Cosart’s probably getting a little tired-either from the innings this year or after the short Futures Game stint. Strikeouts are down, but he’s done more than enough this year. Here’s hoping he just keeps picking up innings and stays injury free
Also H-Mart went 2-4 with 2 doubles. If he can have a productive rest of the season at Williamsport while maintaining his BB% would the Phils double jump him up to Clearwater next year while moving Franko to Lakewood so they can both get full time 3B reps? I personally would consider him a top 15 prospect going into next season if he can finish this year batting at least .280 with a .400 OBP although he does need to raise his Slugging% as he moves on, his reputation from hs and college before the injury suggest he should be fine there as he settles into pro ball.
Might they instead thinking of moving Martinez up to Lakewood this season? There’s really no reason to have both him and Franco taking turns at 3B, unless they’re really at the exact same level development-wise (which is hard to believe, considering one is an LA signing and the other a three-year college draftee). Maybe one of the Williamsport guys can shed some light on this? Any reason to think Martinez’s excellent plate approach in the NYPL wouldn’t translate to the Sally?
You guys know I love HMART. It seems reasonable to move both he and Asche to Clearwater next year based on age. Franco may very well prove to be the better prospect but I’m all about age appropriate levels.
I to am a bit miffed that Harold has yet to flash any of the power potential he was touted for. Am hoping the scouting reports on his lack of bat speed being a concern do not manifest to be true.
Well yeah, Anonymous’s love for Harold Martinez is the stuff of legend around here.
To your point about power, I think the lack of it is what dropped him to the end of the 2nd round, no? But to me, a guy who can play a great 3B and get on base is a pretty valuable commodity, power or not. I mean, the Phillies have a guy like that playing the position for them in the majors right now. So the power would be nice, but I’m more interested to see if he can maintain the plate discipline as he moves up.
Santana’s blast would have won the game and Shreve would have had a win if the Blueclaws had had an error free last half inning. As Murray would have been out of the inning for the Crosscutters. Singleton the only multi-hitter tonight for Clearwater and with a home run. The first pitcher and Sosa were the only ones who pitched well. Cosart probably needed more rest after his great performance in the futures game. He is going to have to take things a year at-a-time and get his pitching strength to be ready to be a starter. I don’t see him moving quickly unless it is as a closer. The diemma is that he needs the innings, but doesn’t seem to have the stamina.
Shreve seems to have settled into the relief/closer spot really well after a shaky start in the rotation to begin the season. I’ll be very surprised if he’s still in Lakewood at the end of the season.
I really don’t like that Cosart pitched tonight after pitching on Sunday. He’s already pitched more innings this season than he ever has before—what was the rush? I know he only threw about 10 pitches at the Futures Game but I still think someone messed up on this one.
I just looked him up. He has been playing in several different Independent Leagues from 2006 up until now. He is 29 so it seems like he is just an organizational filler.
I like Hyatt’s All-Star line. Home run Singleton! Not liking all the XBH off Cosart, especially in such a short appearance. Like the Martinez doubles and Altherr’s night, along with Morgan’s and Morgado’s strikeouts in Williamsport. From GCL Warner pitched really well and Villalobos had another hit to go with his walk- noticed that he’s struck out only twice so far, which is good. Also glad to see Morelos back in the VSL, even if only for one at-bat.
When was Morelos not in the VSL? It seems to be he was either injured or benched for a time in favor of Francisco Silva. Did not see something that said he was in another league.
Anyone want to speculate what Cosart’s innings cap is year? He’s at 95.0 now. He pitched 71.1 last year.
The Verducci effect is an innings increase of 30. Is that something to worry about? 30 innings would put him at 101.1 which would be his next start if he pitches well.
Cosart was shut down for a good portion of last year so, if he’s healthy, he’ll go past the 100 innings. My thoughts are that he won’t go past 6 innings an outing for the rest of the year (unless his pitch count is low). I think he’ll get at least 130 (if healthy).
“Shiver me timbers”, Hewitt has 5 BBs in 11 games in July. He could be hired as the minor league walk instructor.
In the future’s game the announcers talked a bit about the unsung heros of the minor leagues. The coaches and the roving instructors. They talked a lot about these guys working with a pitcher to develop a new pitch or change their motion to get a few more MPH or movement. They talked about raw hitters who get the instruction to be more patient or identify pitches better. We, on this site, often overlook these guys but they deserve all the accolades we can give them. Thanks guys.
That sounds about right. It might also be a good experience for him if they put him in the bullpen down the stretch, especially if the team is going to the playoffs. Playoff experience would be great, but make him the closer to keep his innings down.
Also Jarred Cosart was asked on twitter by someone why his k/9 is down and he replied: “Working on staying healthy pitching to contact. They will pick up here as season goes on.” So that probably explains a little bit of it.
No one wants to mention Josh Warner’s 7 inning, 2 hitter with 6 Ks? Nice outing by the Aussie. I’ve mentioned this before but Cosart’s showing probably had less to do with pitching after the Future’s game as it did with Madson getting the start and 1 inning. It messes up a starter’s routine. There’s also the gawk factor. You tend to watch a guy you admire and not think so much about what you should be doing.
did anyone watch aflac game from 07 harold martinez played short, and showed power, rupp is finally i hope started to hit which would be nice to have a couple of offense catchers. this time of year gets nuts to me cause i fall in love with some prospects and then the trade dealine comes. did anyone see biddle last start what he was throwing his velocity?do you think the amount of innings with the young guys effects there velocity??
Cosart is sort of in the same spot Knapp was in but Knapp was a clearer position. Knapp answer was to move him up and do shorter appearances. Clearly he needs to cut back then restart in the AFL to get the innings he needs. No way he can do the AFL with his load. Moving up is a loaded question. I ask who has the better pitching coach Clearwater or Reading?
The reality is that its unlikely that coast, may, and Colvin could all make the big league roster at the same time. Trading one of them is not that crazy but unless you get a big time player who can start for the team for a few more years like Pence, it won’t happen now.
Villalobos is definitely in the back end of my Top 30 at this point. Only 19, first season really playing organized ball (5 games and 14 PA last year is hardly anything), and is batting .333 with 3 BB and only 2 K in 66 PA (no Ks in July so far). I’d like to see more power and speed, but if he can play SS as his body matures, he can certainly be a Polanco or Starlin Castro type player. Just speculating on him, but he seems like a better bet with most others simply due to that bat control.
Anybody else notice that Valle allowed 6 SB’s in the game yesterday? I know a lot of that is on the pitcher, but it was off of two different pitchers with a couple of steals of third thrown in there.
I think it is time for Jeff Larish and Dane Sardinha to go. Larish isn’t doing what was expected of him and I would rather see Rizzotti move up to Lehigh Valley and maybe let Jim Murphy take Rizzotti’s spot at Reading. And as for Dane Sardinha, he is awful. He was really bad for the Phillies and he is doing much worse in Lehigh Valley. I looked up his stats and he has been consistently batting in the high .100’s or low .200’s for the past few years in the minors. John Suomi just got sent to Lehigh Valley from Cleawater so hopefully that means that Dane is going to get released soon. There is no need for three catchers so I would much rather have a guy like Mike Spidale go up or Kevin Frandsen can just take his spot.
You realize that Sardinha has the highest OBP of anyone who was on the Phillies MLB roster this season. In addition, it appears that the Phillies pitchers were comfortable pitching to him. Admittedly, he did not block the plate well, but two out of three aint bad.
For a guy like Sardinha to have his offensive stats in the minors for all of those years in AAA and still find a job pretty much tells that he’s very well thought of defensively. His role in LV is to handle the pitching staff. Suomi has been just as bad during his career offensively at multiple levels so I’m not sure that’s he’s an improvement?
Thought I’d share a few other observations from the Cutters game last night here in Mass.
Adam Morgan: Pitched well after giving up the long HR in the second inning. Definitely more of crafty soft-tosser type: fastball was between 87-89, showed some kind of off-speed pitch at 82, and another one in the low 70s.
Bryan Morgado: First two innings were dominant – saw him hit 92 a few times on the fastball, although it looked faster than that in comparison to Morgan. I’m not really sure about the decision to bring Morgado out for a third inning…he got into some trouble and also made a throwing error on a close play at first.
Matt Campbell: Pitched very effectively in his WPT debut: doesn’t light up the radar gun, but has a bit of a funky, 3/4 kind-of delivery that seemed to keep the Lowell bats guessing.
As for the hitters, Altherr had a pretty good game…three stolen bases were really nice to see. Dugan hit the ball hard a couple times, as did Martinez and Franco. Asche’s three-run bomb in the 9th had everyone pretty shocked, especially since the Cutters offense to that point had been relatively stale.
Domingo Santana has been hit by 11 pitches. The old adage of a walk’s as good as a hit should be extended to getting hit is as good as a hit. They must be trying to bust him inside and he doesn’t budge.
I do believe HBP is something of a skill. Its relative to how close you stand to the plate as well. No shame in taking one on the arm and trotting to first.
Some other notes. A few years ago, I was a big believer in the whole “Verducci 30 innings” thing, but I’ve kind of backed off of that. First, 30 innings is pretty arbitrary. Second, teams have a good idea of the workloads guys are turning in, and they factor in things like number of high stress innings, high pitch count innings, work in side sessions, etc etc. I assume that from here on out, they will watch each of Cosart’s starts carefully and begin to start limiting his pitch counts.
I’ve made the analogy before, and one that I didn’t make up. Starting pitching is like training for a marathon. You don’t wake up one day and decide to run 26.2 miles. Its something you train for. A gradual increase ise is almost assuredly the right path to take, but I don’t know that it’s 30 innings, or 50, or 60. Huge jumps are obviously not a great idea, but 75 innings to 125 innings, for instance, wouldn’t be that crazy, especially if they are monitoring his pitch counts closely and not overtaxing him.
I actually think there is some movement underway in baseball to begin moving away from the pitch count philosophy and back towards the idea that a pitcher needs to pitch to build up the arm strength and stamina needed. Texas is the most known one with Nolan Ryan taking over the control but the Phillies seem to be another team that is allowing their young pitchers to get more work.
It’s a slow movement and I don’t expect a return to 4-man rotations and 300 Inning seasons but the magic 100 pitch barrier is being broken more and more by younger and younger pitchers.
(3) Jon Singleton (CLW-8/18/91)- (.279) –2 for 4 with a HR (7), RBI (38)
Darin Ruff (CLW-7/28/86) – (.311) 0 for 3 with a BB
Jim Murphy (LWD-9/16/85) – (.282) 0 for 3 with run, RBI (61) and a BB
Pat Murray (WIL/12/24/86) – (.230) 0 for 5 with a K
Matthew Holland (GCL-8/21/87) – (.308) 1 for 3
Enderson Villegas (VSL-1/31/92) – (.262) 1 for 3
Second base
(12) Cesar Hernandez (CLW-5/23/90) – (.258) 1 for 3 with a BB
Fidel Hernandez (CLW-1/18/86) – (.160) 0 for 4 with 2 K’s
Carlos Perdomo (LWD-4/25/90) – (.229) 0 for 3 with a BB
Cody Asche (WIL-6/20/90) – (.217) 1 for 5 with a HR (1), 3 RBI (9) and 2 K’s
Carlos Valenzuela (GCL-9/18/90) – (.328) 0 for 3 with 2 K’s
Jose Mayorga (VSL-8/20/92) – (.269) 0 for 4
Third base
Travis Mattair (LWD-12/21/88) – (.250) 1 for 5 with 2 RBI (15) and 2 K’s
Geancarlo Mendez (LWD/11/17/89) – (.259) 1 for 4 with a K
Maikel Franco (WIL-8/26/92) – (.255) –1 for 5 with a 2B (6), run and a K
Harold Martinez (WIL-5/31/90) – (.269) – 2 for 5 with 2 2B (6), run and a K
Drew Hillman (GCL-5/4/89) – (.341) – 0 for 4 with a K
Trey Ford (GCL-7/25/90) – (.067) 0 for 3
Shortstop
Troy Hanzawa (CLW-9/12/95) – (.211) 1 for 4 with a 2B (11), RBI (26) and 2 K’s
Edgar Duran (LWD-2/10/91) – (.257) 2 for 4 with a run, SB (9) and a BB
Taylor Black (WIL-2/17/89) – (.239) 1 for 5 with 2 K’s
Jair Morelos (VSL-2/2/94) – (.301) – 0 for 1
Francisco Silva (VSL-5/12/91) – (.143) 0 for 2 with a run
Corner outfield
Brian Gump (CLW-6/16/87) – (.229) 0 for 3 with a BB and 3 K’s
D’Arby Myers (CLW-12/9/88) – (.250) 0 for 4 with 2 K’s
(13) Domingo Santana (LWD-8/5/92) – (.266) 2 for 5 with a HR (7), 3 RBI (25), 2 runs, SB (3) and 3 K’s
Anthony Hewitt (LWD-4/27/89) – (.234) 0 for 4 with a run, SB (20), BB and a K
(27) Miguel Alvarez (LWD-8/27/89) –(.273) – 0 for 0 with a run
(15) Aaron Altherr (WIL-1/14/91) – (.297) – 2 for 5 with a run, 3 SB (8) and a K
(28) Kelly Dugan (WIL-9/18/90) –(.283) – 1 for 4 with a BB and a K
Bernardo Solarte (GCL/1/23/92) – (.167) 0 for 3
Jorge Miranda (GCL-5/26/91) – (.069) 0 for 3
Rosmel Fajardo (VSL-7/19/92) – (.233) – 1 for 4 with a SB (7)
Gregorio Machado (VSL-10/28/91) – (.213) 0 for 1 with a K
Centerfield
(18) Jiwan James (CLW-4/11/89) – (.267) – 0 for 2 with a run, BB and a K
Zach Collier (LWD-9/18/90) – (.273) – 1 for 5 with a 2B (17) and 3 K’s
Kyrell Hudson (WIL-16/6/90) – (.255) – 0 for 5 with 2 K’s
Bill Rice (GCL-9/7/88) – (.306) – 2 for 4 with a run and a K
Herlis Rodriguez (VSL-6/10/94) – (.283) – 1 for 4 with a 2B (3) and RBI (14)
Catchers
(6) Sebastian Valle (CLW-7/24/90) – (.323) 1 for 4 with a K
(17) Cameron Rupp (LWD-9/28/88) – (.249) – 1 for 5 with a K
Bob Stumpo (WIL-/17/87) – (.273) 1 for 5 with a K
John Hill (GCL-2/11/89) – (.238) 0 for 3 with 2 K’s
Kevin Quaranto (GCL-5/13/88) – (.250) 0 for 0
Wilson Garcia (VSL-1/11/94) – (.278) 1 for 2 with a BB
Starting Right-handers
(4) Jared Cosart (CLW-5/25/90) – (7-7, 3.51) – 3 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB and 4 K’s (Loss)
Josh Warner (GCL-10/10/92) – (1-1, 5.27) 7 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 Bb and 6 K’s (win)
Left-handed Starters
Ervis Manzanillo (LWD/8/25/91) – (7-4, 4.57) – 3.2 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB and 2 K’s
Adam Morgan (WIL-2/27/90) – (0-1, 1.29) – 4 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, BB and 4 K’s
Right-handed relievers
Juan Sosa (CLW-10/11/89) – (0-0, 3.86) 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB and 5 K’s
(21) Colby Shreve (LWD-1/15/88) – (3-5, 3.40, 1 SV) – 2.2 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 0 ER, BB and 3 K’s (loss)
Chase Johnson (LWD-4/29/88) – (4-5, 4.47) 1.2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB and a K
Colton Murray (WIL-4/22/90) – (0-1, 4.50) 0.1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB and 0 K’s
Gabriel Arias (WIL-12/6/89) – (0-0, 0.64) 0.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB and a K
Matt Campbell (WIL-9/10/87) – (0-0, 0.00) 3 IP, 3 H, 0 R, BB and 0 K’s
Left-handed relievers
Tommy Palica (CLW-7/21/87) – (0-0, 11.81) 1 IP, 2 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 3 BB and a K
Jay Johnson (LWD-12/21/89) – (0-1, 2.28) 2.2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB and 3 K’s
Bryan Morgado (WIL-12/8/88) – (0-0, 1.93) 2.1 IP, 2 H, 3 R, 0 ER, 0 BB and 5 K’s
James Birmingham (GCL-8/2/88) – (1-0, 0.84, 6 SV) 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB and 0 K’s (save)
Fabian Cota (GCL-4/13/92) – (1-0, 1.80) 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB and 3 K’s
Phuture Phillies 
Hello from Lowell, MA…still here in the press box as Cody Asche just went yard in the top of the ninth. Three-run homer just tied the game at 4-4!
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Best minor league park in baseball…absolutely LOVED the Spinners stadium when I lived there. Just a fantastic baseball experience.
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Cosart’s probably getting a little tired-either from the innings this year or after the short Futures Game stint. Strikeouts are down, but he’s done more than enough this year. Here’s hoping he just keeps picking up innings and stays injury free
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Also H-Mart went 2-4 with 2 doubles. If he can have a productive rest of the season at Williamsport while maintaining his BB% would the Phils double jump him up to Clearwater next year while moving Franko to Lakewood so they can both get full time 3B reps? I personally would consider him a top 15 prospect going into next season if he can finish this year batting at least .280 with a .400 OBP although he does need to raise his Slugging% as he moves on, his reputation from hs and college before the injury suggest he should be fine there as he settles into pro ball.
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Definately see H-Mart going to Clearwater next yr and have Franco go to Lakewood since he is just 19 and has time to grow.
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Might they instead thinking of moving Martinez up to Lakewood this season? There’s really no reason to have both him and Franco taking turns at 3B, unless they’re really at the exact same level development-wise (which is hard to believe, considering one is an LA signing and the other a three-year college draftee). Maybe one of the Williamsport guys can shed some light on this? Any reason to think Martinez’s excellent plate approach in the NYPL wouldn’t translate to the Sally?
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You guys know I love HMART. It seems reasonable to move both he and Asche to Clearwater next year based on age. Franco may very well prove to be the better prospect but I’m all about age appropriate levels.
I to am a bit miffed that Harold has yet to flash any of the power potential he was touted for. Am hoping the scouting reports on his lack of bat speed being a concern do not manifest to be true.
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Well yeah, Anonymous’s love for Harold Martinez is the stuff of legend around here.
To your point about power, I think the lack of it is what dropped him to the end of the 2nd round, no? But to me, a guy who can play a great 3B and get on base is a pretty valuable commodity, power or not. I mean, the Phillies have a guy like that playing the position for them in the majors right now. So the power would be nice, but I’m more interested to see if he can maintain the plate discipline as he moves up.
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Ah that was me. I keep forgetting to sign in before posting…
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Haven’t seen Biddle’s name in what seems like a while. Have I missed his last start or is something up there?
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You missed it. Biddle is doing quite well. He is a fine prospect.
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His last start was July 9th. 6 innings 1 earned run and 8 strikeouts.
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he’s still battling the walks but he’s doing well.
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Santana’s blast would have won the game and Shreve would have had a win if the Blueclaws had had an error free last half inning. As Murray would have been out of the inning for the Crosscutters. Singleton the only multi-hitter tonight for Clearwater and with a home run. The first pitcher and Sosa were the only ones who pitched well. Cosart probably needed more rest after his great performance in the futures game. He is going to have to take things a year at-a-time and get his pitching strength to be ready to be a starter. I don’t see him moving quickly unless it is as a closer. The diemma is that he needs the innings, but doesn’t seem to have the stamina.
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Shreve seems to have settled into the relief/closer spot really well after a shaky start in the rotation to begin the season. I’ll be very surprised if he’s still in Lakewood at the end of the season.
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Shreve has to be upset that he’s still at Lakewood after the other guy (Lugo) got called up to CWater.
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GCL- Fabian Cota, LHP, pitched the 8th , faced 3 batters all swinging strikeouts, doesn’t say how many pitches.
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I really don’t like that Cosart pitched tonight after pitching on Sunday. He’s already pitched more innings this season than he ever has before—what was the rush? I know he only threw about 10 pitches at the Futures Game but I still think someone messed up on this one.
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He threw 10 pitches 3 days ago! Including an off day yesterday.
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Who is Dustin Cameron?
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I just looked him up. He has been playing in several different Independent Leagues from 2006 up until now. He is 29 so it seems like he is just an organizational filler.
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I like Hyatt’s All-Star line. Home run Singleton! Not liking all the XBH off Cosart, especially in such a short appearance. Like the Martinez doubles and Altherr’s night, along with Morgan’s and Morgado’s strikeouts in Williamsport. From GCL Warner pitched really well and Villalobos had another hit to go with his walk- noticed that he’s struck out only twice so far, which is good. Also glad to see Morelos back in the VSL, even if only for one at-bat.
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When was Morelos not in the VSL? It seems to be he was either injured or benched for a time in favor of Francisco Silva. Did not see something that said he was in another league.
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I think he meant just back playing again.
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Yeah, I meant playing- Morelos had been out of the box score since July 4th.
(Also, GregA, I’m a she, not a he).
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sorry…poor assumption on my part!
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Anyone want to speculate what Cosart’s innings cap is year? He’s at 95.0 now. He pitched 71.1 last year.
The Verducci effect is an innings increase of 30. Is that something to worry about? 30 innings would put him at 101.1 which would be his next start if he pitches well.
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Cosart was shut down for a good portion of last year so, if he’s healthy, he’ll go past the 100 innings. My thoughts are that he won’t go past 6 innings an outing for the rest of the year (unless his pitch count is low). I think he’ll get at least 130 (if healthy).
“Shiver me timbers”, Hewitt has 5 BBs in 11 games in July. He could be hired as the minor league walk instructor.
In the future’s game the announcers talked a bit about the unsung heros of the minor leagues. The coaches and the roving instructors. They talked a lot about these guys working with a pitcher to develop a new pitch or change their motion to get a few more MPH or movement. They talked about raw hitters who get the instruction to be more patient or identify pitches better. We, on this site, often overlook these guys but they deserve all the accolades we can give them. Thanks guys.
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I agree with Bellman on the 130ish number. That should be his cap…probably 130-140 IP total.
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That sounds about right. It might also be a good experience for him if they put him in the bullpen down the stretch, especially if the team is going to the playoffs. Playoff experience would be great, but make him the closer to keep his innings down.
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Also Jarred Cosart was asked on twitter by someone why his k/9 is down and he replied: “Working on staying healthy pitching to contact. They will pick up here as season goes on.” So that probably explains a little bit of it.
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I assume ‘pitching to contact’ translates to lowering the pitch counts, thus more innings?
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This is a very relevant point. Sometimes we all get too focused on stats and forget that the minors are about development.
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Christ Rizzotti nice showing.
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No one wants to mention Josh Warner’s 7 inning, 2 hitter with 6 Ks? Nice outing by the Aussie. I’ve mentioned this before but Cosart’s showing probably had less to do with pitching after the Future’s game as it did with Madson getting the start and 1 inning. It messes up a starter’s routine. There’s also the gawk factor. You tend to watch a guy you admire and not think so much about what you should be doing.
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Verducci effect is 75 IP no?
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No…it’s a 30 IP increase from a previous season.
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To answer my own question, no. Why not keep them in stasis between starts?
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did anyone watch aflac game from 07 harold martinez played short, and showed power, rupp is finally i hope started to hit which would be nice to have a couple of offense catchers. this time of year gets nuts to me cause i fall in love with some prospects and then the trade dealine comes. did anyone see biddle last start what he was throwing his velocity?do you think the amount of innings with the young guys effects there velocity??
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Cosart is sort of in the same spot Knapp was in but Knapp was a clearer position. Knapp answer was to move him up and do shorter appearances. Clearly he needs to cut back then restart in the AFL to get the innings he needs. No way he can do the AFL with his load. Moving up is a loaded question. I ask who has the better pitching coach Clearwater or Reading?
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Galvis, Singleton, Valle, and Cosart are “gotta keep and keep healthy” as far as I am concerned.
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I agree with that list…I’d give up any of the other “top” prospects we have but not those 4.
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Hmmm, I’d have to throw in Biddle with those four.
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I rank May with those 4.
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It’ll be hard to land anyone at all without giving up at least 1 of Biddle, May, Cosart, Singleton, Valle, and Galvis
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No love for Colvin! I’d put him equal to Cosart.
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Replace Galvis with Biddle. Colvin is pretty close to that list himself…
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The reality is that its unlikely that coast, may, and Colvin could all make the big league roster at the same time. Trading one of them is not that crazy but unless you get a big time player who can start for the team for a few more years like Pence, it won’t happen now.
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Villalobos is definitely in the back end of my Top 30 at this point. Only 19, first season really playing organized ball (5 games and 14 PA last year is hardly anything), and is batting .333 with 3 BB and only 2 K in 66 PA (no Ks in July so far). I’d like to see more power and speed, but if he can play SS as his body matures, he can certainly be a Polanco or Starlin Castro type player. Just speculating on him, but he seems like a better bet with most others simply due to that bat control.
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Anybody else notice that Valle allowed 6 SB’s in the game yesterday? I know a lot of that is on the pitcher, but it was off of two different pitchers with a couple of steals of third thrown in there.
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It’s been very quiet on the signings front no? I’m sure Greene gets done but really interested to know if we have a chance to get Quinn.
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Yeah what is up with Green?
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There’s a story on CSNPhilly if you haven’t checked that out yet.
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I think it is time for Jeff Larish and Dane Sardinha to go. Larish isn’t doing what was expected of him and I would rather see Rizzotti move up to Lehigh Valley and maybe let Jim Murphy take Rizzotti’s spot at Reading. And as for Dane Sardinha, he is awful. He was really bad for the Phillies and he is doing much worse in Lehigh Valley. I looked up his stats and he has been consistently batting in the high .100’s or low .200’s for the past few years in the minors. John Suomi just got sent to Lehigh Valley from Cleawater so hopefully that means that Dane is going to get released soon. There is no need for three catchers so I would much rather have a guy like Mike Spidale go up or Kevin Frandsen can just take his spot.
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You realize that Sardinha has the highest OBP of anyone who was on the Phillies MLB roster this season. In addition, it appears that the Phillies pitchers were comfortable pitching to him. Admittedly, he did not block the plate well, but two out of three aint bad.
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For a guy like Sardinha to have his offensive stats in the minors for all of those years in AAA and still find a job pretty much tells that he’s very well thought of defensively. His role in LV is to handle the pitching staff. Suomi has been just as bad during his career offensively at multiple levels so I’m not sure that’s he’s an improvement?
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Anybody have news on Aumont? Hasn’t pitched in 2 weeks.
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Shoulder tendinitis
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Thought I’d share a few other observations from the Cutters game last night here in Mass.
Adam Morgan: Pitched well after giving up the long HR in the second inning. Definitely more of crafty soft-tosser type: fastball was between 87-89, showed some kind of off-speed pitch at 82, and another one in the low 70s.
Bryan Morgado: First two innings were dominant – saw him hit 92 a few times on the fastball, although it looked faster than that in comparison to Morgan. I’m not really sure about the decision to bring Morgado out for a third inning…he got into some trouble and also made a throwing error on a close play at first.
Matt Campbell: Pitched very effectively in his WPT debut: doesn’t light up the radar gun, but has a bit of a funky, 3/4 kind-of delivery that seemed to keep the Lowell bats guessing.
As for the hitters, Altherr had a pretty good game…three stolen bases were really nice to see. Dugan hit the ball hard a couple times, as did Martinez and Franco. Asche’s three-run bomb in the 9th had everyone pretty shocked, especially since the Cutters offense to that point had been relatively stale.
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Thanks Jslasher88. Let’s hope those guys can add some velo. Nice to hear Dugan is hitting the ball hard.
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Domingo Santana has been hit by 11 pitches. The old adage of a walk’s as good as a hit should be extended to getting hit is as good as a hit. They must be trying to bust him inside and he doesn’t budge.
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I do believe HBP is something of a skill. Its relative to how close you stand to the plate as well. No shame in taking one on the arm and trotting to first.
Some other notes. A few years ago, I was a big believer in the whole “Verducci 30 innings” thing, but I’ve kind of backed off of that. First, 30 innings is pretty arbitrary. Second, teams have a good idea of the workloads guys are turning in, and they factor in things like number of high stress innings, high pitch count innings, work in side sessions, etc etc. I assume that from here on out, they will watch each of Cosart’s starts carefully and begin to start limiting his pitch counts.
I’ve made the analogy before, and one that I didn’t make up. Starting pitching is like training for a marathon. You don’t wake up one day and decide to run 26.2 miles. Its something you train for. A gradual increase ise is almost assuredly the right path to take, but I don’t know that it’s 30 innings, or 50, or 60. Huge jumps are obviously not a great idea, but 75 innings to 125 innings, for instance, wouldn’t be that crazy, especially if they are monitoring his pitch counts closely and not overtaxing him.
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I actually think there is some movement underway in baseball to begin moving away from the pitch count philosophy and back towards the idea that a pitcher needs to pitch to build up the arm strength and stamina needed. Texas is the most known one with Nolan Ryan taking over the control but the Phillies seem to be another team that is allowing their young pitchers to get more work.
It’s a slow movement and I don’t expect a return to 4-man rotations and 300 Inning seasons but the magic 100 pitch barrier is being broken more and more by younger and younger pitchers.
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Phillies Organization Depth Chart
First base
(3) Jon Singleton (CLW-8/18/91)- (.279) –2 for 4 with a HR (7), RBI (38)
Darin Ruff (CLW-7/28/86) – (.311) 0 for 3 with a BB
Jim Murphy (LWD-9/16/85) – (.282) 0 for 3 with run, RBI (61) and a BB
Pat Murray (WIL/12/24/86) – (.230) 0 for 5 with a K
Matthew Holland (GCL-8/21/87) – (.308) 1 for 3
Enderson Villegas (VSL-1/31/92) – (.262) 1 for 3
Second base
(12) Cesar Hernandez (CLW-5/23/90) – (.258) 1 for 3 with a BB
Fidel Hernandez (CLW-1/18/86) – (.160) 0 for 4 with 2 K’s
Carlos Perdomo (LWD-4/25/90) – (.229) 0 for 3 with a BB
Cody Asche (WIL-6/20/90) – (.217) 1 for 5 with a HR (1), 3 RBI (9) and 2 K’s
Carlos Valenzuela (GCL-9/18/90) – (.328) 0 for 3 with 2 K’s
Jose Mayorga (VSL-8/20/92) – (.269) 0 for 4
Third base
Travis Mattair (LWD-12/21/88) – (.250) 1 for 5 with 2 RBI (15) and 2 K’s
Geancarlo Mendez (LWD/11/17/89) – (.259) 1 for 4 with a K
Maikel Franco (WIL-8/26/92) – (.255) –1 for 5 with a 2B (6), run and a K
Harold Martinez (WIL-5/31/90) – (.269) – 2 for 5 with 2 2B (6), run and a K
Drew Hillman (GCL-5/4/89) – (.341) – 0 for 4 with a K
Trey Ford (GCL-7/25/90) – (.067) 0 for 3
Shortstop
Troy Hanzawa (CLW-9/12/95) – (.211) 1 for 4 with a 2B (11), RBI (26) and 2 K’s
Edgar Duran (LWD-2/10/91) – (.257) 2 for 4 with a run, SB (9) and a BB
Taylor Black (WIL-2/17/89) – (.239) 1 for 5 with 2 K’s
Jair Morelos (VSL-2/2/94) – (.301) – 0 for 1
Francisco Silva (VSL-5/12/91) – (.143) 0 for 2 with a run
Corner outfield
Brian Gump (CLW-6/16/87) – (.229) 0 for 3 with a BB and 3 K’s
D’Arby Myers (CLW-12/9/88) – (.250) 0 for 4 with 2 K’s
(13) Domingo Santana (LWD-8/5/92) – (.266) 2 for 5 with a HR (7), 3 RBI (25), 2 runs, SB (3) and 3 K’s
Anthony Hewitt (LWD-4/27/89) – (.234) 0 for 4 with a run, SB (20), BB and a K
(27) Miguel Alvarez (LWD-8/27/89) –(.273) – 0 for 0 with a run
(15) Aaron Altherr (WIL-1/14/91) – (.297) – 2 for 5 with a run, 3 SB (8) and a K
(28) Kelly Dugan (WIL-9/18/90) –(.283) – 1 for 4 with a BB and a K
Bernardo Solarte (GCL/1/23/92) – (.167) 0 for 3
Jorge Miranda (GCL-5/26/91) – (.069) 0 for 3
Rosmel Fajardo (VSL-7/19/92) – (.233) – 1 for 4 with a SB (7)
Gregorio Machado (VSL-10/28/91) – (.213) 0 for 1 with a K
Centerfield
(18) Jiwan James (CLW-4/11/89) – (.267) – 0 for 2 with a run, BB and a K
Zach Collier (LWD-9/18/90) – (.273) – 1 for 5 with a 2B (17) and 3 K’s
Kyrell Hudson (WIL-16/6/90) – (.255) – 0 for 5 with 2 K’s
Bill Rice (GCL-9/7/88) – (.306) – 2 for 4 with a run and a K
Herlis Rodriguez (VSL-6/10/94) – (.283) – 1 for 4 with a 2B (3) and RBI (14)
Catchers
(6) Sebastian Valle (CLW-7/24/90) – (.323) 1 for 4 with a K
(17) Cameron Rupp (LWD-9/28/88) – (.249) – 1 for 5 with a K
Bob Stumpo (WIL-/17/87) – (.273) 1 for 5 with a K
John Hill (GCL-2/11/89) – (.238) 0 for 3 with 2 K’s
Kevin Quaranto (GCL-5/13/88) – (.250) 0 for 0
Wilson Garcia (VSL-1/11/94) – (.278) 1 for 2 with a BB
Starting Right-handers
(4) Jared Cosart (CLW-5/25/90) – (7-7, 3.51) – 3 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB and 4 K’s (Loss)
Josh Warner (GCL-10/10/92) – (1-1, 5.27) 7 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 Bb and 6 K’s (win)
Left-handed Starters
Ervis Manzanillo (LWD/8/25/91) – (7-4, 4.57) – 3.2 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB and 2 K’s
Adam Morgan (WIL-2/27/90) – (0-1, 1.29) – 4 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, BB and 4 K’s
Right-handed relievers
Juan Sosa (CLW-10/11/89) – (0-0, 3.86) 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB and 5 K’s
(21) Colby Shreve (LWD-1/15/88) – (3-5, 3.40, 1 SV) – 2.2 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 0 ER, BB and 3 K’s (loss)
Chase Johnson (LWD-4/29/88) – (4-5, 4.47) 1.2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB and a K
Colton Murray (WIL-4/22/90) – (0-1, 4.50) 0.1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB and 0 K’s
Gabriel Arias (WIL-12/6/89) – (0-0, 0.64) 0.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB and a K
Matt Campbell (WIL-9/10/87) – (0-0, 0.00) 3 IP, 3 H, 0 R, BB and 0 K’s
Left-handed relievers
Tommy Palica (CLW-7/21/87) – (0-0, 11.81) 1 IP, 2 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 3 BB and a K
Jay Johnson (LWD-12/21/89) – (0-1, 2.28) 2.2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB and 3 K’s
Bryan Morgado (WIL-12/8/88) – (0-0, 1.93) 2.1 IP, 2 H, 3 R, 0 ER, 0 BB and 5 K’s
James Birmingham (GCL-8/2/88) – (1-0, 0.84, 6 SV) 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB and 0 K’s (save)
Fabian Cota (GCL-4/13/92) – (1-0, 1.80) 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB and 3 K’s
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Now that we are into July, Hewitt’s numbers just aren’t very good.
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