48 thoughts on “Threshers Recap – 4/9/2019”

1. Do we know why Garcia was replaced by Stobbe?
   Good for Viza, still getting outs after getting called up from XST. He might have to stay

2. Today’s transactions (4/10/19): Dylan Cozens traded to Baltimore Orioles for International slot $, opening up 40-man roster slot.
   Phillies OF Roman Quinn activated from 10-day IL

   Phillies transfer RHP Tommy Hunter from 10-day IL to 60-day IL

   Phillies sign RHP Craig Kimbrel to 2 year, $25 million deal

   1. Tongue in cheek??????

   2. I would sign off on all those moves.

      1. But Kimbrel will cost more than 2/$25m.

         1. That’s a wishful thinking type of contract, with taking into consideration the luxury tax threshold,

            3 scenarios I’d love to see them pursue as we approach summer.

            1. MadBum & Will Smith (steep return)

            2. Felipe Vasquez (Steep return)

            3. Archie Bradley (mid range return)

3. Ok so after being slightly critical of Bohm’s start, and his performance last year, he goes 5 for 8. I believe they are all singles? Does anyone find it troubling that he has not hit 1 hr yet for what supposedly an advanced hitter? He is around 150+ plate apprearnces with little power to show, against lower level pitching. I guess I’m “excitable” after watching all these 1st picks over the years.

   1. Oh I find Bohm extremely troubling. Hindsight is 20/20, but a quick glance at Nolan Gorman will cause acid reflux.

      1. Haha Gorman is making it look pretty easy and he’s just age19. Odd that early we were thinking of taking him at 3 and then he falls to 19.

         1. It’s weird how guys drop like that. I still have no idea how Roger Clemens, who was a beast at the U. of Texas, dropped to no. 19 for the Red Sox.

   2. Yeah, I was concerned after his debut last year even though I try not to read too much into short season performance. It was troubling when he was assigned to Lakewood, and now with the lack of power displayed. His bat is not what it was cracked up to be. Hey, maybe he’ll still develop into a masher but he’s not as advanced a hitter as we thought.

   3. I’m just glad that he’s taking walks and making contact. I’m fairly sure the power is there if he’s making contact and laying off pitches outside the zone. For now, that’s just fine. And, yeah, let’s not start on Nolan Gorman – ugh!!

      1. Watch the guy hit, there is zero power in that swing currently. He’s focusing on shortening his swing and making more contact. The power may come later but if it forces him to lengthen his swing, that won’t be good either. For now, he’s making g contact and getting a few hits. It’s a start to build on.

   4. Bohm could be the kid that finally gets Almaraz fired.

      1. When was the last time a Phillies bat prospect was dominating at his level?

         1. Rhys Hoskins, JP Crawford – I am sure there are many others if I bothered to go back and check.

            1. Kingery in Reading.

               1. I think he meant Lakewood.

      2. It’s gotten to the point where its simply comical. “C” is an utter disaster, MM is at best a middling prospect and last year’s “power” hitter hits for zero power. Thank God the big club is doing well and keeping eyes off the dumpster fire that is the organizations current draft/ develop record.

         1. I’d have to look it up, but I’d be willing to be that Moniak has showed more power than Bohm so far. Hope he gets on a roll, but I’m getting a little cynical after watching years of 1st round misses or the Dom Brown& Crawford hype.

      3. Yeah, one way or another, they have to solidify that draft room. They had a golden opportunity. 4 top 10 picks in a row and two in the top 3 and do we have a grade A prospect in the bunch? Not yet. It’s pretty scary.

         1. That is vomit worthy, you can’t miss that many times, even dumb luck lets you hit on one of them!

            Klentak erased a possible miss with the Segura and Realmuto trades.

            Scary how bad they’ve been draft wise, with a huge opportunity missed. They NEED those prospects to supplement the payroll spiked for the veterans. What is even more scary is to think about where this team would be without this offseason FA haul … and the effect of all the Extensions! All that money, and no one to spend it on …

            I will say… I’d expect Bohm to hit a hr in his next 3 games, now that he is getting on a bit of a roll. If he doesn’t, no way he is the organization top prospect. He’ll plummet in the MLB top 30 for us.

            1. As upset as I am about their draft picks, we still need to give Bohm a little time to settle in – certainly a lot, lot more than 3 games. Like 250 ABs before we start drawing sweeping conclusions on this guy.

               1. Catch,

                  I’m not drawing any conclusions on any of the prospects. I will certainly give him his time to develop. That said, I’m commenting on his current progress, which seems to be behind the avg of where he should/we’d like him to be. I’m looking to see some glimpses of his power, and I currently have no examples from his time in the minors so far. I’m not giving up on him, but from past experience of
                  Our high draft picks,
                  I’m going to temper my expectations. I think he has had a fair amount of at bats against low level pitching to start noticing the lack of power so far. Obviously, it’s early, but it is also fair to say he is
                  Behind schedule. I’ll take late than never though 🙂 The organization needs him to rake to beat out a Franco extension.

               2. See my reply below. While he’s not where we hoped he would be, it’s really, really early in the process. But I agree with the comments about our other top 10 picks – Almaraz’s track record is horrible so far with top picks. Horrible – and I don’t see how they are keeping him around.

               3. Catch, that’s fine and you’re right – we need to give Bohm more time. Has Randolph received enough time to show he can’t play a lick? How bout MM?

4. Must be difficult for Tom Eshelman…getting demoted coming off a poor Triple A performance last season and now entering his age25 season.
   I assume he is now on a three month ‘audition’, and has to make the most of it, and also once the new draftees come in late June and players get bumped up in the system, a pitcher or two from CLW may push him out of the organization.

   1. He’s the 7th starter at LHV. He needs an injury or two or a call up above for him to get called up. I wonder how often he’s pitching in XST over the young guys. Probably not too much.

   2. Agreed, that’s brutal. Doesn’t help that he is in the Phillies minor league system either. I’d assume he can be traded for another minor leaguer. He has to be a #5 starter at AAA in a non pitching rich system. Id be surprised if not. He had his success last season, and Needed his cup of coffee to prove himself them.

5. I predict this will be Johnny Almaraz’s last draft with this organization.

   1. Maybe so, but Almarez was brought on after years with Atlanta. That’s fairly good stock. Has he really lost his mojo or are there other extenuating factors in the Phillies’ recent drafts, particularly the 1st rounders? Or other, louder voices that may have overruled him?

   2. Agree, Riles. While it is nice when/if he drafts a 25th round HS pitcher and the kid maxes out at AAA, that is not why he was hired. He was hired to draft impact talent. This guy was given the 10th, 1st, 8th and 3rd pick and what he has done is ridiculous. Hard to believe anybody could defend him with a straight face.

6. What’s the brace or guard that Bohm wheres on his left knee for? I noticed if he gets a walk he takes off his shin guard and something on his left knee but it’s really thin so I wasn’t sure what it even was but he always takes it off with the shin guard. I likely wouldn’t have to ask if Lakewood had radio announcers.

7. I’m trying to wrap my head around how “Bohm was a mistake” is a topic after he gets on base six times in two days. It’s almost as strange as declaring Jan Hernandez and his 40% K-rate worthy of a roster spot with the big club. (Oh, that was yesterday).

   1. Agreed – we are concerned about him because we feel burned by some other picks, but he’s still very early in the process. We need to wait and see.

      1. No. There have been many reports on his overall game which don’t project him as front line major leaguer, let alone a star. Yes, it’s early, and yes many people who should know saw him as a top 10 draft pick last summer. But red flags abound, defensively and offensively. Has his power diminished due to a greater focus on making contact? Maybe so. He has time but the fact that he was assigned very conservatively to Lakewood as opposed to Clearwater says a lot about what his own organization is thinking right now.

         1. And Gorman’s biggest knock was that he was a prep kid. That knocked him down to #19? A prep arm I can see passing on that high. But a 3b bat with that pedigree?

         2. Look, I’m not here to promote or defend him or to shoot him down either. There are things about him that are concerning, it’s very true. That said, he has had precious little playing time and, my view of this is that when a guy is down like this, the media feeding frenzy often begins. Let’s give him time and see what he can do. Sometimes, there’s just an adjustment process with professional ball.

         3. 8mark….I do believe it was his defensive attributes that Bohm was labeled as being questionable….and along with his speed.
            His bat was rated fairly high.

8. Fangraphs’ Kiley McDaniel will be in Clearwater tonight to watch Spencer Howard. Looking forward to his report. McDaniel and Longenhagen are about as astute and indepth on prospects as anyone I have read recently.

9. Scouting report on 4 Lakewood prospects:

   https://blogs.fangraphs.com/prospect-dispatch-hickory-at-lakewood/

   – Bohm: not a good report
   – Garcia: good, not great report
   – Morales: pretty good, but calls him a future reliever
   – Santos: might be the most glowing review of the 4

   1. Sure is a lot of specifics & certainty based on one game

      1. I was going to say the same thing LOL

      2. That’s how scouting works. You see a few games but each time you say what you see.

   2. Garcia/Morales/Santos…really too young to call long term for either of them
      But Bohm…..ouch…tough could see him staying at third with godd enough arm and footwork…..odd and strange…., just last year the pre-draft scouting reports had his bat as plus and glove/field as below average.

      1. The defense for Bohm sounds pretty much like what we’d heard. It’s good that his footwork is solid but a good arm and below average range sounds about right. If he gets bigger it could cause further mobility issues.

         1. Yeah….like Jim reported in February…Bohm was at the Complex in January and the Phillies worked him hard at third, so it may be paying dividends for him.

10. Who is deese Madison Stokes you speak of he’s making his presence known to thee…

    https://gamecocksonline.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=40

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