threw the hole to right, and a ground single up the middle.  The hardest hit was the ground ball to right.  Young’s fastball was 87-89, mostly 88-89 mph.

This was Young’s first batter in the seventh.  It was an infield hit to third.

Fielder’s choice to Third.  Error on the throw to first.  I didn’t think the ball was hit hard enough to get two.

This is labelled incorrectly.  It’s a ground ball to third, error on the third baseman.

One of the unearned runs charged to Young came when the catcher (Gardner) overthrew Young on a throw back to the mound.  The kid is 6’10 and he didn’t have a prayer of catching this throw.  In one of the attached videos, you can see a throw back to Young that almost went over him.  The actual error was about 6 feet higher.

These are three of Young’s pitches in the seventh inning.  I stopped recording when the batter stepped out after the third pitch.  That pitch is the one where Garner almost overthrows Young.

Oh!  The pony tailed umpire is Jennifer Pawol, the first female umpire in the GCL.  This is the second time I’ve seen her behind the plate.  She does a very good job.

Geury Ortiz gave back three runs in the ninth and Jose Nin had to come in with 2 runners on base to record the one-batter save, his third.

Roman Quinn went 3-4 with a double, SB and 2 runs scored.  He stole second on a double steal where Ben Pelletier stole home on the throw.  Quinn was lifted after six innings.

Daniel Brito also had 3 hits as well as 3 RBI.  Mickey Moniak, Danny Zardon, Rodolfo Duran, and Ben Pelletier had 2 hits each.  Zardon also had 3 RBI.

Moniak Doubled into the right center field gap and tripled into left center – the CF dove for the ball and it rolled to the fence.

The Phillies committed 5 errors.

  • #2 Moniak (.326) went 2-5 with a double, triple, and RBI.
  • #10 Gowdy (0-1, 4.50) – DNP.
  • #15 Stobbe (.253) went 0-4 with a BB.
  • #21 Jhailyn Ortiz (.276) DNP.
  • Stephen (.288) went 1-5 with a double and RBI.
  • Miller (0-0, 4.15) – DNP.
  • Andrew Brown (0-0, 2.19) – DNP.
  • Stewart (1-2, 5.91) – DNP.
  • Fanti (4-0, 1.38) – DNP.
  • Sixto Sanchez (3-0, 0.67) – DNP.

DSL Phillies (22-28)  Lost to the DSL Athletics, 1-0 in 12 innings.  Five pitchers struck out 11 batters.  The winning run scored on a bases loaded walk.

  • Jonathan Guzman (.305) went 2-4 with a sacrifice.
  • Keudy Bocio (.227) DNP.
  • Simon Muzziotti (.248) went 1-5.
  • Dixon Gutierrez (.273) went 1-4.

DSL Phillies2 (29-21)  Beat the DSL Rays2, 2-1 in 15 innings.  Four pitchers held the Rays to 6 hits and 2 walksin 15 innings and struck out 15.  The winning run scored on a bases loaded balk.

  • Leonel Aponte (2-4, 3.09) – DNP.
  • Carlos Oropeza (.198) DNP.
  • Rafael Marchan (.333) went 1-6 with an RBI (20).

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

Extra Innings:

  • 8/2 – Phillies designated RHP Andrew Bailey for assignment.
  • 8/2 – Phillies recalled RHP Luis Garcia from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 8/2 – 2B Carlos Alonso assigned to Lehigh Valley from Reading.
  • 8/2 – LHP Joely Rodriguez assigned to Lehigh Valley from Reading.
  • 8/2 – Victor Arano assigned to Reading from Clearwater.
  • 8/2 – Clearwater activated LHP Brandon Leibrandt from the 7-day disabled list.
  • 8/2 – Clearwater placed RHP Yacksel Rios on the 7-day disabled list.
  • 8/2 – RHP Luke Leftwich assigned to Clearwater from Lakewood.
  • 8/2 – Anderson Nunez assigned to DSL Phillies2 from DSL Phillies.
  • Organization Rosters are up to date.

75 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 8/2/2016

  1. I’ve paid no attention to Pivetta this year. I like the guy. I loved the trade that brought him here [Papelbon]. But I haven’t given the guy his due. So yesterday’s game was a comeback game after 3, less than stellar, starts. I looked back prior to those clunkers and found a 1.09 ERA is 6 starts. He throws in a lousy start every once in a while but redeems himself with 5 or 6 good ones. A last year to this year comparison shows a lot less BBs and more Ks. Guys hit .252 against him last year spanning two levels. This year their hitting .239. His WHIP went from 1.37 to 1.2. ERA is better. He’s winning games, of course playing on Reading and throwing beach balls to hitters can still yield wins.

  2. Just another Manic Mickey, whoa, whoa. Sorry, I had a Banglin’ in my head. He’s hit in 6 in a row and 13 of his last 14 games. He’s had 3 doubles, 3 triples and no homers. He’s also had 6 SBs to 1 CS in those 14 games. He’s increased his BA from the mid-.270s to .326. OBP has jumped and SLG% too. He’s also been hit by 3 pitches over that gaggle of games. I’d like to see him in Wmsprt by the end of the year but I know the Phils don’t often move top prospects, in their first season, to a higher level. The #1 overall pick deserves that.

    1. The Phillies moved Crawford from GCL to Lakewood in his first season. It’s funny, before I even read your post, I had looked to see what date the Phillies moved Crawford to Lakewood during his firs season…and it was August 19. Crawford played 14 games and got 53 Abs in Lakewood before the end of the season. He then was assigned to Lakewood at the start of the next season, and ended up playing the 2nd half that season in Clearwater.

      Crawford actually had a better slash line in GCL than Moniak currently does, and had substantially better K/BB rates (although Moniak’s slash line and K/BB rates are both very good…Crawford’s were just exceptional).

      Anyway, long story short, I hope Moniak is on the same plan…promotion to Lakewood this month (in perfect world for more than 14 games) and then start in Lakewood next year. Hopefully he never plays a game in Williamsport, like Crawford, Nola, and Randolph

      1. Tommy, I wouldn’t mind seeing him moved to Williamsport now. We keep talking about challenging other prospects (Hoskins for one) and Moniak clearly is handling GCL level pitching. Let him play the remainder of the NYP League season.

  3. Now thats funny….there must have been some laughing and chuckling in the dugout and seats when Gardner overthrew Young on his return throw to the mound.

  4. I remember reading about the VZ guys signed this year but I don’t remember any DR guys. Does anyone know if we signed guys other than these: Gonzalez, Brayan, Mujica, Luigi, Torres, Nicolas, Tortolero, Jose, Morales, Franco and Aparcio, Juan. Sorry for the last names first. Easier to cut an paste from a spreadsheet I have. I’m looking for the guys who got decent bonuses not the $50K guys.

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  5. Kyle Young and Randy Johnson…mechanics almost align..naturally physical profile will be there..

      1. That should be easy for him to get to, ha!.
        In all seriousness, I would be happy if he got his velo up 5/6mph to 93/94… with his extended release point, along with his height he could be something special.

        1. I’m more focused on guys like Llovera. I had never even heard of him before and now I’m told he sits 94-96, touching higher with good breaking stuff? Damn, they are really doing a good job lately finding arms in Latin America; it’s impressive!

          1. Makes you wonder what tall RHP Francisco Morales , as the newly signed 16-year old will be at some point in the future….my understanding he is already in the mid-90 range.

            1. Good point. He was in my top 20 that I posted a few days ago (#20). Surprised that he isn’t being talked about more . . i get that he hasn’t thrown a pitch in the Phillies org however if he was in this past draft i’d have to think he is def a 1st round pick . . . I’m assuming he’s going to be in Clearwater for Sept

            2. Morales could project, like Kilome, as top of the rotation arm. Read were his velo sits 90-94 and touches 95.
              Another tall RHP I am hoping I hear they sign soon is Edisson Gonzalez…have not heard if he has signed with anyone as of yet…tall RHP who also brings it from low to mid 90s.

            3. @Eric D – I like Morales too although his mechanics somehow worries me. The Phils has the one of the deepest farms in all MLB and the depth is pushing young prospects like Morales, Fanti, Bailey, Ranger, Sixto out of Top 20 or 30 rankings. With another of pro baseball and graduation of the top prospects (i.e. Ramos, JPC, NickWill, Jake, Quinn) we’ll start to see prospects from low minors make the Top 30 consistently.

            4. His mechanics don’t look horrible, they look like a 16 year old kids mechanics. You can also look at is as, if they can refine his mechanics there’s prob added velocity just from that alone.

            5. Eric D, First, thank you for posting the video of Morales. However, 4-5 pitches seems like an extremely SSS to assess a pitcher’s mechanics, either pro or con. Plus, this looks to be even less structured than a team’s bullpen session.

              I’m going to reserve judgement until I get to see him stateside. I would hope to see him in Instructs. In previous years, the Phillies have brought a fairly large contingent from the DSL/VSL. However, those guys have been players on the rosters for those summer league teams. Jhailyn Ortiz was invited last year, but he spent the time after he signed at the Complex even though he didn’t play with the GCL guys. I think Encarnacion and Martelo were at the Complex prior to their first Instructs, but I’m not even 90% sure.

              One more thing. It’s early, but I would not have thought to include Morales in the 2017 top 30 balloting this winter. Should I? Thoughts? Anyone? Bueller?


              oh theres a bunch of video out there on him, I actually meant to post this and not the one I did. I wasn’t basing my opinion of his mechanics off one a video like the first one. Also I have yet to read any scouting reports that say anything negative about his mechanics . . actually the opposite. I would def have him in the top 30 discussion. I mean the Phillies 1st and 2nd picks in the draft this year were going to be slotted in the top 30 before they even played a professional game . . why is it different with Morales? Esp when he is seen as the best international pitching prospect outta Venezuelan, sitting 92-96 with movement and that might not even be his best pitch. I dunno he sits at number 20 for me.

  6. Llovera hitting 96 consistently? Wow. Add him to the prospect watch list. Just when I had cooled a bit on Lively, he pitches a terrific game. Nice to see. Nice to see Arano go up and Liebrant go back to Cwater. Serna just produces, not bad for an independent league player.

    1. Sixto S. and Mauricio Ll…power arms and under 6 foot.
      Going up the ladder they may not stay as starters but, anymore relievers in the majors are hitting mid-to upper 90s consistently and they would fit into that mold.

      1. Yeah if either guy as they move up levels struggle to go long into games or just look like very marginal starters a move to the back end of the bullpen wouldn’t be a bad idea. They certainly have the stuff and it may even tick up some when they only pitch an inning or two. And as we saw at the trade deadline those type of players can fetch a hell of a lot in return.

  7. Looks like he gets some decent down and away (to a RHH) movement on his change up. Young is def someone I’ve been high on since they drafted him . . a ton of potential, I was surprised that he signed. Also Pivetta is someone to watch, he looks like he can be another workhorse who has mid rotation upside or back of the bullpen fall back. Remember the numbers being inflated pitching in Reading . . . well that goes for pitchers as well which makes his numbers even more so impressive.

  8. I was looking at the stats for the Phillies minor leagues. One item stood out as very unusual. It’s an odd stat that nobody tries to lead in. It’s HBP. One guy in the organization gets HBP 10% of his PAs. Holy Crap!!! Must be crowding the plate, aye? The guy is Darick Hall. He’s been hit by 11 pitches in 114 PAs. Tobias and Green have been hit 13 times in 400 PAs. Grenny Cumana has been hit 12 times.

    Wouldn’t you love to see Cumana standing next to Kyle Young? 5’5″ next to 6’10”.

    1. Interesting. I have noted something regarding HBP and the Threshers. Now, let me state that I am not advocating throwing at batters. But, we are reminded of the “unwritten rules” of baseball every time a pitcher throws at a batter in the majors and the batter charges the mound.

      Threshers’ batters have been hit by a pitched ball 65 times this season, second in the FSL. Threshers’ pitchers have hit 34 batters (12th in a 14 team league).

      That seems a large disparity. Williamsport’s is proportionately larger 30:12.

  9. Im torn about promotions…it seems every team is in a playoff push…i kind of want to see Thompson lead LV into postseason as opposed to being a part of a 6 man rotation in Philly. When would LV playoffs end? Would there be time for a spot start at end with Phils?

    1. Sam, playoffs should start either 8/9 September…if LHV makes the playoffs.
      And if they keep winning and if sries goes the full length, then you could be looking at another few weeks. So if Thompson stays at LHV he may not get the opp to pitch at all with the Phillies since they may just shut him down by close to the end of September since he will have been well over his max inning pitched from his past seasons.

      1. @romus – actually this what I’m thinking as one of the reasons why Klentak hold on Hellboy and probably play the QO gamble. With LHV, REA and CLW winning and possibly winning all the way, the FO probably considered keeping the group intact — playing and winning together.

        1. KuKo….could be the reason.
          LHV only has 31/32 games left before their playoffs start and Reading 33 before their playoff starts. So he may want to keep them intact. which is not a bad thing
          As for Helly’s trade deadline situation , IMO, he better hope he doesn’t get injured…shoulder or UCL….if so, then Phillie fans will put that one on the ‘con’ side of his track ledger. OTOH, getting a 45th/50th pick in 2017 would be worth it and justify his position from yesterday.

          1. I’ve heard many people list the potential compensatory draft pick the Phillies may get back for Helickson as #40-50. I think it’s actually going to fall somewhere between 27-33. Last year, those comp picks started at pick 24 and lasted through pick 34. There are only 30 teams. Even if nobody lost a pick for signing a FA with a QO, the comp picks would start at #31. Obviously, a few QO FA’s will be signed. The Phillies will be near the front of the line for the comp picks because they will have one of the worst records in baseball this season. If all goes well (Hellboy refuses the QO), the Phillies could end up with something like picks 7, 29, and 49. They would also have about 10.1 million slot dollars budgeted to them (plus another 500 thousand overage dollars).

            1. Hinkie…yes, the Reds with the first CBA picked at 35.So indeed the Phillies could be getting something in the high 20s or low 30s.

            2. Bet you more like 15 with the first pic they some teams above them really hurt themselves. Right now there 10 th the Brewers are above them The Yanks , Pitt, White Sox , Houston, Rockies . Right now the White Sox are 4 games under 500, KC is 4 games under. There both 7.5 games out of the WC in the Al. The Yanks are at 500 with Load of aging vets and no more great Bp. They also play In the toughest Division. SAN DIEGO can’t put a rotation together. Houston and Seattle going to put up a fight now . Even the Mets at 7.5 games back have to put together Run . In 2 wks most of these teams know we’re there at. You will see some of the high price vets be traded to the contenders. See by the Phillies not making a move they will pick later in the first. You always here next yr draft is so much better then this yr. It really isn’t I remember last yr How Hansen, Puk , and a couple more pitchers were great and it was going to be great pitchers draft. HINKIE when it’s no big deal by this time next yr nobody will remember Hellickson or what happened to the QO.

  10. This might be a little outta the box but how about calling up Knapp. Hear me out . . . What would it be worth for him to spend 2 months with Ruiz day in and day out. The FO can tell Ruiz that Knapp is going to take some of his playing time but wants him to mentor for the remainder of the season. Knapp can also play 1B (I dunno how well but he’s done it before) so they can find ABs for him. And I mean he’s been in AAA all year so what would 1.5 months of reduced ABs really do to his development? I’d think being around Ruiz would outweigh that, no?

    1. If they were going to do that with Knapp…I prefer they do it now.
      It would give Moore and a possible eturn to LHV of Lino from Reading……(Alfaro and Fisher can handle Reading’s catching)….to start to handle the staff in the playoff push in these last 3/4 weeks.

    2. While Ruiz might help him with the nuances of calling games I don’t know that he’s going to help improve his catching skills. It is those skills that need work and should he should be catching everyday that he can.

    3. That is also assuming that Ruiz is willing to devote his added bench time mentoring Knapp. He might be just as inclined to play out the last 50 games in the organization thinking about his next job..

  11. Nola on 15-day DL…Klein skips his start in LHV and will pitch for the Phils (I think)…

    1. What the hell? Talk about bad luck with Jake Thompson. If Nola hit the DL earlier, then Thompson might have got the call.

      1. I would love to see Jake (or even Ben) too for a start or 2. But Klein is being on the 40-man make it convenient for the Phils. Klein should show better than Buch and Morgan.

        1. Thompson is three innings short of his max of 133 innings pitched…last year.
          So have to see what the Phillies will do with him going forward….maybe 30/40 more innings than that’s it for this season..

          1. I’m hoping to see Jake even in the bullpen so he can work with his SL as a true wipe out pitch.

      1. Correction no it doesn’t, from the game logs…..only counted thru Sept 5th’s game vs Richmond.

        1. Thompson pitched two playoff games for 16 innings.
          So total innings for 2015 were 149.
          So he could be shutdown at the 170/175 mark…approx. 40 more innings.
          Right now….I do not think they want him going anywhere near the 180 plus area.

  12. I’m pretty sure that he pitched two or maybe even three times in the playoffs and they won all of those games.

    1. He pitched one game in each series….first was a complete game shut-out win vs Binghamton, then there was the game against Bowie for 7 innings

  13. Strain Elbow is bad never sounds good maybe he gets those mechanical issues fixed on the DL. Klein up for now Thompson should take his place. Maybe Klein stays Garcia goes down. Mariot comes for Gomez who is on leave .I hope Klein and Mariot do well.

    1. @Tim – I’ll go the other way. since the phils are not winning and I don’t see Klein and Mariot as valuable pieces – I hope they stink so the FO can start purging the 40-man of expendable players.

      1. Mariot throws 93 to 95 I really don’t see Garcia who’s 30 a value furture piece . David Hernandez isn’t either he’s gone at the end of the yr. Mariot 27 could be so could Klein both will be needed either in Philly or at LVH for there playoff run.

      2. Sorry to break it to you, but there always be non-foundation pieces on the 40 man roster, especially for relievers. Relievers are notorious for having good/bad years throughout their careers. It’s rare to have a reliever like Ryan Madson who was very consistent for us.

  14. If Thompson takes the next scheduled start in the rotation, he’d begin pitching on game 118. That’d mean there would be 9 starts left for that slot. Thompson could pitch 7 of those starts (assuming 6 IP/start) and be in the 170-175 range. With expanded September rosters and the number of 6th/7th starters and near-ready prospects in the high minors, it shouldn’t be a problem filling out that spot in the rotation through the end of the year.

    1. Sounds about right…if the Phillies do let him get to the 175 mark.
      There are other pitchers they could also use, even if Nola does not make it back until end of August or early September.
      Ben Lively is also a option for the 6-man rotation.
      But there will be one less bullpen arm I assume …at least until the September roster expansion.

      1. This is the first I’ve heard of him going on the DL (Meaning i’m just learning about it from here) but if it’s an elbow strain, at this point in the season with games meaning nothing, why not just shut him down for the rest of the season? No need to rush him back or anything like that.

        1. EricD….Mack just said that this afternoon……by the time he gets healthy and rehab it will be close to mid-Sept…so just let him stay off pitching. But Nola wants to come back in September before the close of the season to test out his arm.

        2. And there was an MRI done this morning….no tear…but ‘mild strain’…now that is a plus.

          1. You gotta think that the Phillies don’t care that he wants to test it out . . he can do that in the off season in bullpens or in clearwater after the season. Hopefully they shut him down.

    1. has their new system rankings out . . . The top 10 is as follows in

      Pre Season
      1. Dodgers
      2. Braves
      3. Rangers
      4. Rockies
      5. Twins
      6. Red Sox
      7. Phillies
      8. Pirates
      9. Brewers
      10. Astros

      Mid Season (New)
      1. Brewers
      2. Yankees
      3. Astros
      4. Pirates
      5. Dodgers
      6. Nationals
      7. Red Sox
      8. Phillies
      9. Braves
      10. Rockies

      Here is the blurb about the Phillies
      8. Philadelphia Phillies
      Preseason Top 10 rank: No. 7
      Prospects on Top 100: 5
      Shortstop J.P. Crawford (No. 3), a potential offensive and defensive star, headlines a deep Phillies crop that was bolstered by the game’s best 2016 Draft. Outfielder Mickey Moniak (No. 32) was the first overall pick and second-round right-hander Kevin Gowdy also has a lofty ceiling. While Philadelphia didn’t pull off a Cole Hamels-esque blockbuster this summer, the key prospects from that deal — outfielder Nick Williams (No. 60), catcher Jorge Alfaro (No. 70), righty Jake Thompson (No. 71) — are percolating through the system.

          1. Future is looking bright. I wonder if the phils are going to keep these guys together to win a championship together? Then again Lehigh has a chance too

    1. Not this time Tim as the Phillies beat the Giants. One question for the group: if a team loses a call challenge how are they entitled to two more? No matter we won anyway.

  15. I don’t think so great win against a very good team .funny Indians are betting smoked by the Twins , Rockies are beating The Dodgers rotation isn’t very good right now . The Nats are running away with the division. Tampa Bay are creaming the Royals .

  16. Eric D. – I’m not sure that I understand the hype on Morales. He is a 16 year old kid who has never pitched in the Phillies organization. He has been ranked by numerous respectable organizations in the teens of international prospects available for this year. If the Phillies organization was completely barren I’m not sure Morales would be top 20. His ceiling is incredibly high but his floor is also incredibly low.

    1. I would expect a 16 year old to have a low floor. It’s the high ceiling that is the reason for the interest but I do agree that it’s too early to be putting this guy into top-30 prospect discussions with the depth of their system right now.

      1. Then why would people (prior to the draft) say that the Phillies first 2 picks will slot somewhere in their top 20. A lot of people had Moniak in the Phillies top 10 right after the draft, before he played a professional game. Morales is a year younger obviously but besides that why can’t he be ranked off of tools? That’s a huge part of ranking a prospect. If he was in the draft he would have been a first round pick. Also why such a low floor? to me its a high leverage relief pitcher if he can ALREADY sit in 92-96 with movement while that might not even be his best pitch. Again he SHOULD be a top 30 guy. For example JoJo Romero is ranked 25 by His stuff isn’t as good as Morales, he isn’t as big as morales, doesn’t have the projection like Morales . . . Don’t see how he would be ahead of him. Just my opinion.

        1. Eric D-All the players from the draft are at least two years older than Morales. So they are further along in their development. Ask almost any scout and I can almost guarantee they will say the players signed on July 2nd are much riskier than the rule 4 draft picks (granted their are exceptions but they are few and far between).
          Morales is ranked by BA as the 12th ranked international prospect and was signed for 900,000 dollars obviously he isn’t as highly thought of by people who do this stuff for a living.
          I’m not actively routing against him I want him to succeed, but with players like him it’s best to temper expectations considering he is so far away.

          1. Chad…….look at it by position…. RHP international pitchers…he is number one for 16-year olds…Vlad Guiterrez is 3 years older and from Cuba, Morejon , a lefty and also from cuba.. and Morales was also the best pitcher out of the Ven.

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