Box Score Recap – 6/11/2016

Lehigh Valley (34-28) Beat Durham, 16-1.  Ben Lively (3-0, 2.08) with another quality performance as makes his fourth AAA start.  Lively stymied the Bulls allowing just one hit in 7.0 innings.  The IronPigs exploded for 16 runs on 15 hits.  They went 10-17 with men in scoring position.  Brock Stassi (3) and Cedric Hunter (4) had multi hit games and 3 RBI apiece.  Stassi (3) and Darin Ruf (7) hit home runs.  Ruf’s was a grand slam.  Hunter also picked up his 4th stolen base.

  • #1 Crawford (.160) went 1-3 with a SF, BB, and 2 RBI (4).
  • #2 Thompson (5-5, 3.42) – DNP.
  • #3 Williams (.288) went 1-4 with a HBP and RBI (31).
  • #4 Appel – DL, shoulder strain.
  • #9 Knapp (.267) went 1-5.
  • #13 Eflin (5-2, 2.90) – DNP.
  • #17 Cordero – DL.
  • #23 Sweeney (.237) went 2-5.
  • #26 Asher – DL, shin fracture.
  • #28 Ramos (0.48) – DNP.
  • #30 Lively (3-0, 2.09) – 7.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 5 K102 pitches/65 strikes.

Reading (44-19) Beat Altoona, 12-8.  Mark Leiter (3.81) went 5.1 innings and left after allowing his third home run with a 7-5 lead.  Jeremy Bleich (3.34) relieved and in 0.2 innings blew the save, gave away the lead, and was credited with the win when the Phils scored five runs to take a 12-8 lead.  Hoby Milner (0.36) scattered 3 singles and struck out two in 2.0 innings.  Miguel Nunez (2.08) struck out the side in the ninth after a lead off walk.

The Phils pounded out 16 hits and scored 12 runs.  Jorge Alfaro, Dylan Cozens, Rhys Hoskins, and Angelo Mora (.277) each had 3-hit games.  Jesse Valentin (.273) chipped in two.  The “Bash Brothers” (Cozens and Hoskins) combined for 3 home runs.  Angelo Mora hit his fourth.  In addition to his two home runs, Cozens drove in six runs.  Hoskins drove in three.

  • #6 Alfaro (.319) went 3-5 with 2 doubles, and 3 runs scored.
  • #7 Quinn DNP.  Tightness in his hamstring.
  • #10 Pinto – (4.25) DNP.
  • #18 Pivetta – (6-4, 4.25) DNP.
  • #19 Hoskins (.283) went 3-3 with a BB, HBP, HR (16), 3 RBI (46).
  • #22 Cozens (.294) went 3-4 with a BB, 2 HR (19), and 6 RBI (53).
  • #28 Brown (.241) went 0-2 with 2 HBP.

Clearwater (34-26) Split two 7-inning games against Charlotte, winning 7-1 and losing 5-2.

Game One:  7-1 win.  Tom Eshelman (4-2, 3.34) allowed one run on five hits in 6.0 innings. He struck out eight and walked none.  Matt Hockenberry tossed a perfect seventh. Clearwater scored five runs in the first inning to stake Eshelman to all the runs he would need.  Carlos Tocci led off and had two of the Threshers’ seven hits.  Cord Sandberg (.247) went 1-3 with 2 RBI (17).  Tocci, Malquin Canelo (.221), and Mitch Walding (.275) had sacrifice flies.  Kyle Martin (.241) and Chace Numata (.256) each drew two walks.

  • #11 Kingery (.267) went 0-4.
  • #12 Canelo (.223) went 0-2 with a BB and RBI (21).
  • #14 Tocci (.243) went 2-3 with a double and RBI (21).
  • #15 Eshelman (4-2, 3.54) – 6.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 8 K, 1 HR.

Game Two:  Lost 5-2.  John Richy () just didn’t have it Saturday.  He opened the game by hitting a batter then allowing two bases-loading singles.  He was fortunate that he only allowed one run on a sacrifice fly.  Catcher Gabriel Lino helped by picking a runner off second.  Richy couldn’t avoid trouble in the second inning.  He was lifted after allowing 3 runs and left with two runners on base.  Will Morris came in to strand both runners.

Morris pitched into the fifth and left with a runner on third and one out.  Matt Imhof relieved and while recording just one out, he allowed the runner to score on an errant pickoff attempt and walked the bases loaded.  Joey DeNato came in to strand the three runners.  He finished the game and struck out two in 1.1 innings.

Andrew Pullin (.257), Mitch Walding (.280), and Samuel Hiciano (.152) each had two hits, combining for six of the Threshers’ seven hits.  Hiciano picked up his third RBI.  Walding hit a solo home run, his 8th, and drove in his 31st run.

  • #11 Kingery (.262) went 0-4.
  • #12 Canelo (.222) went 1-3 with a double.
  • #14 Tocci (.239) went 0-4.
  • #15 Eshelman (3.54) – DNP.
  • #20 Tirado – assigned to XST.
  • #21 Garcia DNP.

Lakewood (24-37) Lost to Delmarva, 5-4.  Jose Taveras (2-5, 4.07) pitched 5.0 innings and gave up five runs on eight hits.  He struck out five.  Damek Tomscha (.264) and Brendon Hayden (.259) each had two hits.  Jiandido Tromp hit his 8th home run.  Tromp (25), Josh Tobias (35), Deivi Grullon, and Hayden (7) each drove in a run.  Grenny Cimana commited his 6th error.  The BlueClaws went 1-10 with runners in scoring position.

  • #8 Kilome – DNP.
  • #24 Pujols (.240) went 1-4.
  • #29 Grullon (.221) went 1-4 with with a double and RBI (11).

DSL1  (2-5) Beat DSL Athletics, 5-3.  The Phillies were successful on 8 of 9 steal attempts.  Luis Liriano had 3 in 3 attempts.

  • Dixon Gutierrez (.458) went 1-4.
  • Keudy Bocio (.125) went 0-2 with a BB and HBP.
  • Jonathan Guzman (.267) went 2-4 with a double.
  • Ismael Rosado (.067) DNP.
  • Jean Carlos Valdez – 5.2 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 2 K, 3 WP, 1 Balk.
  • Jesus De Los Santos – DNP.

DSL2  (2-5)  Beat the DSL Rangers2, 7-5.  Ronaldo Marrero went 2-4 with a double and 3 RBI.  He also stole home.

  • Luis Ramirez – 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 1st Save.
  • Leonel Aponte (0-1, 2.08) – DNP.
  • Jose Jimenez – DNP.
  • Carlos Oropeza (.273) went 1-3 with a BB.
  • Rafael Marchan (.143) DNP.

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

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64 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 6/11/2016

  1. I have absolutely no idea what to make of Dylan Cozens season. Players in AA who strike out as much as he does in the last 10 years almost universally fail, but literally no one has demonstrated as much power as he does (as measured by ISO). It seems like a lazy comp but he is basically Ryan Howard. if Howard had been 22 when he put up Cozens numbers in AA. Of course the fact that Howard is almost the only guy who did what Cozens is doing means the correlation is that strong, I’m at a loss.

  2. another impressive power display in Reading. Brown took a really hard foul off his knee, he was rolling around in pain but opted to finish the AB. Wouldn’t be surprised if he gets a day or two off. Overlooked in all this power from Reading has been Nunez who has been done a lot better then I expected as I last saw him when he was in Lakewood. Going to be interesting to see how he finishes up the year.

    That LV game was a crazy one. Wasn’t sure why Williams was bunting after Crawford, who I could at least see trying something different since he’s struggling for hits. I think it was Stassi that had words after they threw at Crawford, the pitcher pointed at his head saying next time. Next AB for Stassi he puts one over the fence, then the next AB he just missed another as it hit off the wall.

    1. Actually Stassi was hit because of Crawford and Williams trying to bunt for hits in an 8-0 game. Featherston was shown telling both of them in the dugout that they were probably responsible for Stassi getting hit. Then after they threw at Crawford the manager was shown talking to them also on the field so that Durham could see that the their actions were being discussed and dealt with. So playing at AAA is just as helpful at learning to play the game as it is for development.

      1. yes I’m aware why Stassi was hit, I watched the game on Milbtv. He took it in stride, what I was saying is that after they threw those 2 inside pitches at Crawford, someone from the LV bench was yelling at the Durham pitcher. Then Stassi came onto the field yelling at the pitcher when the pitcher then pointed at his head and it looked like he said next time.

        I was impressed with how Stassi handled the whole thing. He didn’t complain after getting beaned in the leg, but he stuck up for Crawford even though it was his fault (and Williams) that he got hit. Then his next AB he puts one over the fence and takes his time rounding the bases.

  3. Watching some of lhv game. The guy who was impressive to me was stassi. I really never looked at him before. He has a really nice compact swing. I know he is a little older. But beside that. I Really never thought he could swing a bat like that. Crawford to me has the eye. the swing is compact, he really will work a count. but with those triple a umps its hard they as I have said before are very inconsistent. I just think its only a matter of time before he start hitting. Williams going to left for his base hit I loved. guys who used the whole field are my favorite. Cause it you try to pull that outside pitch its a weak grounder . going with the pitch is the best way. lively to me isn’t a big league quality starter. I Will say it again and again. right handers with low velo. will have a tough time being quality starters. that 89 91 isn’t going to bold well in major. Its really simple if you throw that low velo to major league hitters they will kill you. You need to be in that 93 to 95 range with control.

    1. The Lehigh Valley gun is very slow – 1-2 MPH at least. Lively often sits 91-93, touching 94 and even 95, he also has a lot of movement up in the zone. Your points are good but I think he has enough velocity and movement to be effective.

    2. What was the official velo for Lively….every time I looked up he seemed to be in the hi-80s/90 and maybe touching 91/92 on occasion?
      Schultz on the other hand for the Bulls was hitting 94.
      But Lively was getting the Bulls out so he must have been doing something right.

      1. Romus not one kid on that team had a batting average over 250 last night. Highest average was 248. think that means something? You guys believe stats so I will show stats.

    3. You guys act like velo is everything. He might not sit 93-95 but I’ve personally seen him dial up 95 with runners in scoring position needing a K. The kid has some juice in there, he’s just a smarter pitcher now and knows the key it to offer up different speeds and movement with all of his pitches. You can’t argue with what he’s done this year. Maybe he’s a bull pen piece, maybe a backend starter, maybe he’s more. But he is DEFINITELY a major leaguer in some capacity.

      1. For RHPs, velo is important.
        A majority of all top of the rotation RHPs in the majors have velo seated in the 92 and above plus range for their 4S and their 2S is at least 90…or else you are looking at Kyle Kendrick pitchers…which is not bad for the end of a rotation guy.
        Now Lively may not have been ‘airing it out’ last night. I did see his 2S grip on a number of occasions and after their big lead there was no need to let it go on the 4S.
        Not saying he will not be a MLB pitcher….it appears that he will soon be pitching in the majors. Where in the rotation remains a mystery however.
        And nowadays…when it comes to relievers coming into a game for an inning or two….the young RHPs dial it up to mid-90s these days.

        1. Yes, I just want to refute the idea that velo is everything, because it’s not. Control and movement play huge as well, and the ability to dial it up when needed. I argue that you don’t need to sit 93-95 as long as you can get up there when you need it. It will save his arm, and teach him how to really “pitch”, much like Nola. He has array of pitches already and he is clearly able to keep hitters off balance with his ever changing speed. That’s a recipe for weak contact, and his ability to dial it up is a recipe for missing bats. I think he’s a future 3.

          1. Why did I know you would mention Nola!
            But agree he knows how to pitch and has exceptional comm and cont and location.
            But it still is early in his career, but right now a team with hitters like the Nats have his number this year
            However when drafted out of LSU…Nola’s readings in college were 92-93T94….he has not regressed all that much …according to Brooks it is now 91-92 -4S.
            He is right now, probably the closest looking young pitcher to a Greg Maddux in the majors…how that translates to his FV remains to be seen.

            1. It’s funny how a team can have a guy’s number like that. Reminiscent of Cole vs the mets

          2. Okay lsigal you keep thinking that. When big league hitters know you cant get it by them. your in trouble. Look at tim linecum. he lost some of his fastball and his era ballon, same with wacha .For every right hander who cant at least go 93 -94 you have a 5th starter. but you can believe what you want. Without decent velo you cant make mistake. few can get away with low velo that is right handers. Lefthanders are different, they have natural movement on there pitches.. Nola isn’t a top of the rotation starter. But you believe what you want. I will kiss romus ass in macy window if livery if a top pitcher with his velo. Has to go around at least two season. And when you say get it up there are mean can rear back in tough situation and hit 94? then I agree, I am not saying every fastball has to be 94, cause you need to change velo on hitters ,But must be able to show them the velo. so they don’t sit on your stuff. I am not saying its everything you need a good offspeed pitch. command. But mistake at 90 get hit. you can get away with a 95 mph pitch down the middle. velocity is one part of a good pitcher. You will find some who can do it like colon. but they are rare.

            1. Rocco, yes I am saying you have to be able to flash something higher than 89-91, and lively does that regularly. He may sit between 90-92 but he can definitely find more than that and it’s more effective because it’s more of a shocks when he does. Watching him he basically throws a pitch at every velo between 77-95 throughout a game. IMO that is an extremely effective way to get guys out. You can’t sit on anything, especially when you don’t know if it’s a 2 or 4 seamer, which he locates extremely well. Nola, on the other hand has a plus fastball even if it sits 90-91, and the reason is plus movement and plus plus control. His breaking ball is also a plus pitch. And he has control with his other stuff as well. That makes him a 1/2… Prob a high end 2 to be more specific. Sure, you can say it’s a SSS, but his numbers speak for themselves.

        2. Marco Estrada is a number 1 guy and he tops out at 88-89. Yet, batters only hit a buck and change off him, and his whip is aldo macroscopic. Look at Cueto, now that he learned to pitch smart, he works easily at low velo.

          Velo hand HR are the 2 stats that really dont say much about day to day success of a team. That’s why lively, thompson, eshelmen, leftwitch, arauz, anderson are guys to keep and eye on.
          It’s all about pitchability.

          1. You really know nothing about this sport. Ashamed. keep going on guys with low velo. now lets look at all the aces. in baseball how many top out at 90. Guys like you know nothing. Wasted my time to answer you. learn the game Marco Estrada is a number one . omg he is 40 36 lifetime with a almost 4era. really your serious. lmao. He is 32 yrs old had one good season last year .That is your guy. lmao Johnny cuerto last year was 11-13. When he was a 20 gms winner, he had better velo I saw him pitch he threw 95 and better, so this year so far he is pitching well with low velo. years isn’t over. Plus I said there are a few that can get away with 90 velo. but rare. Washington starter all are 95 and above. Mets same thing except for colon but he can hit 94 on occasion. You build your winner with right handers with low velo. see where it gets you . so sad. I just wasted my time answering you time I wont get back.

            1. Can’t you argue your point without being dismissive & condescending to the previous poster? Velocity obviously is important, however it’s not “the end-all to be-all”.

            2. You make so many asinine statements…too numerous to count, yet pounce on someone trying to make a point. It’s quite hilarious. Make sure you make every point by referencing Win/Loss records, it really drives it home for the casual reader.

            3. Tanner Roark top speed 92 fb , Gio Gonzalez 92 fb , Matt Harvey Era 4.66, Wheeler out of the yr Tj . The Mets O is hurt there schedule is about to get ready hard. Really doubt if they make the playoffs this yr.

          2. Pitch Repertoire At-A-Glance

            Johnny Cueto has thrown 24,550 pitches that have been tracked by the PITCHf/x system between 2008 and 2016, including pitches thrown in the MLB Regular Season, the MLB Postseason and Spring Training. In 2016, he has relied primarily on his Fourseam Fastball (93mph), also mixing in a Sinker (92mph), Change (83mph), Slider (85mph) and Cutter (87mph). He also rarely throws a Curve (80mph). does sound like 90 to me. but fan graph lies I guess

        3. The league will adjust it Always does there are plenty of players that are just Fb hitters. KC was the best hitting FB team last yr they played the Mets and there rotation they pounced them. There is a metric now getting started all Hr’s hit his yr almost 40 % of all hr are hit on Fb of 93 mph of more. M Bourn hit 1 last night on a 96 mph Fb .I know it’s not you Romus but you know the will always adjust.

          1. Tim…can understand that. batters dead-red FBs.
            But my preference is for the RHP throwing 93-94+ vs 87-89….just me.

            1. I’m not saying 87 but 90 to 93 is fine . Garcia couldn’t get his slider over so Murphy waited and hit a 99 mph fb for a double . Neris without his spitter wouldn’t be in the majors neither would Murray without his power curve they both throw 94 mph fb.The Phillies own Gomez doesn’t throw harder then 93 . The Cubs Lackey , Kendricks don’t throw harder then 92 yet the Cubs are the best team in baseball. The league will adjust and are now.

    4. @roccom
      While velocity is a big factor in a RHP it is not the only factor. There are guys who have that velocity you speak of and get knocked around because they rely on the “stuff” and don’t have great command or control. There are guys who have “low” velocity around 90-91 who with their movement, command, control, and deception pitch well for years as RH starters( Weaver, Hendricks, Nola). Of course there are exceptions to both cases and yes the lower the velocity the easier it is to hit mistakes. I’m not saying Lively is going to be a front end starter nor will I say he is going to be a backend starter. Give him time in the majors before you close the book on him. I tend to believe that a guy who has a career k/9 over 9 in the minors and so far over 7 in triple A can fit in somewhere in a rotation. By the way if my 4th or 5th starter has an era around 3.5 – 3.7 I’d take that any day.

      1. Philly I never meant it to mean. okay throw 95 and have nothing else. I know you need three pitches to be a good starter. curve or slider. change up and fastball with velo at least. I would not mention a guy like nola. its only two season and he hasn’t really pitch enough. I am really worried about him. He is now around 90.7 on his fastball. He has movement. but he has to be near perfect to win. I Said some guys get away with low velo. but it a small percentage. so if I am looking for pitching I want a right hander with decent velo along with other pitches and command. That’s my point.

      2. Mariano Rivera lived on a 89-93 announced cutter his last 6-7 season.
        The same HR got over rated in the 90s and 00s, velo has also been. Velo and HR overrate is the side effect of the steroid era. Now that it is all said and done, pitchability and constant hard contact is getting more appreciated than just Velo and HR. Did anyone heard Jhonny Almaraz say somting like pitching can’t be taught? Pitchers are born. Long lasting hard throwing starters come once in a while (The Rocket, Nolan Ryan) The rest are just 3-4 year wonders who mostly end up with elbow or shoulder issues. I love Nola the same way I loved Maddux. Pitcher with a brain!!!
        In our farm right now there are 6-7 with that potential profile: Thompson, Elfin, lively, eshelman, leftwitch, arauz, anderson, etc, etc.

  4. Nothing against Grullon, but please someone check on how hard pitchers are pounded when he catches versus the other catchers.

  5. Regardless of age and projection, Stassi has enough game, both offensively and defensively, to merit a call up once this Howard debacle has passed. It would also clear a roster spot for Hoskins at Lehigh.

    Jayson Stark said the other day that his sense is that the Phillies aren’t certain that their future 1b-man is currently in the organization. Joseph will get his shot and so far I like what I’m seeing. In any case, Howard is occupying a roster spot that is keeping the organization from the process of finding out about the next in line.

    1. It wouldn’t surprise me if the Phillies started giving Cozens a few reps at first base this fall..

      1. What does Joseph have to do to be taken seriously? Instead of talking about other possibilities for first base maybe we should be thinking about his chances for rookie of the year.

        1. It’s crazy, TJ is ripping and he hasn’t been a black hole on defense. What more could he do? He’s only turning 25 in July and he’s easily on track for 3 WAR.

            1. romus I think sometimes baseball is so weird. Who would have thought joseph would be a piece of the future of these team. back in winter. Would you have thought some of the guys I buried like Bradley would be this good. I never thought he could turn it around. Castellano too. thought he was a 250 hitter with 15 homeruns. he is now a stud. strange game.

            2. I think too much is made of future projection value. We’re talking about TJ, who’s barely 25, and he’s getting it done at the major league level for now. And we’re talking about possibly replacing him in the future by Hoskins or even Knapp? Do you know how hard it is to find young talent that can stick in the bigs? Hoskins is a prospect, he’s done nothing in the bigs, and it’s likely he’ll fail. The majority of prospects fail. Domonic Brown failed. JP Crawford could fail.

              We had this conversation about replacing Odubel Herrera with Roman Quinn even after Odubel posted a 3.8 WAR. It was a crazy conversation then, and thankfully, that talk has died down.

            3. Guru…..remembering correctly, the talk on OH was what his return value would be. That was the gist of that.
              A front-line prospect pitcher.
              If Cashman offered Luis Severino straight up for OH would you do it?
              Or any of Snell, Reyes, or jay?
              That was the discussion….not moving him just to install Roman Quinn….that is silly.

    2. Well they drafted three BIG 1B , very interested to see WOJO kid play, 33 HR Aand named division 2 POYawards

    3. I agree with Stark. TJ has earned the shot, but if he fails the Phils have $$$ to spend and I see that spend coming on a corner infielder (moving Franco to 1B if they get a 3B) and a top two rotation guy. But I suspect they will wait until after the 2017 season with that blockbuster FA class.

  6. Up 8-0, Crawford and N. Williams decide to start the inning with bunts. Both thrown put. Brundage has a very stern talk with them in the dugout. Next inning Stassi gets drilled in the leg. Featherston takes the time to use as a teachable moment. Williams and Crawford did the listening. Not sure they liked it but it’s part of learning the game.

    Durham’s Markel (P) didn’t like it and was warned as were both teams. Crawford faces Markel in the 6th and sees two pitches thrown at him. Markel is tossed. During the delay, Brundage brings both Williams and Crawford out to the 3rd base coaches box to publicly instruct them.

    After the game, Comcast reporting that Crawford apologized.

  7. Reading’s 3/4/5 had 9 hits and 9 Rbis. That’s impressive. It will be very interesting to see what the Phils will do because I expect some promotions by July. Ruf is as hot as anyone. I didn’t expect it but I now think there’s a chance he goes back to philly to play LF. We have quite a few prospects playing well. Any word on Randolph and/or Quinn’s returns?

    1. Last I heard, Randolph was in Clearwater working out. He was taking swings so his return could be soon.

      Cozens and Hoskins are destroying AA right now. It would not hurt to let them play more in AA but both IMO deserve a promotion, problem is who do you move for them to play at AAA everyday.

      1. Cozens is rather easy…..Cedric Hunter IMO is not in the Phillies long range plans. He probably sees the hand writing on the wall. Cozens will go into RF.
        Hoskins may stay at Reading for the duration of this season the way I see it.

        1. Watch video on that kid cozens last night on his second homerun. OMG what power. I wish he would move to triple a. I Don’t know if its the hitters park or this kid is that good.

          1. It’s probably a combination of both. That said, he has excellent power and can drive a ball to the opposite field just about as well as anyone.

        2. It’s great seeing Cozens mash like he is right now, but I’m not sure if they will move him up yet. He’s still striking out so much they may wait a little longer before a promotion.

  8. The Reading lineup has Alfaro in front of Hoskins and Cozens with Jake Fox behind them who has 11 HR on the year so makes it hard for a guy to pitch around any of them. If Cozens moves up do you think it will dramatically change the dynamic of how the guys left behind get pitched to? I don’t know if it would at all but I would like those with knowledge to pass it on to me.

  9. New proud dad LHP Elniery Garcia with a great game today…game score 68 excellent.
    He may be the best starting lefty in the system.

    1. You have to figure that Edubray Ramos has to be close. Bailey, Murray, Araujo, take your pick which one will be the first to go.

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