34 thoughts on “Phillies Affiliates’ Recap (5/15/2022)”

1. Time to move Lee Hao Yu to Lakewood and demote Casey Martin back to Clearwater?

   1. The Phillies are loathe to demote prospects. If they do that, that’s pretty much a clear signal that you’re not in their plans. So I doubt they will do that. Heck Jonathan Guzman is at Reading and he has a career .584 OPS. But he was considered filler years ago. Martin has a much higher ceiling so you never know when it might click for him. If Lee pushes his way up, somebody else will be losing playing time, likely a player NOT in the Phillies top 30 like DJ Stewart.

      1. Just last season, the Phillies demoted Casey Martin from Jersey Shore to Clearwater (on 7/27/21) 5 weeks after promoting him (on 6/22/21).

         He had a slow start at Clearwater but got hot and was promoted. He earned the demotion by his play at JS and reinforced the decision with continued poor performance when he returned to Clearwater.

         So, the Phillies don’t seem loathe to demote players who “earn” the demotion.

         1. I’m not saying that the Phillies don’t do it, they just don’t want to do it. Since they demoted Casey Martin, he’s likely not in their plans, regardless of his status in the top 30. Martin will need to get red hot in order to be on the radar again. Now that I’ve learned that Martin got demoted, he definitely won’t be blocking Lee.

2. Where is Scott Kingery and how is he playing?

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   2. He’s not playing yet because of last seasons shoulder surgery but he should be ready soon

   3. Steve Potter posted the other day that Kingery homered at the end of an extended spring training game late last week. Sounds like we may see him up north soon.

   4. Yeah, I reported the same HR in Saturday’s Recap. Apparently, some (actually, a lot of) people don’t read the articles, just the comments.

      1. Read the articles and the comments but looking for a synopsis of his progress which the HR is a small part of it. Always appreciate the articles and will continue to in the future. Thx.

3. Ben Brown was a guy with big upside before his injuries and TJ surgery. His outing yesterday is something to get excited about.
   Muzzioti getting to play every day and has his average up to 270. He’s a top notch CF already, if he can become a 300 hitter he’ll have an opportunity.

   1. I genuinely think that Muzziotti would be a better everyday CF in the majors right now than Odubel. Yes, he would have an adjustment period that Girardi despises allowing young players that opportunity, and tends to bench them quickly if they dont produce immediately. But Odubel is just such a loser as a person and a player – I do believe that “negative vibes” guys exist and I think the franchise needs to rid themselves of this dude once and for all. Muzziotti if nothing else will play a great CF and could eventually offer more at the plate as well considering Odubel doesnt walk and doesnt offer anything beyond batting average and one or two homers per month

      1. I can understand hating Odubel outside baseball. What he did was terrible and he paid for it (more than other players I might add).

         But your hatred of him is skewing your ability to see that Odubel is an acceptable baseball player. Herrera has a career WAR of 13.4. Sad to say, but most MLB players won’t even hit that number. Do you know what Schwarber’s career WAR is? 9.1. Muzziotti has a career minor league OPS of .667. He has played a total of 27 minor league games for this year and last year. There is no indication right now that he can hit ML pitching consistently. Not sure why you think Muzziotti can.

         And BTW, not sure if you know this or not, but Familia also has a DV past during his time with the Mets.

         1. Mine is baseball related. Liow baseball intellect.

         2. Yup, the team seems to love mediocre players with DV histories.

            And heres the thing bout Odubel: i could not care less about his career WAR. I care about what he offers now. He did have a decent prime and even made an all star team, but the player he is now is just not good enough to be a MLB every day CF. Hes also just a straight up losing player. I am all for statistics to define a players worth, but there is also the eye test and I do think there is merit to watching a guy for 7 years continuously be a bonehead.

            Take yesterday for example: He comes up with the bases loaded, the team has 4 runs and its very clear that 4 runs vs the dodgers is likely not going to be enough. A walk is a run. And I am not sure about this exact statistic, but i believe he swung at 3 pitches out of the zone, including one of the worst swings youll ever see in your lifetime at the pitch in between his legs and ends up grounding out softly. I’m not upset tha the made an out, I understand most MLB hitters make an out most of the times they come up to hit. But the approach was just infuriating. Just ready for him to not be on this team anymore, and we were so close.

            1. 2 walks all year. Unacceptsble.

            2. I have an “eye test” too. And mine says you should take your comments to any other site that would have you..

               1. Why the hostile reply Jim? I’m not allowed to dislike Odubel?

            3. I’m not a big Odubel fan either and when he struggles, he really struggles. But he’s a better option than anyone else they’ve put in CF, especially with Moniak’s injury.

               As for Muzziotti I am still a believer, but the guy had next no playing time (71 AB’s) the last two years due to Covid and Visa issues. He needs to lay every day in the minors and get some experience.

      2. I second that. But I tell ya, there are a lot of defenders of Odubel within this fanbase from a playing standpoint. I get the numbers, but the buffoonery is sickening and the production is not worth it. He is an embarrassing player that I cannot wait to see gone.

4. If the need arises, the 1st catcher up has to be Austin Wynns. He’s a good 4A guy who has 310 ABs as a Major Leaguer. He has been a good hitter in the majors but he sure can hit AAA pitchers. Donny Sands is hitting well but he must be in the IL right now. He hasn’t played since May 7.

   1. They did a good job stacking back-up catchers. Donny Sands is really, really interesting. He hits a lot, has power and a fantastic on-base percentage. Sands’ defense is a big question mark, but he’s the kind of guy who hangs around and, one day you look up and he’s a contributing major league hitter. We should not undersell him, especially since he’s not that old – he just turned 26 today. Like Darick Hall, he’s not young, but he’s still a prospect. He’s not a 4A guy – yet.

      1. The really good organizations look everywhere for talent and don’t just assume a guy can’t play because he’s a little older or hasn’t had a lot of big league success. Look at the Dodgers. Justin Turner was a failed third-baseman from the Mets (and 28 or 29) when the Dodgers acquired him. Max Muncy was considered a AAAA player – some power, but not enough of a hit tool to make it in the big leagues. Chris Taylor was expected to become a journeyman. The Dodgers saw the upside and let the player dictate his own outcome rather than assuming the player’s ceiling was what they had shown previously. That’s what the team needs to do with a guy like Sands and, to their credit, what they are doing with Camargo right now.

         1. The Phillies did this with Werth too. Back in the day lol. I do think that sometimes this organization is too quick to define roles based on pedigree and not what players offer going forward, so we shall see. Do you think Camargo is really a gem though? I think hes a really really good backup infielder but it still bothers me when he takes away playing time from Bohm/Stott

            1. I never said Camargo is a gem. I said they are letting Camargo play to determine what his own outcome. I think Camargo is going to be a very useful and versatile player – a big upgrade over Torreyes and very useful. But, to their credit, they are letting him play and dictate his future, rather than assuming he can’t play or is a AAAA guy.

               1. Fair. I like him as a much much better Torreyes, just dont want to see Stott missing time for him. Agreed hes a good guy to have on the team. Would love to try to find more diamonds like that.

         2. Sands won’t get that opportunity as long as JT is here (3 more years). Camargo might get that opportunity if the Phillies decline Segura’s option, but with the way Segura is hitting, he should be here next season. Camargo is under arbitration for 1 more year.

            Assuming Bohm stays at 3B and Stott at SS, the only opportunities are CF, 2B, 1B. The rest of the positions are locked in.

            1. Segura’s future with the Phillies will probably depend on what he expects as his AAV.
               I think the Phillies will offer, if they do, a lower AAV from where he is now on this current contract.
               Will depend on him accepting it or moving on.

               1. Even though Segura is already 32, if he ends up with 3.7 WAR again, he’ll get a multi year deal with somebody. Phillies have a $17M team option. I’m a fan of Segura but I don’t want to give him a multi year deal if I don’t have to. I would rather exercise the option (give him $17M at age 33) and then see what happens after.

      2. JT & Stubbs best combo in awhile for us.

   2. Austin Wynns is 31 and a backup. Best case scenario is that some team has an injury and the Phillies trade Wynns for a long shot lottery ticket. However, it’s likely that most AAA teams have a veteran catcher just waiting for an injury so that they can get back to the show. It’s good for Wynns that he’s taken advantage of his playing time. He will likely be next for the Phillies.

      1. Phillies could look to trade him for a lottery ticket prospect….however the Phillies may have given him an opt-out date on his minor league contract.
         Sometimes they are June 1st or July 1st…the players has that option if they are not called up and placed on the 40 by a specific date.

5. Hao yu Lee named Florida State league player of the week.
   He went 10-22, .455 with 2 doubles, 4 Hrs, and 13 rbi’s…
   For May he is 17-41, .405 with 18 rbi

   1. Wow, what a week! Great to see one of our hitters get hot – and a real prospect too!

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