PhuturePhillies Reader Top 30 (50) Poll for #39

Arquimedes Gamboa takes the 38th prospect slot in our poll.  He received 30 of 154 votes (19%).  Chris Oliver finished a close second with 24 votes.

The current poll’s selections so far are listed below. 

  1. J.P. Crawford
  2. Aaron Nola
  3. Maikel Franco
  4. Roman Quinn
  5. Zach Eflin
  6. Ben Lively
  7. Jesse Biddle
  8. Kelly Dugan
  9. Tom Windle
  10. Yoel Mecias
  11. Deivi Grullon
  12. Matt Imhof
  13. Dylan Cozens
  14. Carlos Tocci
  15. Odubel Herrera
  16. Aaron Altherr
  17. Aaron Brown
  18. Franklyn Kilome
  19. Victor Arano
  20. Andrew Knapp
  21. Zach Green
  22. Severino Gonzalez
  23. Cord Sandberg
  24. Jesmuel Valentin
  25. Ricardo Pinto
  26. Luis Encarnacion
  27. Cameron Perkins
  28. Jose Pujols
  29. Andrew Pullin
  30. Tommy Joseph
  31. Nefi Ogando
  32. Jiandido Tromp
  33. Joely Rodriguez
  34. Rhys Hoskins
  35. Brandon Leibrandt
  36. Willians Astudillo
  37. Elniery Garcia
  38. Arquimedes Gamboa

The poll for #39 is up next.

26 thoughts on “PhuturePhillies Reader Top 30 (50) Poll for #39

  1. Chris Oliver. If they can find a delivery that suits him, he could be one of the biggest risers in the system this year.

  2. Arquimedes (Archie?) deserves a spot on this list…if by name alone. Can’t wait for the public address announcer naming his presence and entry into the game.

  3. this is the round he finally comes through! lets go walding!

    all the haters still can’t seem to grasp the simple concept he’s one of our best sleepers. homie mashed 7 yams last year and grounded into half as many double plays compared to 2013.

    1. The big bad number remains: 0.680 OPS. For a 3B repeating Lakewood, that just doesn’t cut it. In fact, it’s not close to cutting it. I’m not sure why you think 7 HRs is a big deal. Paired with a .237 BA, I am distinctly unimpressed.

    1. FTR, I like Neris. I hope he somehow turns his FB up 2MPH and maintains his control, but if he doesn’t he’s not going to be terribly valuable to the big club. He can eat less-than-important innings, but he’ll have a hard time dominating like you need to in order to be really valuable versus the next guy up from AAA. Hard to ding him for that in this reliever-rich system, but it’s a reality that he’s in a bad spot for his own career and frankly no one is trading anything of value for a guy like him. The best thing for Neris’ career (aside from a rash of injuries to other guys in the pen), might be Justin DeFratus dominating in the 7th inning and becoming too expensive for the Phils next year in arb with Giles and Diekman (and I think MAG) already holding down backend bullpen spots. DeFratus could be tradeable then for something other than filler, (as he’ll still be cheap for a club in need of someone for set-up role), and maybe that gives Neris room to pitch part-time in the 7th inning if he proves himself capable.

      Ok, I’m done. That’s a lot of parentheticals.

      1. Been looking for your work on CrAlley.
        I can only assume the frigid northeast temps have deep-frozen your creative writing until spring thaw.

        1. Yeah, I’m going to try to post my Top 30 before camp opens and then do some more stuff during spring ball before getting into regular features during the year. I hope to do something every other week all season long.

  4. Got to go with Oliver can be a breakout season with all that raw talent. If he finds himself he can be a top 20 prospect next year.

  5. Debated Oliver versus the other pitchers I think are in the same boat as him – primed for a breakout – Miguel Nunez, Lew Alezones and Denton Keys, and also against Malquin Canelo. I think Oliver beats out the other pitchers, but I can’t seem to shake the feeling that Canelo is going to improve with the bat. Canelo for me, but I’m basically flipping a coin at this point over Oliver.

  6. Also, the fact that Sam Hiciano and Cam Rupp are currently sitting #41 and 42 on my Top 92 is pretty sad for me, (yes, there are 92 guys on my list). I will say I am not sure why I haven’t pushed Rupp up my list. All of my old arguments hold true. And though his 2014 was an injury-laden mess, it wasn’t the type of big-body injury I worry about with a guy squatting ad hopping up all day. Maybe I am underrating him versus my own standard. Sorry, Cam.

    1. Hard to know what to think of Rupp. He could bounce back in 2015, but he certainly had a total disaster of a season in 2014. Can’t hit much worse than Rupp did.

    2. Rupp is no longer a rookie, so he should be off your list.

      “we continue to follow Baseball America’s standards for prospects by considering any player eligible for rookie status as eligible for this poll. As a quick refresher, the following players exceeded Rookie Status during the 2014 status – David Buchanan, Ken Giles, Miguel Gonzalez, Cesar Hernandez, Mario Hollands, Ethan Martin, and Cameron Rupp.”

      I’m still voting for another catcher, Gabriel Lino. I read people’s negative comments about him not showing much progress, but remember he advanced to Clearwater 3 weeks before he turned 21 and played well enough to remain there all season last year. He was 1.7 years younger than the average hitter in the Florida State League. So, he is still very young for a catcher playing at the high A level of competition. Of course, he still has improvements to make both offensively and defensively, and I think he will do so and become an FSL All-Star in his second year in the league.

      1. You mentioned age to level. When they factor in the average age….do they also factor in the equation the older MLB players that are sent down to their respective MLB minor league affiliates for the brief rehab assignments?
        Seems that could skew a prospects youngness to level.

      2. I don’t think the average includes rehab assignments, but it does include guys brought in from independent leagues to fill holes due to injuries or promotions and guys who are just organizational players hanging around to fill an organizational gap. The Phillies have a number of these org guys who play at pretty much whichever level they are needed at.

        Age 21 also comes with caveats. The normal age-level progression is also different for Latin American signees/H.S. draftees/ and college draftees. A college kid who ends his age 21 season in CLW is doing very well, especially if he puts up good stats. That is not as advanced for a LA or H.S signee. For Lino, that was his 5th season in organized baseball and 4th in the States. He also only put up a .584 OPS. So… kind of old for league for a L.A. signee and bad stats, equals not good. After this season he can be a minor league FA.

        When we acquired Lino in 2012 he was playing in the SAL league for the entire season. Two years later, in 2014, he’s splitting time between the SAL and FSL, and not putting up good stats. That’s awful progress over the course of two seasons. Considering that he put up about a .645 OPS in the SAL league in 2012, he has back-slid with the bat.

      3. I will have to look, but I thought MAG was still eligible, and Rupp as well. MAG was only in the bigs for a short amount of time, and I think most or all of that was in September, which should not count towards service time. Ditto Rupp, though he had an extended stretch in the middle of the year that was longer than I thought at some point, so very easily could be I’m just wrong there. Wouldn’t be the first time.

        1. Brad, before we started polling, I checked for service time in BR. I was likewise surprised that MAG had accumulated enough service time to lose his rookie status, 122 days. It’s either a miscalculation by BR or they count his rehab time before he reported to Reading and LHV due to his MLB contract? On March 29th they moved him from the 15-DL to the 60-DL, two designations not afforded to MiLB players. He was optioned to Reading on 7/2, clock stops. Recalled on 9/2, clock restarts. If you subtract those days from the season and you’re close to the 122 days he is credited.

          Rupp’s 89 days of service over 2 seasons exceeded the 45 days required to lose rookie status.

          FYI, I contacted Matt Eddy (BA) about Odubel Herrera. My quandry was that he was on the 25-man and without a subsequent transaction, he would not qualify as a Phillies prospect since the two most likely outcomes were he makes the opening day roster or returns to Texas. They actually had a meeting and discussed these types of picks and decided to include him and others when they extended the prospect lists from 10 to 30.

  7. I’m surprised Hiciano isn’t getting more support. I have him right after Oliver, and I don’t see any reason his upside can’t be average regular. His OBP dropped, but that could have been a fluke, he has good power, and is age appropriate for his level.

  8. To echo the sentiments of some others, there are still some guys on the board who I think are pretty interesting. Since we’re going to 50 now, I think we can get pretty much all of them listed. Guys like Hiciano, Nunez, Canelo and Viza should be coming up soon.

    Speaking of Viza, I think it’s time to start drumming up some support for him. I see people mentioning Keys, but Viza pitched two levels higher last year and they’re at the same experience level. It seems like people are getting way too caught up in his surface stats and his W-L record. His FIP was much lower than his ERA and he pitched about 75 more innings than Keys did last year, which should probably count for something.

    1. That’s an upside argument, I think. Viza profiles pretty low compared to Keys, but I do still like Viza, and the risk is lower since he’s got control on his side already. He was the 2nd youngest guy over 100 IP in the SAL, (the youngest guy also got shelled, and way worse, FTR).

      I hope people aren’t fretting about that w/l record, but you’re probably right that some see it as a negative. Enduring that summer with the wolves, without curling up in the corner of the dugout and balling his eyes out, (or alternately punching his pitching coach square in the jaw and walking home to Phoenix), proves he’s either very smart or very tough or some still-impressive combination of both.

      I have him at #50.

      1. Yeah, the physical projection and left-handedness favor Keys, but the only comments on his stuff I’ve seen are things Matt has written and it doesn’t sound like he has the makings of any dynamite pitches. They both seem like back-end starters, if they make it.

  9. Manuel chavez was in the Mexican league last yr and over the summer which some baseball man say is equal to AAA . He did really well there as a 19 yr old.he has a plus slider but I don’t know what else. Cody Forsythe and Colton Murray have also done well they could be the next bp pieces.

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