Draft Day 2 Discussion Rounds 3-10

2014 Draft

The drat kicks off today at 12:35 ET.  The Phillies will have 8 picks, they will likely take a mix of players, and that mix of players will determine where they go underslot, or if they stick to their board.   We will keep this post updated with picks as they come in.

Round 3 – Aaron Brown, OF, Pepperdine University

Round 4 – Chris Oliver, RHP, Arkansas

Round 5 – Rhys Hoskins, 1B, Sacramento State

Round 6 – Brandon Leibrandt, LHP, Florida State

Round 7 – Emmanuel Marrero, SS, Alabama St

Round 8 – Sam Mc Williams, RHP, Beech HS (TN)

Round 9 – Matt Hockenberry, RHP, Temple (Senior)

Round 10 – Matt Shortall, OF, Texas-Arlington (Senior)

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234 thoughts on “Draft Day 2 Discussion Rounds 3-10”

  1. I wanted Carson Sands with the 2nd round pick and he is still sitting there in the third. Tall high school lefty who throws hard, has secondary pitches and control.

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  2. Well the 3rd rd is the spot I expect the Phils to pick a high ceiling over slot HS player. Especially, being the last rd for protected picks.

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  3. I told my wife last night, that these 3 days and for 3 days in approximately 365 days, will determine how long until the Phils are contenders once again…….lets hope we look back at these days in 5-6 years and smile about finally they got it right.

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  5. Eagleeye, no way one draft makes or breaks the organization. It would be nice to hit a few home runs, but a great draft isn’t going to make them contenders again, and a horrible draft would be a huge burden, but good teams have had bad drafts before.

    A lot more than this draft will affect when/if the team is good again.

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    1. Actually, the draft that is going to make or break the organization five years from now is last year’s draft, it is looking good at the top with Crawford, but there are still some pretty exciting-on-paper guys like Sandberg, Hernandez, Knapp etc who have yet to show much of anything on the field. If Crawford turns into a star, Franco turns into a long-term solution in 3B, and one of the three mentioned above develop into an above-average major league player, then I’m actually optimistic about the team they will be putting on the field come around 2017. There’s way too much wishful thinking that would go into putting together a lineup, but I feel like they have possibilities at every position, including a surplus on the left side of the infield and at catcher. The major, depressing deficit was in starting pitching, and it seems like the team is trying to address that immediately. Who knows, maybe if everything clicks just right the last few years’ high ceiling guys and this year’s low risk guys will all arrive around the same time. That would be nice.

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      1. I agree with this statement. Last years draft is the one they have to hit on. Early results are favorable. The way I look at it Crawford, Knapp, Sandberg, Hernandez, Sweeney, T. Williams, Viza, Child and Keys are legit guys to keep our eyes on. Obviously, they won’t all pan out but I feel they all have legit chances to make it. And in Crawfords case can be a really good to All Star player.

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  6. I am hoping for at least 2 HS players (who are appropriately ranked) in our first 3 picks to give us some balance. I like Sands, we’ve been linked to Ramos the shortstop I think before. Forget the Stanford Commits (like Weisenberg). Bobby Bradley would be a fun pick but he’s a signability concern too unless they shaved some from Nola and Imhof (i’m not convinced they did). I could also see a College OF in the 3rd round too.

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  8. College hitters aren’t a panacea, especially in the 3rd round. Harold Martinez was a 2nd round pick. Rupp was a 3rd round pick. That’s the level of guys you’re looking at.

    A lot of people thought our 2013 draft was great, and we took mostly HS players near the top.

    Personally I want best player available, and getting some risk-reward types would be a good idea.

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    1. The next Joe Savery… just kidding thinking about his transition from LHP to hitter and back. Speaking of Savery, he has actually done pretty well in AAA for the A’s. Even got a brief call-up and pitched well

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      1. Did anyone notice the link at the bottom of the article about Ben Wetzler?

        “Oregon State left-handed pitcher Ben Wetzler was arrested on Saturday night for criminal trespassing in the first degree while criminal mischief in the second degree.

        According to the police, Wetzler was intoxicated and thought the residence he was entering was his place. It was not and he subsequently broke a window on the door. The residents of the place told Wetzler to leave and proceeded to call the Corvallis Police Department.

        The incident took place on Saturday morning at 4:39am which was only a few hours after Wetzler pitched eight innings allowing only two runs against UCLA.

        Interesting that Wetzler was in the dugout on Saturday and Sunday after the incident. Oregon State head coach Pat Casey did not speak to the media after the team completed a sweep of UCLA on Sunday.”

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        1. I think this might be somewhat old news from the beginning of the year, unless he did the same exact same again: first time expressed remorse, was given a short suspension from the team, and assigned community service.

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  14. the raw power and defensive ability make him a more attractive outfield prospect in the eyes of the majority of scouts. He lacks the straight line speed to be an impact defender in center field at the next level despite standing out there at the college level, though he should be able to handle center if pressed into duty there, though the corners are a better fit. He has the raw power to play at any position and the requisite arm strength for right field, the question is how much the power will play. He has an aggressive swing that is prone to swings and misses but allows him to generate impressive power when he does connect. Through 52 games this season he is hitting .319/.362/.575 with 12 home runs. The hope is that by giving up pitching and concentrating his full attention to being a position player that he may improve his contact rate to the point where he can unlock the rest of his raw power and hit for a high enough average to be an impact corner outfielder.

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  17. That guy seems pretty interesting actually. Present production with a unknown growth potential if he focuses on pitching.

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      1. from what I have heard, he has pretty good hand eye coordination for contact, but instead of taking pitches and drawing more walks, he has a tendancy to swing at and foul off the pitches he doesn’t like. This gives me hope that with a concentration on the bat, he can improve recognition enough to learn to lay off those pitches.

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  21. I like this guy actually. Present production with possible growth just by focusing on pitching.

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  25. shame.. I liked Railey as a toolsy OF from HS. Unlike most of our toolsy guys in the past, this kids best present tool is his contact. Would have been a good talent in round 3

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  26. No. This was the spot to draft the upside HS kid. I think this was a tactical error and I’m not wild about the guy’s hitting ability. Low obp is a problem especially if he can’t stick in CF.

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    1. I like the fact they are going college up top….David Murphy says from the ’08 Draft,—-‘…..eight of the 13 college players selected in the second round …. have played in the majors, compared with six of 17 high schoolers ….’.

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  28. Nick M might get his wish for Carson Sands in the fourth round! Still available at #102, we draft #111

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  29. Brown may be a college player, but he’s definitely an upside pick. Two-way player, good athlete, pretty raw. Power, strikeouts, low walks.

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  31. as of 1:51, Mac Marshall and Dylan Cease still available. 2 high-schoolers that may require some $$ to sign. I would not be upset if they went this way with their next pick.

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    1. Apparently Dylan Cease didn’t pitch much this spring because of an elbow issue….seems like a red flag for such a young kid.

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      1. you are correct. But, that is the reason he is on the board at this point. Was a possible first rounder, prior to injury. (agree with you about the red flag, just thinking risk/reward at this point)

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  32. Yea…Carson Sands would be a solid pick at 111
    Still hopin’ for Bryce Montese in the 5th

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    1. saying that he has mid-90’s fastball. Had a DUI a few days ago, which surely did not help. Sounds like jury is out on starter versus reliever.

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  37. was more of a 2nd round pick, nice fastball and breaking pitch. Raw with the change and command. arrested for a DUI, which is why he dropped. Hopefully he is signable for his 4th round money.

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  39. ranked right behind Imhof

    50. Chris Oliver, rhp, University Arkansas (JR)
    R-R, 6-3/185, Farmington, Ark.
    Previously Drafted: Orioles ’11 (27)

    Oliver has been one of the pleasant surprises of the spring, coming from a small Arkansas high school, working out of the Razorbacks’ bullpen for two years before blossoming as the team’s Sunday starter this year. His fastball has consistently been in the 93-95 mph range, topping at 98 mph, to go with a low-80s sharp breaking ball that varies between slider and curveball shape.

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  41. So the new strategy is to take the raw outfielders and a projectable right handers from college?

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  42. so, 4 picks, 4 college juniors. Does this allow more $$ flexibility should they want to go after a college-commit high schooler?

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    1. not necessarily. They are all college jrs, so they have the leverage to go back to school. They aren’t the Srs that will sign for 10k. Im not sure we’ve saved that much money so far, but I don’t think we’ve gone over slot either.

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  45. That’s 4 for 4 on college players. Guess Phils are trying a different approach. Pretty good value for Oliver here. I’d imagine they try them as starter at first.

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    1. should this surprise anyone? I think we all read the hundred of articles on how much better Cardinals drafts have been by taking college guys. If anything this shows willingness on phillies to atleast test if there previous way of thinking might be flawed.

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  46. 4th round: Chris Oliver, RHP, U. of Arkansas. From MLB’s scouting report, sounds like a reliever waiting to happen.

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  47. from mlb.com

    Projectable power arms from the college ranks aren’t all that common, but Arkansas has a good one in Oliver. A member of the Razorbacks’ weekend rotation, the tall right-hander has some serious upside. Oliver has a live arm, with a fastball he can dial up past the mid 90s at times. He throws downhill from his 6-foot-4 frame with some run and sink as well. Tall and slender, Oliver calls his breaking ball a curve, but it’s really a slider. It’s inconsistent from start to start, but it shows flashes of being an out pitch. His changeup is below average and behind the other two. That, along with his command, are the two things that hold him back as a starting pitching prospect. The jury is out about whether Oliver will remain a starter, but he has the power arsenal to succeed in the bullpen if that’s the direction that makes the most sense.

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  48. Four college pitchers in first four picks. Brown looks like he will be an OF however. One with a 30 rating for speed. Hm? Hope he is well under slot.

    Liked pickup of Oliver. DUI arrest probably cost him 40-50 spots in the draft.

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  49. John Sickels said he was projected in the 2nd round before the DUI and can hit mid 90s with the fastball, but has to work on the slider and changeup

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  50. I’m guessing the Phillies are happy with the rosters they have at GCL and Williamsport and are trying to augment A and up. I have no issue with this. They still have a bunch of lottery tickets from last years draft in GCL and Williamsport to bank on while trying to replenish their upper minors.

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  51. I like Oliver. Like him better than our 3rd rounder. Still bummed out we didn’t use 3rd round to stretch a little with a projectable HS kid. No refunds if they don’t sign after this. The strength of the draft is HS arms and we go 4 rounds without one? I liked Nola to start, but following him with 3 more collegians? Might work out, but not to my taste.

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    1. My guess is you will see HS’ers after the tenth round. I’m predicting some boring college senior at 6-10 for slot reasons followed by some HS’ers 11-15. Just a guess.

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  53. I liked Lavalle the HS 3B that the reds just took. Might be a 1b in the future but this kid has contact and power and what scouts say is the best bat speed in the draft. Comps to Trumbo or butler.

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  62. 146. Rhys Hoskins, 1b/of, Cal State Sacramento (JR)
    R-R, 6-4/225, Sacramento, Calif.
    Previously Drafted: Never

    Hoskins shows 55-60 raw power in batting practice, generating it with ease and using his lower half effectively. He does a good job of using the opposite field and letting the ball track deep. He moves well in the outfield, and it appears he can play right field at the professional level. The final stat line for Hoskins was an outstanding one in the Cape Cod League last summer – he hit .326 with seven home runs and a league leading 37 RBI. He’s followed that up with a strong spring, hitting .328 with nine home runs, and a .441 on-base percentage that reflects his above average plate discipline. Hoskins is a fringe runner with average arm strength, so there is a belief in the scouting world that he may be able to stick at a corner outfield spot. But, his above average power may allow him to profile at first base.

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      1. Out of Northern California. Went to high school with both Dan Child and Zach Green. Killed it in Cape Cod last year.

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    3. Hm, mlb.com says he can be a pull hitter “sometimes to a fault.” So, a little conflict in the scouting reports there.

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  64. If Hoskins can play corner OF with power than will be a steal. Then again, the whole draft is about Ifs.

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  65. callis and mayo seem to think he might be bit of a plodder out in the OF, they are a bit more worried about the contact ability than the report above.

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      1. What the Phillies have done so far, is an indictment of their previous approach to the Draft. I wonder when the last time they led off the draft with 5 College Jrs

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        1. I wouldn’t call it an “Indictment”. I doubt this is going to be an ongoing shift in strategy.

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          1. When you do basically a 180 from your prior strategy and that prior strategy netted you the lowest cumulative WAR in baseball over the past decade, I think you’d have to call it a self-renunciation or indictment of the prior strategy. There is a danger in that the scouting department was geared to evaluate prospects according to the prior organizational philosophy. If they did poorly implementing the philosophy they were hired for and trained up in and are then asked to do a 180 on likely quite short notice… I like some of the picks a lot, others not as much, but it will be most interesting to see the results a few years from now of using the same scouting staff to implement a huge directional change.

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          3. I would. But lets give them credit for making an attempt at fixing their flawed approach for past 10 years.

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  69. Seems like the kind of guy who could have a big year Reading, leading to interminable arguments around here about whether he’s a prospect.

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  70. My prediction for next rd is Isiah Gilliam. HS OF prospect coming out a yr early. Was projected as potential 1st rounder next yr. Will have to go over slot though.

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    1. If they are continue to draft guys who will sign slot or underslot, they need to go with at least one or two out of the ten who are overslot.

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      1. Is there some expectation that they are drafting underslot guys? MAYBE Rhys, but I’m expecting the rest are slot at least.

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        1. I think that is correct. I would hope the 3rd rounder is under-slot, but probably not. Rounds 1,2,4 very unlikely to be underslot.

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            1. Who among us hasn’t walked into the wrong house while drunk?

              Ok, I guess I never did that. But that was just a happy accident.

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  71. outside of the first round, I really like what the cubs have done in this draft, but I guess they needed that saved money from the first to sign this prep guys.

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  72. Aaaron Brown looks interesting but a 51/8 K:B ratio kind of depresses any hope I have for him. At least he has a fallback option.

    Oliver’s numbers don’t seem to matchup with the stuff. Hopefully he finds more success at the pro level a la Morgan.

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    1. Rd 6 from 2013, Jason Monda syas he is going to med school..wonder if anyone will take a chance on drafting him anyway.

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    1. For a guy who could be canned in less then four months, Ruben seems to be wanting more instant gratification.

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      1. Nola might help Clearwater this year, but the rest are going to Williamsport or Lakewood, yeah?

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        1. Next year, I would imagine if they live up to some of their talent in short season ball at least.

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        2. Somebody’s going to have to start for the GCL Clearwater team, or would they send Gueller back there?

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  78. Stros’ irony…..the pick one of the strongest and best collegiate HR hitters in AJ Reed, 6’4″, 240 lbs….and say he will go to first base. This week Jon Singleton signs a great contract.
    I guess one DHs and the other plays first.

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  79. Plus if they manage to sign all these guys they get to dispell the Ben Wexler blowback talk.

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      1. Ask the Phillies if they seriously scouted any Oregon State kids this spring.

        Not that we need to be able to work with a weak program like Oregon State. They hardly ever produce any good players. Oh wait…

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  82. I don’t see any of the picks so far being someone who the Phillies will need to go overslot for so I expect a few of these top-10 round picks will be below-slot and then the Phillies will have (assuming and hopefully paying the 5% penalty) a solid mid to high-six figure signing bonus to offer to their 11th/12th/13th/whatever round pick which would be a HS kid.

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    1. Phillies are definitely not drafting for need here – they are currently loaded with Emmanuels, and still went best Emmanuel available.

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      1. The Phillies really value versatility, so maybe he can switch it to Enmanuel. We only have one of those.

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  84. originally from Puerto Rico. guys on the feed say he is a defensive guy with a questionable bat.

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  86. Well that’s a relief, I was just thinking about how we didn’t have any offensively lacking defensive SS’s….

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  89. Do you think that we will be able to sign all of these draft picks? @Matt Winkelman
    Any of these sign for under slot?

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    1. to answer your question myself Jack, I dont see any of these picks being overslot tough signs, as long as they did their homework this year and actually checked to make sure these guys wanted to come out. The only pick that really stands out as a possible under slot signing might be round 6.

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      1. Thank you @dcwildcat53. I want them to sign some of these toolsy high schoolers. Just like the pitcher we just took. Now we need to draft two college seniors with our next picks to save some money. Could someone give me a link of how much money the Phillies have for every pick.

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  94. 6’7 kid. Velo took a jump upto 94 at times which made him a late riser in the draft but was variable. Off speed stuff is fringy right now. He is only 190 pounds at that height, so I gotta believe he can add some muscle that will help his velo stay high more consistently.

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    1. From Perfect Game:

      “McWilliams qualifies as the most-obvious pop-up player in the Tennessee prep ranks this spring after he saw a significant spike in his velocity from a typical 86-88 mph as a junior to the mid- to low-90s as a senior. But a lot depended on when he was seen as he had his share of good days when his fastball consistently reached 93-94 mph and augmented it with a near average breaking ball, and his bad days, when his fastball would back off to its previous level and he struggled to miss bats. McWilliams dropped his final outing of the 2014 season, 5-3, when he was out-dueled by Clarksville High junior righthander Donny Everett, a projected first-rounder in 2015. McWilliams’ long, lean frame obviously holds considerable appeal with scouts, as does his signability as he is viewed as the most signable player among the top prep prospects in the state.”

      http://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=9925

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  95. right after that pick Rockies took Harrison Musgrave, a 33rd round pick of the Phillies last year that went back to WVU

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  97. Tweet from Tenn. Tech assistant coach and recruiting coordinator:

    “I wish TTU signee @SamMcWilliams3 nothing but the best. Unreal future and enjoyed recruiting and getting to know him in the process! #mlb”

    Sounds like he’s signing.

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    1. sounds like the kid didn’t wanna play games, which is always a good thing. Probably told teams if they gave him a certain number he was all in. Hopefully its right at slot, and they can afford to take another shot in these last 2 rounds today. Probably not though, I have a feeling we will see two college Srs to round it out.

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  100. I think I would prefer the kid Rohrbach that the rockies took than the Temple kid who went right before.

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  101. This draft is a draft of desperate gm and scouting department. looking for college guys who hopefull look good at lower level.They hoping to save there asses. kid from temple. why not just give the money to a homeless guy, temple pitcher, a shortstop who cant hit, in the top ten, how many of them can you find in college ball later on. I realize the only way these mess is turned around imo is if middleton. buys this team.

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    1. Nola and Imhof are quality picks….and if they are the only two that ‘star’ in the majors, then it was worth it.

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    2. You may be right with some of the other college picks. The Phillies were going for the allure of ‘safety/major league closeness’ due to a very poor farm system from LHV all the way to LAK in terms of projectible pitching (when you take out Biddle) almost every other top SP prospect is or was injured in the past 2 years.

      However, the Temple pick is not reflective of trying to save their jobs. It’s reflective of the format of the draft pool. The Temple pick is a way to sign a guy for like $10,000/$20,000 who you probably wouldn’t have drafted until later on, but that injects back like $150,000 into your draft pool. Allowing the Phillies to then target multiple players taken after the 10th round who may be more unlikely to sign and see which of them will sign.

      Almost all MLB teams are doing this with various picks in the top-10 rounds of the draft since the new CBA went into effect.

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      1. I am just frustrated with there way of scouting. I Like nola, imdof and read some nice things on brown. Doesnt it seem strange that we all had to bitch for them to go after some arms and not fat guys like greene and workout kings like hewittt. I just really get the feeling they dont have a clue. nola to me will be a better option than kenricks or pettibone. seems to have better fastball and commands it,which i love. I didn’t like marty saying that his upside is a three, not for the seventh pick in the draft,

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        1. You just know that Rube is rocking his “what would roccom do” bracelet in the war room. He probably admonishes Marty W any time he even thinks about drafting a flabby guy or a workout warrior or an excessive punctuater

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      1. no problem. I got lucky and had the week off so I was able to waste my day away listening and commenting. Lucky for you guys, my tee time fell through for this morning.

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  103. Sr. sign with pretty decent numbers. Maybe they saved a bit of money in rounds 9 and 10 that they can use on a HS player like they did last year with Keys and viza

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  104. I’m excited that the Phillies took a fellow Owl. With our baseball program disbanded, this is probably the last good news we’ll ever have. Congrats to Matt!

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  106. 11-40 get picked tomorrow. There are a lot of high potential HS arms that will be left on the board to start tomorrow. The question about a lot of them will be signability. This is where a good local scout will come into play, we will see what personal relationships they established with these kids and their families, and hopefully we can find a few that were thought to be unsignable but are really eager to get into the system.

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    1. unfortunately, while we might see one or two suprises tomorrow, the vast majority of the picks tomorrow will be college srs that don’t make more than a ripple.

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  108. Assuming that everyone from rounds 1 to 8 signs for their allotted slot. If we sign the seniors for 15k a piece we would have 260k to play with for the 11th to 40th round. That is how it works, right? Do you think that we could sign the 6th round pick for under slot. 200k maybe. Then we would have 320k to work with. I want to land a few toolsy high school players. If anything I wrote above is wrong let me know. I’m here to learn more.

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  109. in rounds 11-40 you can sign anyone you want up to 100k without it counting against the pool. Anything you go over that amount gets dinged off the pool. So there is still a chance we could find a couple kids like Denton Keys last year that will sign for 150-200 if we have that money to play with.

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  110. 309. Brandon Leibrandt, lhp, Florida State (JR)
    L-L, 6-5/205, Atlanta, Ga.
    Previously Drafted: Rays ’11 (48)

    Leibrandt had made 41 consecutive starts for Florida State, including six this year (4-1, 1.83) dating back to the beginning of his freshman year, going a combined 22-8, when he was hit just below the left knee playing catch with a teammate in practice. The freak injury, diagnosed as a severe bone contusion, has kept him out ever since and left him questionable for the postseason as well. Leibrandt has always been a finesse pitcher in the style of his father, 15-year Major League veteran Charlie Leibrandt, but his velocity had picked up this spring and he was touching 90-91 mph occasionally to go with his plus changeup and solid slider. There was talk before the injury that Leibrandt could break into the top five rounds, but he had not been extensively cross-checked prior to going down and that scenario will be difficult now, even if he does come back in a limited role prior to the draft.

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  111. I ‘m happy with most of the pic’s the ss and temple pitcher real reaches though. I Love getting Oliver and Brown. I think Brown will be a pitcher from what I Seen of him.I know at least now they do scout around his area now lol .

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    1. Marrero was ranked 171 by MLB.com and 245 by BA. He went 202. That wasn’t a reach.

      Brown probably starts in the field and if he can’t hit (which seems likely) you can put him back on the mound.

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  112. Aaron Brown doesn’t walk enough, but I don’t understand where this “can’t hit” talk came from. Brown hit .318 with 12 home runs last year. That’s more home runs and a higher average than Mike Papi, who has no positional value and went in the first round.

    That being said- judging solely by his numbers and scouting reports, I’d try him on the mound first. Brown was flat out dominant on the mound this spring, posting some of the best numbers of any pitcher in the country. He was more efficient on the mound than at the plate. I ‘d really like to see whether commiting to pitching full time could result in an uptick in his stuff and command, because his upside on the mound might be as high as Imhof’s.

    That’s the issue with Aaron Brown and 2 way players in general- he’s at least the 3rd best pitcher the Phillies drafted and the 1st or 2nd best hitter.

    Maybe they should take a long, up close look at Brown this summer and even in XST if necessary, before deciding what his permanent role should be. Maybe I’m still bitter about Savery, whom I always preferred as a hitter, post – labrum tear. I typically prefer toolsy 2 way players to play everyday, so Aaron Brown’s a rare case for me, but hopefully they’ve made the right decision. Obviously their scouts are infinitely better informed and it seems most around the league prefer him in the outfield.

    Where did this 30 speed rating come from? It’s hard to believe any D-I starting centerfielder, especially one playing for a good team, could have anything below average speed. Even in high school, center fielders are typically the fastest guys on the team. Brown’s speed is a critical issue, because his power plays very well in center, but less so in right. I’d think Brown’s speed would factor heavily in to his position, with the mound such a viable alternative.

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    1. I read a lot on brown i believe his future is not as a pitcher, he missed a number of at bats in this first two years.He had injury issues, watching him swing he is a uppercut swing, looks like a moss type maybe as a comp, think you will know fast on this kid, start in clearwater i hope.

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    2. His K:BB numbers tell me he is going to struggle against advanced pitching. I’m seeing it now against Finnegan.

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  113. Does everyone remember Frazier and Allen from 2010? Let it play out. There are more flame outs than successes. Hopefully, this years draft provides more successes than failures.

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  114. If the Phillies sign all of their top 10 picks and they want to go overslot somewhere in their total draft but don’t want to lose next year’s #1 pick, they have $7,241,535. That’s +5% over their draft pool of $6,896,700. There’s another $345.8K that they can go overslot. They’ll have to pay a 75% tax on the overage but that’s just money. #9 and 10 picks are college seniors who will probably sign underslot. Somewhere else along the way, there may be some other money found by going underslot. There’s still talent sitting on the board who could be signed for some extra bucks. With the attendance dwindling at the Park, they may need to make a big splash in the Rule 4 draft and the International Draft. No one’s coming to the rescue right now but a few good men could offer hope for the future and possibly the near term future.

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  115. Never heard of Rule 4 draft. Do you mean Rule 5?

    They pay the tax on the amount above $7,241,535.

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      1. Matt….way before you were born there were two other drafts…..one was right after New Year’s in January and the other was sometime late in the summer before Labor Day. The January draft I think were for December grads and the late summerdraft for summer league guys who didn’t get drafted earlier but played in AAU type leagues around the country.
        All so confusing.

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    4. Everyone else and their grandmother chimed in on the Rule 4 draft but the Phillies will pay a 75% “tax” on any amount over $6,896,700. For every dollar over their slot value, they’ll actually pay $1.75. The dollar to the signee and the $.75 to the league office.

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