Clearwater Threshers Recap – 5/15/2018

Clearwater Threshers (16-22) earned an unlikely spli of a double header with Palm Beach, losing 2-1 and winning 11-10.

Game One: Connor Seabold deserved better.  He tossed 6.0 innings, gave up 2 runs on 6 hits, walked one, and struck out four.  Jeff Singer (4.73) pitched a scoreless seventh.  

The Threshers managed just one run of support on Adam Haseley’s RBI single in the third inning.

Seabold kept the Cardinals off balance, changing his velocity and location masterfully.  He throws a fastball, sinker, splitter, change up, and curve ball.  His FB was 89-94 mph, and sat 91-93 mph.  Although he only had 4 strike outs, all four came swinging, and he induced 20 swings and misses on the night.  His 30.3 % S&M rate (20/66 strikes) is the highest I’ve seen by a Threshers’ pitcher this season.  Thirteen misses came on fastballs and one I’m sure was a curve ball.  I don’t know about the other six

Seabold threw 66 strikes in 90 pitches for s 73.3% strike rate, also the highest I’ve seen this season.  And he threw 20 of 25 first pitch strikes, 80%, another highest I’ve seen this year.

  • #3 Adam Haseley: went 1-3 with an RBI
  • #4 Mickey Moniak: went 1-3
  • #8 Arquimedes Gamboa: went 0-3
  • #17 Jose Gomez: went 0-3
  • #28 Connor Seabold (0-3, 4.46): 6.0 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 4 K

Game Two: Adonis Medina looked like anything but a #2 prospect.  He got pushed around for 8 runs on 6 hits and 2 walks in 2.0 innings.  Felix Paulino (4.24) pitched 2.0 innings and gave up a run.  Blake Quinn (3.79) also pitched 2.0 innings and gave up a run.  Will Hibbs (1-0, 3.18) pitched a scoreless seventh and picked up his first win.

Trailing 8-0 after two innings, the Threshers scored 2 runs in the second on Jose Pujols 2-run HR (5).  They closed to within 5 runs with a run in  the third on Adam Haseley’s solo HR (2).  Trailing 10-3 in the fifth, the Threshers started pecking away at the lead again with one run on Haseley’s RBI force out.  They scored 2 more in the sixth on Jose Antequera’s 2-run double.  And won in a walk off with 5 runs in the bottom of the seventh on Antequera’s bases loaded walk, Arquimedes Gamboa’s 3-run triple, and Darick Hall’s sacrifice fly.  (with one-out, the Cardinals issued two intentional walks to Haseley and Austin Listi to get to Hall).

Gamboa had 3 hits.  Moniak, Pujols, Rivas, and Antequera had 2 each.

Listi and Cabral  drew 2 walks apiece.  Listi was also HBP twice.

Pujols is hitting .297.  Listi .375.  Cabral .33.

  • #1 Sixto Sanchez (2-2 , 3.58): 
  • #2 Adonis Medina (3-2, 6.67): 2.0 IP, 6 H, 8 R, 8 ER, 3 BB, 2 K, game score 6
  • #3 Adam Haseley: went 1-4 with a run scored, HR, 2 RBI, BB
  • #4 Mickey Moniak: went 2-4 with a run scored
  • #8 Arquimedes Gamboa: went 3-5 with a run scored, triple, 3 RBI
  • #17 Jose Gomez: DNP
  • #21 McKenzie Mills (0-2, 5.00):
  • #28 Connor Seabold (0-3, 4.46):
  • Bailey Falter (3-0, 2.28):

Nick Fanti was charting pitches.  The last indicator that he is going to start.  Should be one of the next two games, but I believe he is the TBD listed as probable for Wednesday morning’s game.

In other action –

Lehigh Valley (20-15) lost to Scranton in a walk off, 4-3.

Drew Anderson made his first star of the season and was perfect for four innings. Anderson gave up a HR, triple, double, and single in the fifth and was lifted with 2 outs and 3 runs across.  The inning might have been forecast in the fourth when the top of the order all lined out the second time they saw Anderson.  

Austin Davis (2.79) stranded the inherited runner and struck out 2 batters in 1.1 innings. Jake Thompson (7.88) struck out 2 in 2.0 innings.  Tom Windle (2-2, 3.93) suffered the loss when he could only get 2 outs in the ninth and gave up a single and 3 walks to force in the winning run.

Lehigh scored 2 runs in the fourth and one in the fifth to open up a 3-0- lead on Mitch Walding’s solo HR (6), Joey Meneses’ RBI single, and Collin Cowgill’s sacrifice fly.

The IronPigs struck out 12 times.  Walding (.278) and Meneses  (.347) had 2 hits each.

  • #10 Seranthony Dominguez (1-0, 0.00): promoted to Philadelphia 5/7/2018
  • #12 Enyel De Los Santos (4-0, 0.84):
  • #13 Tom Eshelman (1-3, 6.87):
  • #14 Roman Quinn (.289): added to the 7-day DL, right middle finger strain
  • #16 Dylan Cozens (.250): went 1-4
  • #22 Drew Anderson (0-0, 5.79): 4.2 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 0 BB, 3 K
  • #23 Cole Irvin (3-1, 3.21):

Reading (13-21) lost to Portland 8-4 in the first game of a double header, and had the second game suspended after they took a 9-7 lead in the ninth inning (the second extra inning) of the second game.

Game One: Jerad Eickhoff made a rehab start and gave up 3 runs (2 ER) on 5 hits and 1 walk in 3.1 innings.  He struck out three.  Ranfi Casimiro (0-1, 21.60) got lit in his first AA appearance – 1.2 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 2 K.  Tim Berry  (10.38) gave up a run on 2 hits in 2.0 innings.

Reading took the lead in the second with 3 runs on Deivi Grullon’s 3-run HR.  They scored a run in the fifth on Brandon Bednar’s solo HR (1).

Grullon and Cornelius Randolph had 2 hits each.

  • #15 Cornelius Randolph (.212): went 2-3 with a run scored

Game Two: Franklyn Kilome pitched 4.0 innings and gave up 7 runs , only 3 were earned.  But, he was also banged around for 8 hits and walked five.  Tyler Viza (5.40) pitched a scoreless fifth inning.  Joey DeNato (0.00) struck out three in 1.2 innings.  Edgar Garcia (0.41) pitched 1.1 scoreless.

The Phils climbed back into the game on the strength of a 7-run sixth inning.  Austin Bossart led off with a HR (2).  Cord Sandberg singled.  Malquin Canelo walked with one out.  Damek Tomscha hit an RBI single.  Zach Green hit a 2-run double.  After a pitching change, an out, and a walk to Cornelius Randolph, Brandon Bednar hit a 3-run HR to tie the score.

The Phils started the second extra inning with Randolph on second base.  With two out, Sandberg hit a 2-run HR to take the lead before the game was suspended.

Sandberg (.280) had the only multi hit game.

Game will be completed tomorrow.

  • #6 JoJo Romero (0-4, 6.38):
  • #7 Franklyn Kilome (1-1, 5.87): 4.0 IP, 8 H, 7 R, 3 ER, 5 BB, 1 K
  • #9 Ranger Suarez (1-1, 4.25): is on the 7-day DL, right hamstring strain
  • #10 Seranthony Dominguez (1-2, 2.08): promoted to Lehigh Valley
  • #15 Cornelius Randolph (.206): went 0-3 with a run scored, BB

Lakewood (20-17) postponed, rain.

  • #5 Jhailyn Ortiz (.158): is on the 7-day DL (shoulder, in Clearwater)
  • #11 Daniel Brito (.209):
  • #20 Spencer Howard (3-2, 2.89):
  • #27 Simon Muzziotti (.293): is on the 7-day DL (hand injury, in Clearwater)
  • #30 Nick Maton (.279):

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

One prospect is in Philadelphia.

  • #11 Seranthony Dominguez: 4.0 of 50 IP, 8 of 45 days with Phillies (6/20)

And these guys are still in Clearwater.

  • #18 Kyle Young: XST
  • #19 Francisco Morales: XST
  • #24 Luis Garcia: XST
  • #25 J.D. Hammer: XST
  • #26 Kevin Gowdy: not expected to pitch this season
  • #29 Jonathan Guzman: XST

XST

Jhailyn Ortiz played 4-5 innings in an intrasquad game.  He went 0-2 and made an over the shoulder,  running catch going into the right center field gap.  

Kyle Young is headed north.  Expect him to show up in the Lakewood rotation this weekend.  Based on when he last pitched, I would guess Saturday or Sunday.  And I’m leaning a lot more toward one day than the other.

Ben Brown and Jhordany Mezquita looked good, as did Jonathan Guzman and Brayan Gonzalez.

2018 XST Roster

2018 Phillies XST schedule.

Phillies GCL schedule.

Transactions

5/15/18–Phillies sent RHP Jerad Eickhoff on a rehab assignment to Reading
5/15/18–Lehigh Valley placed CF Roman Quinn on the 7-day DL retro to 5/13/18. Right middle finger sprain
5/15/18–Reading placed 1B Kyle Martin on the 7-day DL
5/15/18–3B Bradley Haslam assigned to GCL Phillies East
5/14/18–Phillies sent RHP Victor Arano on a rehab assignment to Reading
5/14/18–Phillies optioned RHP Jake Thompson to Lehigh Valley
5/14/18–RHP Ranfi Casimiro assigned to Reading from Lehigh Valley
5/14/18–RHP Jacob Waguespack assigned to Lehigh Valley from Reading
5/14/18–RHP Randy Alcantara assigned to Lakewood from Williamsport
5/14/18–Lakewood placed C Colby Fitch on the 7-day DL retro to 5/10/2018
5/14/18–Phillies signed NDFA Bradley Haslam and assigned him to Williamsport
5/13/18–Lehigh Valley activated Drew Anderson from the 7-day DL
5/13/18–Lehigh Valley placed Matt McBride on the 7-day DL retro to 5/11. Left shin contusion

The rosters and lists are up to date as of 5/15.  I’ve got 326 players in the organization.

 

67 thoughts on “Clearwater Threshers Recap – 5/15/2018

  1. Roman Quinn…added to the DL…oh boy!
    I am wondering if this was the same issue with his right hand from last week?
    Glad to hear Nick Fanti is close to returning and maybe another young promising lefty to add to the mix in Jhordany Mezquita.
    Phillies do have their share now.

    1. Let’s not jump all over Roman Quinn already. He is having a good year and all players get a bump or two a year, it’s a long season, this is nothing out of the ordinary. The Phillies ownership and front office have done a masterful job over the years guiding his development and doing right by him. Kapler and Klentak deserve extra special credit for their great job with him this year.

      1. Larry…por favor….pls reread my post …then tell me again I am jumping all over Roman Quinn?
        I am curious how you discern that the posting to be critical of Quinn?

        1. Romus you being mean to Mr Quinn. not nice. m8. do a nicer new post. Upbeat and postivie. remember we even like tim post.

          1. Not snarky, I thought the oh boy was snarky. This kid is working his butt off to try and stay healthy and one little injury should not send people down this negative path with him. He and the organization are doing everything possible.

            1. Given Quinn’s injury history, I don’t think an “oh boy” is particularly out of line.

            2. Bak – agree with you here. His injury history warrants an “oh boy” with another trip to the DL. Calling a spade a spade on this site has become taboo – it’s a joke. “SHHHHHHHH….. don’t anyone notice that Quinn is hurt b/c that’s just mean and it may hurt someone’s feelings.”

              Roman Quinn played 45 games last year. 77 in 2016 and 58 in 2015. Being disappointed he’s injured – yet again – is not out of line in the least bit. Pointing this out and/ or being disappointed is not “jumping all over” Roman Quinn.

            3. Larry….my ‘oh boy’ was an exclamation of another saddening misfortune for him ….not a critique. You apparently were not able to see that distinction.

      2. this is why I like roman as a 4th OF. His talents are impactful off the bench with defense and speed late in games and yet he doesn’t experience the wear and tear that it seems his body cant take

    2. I’ve been wondering all off season why Mezquita doesn’t get more attention. It’s really mind blowing. He put up video game numbers last year.
      Anyways, Mezquita and Kyle Young are 2 of the lesser talked about guys that I’m really looking forward to following this year.

      1. Probably because he’s far away, didn’t get a big signing bonus and hasn’t had head turning scouting reports come out. Definitely a guy to watch though.

        1. Apparently he’s on the older side as well. Per Matt Wink he was sitting in the low 90’s last year getting up to 94 with a “promising” CB.
          Here are his numbers tho . . .

          ERA .72
          IP 37.2
          H/9 4.8
          BB% 8.6%
          K% 25.2%
          HR/9 0

  2. Randolph has maybe turned a corner over the past few games. What about Pujols, just under .300 BA, of course the BB% & K% are alarming but he seemed like he had 1 foot out the door last year.

    1. hard to imagine Pujols is only 22. He’s been around forever it seems. obviously , hard to get excited about anything he does as long as his BB and K%s are so worriesome

      1. that being said. I’m happy that he has made progress and is young enough to continue to grow

    2. Eagleye,

      Pujols does seem to be making genuine progress. If he maintains his 341 OBP it will be the best of his career.

      He’s also running a low strike-out streak: just two in the past 19 plate appearances.

  3. I feel like every time I look at a Clearwater recap, Gamboa has a multi-hit game with an XBH. There’s going to be a lot of buzz surrounding this young man by the end of the season.

    1. Yes, Gamboa a bright spot! We need a hitter in our top 30 to do well for our sanity…though many that aren’t on the top 30 list are doing really well, maybe our prospect list is a jinx, or maybe we just aren’t good armchair evaluators 😁

    2. Gamboa is a seriously big time prospect. Doing what he’s doing in high A ball at age 20 is impressive. He seems to have a huge upside.

    1. WOW he must be lifting a lot and eating right. to get up to 230 in two years. nice job

      1. Roccomm.. I know you get a little grumpy living in your mom’s basement but give these kids a chance. Randolph Haseley moniak will all end up being good picks…I hv been to quite a few threshers games this yr and both Haseley and Moniak have hit many balls on the screws while I was there with nothing to show for it. Not sure about Randolph but he did hit 14 home runs last year and everyone was ready to send them to a leper Farm. Kid can’t catch a break from anybody. My prediction is, Haseley and Moniak both finish up .275+ We will see about Randolph but I bet he finishes up north of .250 with 10 to 15 home runs. Time will tell.

        1. I always felt that the success, or failure, of the Moniak pick depended on what we got out of Kevin Gowdy. Picking Moniak allowed the Phillies to overpay Gowdy. In about a year we’ll have a better idea of what we got, and both Moniak and Gowdy are still very young.

        2. What metric are you basing your opinion off of other than trusting your eyes? Which is funny b/c professional scouts who are paid to view these players all say that MM looks utterly lost, can’t hit RH pitching and has shown no improvement whatsoever.

          But your mom’s basement comment was classy and your scouting instincts are clearly better than the professionals, so thanks for the input.

          1. Before posting about someone mom. you should ask if they are alive or dead, my mom is dead so its classless

            1. That fact just makes it even worse. It was a childish and classless remark by someone who had literally nothing to offer the conversation.

  4. Thank you, Jim, for listening and bringing back the daily recap comment section. I, for one, will try to heed your command that we not all harp on the same things and be nicer. I will not ignore my critical voice, but will work to ensure the criticism is not scathing or personal.

    1. agreed
      hopefully any criticism is aimed not at the kids who are giving their best efforts but at the talent evaluators who make decisions. a prospect is what he is. Its not his fault where he was taken in the draft. that’s on the front office.

    2. I did not read nor do I care about the comments in the discussion section. Not turning off the comments on this Recap was a mistake that I will rectify tonight.

      Everyone is entitled to their opinions. That entitlement does not extend to commenting on MY recaps which is a privilege which I have decided to deny. I will continue to exercise my right to NOT allow comments on the Recaps.

      1. Then why are you still here? I get the backlash. Nobody wants to be told they’re not allowed to talk/post. If the farm was flush with high calibre performances, the itch to complain about the poor ones would be that much less. I’m not one to go searching for other sites looking to satisfy my urge to vent or rave. And who’s making a living from the work put into keeping the site running? Those who enjoy Phuture Phillies for what it provides, with or without more threads for comments, will keep visiting. Transient readers/commenters and certainly trolls won’t determine its success. I understand both points of view. I wish Jim would change his mind. I also wish more regular contributors were more inclined to weigh their words and check their attitudes. Either way, who’s doing who a favor here? Cheers!

      2. Hi Jim –

        Please block the IPs of the posters above and let’s move forward as a community. While the discussions have been a staple of my life since the days of James, your recaps and the survival of the website is more important. Thank you again for all of the hard thankless work you’ve done.

  5. Jim…Thank-you for including the comments again!
    For me, it’s definately the “pulse” of this site!
    Negative comments aside…Over the years there have been a LOT of good informative posts on the daily recap comments!

  6. Am I mistaken or hasn’t Roman missed a week already? Is this 7 day DL stint retroactive to some point? I expect to see him in the Majors this year contributing.

    1. The 7-day designation only means that the player must be on the DL for at least 7 days but he can be there for as long as necessary afterwards. Adding him to the DL allows them to replace his spot on the active roster…

      I assume the put him on retroactive to the last time he played..

      1. Yeah I’m pretty sure it was retroactive to the 13th, so he’ll be out a few more days, at least.

  7. I may be playing ignorant here, and I understand it’s only the third week of May, but it doesn’t seem like we’ve had kids that have been consistent year to year. I know stats in the minors don’t mean too much but seems like our bright spots last year are anything but so far.

    That said, I still have faith in this farm/these kids, and it is nice seeing other guys start to get looks as well.

    1. I think a number of our top prospects have had some struggles this year. Fortunately, given the log jam at the top of the system and major leagues with players who need innings and ABs , there is no rush. we can let guys play the entire yr at current level and reevaluate at the end of the year.
      I’m sure the FO is also evaluating the instruction guys are getting at each level

  8. Here’s a question for the group: Moniak is currently slashing .230/.250/.266 but he’s on the upswing. Would the fan base be satisfied with the following line from Moniak this year? Remember it’s his age 20 season, so he’s young for the league:

    .285/.330/.365 with a K rate of 15% and a BB rate of 6%. Let’s say 25+ doubles and a few homers. Good defense in center

    Would that be good? Would it be enough to re-establish him as a top prospect?

    1. Rough math (based on PA and AB from last season as a baseline) tells me he would need to hit .305 the remainder of the season to get to .285. I think that’s conceivable.

      The K/BB rates would be much more challenging. To get to a 15% K rate, he would have to strike out less than 40 times in the remainder of his plate appearances, essentially cutting his Ks in half. The 6 % BB rate would require 31 walks in 509 PA. Through 144 so far this year, he has 3 walks.

      Regardless … if he gets the hit tool going, you’d hope everything else starts to fall in place.

    2. Guess I don’t look at it as a numbers threshold he needs to meet to establish (re-establish) prospect status. Is he showing progress in performance like improving his K rate, raising the walk rate, getting more XBHs, etc.

      If that doesn’t start until July/August and he ends the season be bad numbers it doesn’t really matter as long as the progress is real…

  9. I know Medina had a tough outing yesterday but that has not been the only difficult outing this year. Can any light be shed on the reason for his surprising rocky road ???? Velo ? working on a certain pitch ? etc. ?

  10. Unless I’m mistaken Carlos Correa was the last position player taken out of High School #1 overall. Someone fact check me on that.

    Anyway he was 17 at the time. Today he is 23 with 4 years MLB service time.

    not every draft has a Correa or Harper I know we’ve established that but those are kind of the benchmarks you look for.

  11. Mike Honcho, 3up3kkk, and others —

    Those numbers (“.285/.330/.365 with a K rate of 15% and a BB rate of 6%. Let’s say 25+ doubles and a few homers. Good defense in center”) as a 20 year old in Clearwater are the numbers of . . .

    . . . wait for it . . .

    Carlos Tocci in Clearwater as a 20 year old. [technically, .284/.331.362, with a 13.7% K rate and a 6.1% BB rate, with 26 doubles and 3 homers]

    And none of us thought he projected to more than a 4th or 5th outfielder.

    I hope MM continues his upswing. But, man, have our expectations fallen since the 2016 draft!

    1. Well Tocci at age 22 is in the majors. 🙂
      However, looks like the Rangers are going to max out the Mendoza Line DL stints until they can qualify to keep him under the Rule 5 restrictions for active service time… so he must must remain on the active 25 sans the DL, for a minimum of 90 days.

    2. Difference is potential and projection. Tocci was about 160 pounds dripping wet without the frame to add more bulk/muscle. That’s why I’m not a fan of trying to comp numbers of minor league players. Every player develops at their own pace. For young players, it’s a question of do they have the physical attributes to be a major league player and are they progressing. Trying to scout by numbers, especially on a yearly stat-line basis, doesn’t account for talent and ability.

      Since the NBA had their lottery drawing last night I’ll compare it to the NBA draft. Why don’t teams simply draft the college player with the best stats? They realize that the 6’7” power forward that can overpower/outwork other college players will not survive against higher level completion. The fact that a Carlos Tocci held his own as a 20-year old in High-A didn’t make him a prospect and is meaningless to the development curve for MM.

      We have this same discussion all the time about soft-tossing pitchers that dominate A-ball because they know how to pitch.

    3. Those year-end numbers for MM would excite me because it would represent a significant improvement from the beginning of the year. Bouncing back from a bad start is something you always want to see in a prospect.

      I’d argue with the “none of us thought he projected to be more than a 4th or 5th outfielder” for Tocci from back then (although it’s probably accurate by the time he was in Clearwater). There was a time when Tocci was the one a lot of guys were dreaming on here …

      1. I was one of those who consistently defended Tocci as a young player who deserved to be given the chance based on his age/performance in the minors. However, in the end, he just hasn’t been able to physically progress enough to warrant the continue support.

        To his credit, he did show enough to convince the Rangers to take a rule V flyer on him and he’s still on the roster.

        1. The moment I saw him in person I knew there was essentially zero chance of his growing into a role as anything more than a 5th outfielder. He’s just not physically strong enough to be a guy who can drive the ball in the majors. He makes Doug Glaville look like a muscle man.

  12. Anyone have any scouting reports or updates on Kilome and his poor results so far this season? Are we even allowed to discuss poor results on here anymore or should I just focus on the positives of his outing yesterday and from the season to date?

    1. My opinion after watching him a few times on MILB. Great body, high quality arm, plus fastball and curve, a thrower not a pitcher, with spotty control. He needs a lot more innings and needs to learn how to pitch. Hopefully he eventually puts it together. Until then he is a tease with his arm and size. You can’t give up on an arm and body like he has so you just have to hope he puts it together eventually.

  13. I don’t know who criticized your posts Jim, but they are a-holes. Ignore the trolls. Don’t punish everyone for the actions a few jerks.

    If you kill the comments, the site will die too. The interaction with other readers is the best part.

    1. Couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately, I think we are seeing the beginning of the end of this site. That is a shame. There are many knowledgeable, passionate fans who contribute to this site. I’ve been a full time reader and occasional poster for many years. I come for the dialogue. I think you will see many leave if it becomes just an information only site. Those of us passionate about minor leagues come to discuss the daily activity. As that goes away, so will the site.

      Thank you Jim for your hard work all these years. It seems there is a shelf life for the folks that run this site and we’ve been fortunate to have it for so long.

  14. Of all of the Phillies sites that I follow, this one has the least number of knee-jerk commenters. I learned a long time ago that even if you’re not pleased with a players performance, you still have to respect that the player is busting his ass. Families and friends of the players read these sites, so let’s show a little more class Philly fans.

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