Box Score Recap – 8/1/2017

Jose Taveras won his Lehigh Valley debut,

Reading and Clearwater blew 2-run leads in the final two innings.

Lakewood romped, Austin Listi hit 2 HRs, Darick Hall hit his 20th.

Williamsport came from behind in the seventh, Cole Stobbe hit his 7th HR.

The GCL Phillies beat the GCL Blue Jays, Jake Holmes hit 2 HRs, Quincy Nieporte hit a grand slam.

Lehigh Valley (66-43)  beat Rochester, 3-1.

Jose Taveras got touched for an unearned run in the first inning and shut out the Red Wings for the next five innings.  He pitched into and out of a jam in the third, and retired the side in order in the other four innings.

Edubray Ramos (1.54) made his first appearance since coming off the DL.  He hadn’t pitched in 10 days, and retired the side in order.  Yacksel Rios (1.86) retired the side in order in the eighth.  And, Pat Venditte (3.16) did the same in the ninth, picking up his second save.

Andrew Pullin tied the game with his third home run in the third inning.  The IronPigs broke the tie with two runs in the sixth on Rhys Hoskins SF and Jorge Alfaro’s RBI single.

  • #4: Crawford (.225): went 1-4 with a run scored, 2 K
  • #5: Alfaro (.244): went 2-4 with an RBI (43)
  • #8: Williams (.280):  33 days and 107 PA into the end of prospect status
  • #12: Quinn (.274): 7-Day DL
  • #11: Cozens (.224): went 0-4 with a BB, K
  • #3: Kingery (.294): went  0-4 with 2 K
  • #6: Hoskins (.278): went 0-3 with an RBI (79), K
  • #17: Pinto (5-3, 4.11):
  • #26: Lively (7-2, 2.50): (39 days/42.2 IP w/Phils) 
  • Pullin (.231): went 1-4 with a run scored, HR 3), RBI
  • Eflin: (1-3, 4.10):
  • #29: Eshelman: (7-2, 2.14): 7-Day DL
  • Leibrandt: (4-0, 1.91):
  • Therrien: (0-0, 1.57): promoted to Philadelphia
  • Taveras (1-0, 0.00): 6.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 3 K, 8 K

Reading (57-49)  lost to Harrisburg, 8-7.

Jake Waguespack made his AA debut and gave up 4 runs on 9 hits in four innings.  The bullpen struggled to keep the Phils in the game until Victor Arano blew the save and took the loss with 2 unearned runs.  He also allowed an inherited runner to score.

Reading scored 3 runs in the third on Malquin Canelo’s 2-run HR (4) and an error.  They scored 2 in the fourth on RBI singles by Canelo and Carlos Tocci.  And they scored 2 more in the sixth on RBI singles byy Harold Martinez and Tocci.

  • #20: El. Garcia: Restricted List,  80-Game suspension was over after game #87.
  • #23: Anderson (7-4, 3.76): promoted to Phillies
  • #27: Arano (0-1, 4.07): 1.1 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K
  • #24: Tocci (.309): went 2-3 with 2 RBI (47), 2 BB, K
  • Tromp: (.293): went 1-4 with a double, BB
  • Martin: (.188): went 0-5 with 3 K
  • Walding: (.232): 7-day DL
  • Irvin: (5-1, 3.18):
  • Taveras: (0-1, 3.97): promoted to Lehigh Valley
  • Davis: (3-2, 3.08):
  • DeNato: (5-1, 1.09):
  • Watson: (3-5, 4.46):

Clearwater (58-51)  lost to Fort Myers, 6-4.

This one just got away.  Seranthony Dominguez pitched well enough to win.  A 4-pitch walk to the second batter he faced led to the only run the Miracle would get off him.  His FB sat 95-96 MPH, but he got a few in at 97 and a couple at 98.  The low end of his range included 3 at 94 and 1 at 93 MPH.  Five of his 6 strike outs came on fastballs, but he got about half of his swings and misses on his change up and slider.He only threw a handful of furves, but did manage to get one in for a called strike.  In all, he looked batter than his previous 2 outings.  He only left because he had reached his pitch limit.  He three 79, 48 for strikes (60.1%).  The only worrisome thing was his 9 for 19 first pitch strikes (47.4%).

Blake Quinn gave up a run in two innings, but the Threshers got that back in the bottom of the inning to restore their 2-run lead.

Seth McGarry made his Clearwater debut and needed 31 pitches to navigate thru the 8th inning.  He gave up 3 runs and the lead, but did strike out the side.  Thru the first 26 pitches of the inning, he threw 23 fastballs.  His range was 91-94 MPH, but he pretty much sat 93 for the inning.

It’s a shame because the Threshers displayed some power tonight.  Cornelius Randolph (11) crushed a ball to right center to tie the game in the bottom of the first.  Zach Green provided the first 2-run lead with a 2-run HR (3) in the fourth, bomb deep into the bullpens.  And, Wilson Garcia restored the 2-run lead in the sixth with a laser to right.

Green had a 2-hit night.  Threshers’ pitchers struck out 13 batters.

Harold Arauz will likely be going onto the DL.  He took a line drive off his foot late in the game during his no-hitter.  He stayed in the game (obviously) but was in discomfort afterward.

  • # 9: Kilome (5-4, 2.74):
  • #14: Randolph (.258): went 1-4 with a run scored, HR (11), RBI (44)
  • #18: Romero (2-2, 2.95):
  • #28: Ed. Garcia (3-4, 3.68):
  • Arauz: (4-2. 2.03): 7-Day DL
  • Singer: (5-2, 2.45): promoted to Reading
  • #16: Suarez: (1-2, 2.33):
  • Dominguez: (3-1, 2.49): 5.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 6 K
  • McGarry: (1-1, 1.96): 1.0 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 K

Lakewood (56-52) beat Greensboro, 11-2.

Alejandro Requena made his Lakewood debut and pitched very well.  He held the Grasshoppers to 4 hits in six innings.  He gave up 2 runs but only one was earned.  He walked none and struck out three.  Tyler Hallead and Felix Paulino mopped up with three scoreless innings.

Austin Listi had 4 hits including 2 HRs.  He score 4 times.  Gregori Rivero had 3 hits including a 2-run HR.  David Martinelli and Luke Williams had 2 hits each.

Martinelli had an outfield assist (home).

  • #1: Moniak (.255): went 0-5 with a run scored, RBI
  • #2: Sanchez (5-3, 2.41):
  • #10: Medina (4-7, 3.24):
  • #19: Brito (.235): went 1-5 with an BRI, K
  • Gamboa: (.230): DNP
  • Hall: (.260): went 1-5 with a run scored, HR (20), 2 RBI (76), 2 K
  • Lartigue (.270): 7-Day DL
  • Alastre: (.317) went 0-4 with a run scored, RBI, K
  • Williams: (.227): went 2-5 with a run scored, SB
  • (#9) Zoellner: 7-Day DL
  • (#17) Listi: (.444) went 4-5 with 4 runs scored, double, 2 HR (2), 2 RBI
  • Falter: (5-6, 3.10):
  • #30: Fanti: (7-2, 2.60):
  • Llovera (1-1, 2.05):
  • (#15) Al. Garcia: 7-Day DL (still in Clearwater)
  • (#19) Russ: (0-1, 5.56): 
  • Requena: (9-3, 2.78): 6.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K

Williamsport (22-17)  beat West Virginia, 3-2.

Andrew Brown pitched into the seventh inning allowing 2 runs on 5 hits and a walk.  Randy Alcantara came in to give up an inherited runner and 3 hits while recording 5 outs.  So of course he got the win.  Luis Ramirez earned his 6th save.

The Cutters scored 3 runs in the bottom of the seventh to steal the win on Jhailyn Ortiz’ RBI single and Cole Stobbe’s 2-run HR.

Adam Haseley had 2 hits including a double.

Andrew Brown picked a runner off first base.

Kevin Gowdy and Dalton Guthrie (as well as Lakewood’s Alex Garcia) are still at the Complex in Clearwater.

  • #13: Gowdy: (still in Clearwater)
  • #15: Stobbe: (.192): went 1-3 with a run scored, HR (7), 2 RBI
  • #21: Ortiz: (.306): went 1-3 with a run scored, RBI, K
  • Pickett: (.319): went 1-3 with a K
  • Stephen: (.258): went 0-3 with a K
  • #7: (#1) Haseley: (.272): went 2-4 with a run scored, double
  • (#4) Scheiner: (.250): went 0-4
  • (#6) Guthrie: (still in Clearwater)
  • (#7) Maton: (.273): went 0-4 with a K
  • (#13) Fitch: (.350): 0-4 with 2 K
  • (#17) Listi: (.293): promoted to Lakewood
  • (#22) Mims: (.273): DNP
  • (#25) Azuaje: (.267): went 1-2 with a K, SB
  • Young: (5-0, 1.35):
  • #22: (#2) Howard: (0-1, 6.52):
  • Stewart: (3-1, 3.34):
  • J. Garcia: (3-2, 3.38):
  • Carrasco: (2-0, 2.61):
  • An. Brown: (2-3, 3.38): 6.1 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 1 K
  • (#3) Seabold: (1-0, 0.00):
  • (#10) Brogdon: (1-0, 3.60): 
  • (#12) Parkinson: (0-0, 4.09):
  • (#14) Warren: (0-1. 45.11):
  • (#16) Dohy: (1-0, 2.79):
  • (#18) Jones: (0-2, 5.63): 

GCL Phillies (18-11) beat the GCL Blue Jays, 10-2.

Manuel Silva pitched a solid six innings.  His only blemish was a solo HR in the sixth.  He held the Jays to just the one run on 4 hits and walked none.  He pitched his way out of some early jams.  His FB was 89-92 MPH.  Justin Miller allowed 1 run in two innings.  He looked superb in his first inning, striking out 2 of the batters in the inning.  Sati Santa Cruz pitched a clean ninth.

Jake Holmes reached base 5 times.  He walked in the first, hit a solo HR in the second inning, a 2-run HR in the fourth, hit an infield single in the sixth, and walked in the eighth.  Ben Pelletier had 2 hits.  Quincy Nieporte came to the plate with the bases loaded after Holmes walked in the eighth.  I alerted those near me that a grand slam was about to happen, and sure enough Nieporte made a prophet of me.

Note:  Jake Fox was back in Clearwater.  He was the forgotten Bash Brother last season with a paltry 23 home runs in Reading.  Fox was in his second day as a coach with the GCL Phillies.  Before I realized who he was, I saw him talking to some of the hitters in the dugout.

  • Muzziotti: (.274): DNP
  • Guzman: (.299): went 1-4 with a run scored, BB
  • Pelletier: (.276): went 2-5 with a double
  • Gonzalez: (.260): went 1-4 with a run scored, 2B, RBI, Sac, K
  • Marchan: (.226): went 0-1 
  • Bocio: (.263): DNP
  • (#11) Holmes: (.225): went 3-3 with 3 runs scored, 2 HR (2), 3 RBI, 2 BB, SB
  • (#24) Markham: (.105): went 0-5 with a run scored
  • (#26) Nieporte: (.343): went 1-4 with 2 runs scored, HR (4), 4 RBI, BB
  • (#27) Gurrola: (.306): DNP
  • (#31) Mayer: (.211): went 0-3 with a BB, 2 K
  • (#39) Stewart: (.100): DNP
  • Jimenez: (1-0, 3.10):
  • Rosario: (1-1, 3.60):
  • Silva: (4-0, 3.60): 6.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 4 K
  • Morales: (1-2, 4.58):
  • Sobil: (1-1, 4.24):
  • (#8) Mezquita: (0-0, 0.71):
  • (#5) Lindow: (0-1, 3.00):
  • Kuznetsov: (2-0, 0.00):
  • Carvajal: (2-1, 2.25):
  • Miller: (1-2, 7.15): 2.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 3 K
  • (#21) Hernandez: (0-0, 0.00):
  • (#29) Cummings:
  • (#32) Santa Cruz: (1-1, 5.06): 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K
  • (#33) B. Brown: (0-0, 0.00):

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.


  • 8/1 – Phillies recalled RHP Drew Anderson from Reading Fightin Phils
  • 8/1 – Lehigh Valley IronPigs activated RHP Edubray Ramos from the 7-day DL
  • 8/1 – RHP Jose Taveras assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs from Reading
  • 8/1 – Harold Martinez assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Lehigh Valley
  • 8/1 – Reading Fightin Phils released SS Jorge Flores
  • 8/1 – RHP Seth McGarry assigned to Clearwater Threshers
  • 8/1 – Lakewood BlueClaws placed C Henri Lartigue on the 7-day disabled list
  • 8/1 – Colby Fitch assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport
  • 7/31 – Phillies traded RHP Joaquin Benoit to Pittsburgh Pirates for RHP Seth McGarry
  • 7/31 – RHP Jacob Waguespack assigned to Reading from Clearwater Threshers
  • 7/31 – RHP Rafael Carvajal assigned to Clearwater Threshers from GCL Phillies
  • 7/31 – RF Juan Luis assigned to Williamsport Crosscutters from Lakewood BlueClaws
  • 7/31 – LHP Casey Brown assigned to Lakewood from Williamsport Crosscutters
  • 7/31 – OF Austin Listi assigned to Lakewood from Williamsport Crosscutters
  • 7/31 – LHP Bailey Falter assigned to Williamsport from Lakewood BlueClaws
  • 7/31 – Reading sent LHP Elniery Garcia on a rehab assignment to GCL Phillies
  • 7/30 – Phillies placed RHP Pedro Beato on the 10-day DL. Left hamstring strain
  • 7/30 – Phillies activated LF Hyun Soo Kim
  • 7/30 – Phillies recalled Mark Leiter from Lehigh Valley
  • 7/30 – Alexis Rivero assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs from Reading
  • 7/30 – LHP Garrett Cleavinger assigned to Reading
  • The organization’s rosters are up to date.
  • The organization’s injury list is as up to date as I can make it.
  • The organization’s Rule 5 eligibility list is as accurate as I can make it based on the information I was able to find.

134 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 8/1/2017

  1. Tavares is on his 3rd league this year. Started in A+. Moved to AA for a couple of games and now pitching in Allentown. Nice progression for the 23 yo.

    1. I saw one Blueclaws game last year and JT pitched. At the time there wasnt much talk on him. Now he is at LV. This is very unlike Phils. Whats up?

      1. Looking at his career stat line, he’s always been pretty solid. His WHIP hovers around 1. Learning these number games but 1 is pretty good.

        1. Always have noticed him but he’s been a bit under the radar because of the bigger names. Hoping he can get a shot this season or be a solid trade chip.

  2. McGarry, after my nice welcoming post yesterday, gives up 3 runs in an outing. He’s only given up runs in 6 of his 32 outings this year. He gave up 1 run in 4 games and 2 runs in the 5th but, in his CLW debut, he gives up 3 runs. Oh well, nowhere to go but up.

  3. Jhailyn Ortiz at 1.026 OPS after 108 ABs. 7 homers and 25 rbi. Nice start. With the organization’s OF depth, and that he’s shown remarkable athleticism and mobility for a big boy, would 3b (seriously) be a possible position for him (US!) at some point? We may see him high in some top prospect rankings (outside of PP’s) next summer. He’s only 18 but there’s so much to dream on with this kid. We regrettably passed on the Big Hurt. (What year was that, Romus?) We may have a Frank Thomas with legs in Williamsport.

    1. 8mark…’89.
      And yes….. Ortiz can get in the top 100 by next mid-season if he can continue what he currently is doing thru next season. You are correct…he can be the Big Hurt.

      1. odd fact; Frank Thomas and new hall of famer Jeff Bagwell were born on the same day, 5/27/68. something i noticed as i share that birthdate a year off from them.

      2. Oh my gosh, I love Jhailyn Ortiz, but can we please not compare him to one of the greatest hitters of the last 30 years and perhaps of all-time? He’s in low A ball and he’s a very promising hitter, but right now, that’s it. He’s 5 minor league levels and 3 truly dominant major league seasons away from meriting any such comparison. Sure, we can hope, you can say his minor league stats look similar, but you can’t compare him to the Big Hurt yet, in my opinion.

        1. Can we not dream and hope?
          Isn’t that what the fun is about on this site?
          No one is saying he is the next Frank Thomas….their filight paths at equivalent age levels appear to be similar..

          1. Nope this a philly site no dreaming allowed. we only allow pessimist opinions and you think your smarter than me comments.
            It’s fun to dream !

            1. Sure, dream away, it’s fine by me. I’m just keeping it real here. I’m not comparing kids in short-season A ball to inner ring HOFers. I just can’t go there, but have fun dreaming.

            2. It’s definitely fun to dream, but it’s walking a fine line with comparing players to HoFers. I think it’s fine to say a player reminds you of someone vs a player could be the next someone.

              While Ortiz might have some physical resemblances and skills as Big Hurt, there is a definite career different career trajectory as Thomas was a college draftee and blew through the minors quickly. I’m guessing Ortiz is in Lakewood next year, but hopefully finishes up in CLW.

              Ortiz is definitely gotta be high on the prospect radar now. I’ve heard that he really crushed the ball when he hits it too, and there seems to be some advanced plate discipline. How is his fielding? Does he look like he will stay in RF?


            3. The ball def seems to jump off of his bat . . . it honestly reminds me of how the ball came off of Howards bat, esp when both go the opposite way. You hear this about some players with power but the ball really does sound different coming off of his bat.

  4. Darick Hall with 20 HRs in 89 games… Ryan Howard’s had 19 HRs in 135 games at LKW.

    1. We shouldn’t compare the two (eye roll).
      Hall is intriguing. I hope he continues to mash.

      1. True, but Hall is definitely worth following. I’m not sure Howard really started getting people’s attention until he started crushing the ball at Reading. Howard was a bit higher of a draft pick though, and probably came with higher expectations. (I didn’t follow the Phillies Minor Leagues that much back then so I can’t say for sure)


  5. Phils seem to have begun promoting arms with a greater sense of urgency. Not so much the bats.

  6. Jhailyn Ortiz..I just checked Miguel Cabrara’s age 18 minor league stats to compare them to Ortiz..small sample size,etc..
    for now one can only dream..

    1. That is a good question.
      He was a 3-year college guy vs Ruf as a 4-year guy..the year older age makes a difference….but Ruf had a 32 game spell there of a slash of 330/.443/.548 with 4 HRs..then onto CLW.
      Rizz only had 10 HRS in 102 games at LKW at the same age level…with a slash of
      268/.380/.430….Hall so far is at .260/.326/.514
      …performance wise for a first baseman, he has to be on top of those other three….however, I say the excitement level is at the Howard level…which at that time was not over the top..

  7. Do HBP add into a player’s OBP? Anderson makes his ML debut and Ks the best player in the game last night, and is flying back to Reading this morning. Ramos is being brought back up. Klentak said the next week or so would have moving parts in the pen because of Ramos injury and Pinto not being able to return for 10 days after being sent down.

      1. I will translate Hits ,base on balls .Hit by pitch, / at bats. base on balls. hit by pitch. sacrifice flys. Romus I miss last nights game how did drew look ? his stuff?

    1. I hope that the strikeout of Trout at the end of a difficult inning will not turn out to be the highlight of Anderson’s career.

  8. When it comes to non prospect starters like a Tavares or previously a Kendrick or Buchanon, the Phils will bring them up quicker through the system to fill a need at a level that the player would not have been moved to. Also, Tavares will be 24 in Nov.

  9. It’s time for me to say I was wrong.

    I was down on “C” Randolph since he was drafted; the combination of downgrading his position to LF, little power, and having to rely on a very high hit tool to carry him, was too much for me.

    He has really come on and show that he has respectable power, and could continue to grow into more. Hope he does great!

    1. I was listening to a podcast recently in which a prominent baseball writer (I believe it was Keith Law) said that he talked to scouts who’d seen C in recent weeks and still have the same view of him, despite his recent success: a non-elite bat without a true position. In other words, not a top prospect. But who knows, C could prove them all wrong in time.

    2. Forgiven. Takes a lot to admit when wrong. Not enough of us do it. C is streaky but this latest streak is showing him to be the real deal.

    1. Dmar I look at the big picture if moniak and gowdy don’t make it, maybe one of the others will. if you get a starter out of a draft and a pitcher either starter or relief that’s a nice draft. I am looking at the draft from that year. right now you have 5 good candidates to help our pitching , Romero , Irvin. Bettencourt. Young. hibbs and more really but its early. I Am still super high on Stephen even though he hasn’t had a good year at 19 but love his swing.

      1. No it is always a disappointment when you get to draft first overall and the player doesn’t make it, I don’t care what you say, if MM doesn’t at least make it, it will be a huge disappointment. Especially if one of the college kids drafted later ends up in the Allstar game .

        1. Sad to say, but it’s true – Having a first rounder not make it kinda sucks, having a first overall pick not make it sucks really bad. I think Mickey Mo will be okay. It will definitely take him awhile, but we just need to be patient. (okay, easier said than done)

      1. Injured. It’s been noted on here several times. He will pitch at some point this summer.

        1. I remember hearing he was being held back before the Williamsport season started, but just wondered if there was any new news. I haven’t read an update for sometime now, other than people saying he is hurt and hasn’t pitched and I still don’t know what the mystery injury was. Has that been mentioned?

            1. Also not a good sign out of an 18 year old kid, that doesn’t go away it lingers until it get an associated injury

    2. Yea, Phillies should have looked in to the future to know that’s gowdy would be injured this year.
      I’m not worried about Mickey. He’ll have 10-15 HR next year and hit close to .300

        1. My guess: Lakewood, with Hasely at CLW. Hopefully both get bumped after a good couple months. I originally was thinking they aggressively move Hasely to Reading but that depends on how he finishes out the season.

          1. I think they should ask Moniak to repeat Lakewood. You could then move Moniak and Haseley (who I assume will start in Clearwater) up a level after a couple of months. if they both play well. If Moniak struggles, he can stay in Lakewood for longer.

        2. He’ll get promoted midseason, TG. I hope he proves you wrong. Noticed a certain pitcher had another bad outing. Ouch.

      1. My guess is Gowdy was the back up plan after the braves grabbed the player a lot of people wanted, but I won’t mention his name 3 times for fear he might haunt my email

          1. It’s possible for sure Gowdy was a highly touted kid, I just remember a lot of people saying if the Phillies get X and X it will be awesome and when they got Gowdy it seemed like a consulation prize, not saying he won’t be good, I don’t know just a fan who lives on the west coast.

  10. I’m a little bummed about the performance of our AAA guys individually. Crawford, Coz, Alfaro, Quinn (hurt), have all taken a step back and even Hoskins with an extended slump since he was at .330 earlier this year.

    1. When people were hyped up like crazy last year over some of these guys I said the real test would come in AAA – it’s a much harder league and much less hitter- friendly environments.

      I’m not sure they’ve regressed, as much as they’ve been exposed or have had to adjust and for guys who can’t hit a good breaking pitch or don’t have decent plate adjustment, life in the IL can be brutal.

      That said, Crawford seems to be turning the corner and his plate discipline remains superb, which should allow him to grow over time.

      Cozens is going to need another year at AAA and we will see if he can make the adjustments. People want to write him off now, but he’s still on the younger side and the power and fielding tools are real, so I’m not off of him.

      Quinn is great – but he’s injured. Again. There’s no reason to trade him but we can’t rely on him.

      Hoskins is having his first tough stretch in the minors. It’s not that bad of a thing because the team’s philosophy (and I agree) is that they don’t want a player to struggle for the first time in the majors. He still draws walks and makes contact – I’m concerned but not worried – yet.

      Alfaro – right now he’s not such a good prospect. Sure he has tools galore. So did Dom Brown. If you have poor plate discipline and only an okay hit tool, it’s hard to be a major leaguer. He will probably get promoted and be the back-up next year because they have to promote him, but, until he shows he can perform against better pitching he’s just a back-up catcher with some tools. I think the odds are against him being a first division regular.

      1. Catch, I agree with you on most of this. Not concerned about Crawford and Cozens at all. People forget how young they are. I too would like to see them in AAA another year. Hoskins in LV and Haseley in Williamsport – one little slump and some posters are saying they aren’t really all that good. Hoskins will hit his way out of it as Haseley is starting to do.

        Quinn – might be time to trade him while he’s still considered a good prospect. As you say we can’t rely on him. I said on another thrad he’s a half-year player.

        Alfaro – wouldn’t be surprised if he’s not the catcher that gets traded rather than Rupp. He doesn’t seem to have advanced much this year. I think he’s actually regressed a bit.

        1. Trading both Quinn and Alfaro now is selling really low.
          I assume you meant putting them in a package deal of some sort.

          1. That is what I meant, I think the team needs some impact players and if we can move some duplicates to facilitate trades or acquisitions I’m all for it. I’m not for trading away the farm as we’ve done in the past. It takes too long to restock.

        2. Crawford will be a viable major league starting shortstop – I’m almost positive about that. The question is whether he’ll be just an average regular or an all-star type or something in between. I think he’ll be a slow developing type of player, which is fine, but people need to be patient. Most players don’t show up and turn into stars in a year like Chase Utley and Ryan Howard did. They are the outliers.

          Cozens has power, but he strikes out way too much and his platoon splits are dreadful. If all goes as well as it could, he’ll have a career like Chris Davis but playing a more important defensive position.

  11. On the bright side, some really good pitching prospects are starting to percolate through the system in an impressive way. I’m very high on Seranthony, who I think may now be ahead of Kilome and, if not, it’s close. But there are so many other good young pitchers. I saw part of Taveres’ start last night and this guy is a real horse with a good arm – they didn’t have a speed gun, but it looked like he was throwing pretty hard (low to mid-90s, with lots of FB life). So, here’s a guy with a big arm, good stats, who has climbed 3 levels this year and he’s barely on our radar because we are focused on guys throwing 100 MPH or throwing no-hitters. There’s a LOT of good pitching depth and some of these guys are going to be good major league pitchers.

    1. Thank you catch. In 2015 when they were both in Williamsport I got ridiculed for saying Taveras was more impressive than Kilome. Now I’m happy to see Franklyn is getting better but for three years it’s been more hype than performance. I’ve watched Dominguez pitch quite a few times also (in person, not reading stats) and I agree. He has always been more advanced than Kilome.

    2. Catch,
      “it looked like he was throwing pretty hard (low to mid-90s, with lots of FB life)”.

      I have reported 7 of Taveras starts here at PP this season. Not once did he reach mid 90s. His FB sat 89-91 at the start of the season, ran 90-92 for a couple games, then settled back in at 89-91 up until his promotion. So, I would think mid-90s is a stretch.

      But, he does know how to pitch. He moves the ball around and changes speeds well. In addition to his FB, he throws a CH, SL, CB. He throws his pitches from a motion that looks like he’s slinging the ball. It always surprised me that he was getting as much velocity as he was based on what looks like a low effort delivery.

      He’ll tend to throw a lot of pitches, like last night, but he doesn’t give in to hitters. Taveras was one of the pitchers I enjoyed watching this season. I didn’t miss any of his starts. His competitiveness could carry him to the next level, even without a mid-90s FB.

  12. Williamsport picked up a game on West Virginia (Pirates) last night thanks to Cole Stobbe. Cole hasn’t been as impressive as advertised, but again, he’s another aggressive placement. He’s only 19, a high school draftee in his first full year of pro ball, in a league of mostly 21 and 22 year old college guys. He’s starting to figure it out though and I can see the potential. He’s responding to the challenge.

    Adam Haseley went 2 for 4 with a double and a run scored. He’s “hitting ’em where they ain’t” again. He looked confident last night. No doubt in my mind this kid has a future in MLB. Go see him for yourself and I’m sure you’ll agree.

    Lost a catcher to promotion yesterday. Colby Fitch called up to Lakewood because Henri Lartigue unfortunately was placed on the 7 day. Lartigue was taken in the 7th round last year and Fitch in the 13th round this year. Both are fairly competent for their development level behind the plate. Henri’s bat has been better this year (.270 with 7 HRs) than last. Colby has sort of gone unnoticed, batting .350 with 2 HRs since being assigned to Wmspt on July 4. (He was a late signing).

      1. Yes. He’s 19 years old in his first full year of pro ball. The NyPenn league is 21 and 22 year old college draftees with a dose of 20 and 21 year olds who have been playing several years in the DSL and GCL. Stobbe is a good bit younger with very little pro experience. That’s the definition of an aggressive placement.

  13. Jakob Hernandez has gone stealth. The Hefty Lefty (21st round pick this year) has intrigued me since Johmmy Almaraz selected him. He was K machine in college, and has struck out 5 in 2 innings in the GCL. However, Hernandez hasn’t pitched in three weeks. Jim mentioned he saw the kid at a GCL Phillies game, and Hernandez was in a normal uniform (I think). Hope he makes it back to the mound soon. I was expecting him to get promoted to Williamsport in no time.

    1. Hinkie, I saw him again today at the Complex. I remember Joe Jordan saying in an interview that they weren’t going to overwork the college pitchers. Just get them ready for Instructs and then their off season programs so they are ready for next spring. Perhaps Hernandez falls into this category. This shows his workload over the last 3 years.

      2017 UT-A 13 13 1 3.28 6 1 79.2 29 35 89 .245 10.05
      2016 SCCC 16 13 5 2.33 10 3 89 23 46 159 .175 16.08
      2015 SCCC 18 4 1 4.26 3 2 44.1 21 14 53 .274 10.76

  14. 17 YO Francisco Morales is having his best outing since signing with the Phillies last summer. Today, for the GCL Phillies … 4 IP, 0 R, 0 H, 2 BB, 3 K.

      1. Hinkie…actually the kid would be entering his senior in HS in the states and prepping for the Rule 4 next year. Have to give Sal A tons of credit finding him and getting him signed last year. With Latin pitchers, as is evidenced in the Phillies system, you do not need the $750K plus bonus to unearth proven future MLB pitchers and in some cases the big bonus kids, ie Luie Heredia of the Pirates for one, just do not materialize as hoped.
        I think Morales, if he stays healthy, could be one of those high bonus guys who could turn out special.

            1. Going out on a real skinny limb there, eh? (tic)
              But what say you after a career of 20 innings….Julio Teheran at age 17?

            2. Figured since I’ve never actually seen either of them pitch, I should be good to make the comparison.

          1. I cannot believe you are already comping a 17-year old with only 20 innings pitched in professional baseball to a HoFer! 🙂

  15. Don’t look now, but the Phillies farm system has racked up its fourth no hitter this season. Francisco Morales and Oscar Marcelino combine for the 7 inning no-no in the GCL (game 1 of a DH).

  16. Jose Taveras is similar to Ben Lively. He will be a potential Rule V casualty. Taveras’ overall stuff is fairly average across the board although he is showing good control and an ability to miss bats.

    1. I saw this from Eric L of Fangraphs….from six months ago.

      Jose Taveras, RHP, 1.5 KATOH+ – Taveras had a monster 2016 as a 23-year-old in Low-A, living off of deception and extension rather than stuff. He has three fringe to average pitches in his fastball, change and slider. There’s a chance it all plays up in relief, but scouts to whom I talked prefer him as a sixth-starter type who comes up from Triple-A in the event of injury, essentially a replacement-level arm.

      1. three fringe to average pitches + deception == really sounds like Ben Lively. Between Leiter and Taveras, I prefer to keep Taveras.

        1. Makes sense…
          Taveras could be Rule 5 and Leiter would have to be a FA signing after being DFAed.

          1. Taveras can be the effective Jeanman Gomez role – a pen arm that pitch multiple innings, throw strikes and do spot starts. i thought Klentak will trade Taveras during the deadline.

            1. Perhaps…but Jeanmar never put up the metrics Joes Taveras is currently putting up at the same appropriate minor league levels. Plus I think Jose’s velo maybe a notch or two north of Jeanmar’s.
              But he is what he is….probably for the Phillies a good to have back of the rotation guy…..stand in line.
              With Anderson promoted yesterday for a brief stint…..why not add Jose to the 40 in September and see what he can give you. There should be others ready to come off by then.

            2. The 40-man appears to look tight so there will be interesting decisions to be made on prospects like Taveras, Pullin, Tocci, Ranger, Leibrandt and Rios.

              So far there 2 open spots and 5 more that expected to open (Blanco, Kelly, Kim, Nava, Beato) – so 7 spots to accommodate JPC, Hoskins, Seranthony, Kilome, Arano, Davis — and one of the 6 names i mentioned above. Possible of having some guys DFAs/non tender to happen with Stassi, Rupp, Leiter will top the list.

              There are 2 open spots, not sure why Klentak is still not making roster moves.

            3. Wow …of those 12… Taveras, Pullin, Tocci, Ranger, Leibrandt Rios. JPC, Hoskins, Seranthony, Kilome, Arano, and Davis .right now five will be left unprotected unless culling transactions occur before November?
              Mr Klentak has some juggling to do.

            4. and there’s also Jose Gomez (currently ranked #19 by MLB) – the lone prospect acquired at the deadline eligible for Rule V.

              I think TJ will be moved this winter and one of Galvis and Cesar (most likely Cesar) will be traded before ST.

            5. If they trade Cesar they need to get a very good return. We have been downplaying him here more than we should. Cesar is a very solid player and he’s cheap and under team control for a few years. You don’t just dump a player like Cesar.

            6. @catch – we already agree to disagree on Cesar. And I’ve been on record saying that he is not the future 2B and got beat up for it. Klentak should have traded him last winter and Klentak should try again this season.

              The market will dictate Cesar’s value. If other teams see Cesar the way you and other see him as valuable – then they will pay accordingly. If not, they won’t, it’s just for Klentak to ensure that he is not over(under) valuing Cesar.

          2. Taveras has always been a high K% and low hit % . He’s seems to know how to pitch which the FO likes. He’s past every test so far which is good. Leiter can stick around as A loogy / spot starter.

            1. Tim…….he cannot be a LOOGY (lefty one out guy)…. he will have to be a ROOGY. 🙂

            2. Romus…….. by the strictest definition then is Pat Venditte a Abioogy or do they just refer to him as a Roogy Loogy? I give you 5TU’s for that!

      2. exactly what I saw at his reading start. Max 90FB. If he gets ahead he gets outs with his curve. But behind in the count hitters make hard contact on his fastball. th starter I agree with that analysis

  17. Taveras has had 7 quality starts in his last ten games.
    After going 0-7 to start Rdg, Grullon is 4-8 with 3 xbh.
    Next year in Rdg, Randolph will hit 20 HRs.
    Good to see Haseley get his 2nd wind.

    1. Grullon does get on a hitting streak or two every year, but he has never hit with any consistency. His value to the organization should be as a trade piece.

  18. I hope Appel didn’t have a set back with his rehab and throwing program. According to an article dated July 20th by Matt Breen, Jordan was quoted as saying Appel will be back and pitching pretty soon, and should return to Lehigh Valley sooner rather than later. Then I heard on the 24th of July that he recently started a throwing program. Does anybody know when he’ll be back?

  19. Mickey Mo, Two doubles, 3 RBIs, run scored. Maybe he’s snapped out of his one-for-four 1B funk

    1. Fanti had tough day today.
      just two, not his typical innings.
      Was removed in the fifth……I wonder if he was injured when the ball was hit at him by the Greensboro batter?

  20. Does Bergjans have anything? Seems to get bombed regularly. They must see something in him but he must have whiplash watching balls go over the fence.

    1. How does 3 HR in 68.1 FSL innings and 0 HR in 4.0 AA innings translate to whiplash.

      I don’t know where you came from, but maybe you better go back.

      1. Wasn’t trying to offend but none of his career stats scream future major leaguer to me.

        1. Not you, the guy we both responded to. He looks like he just had an agenda to bash a player for a poor AA debut without any substantive knowledge to support his comment.

          1. I may be looking at the wrong person but he’s giving up close to 3 HR per 9 and over 10 hits per 9 . . .

      2. I see 12 home runs in less than 40 innings as opposed to the zero you are posting. I have no agenda- just enjoy watching Reading compete and he has really struggled.

    1. Does Rhys Hoskins hit 2 home runs in game 4? I would have said 7, but you only need 4 wins to get the championship… anyway, he hit 2 tonight, bringing him up to 26 for the year

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