Box Score Recap – 5/25/2017

Lehigh Valley was outscored early.

Reading was undone by their defense.

Clearwater swept a double header by identical 8-1 scores.

Lakewood was suspended by fog, but only after the umpires allowed the fog to be a factor on the last play.

Lehigh Valley (31-15) lost to Indianapolis, 8-4.

Jake Thompson (2-4, 5.68) had a terrible five innings.  He gave up 8 runs (6 ER) on 13 hits (12 singles and a double) and 2 walks.  Casey Fien and Hoby Milner split four scoreless innings.

The IronPigs scored three runs with two out in the sixth inning on Nick Williams’ RBI single and Jorge Alfaro’s two-run single.  Hector Gomez capped the scoring with a lead off, solo HR (2) in the eighth inning.

Howie Kendrick continued his rehab going 0-1 with a strike out but reached base twice on HBPs and scored a run.  He also played third and committed a throwing error.  He was replaced at the beginning of the seventh by Hector Gomez.

  • #1 Crawford (.175): 0-4 with a K
  • #3 Alfaro (.280): 1-4 with 2 RBI (22). 2 K
  • #4 Williams (.263): 1-4 with a run scored, RBI (20), 2 K
  • #6 Quinn (.268): 0-4 with a BB, 2 K
  • #9 Cozens (.215): 1-4
  • #12 Pivetta (4-0, 1.04): DNP
  • #13 Hoskins (.333): 1-2 with a run scored, double, 2 BB, K
  • #17 Pinto (3-3, 5.66): DNP
  • #20 Appel (2-2, 7.59): DNP
  • #25 Lively (5-1, 2.79): DNP
  • #30 Valentin (.229): 7-day DL

Reading (23-19) completed its 4-game sweep by Trenton, losing 7-2.  The Phils scored 6 runs in the series and were shut out once.

The Phils actually scored first on Jiandido Tromp’s 2-out, 2-run double in the first inning.  They managed just 5 singles after that.

Drew Anderson was the beneficiary of the early lead.  Unfortunately, he was also the victim of two errors in the bottom of the first and gave up 4 runs, 3 of them unearned.  He was also responsible for another run in the fifth inning.  Yacksel Rios (2.30) was charged with allowing an inherited runner to score, but he got a one-out ground ball.  The Phils just didn’t get the inning-ending double play.  Alexis Rivero (3.51) gave up 2 runs in his two innings.

  • #11 Kingery (.291): 2-2 with a run scored, double, and 2 BB, 2 K
  • #18: El. Garcia: Restricted List,  80-Game suspension
  • #22 Anderson (3-2, 5.14): 4.1 IP, 7 H, 5 R, 2 ER, 4 BB, 3 K
  • #23: Arano: 7-Day DL
  • #24 Tocci (.302): 1-4 with a K
  • #28 Canelo (.281): 0-3
  • Pullin (.337): 1-3 with a run scored, BB
  • Tromp (.254): 1-4 with a double, 2 RBI

Clearwater (27-21) swept Florida, 8-1 and 8-1.

Game One: Alberto Tirado (3-3, 4.38) held the Frogs to one run on 8 hits and 2 walks in 5.2 innings.  He struck out five.  Luke Leftwich allowed 3 base runners in the final 1.1 innings but struck out three and picked up his 5th save.

Former major league pitcher Kris Medlin started for the Braves affiliate.  The Threshers broke the scoreless tie with a run in the fifth and broke the game open with 4 in the sixth. Those 5 runs came off Medlin.

Grenny Cumana got the Threshers on the board with a squeeze bunt in the fifth.  In the sixth, Damek Tomscha led off with a HR (6).  Jan Hernandez contributed a 2-run double. Drew Stankiewicz completed the inning’s scoring with an RBI single.  Cornelius Randolph put the game out of reach with a 3-run HR (5) in the seventh.

Randolph was moved down to fifth in the line up.  In addition to his HR, he tripled with one out in the second and was stranded.  He also drew a walk.

  • # 5 Kilome (2-2, 3.63): DNP
  • #10 Randolph (.207): 2-3 with 2 runs scored, a double, HR (5), 3 RBI (24), BB
  • #27 Ed. Garcia (1-0, 3.92): DNP
  • #29 Pujols (.189): DNP

Game Two: Jake Waguespack (2-2, 3.08) got the spot start and pitched five innings.  He allowed a run on 3 hits and walked none.  He struck out five.  Jeff Singer (1.90) pitched two innings of shutout ball for his 10th save.

The Threshers scored half of their eight runs off starter Touki Toussaint.  They nailed the former first round pick for a couple home runs.

Mark Laird had 3 hits and a couple stolen bases (5).  Jose Pujols had 2 doubles and 2 RBI.  Herlis Rodriguez had a home run (6) and 3 RBI.  Austin Bossart added a solo HR (2).

The Threshers opened the scoring with Bossart’s HR in the third.  After the Frogs tied the score in the fourth, the Threshers scored 3 in the fifth on Rodriguez’ 3-run HR.  They got some breathing room with 4 in the seventh on a wild pitch, Pujols 2-run double, and Drew Stankiewicz’ RBI single.

  • # 5 Kilome (2-2, 3.63): DNP
  • #10 Randolph (.201): 0-4 with a K
  • #27 Ed. Garcia (1-0, 3.92): DNP
  • #29 Pujols (.197): 2-4 with a run scored, 2 doubles, 2 RBI (12), 2 K

Lakewood (27-19) suspended due to fog with Lakewood trailing Delmarva 3-2 in the top of the sixth.  A fog-aided double brought home two runs in the sixth.  Then the game was stopped.   On the final play, a soft fly ball into shallow center field dropped harmlessly among five Lakewood fielders per Will DeBoer/Delmarva Shorebirds.

Arquimedes Gamboa returned from the DL and started at short and batted second.

  • #2 Moniak (.285):
  • #7 Sanchez (1-2, 3.70): DNP
  • #16 Medina (1-2, 2.03):
  • #19 Brito (.249):
  • #26 Romero (2-1, 2.20): DNP

Williamsport (0-0) – first game on Monday, June 19th at State College.

  • #8 Gowdy
  • #15 Stobbe
  • #21 Ortiz

GCL Phillies (0-0) – first game on Monday, June 26th v. Yankees West.

DSL Phillies (0-0) – first game on Saturday, June 3rd.

DSL Phillies2 (0-0) – first game on Saturday, June 3rd.

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

Transactions (and paper moves)

  • 5/25 – Phillies activated RHP Jeanmar Gomez from the 10-day disabled list.
  • 5/25 – Phillies optioned Adam Morgan to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 5/25 – Washington Nationals traded C Nick Rickles to Philadelphia Phillies.
  • 5/25 – C Nick Rickles assigned to Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 5/25 – Reading Fightin Phils released C Joel Fisher.
  • 5/25 – Lakewood BlueClaws activated SS Arquimedes Gamboa from the 7-day disabled list.
  • 5/25 – 3B Jose Antequera assigned to Phillies Ext. Spring Training from Lakewood BlueClaws.
  • 5/24 – Phillies sent OF Howie Kendrick on a rehab assignment to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 5/24 – RHP Franklyn Kilome assigned to Phillies Ext. Spring Training from Clearwater Threshers.
  • 5/24 – RHP Blake Quinn assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Phillies Ext. Spring Training.
  • 5/23 – Phillies placed LF Daniel Nava on the 10-day disabled list retroactive to May 21, 2017. Left hamstring strain.
  • 5/23 – Phillies recalled LHP Adam Morgan from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 5/23 – RHP Colton Murray assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 5/23 – Reading Fightin Phils released LHP Mario Hollands.
  • 5/23 – Clearwater Threshers activated LHP Tyler Gilbert from the 7-day disabled list.
  • 5/22 – Lakewood BlueClaws released LHP Zach Morris.
  • 5/22 – LHP Casey Brown assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 5/21 – SS Jonathan Guzman assigned to Clearwater Threshers from DSL Phillies.
  • 5/21 – SS Emmanuel Marrero assigned to Phillies Ext. Spring Training from Clearwater Threshers.
  • 5/21 – Phillies activated RHP Aaron Nola from the 10-day disabled list.
  • 5/21 – Phillies optioned Adam Morgan to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.

68 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 5/25/2017

  1. Ahhh I finally see what’s going on with Crawford . . . Apparently he seems how the big club is playing and figures “I gotta do my best at doing my worst to get a call up, I mean look at Franco and Herrera! I got this!” Man he’s struggling, I didn’t see the great SS that everyone else saw but I sure didn’t see a sub .200 guy.

  2. Williams is doing well lately seems to be getting hits nearly every game recently.

    Kingery with an impressive line 2-2 with 2 BB (*I figure the 2K’s listed next to his name was due to lack of coffee 😛 – also Randolph is listed as have a double and not the triple, but I love this site)

  3. At 31-15, the Iron Pigs seems to be far greater than the sum of their parts. Hoskins is killing it. Alfaro started the season strong but his offensive production has dropped off dramatically. Quinn has had a few mini streaks at the plate but hasn’t been consistent. Cozens has flashes of what he might be a game here and there. Pitching wise, Eshelman has really impressed since only recently being called up. Pivetta has been very good but got called up to the big club for a couple weeks. Odd how it’s been a very successful yet very disjointed season at Lehigh. Somehow they’re winning. Should we be excited? Or do we see a team with only a couple dominant players in a system without any projected future stars? I’m honestly asking because I don’t know.

    1. It’s a great question – I was just thinking similar thoughts today.

      On the whole, I’d give the prospects at Lehigh Valley a B-/C+, which seems weird given their record, but it was and is a stacked team – I fully expected them to play at a .700 level, which they have.

      The reason I grade them this way is because more prospects have disappointed on this team than expected.

      Crawford – seems to be digging out but now has serious questions regarding his future. CONCLUSION: Arrow significantly down.
      Williams – maybe he’s about to break through, but, statistically, he’s basically the same guy he was last year and his stats raise serious, serious questions about whether he can be a major league hitter – those questions remain and have not been answered. CONCLUSION: Arrow still down.
      Quinn – hey, he’s playing and he’s getting better. Has all the tools, now we need to know if he can hit major league pitching. CONCLUSION: Arrow slightly up.
      Cozens – the power translates against better pitching and a more difficult hitting environment but can the hit tool carry him in the majors? Nobody knows, but I think he needs at least a full year in the minors – maybe a little more. CONCLUSION: Arrow even.
      Alfaro – I think there is a major disconnect here. People talk about him like he’s definitely going to be a very good to excellent player. Such players don’t have 150 ABs in the majors with 3 walks. That basically never happens and I don’t know if it’s a problem he can fix even if he has all the other tools. CONCLUSION: Arrow slightly down.
      Hoskins – was promoted to AAA and improved dramatically, which is saying something since he was already very good. He’s not a minor league player anymore and if the Phillies cannot see that he has a higher ceiling than Joseph I strongly question their player evaluation skills. CONCLUSION: Arrow way up.

      More in next post.

    2. I think we should be excited, but then I am an optimist…:) So when we look at most of these guys, this is their 1st full year in AAA. You can make a case that all of them should stay there this year: Quinn – has he played an entire year since the Phil’s drafted him? He needs ABs and a healthy year, but has serious speed. Alfaro – he needs experience catching & calling games and needs to develop a proper approach at the plate, but he has serious power and a serious arm. Cozens – he needs to demonstrate more consistency offensively, but has major power, arm, aggressiveness. JP – he needs to show he can make it in AAA, forget the majors, I look forward to seeing how he responds to this trial. And SS is one of the few areas where the Phil’s are in good shape with Galvis. Williams – is he starting to turn the corner? Remember last year he got destroyed in the 2nd half of the year, and came out horrible this year, but he has super quick hands which can be translatable. Which brings us to Rhys – again this is his 1st year and he has been excellent, but wouldn’t it be better to truly see what we have with ToJo in the hopes we can move him at the deadline for a solid prospect?

      My bottom line is that this game is really hard and as fun as it is to project these guys you never really can know…

  4. you never know what you are going to get with Anderson- that’s 4 of 9 starts he hasnt gone 5.
    noticing Toussaints name there for the Braves- former first round pick now has given up 35 er in 46 innings this year; despite just 47 hits and a 56/15 k/bb.

  5. It would be nice to hear from Joe Jordan on JP. I find it hard to believe JP has all of the sudden lost his ability to get on base. You don’t do what he did at every stop in the minors and then get to AAA as quickly as he did without talent and ability.

    1. He can’t square up the ball on a consistent basis. I would imagine he’s being challenged more at this level.

      1. ^^^ not to say that isn’t a correctable thing. Not giving up on JP, just pointing out a potential cause for the decrease in on base skills. He may also be putting more pressure on himself to hit and could be expanding his zone.

        1. You can look at it another way, perhaps another spin to his situation….if you compare JPC to college prospects….JPC ‘s draft class as a three-year college guy would be this draft next month. And most if not all the drafted position college guys will likely start their pro career in July at the A level it low(short or full) or high.

          1. Crrection….would be a fourth year college guy for him….since ’13 was his senior HS year.

          2. I don’t think you can, simply because JP hit everywhere he went (kind of disappointed in his AA stint but he had a phenomenal strikeout/walk rate) and absolutely hit a wall at AAA. It’s a huge red flag. Even watching him in Spring Training he seemed to roll over on a lot of balls. He works himself into hitters counts but being a disciplined hitter means nothing if you don’t take advantage of those counts. Walks are great but if you’re getting into 3-0, 3-1 counts you should be driving the ball a lot more consistently.

            JP’s always been rated higher because he’s seen as a high floor player. He’s a safe player. I think his upside got a little overrated as he got grouped with the Seager’s, the Lindor’s, the Correa’s, etc of the world.

            JP’s minor league slash line is: .269/.365/.372 .737 ops. If he can settle into his AA slash line as a Major Leaguer: .265/.367/.402 .769 ops, I’ll take that.

            Jimmy Rollins, the greatest shortstop in franchise history only slashed: 264/.324/.418 with a .743 ops at the major league level. Their numbers at the minor league level aren’t all that dissimilar. Jimmy’s minor league slash: .261/.328/.383 .711 ops.

            It’s a matter of making the adjustments. He’s got plenty of time. Galvis isn’t a FA any time soon and has had a decent year.

    2. DMAr….there has been numerous HS drafted prospects that had high expectations and seem to take longer….Buxton, Anderson, Daz Cameron, etc …and like you said yesterday…JPC was the 16th pick in his draft class, not a top ten guy,…..and in the first round, other than Bryant and Judge and 2/3 few in AA/AAA ball…many have stumbled along the way.

      1. Yes Romus but something is going on and at this point in time I’m not interested in guesses. Something happened when he reached AAA what was it.

        Right now he’s struggling more against righties than he is against lefties. He’s never shown to be horrible against lefties but as you would guess he had always crushed RHP.

    3. JP was in a battle of attrition for while now (poor hitting offset by high walks). Eventually pitchers figure out you can’t hit the ball and just start throwing strikes. The concern for JP is the most crucial and basic concept for all ML hitters and that’s the ability to adjust. If you don’t adjust you sell cars if you adjust you & family enjoy financial independence.

  6. JP slash using OPS

    Age 18 2 Leagues -2.1 Age Diff 308/405/805
    Age 19 2 Leagues -3.1 Age Diff 285/375/781
    Age 20 2 Leagues -4.5 Age Diff 288/380/793
    Age 21 2 Leagues – 4.9 Age Diff 250/349/688
    Age 22 1 League -4.7 Age Diff 175/291/511

    1. DMAR and Romus, one thing that MUST happen with JPC is strength and conditioning. The biggest reason Scotty Jetpax is currently our top prospect is that he built up over the off season. I want and need to see Crawford bulk up for his age 23 season or the organization will have failed him and the fans. Smooth as he is out on the field, he’s a wisp of a man physically.

  7. What a disappointment Jake Thompson’s been since his promotion to AAA. Really concerned about how much his stuff’s regressed in the last two years. Was counting on him pitching in the middle of this rotation behind Nola for the next six + years.

    1. Jake Thompson and Alec Asher and Nick Williams . . . It’s kind of a theme. I’m going to let this year play out but I don’t see this trade working out well because I don’t think Alfaro is going to develop into anything more than an average-ish major league catcher – the kind that is on the market almost every year. Let’s put it this way, when the trade was made, if someone told you the Phillies were going to trade an in-his-prime Cole Hamels for a third/fourth starter and an average catcher, you would be livid and rightfully so. I hope I’m wrong, but I think they are in the process of losing that trade. Alfaro is the last hope, but every time he goes 100 ABs and walks once or twice, the likelihood of him becoming a first division regular goes down that much further.

      1. They also gave up a lefty reliever throwing 96-100+ miles/hr and ate salary.

        With Williams & Thompson they went for guys with lower ceilings and close proximity to MLB. Maybe they can salvage a set-up man out of Thompson? In his relief outings this year it seemed that his first inning was clean, then when he came out for a 2nd it went down hill.

        To be fair though, I remember it being reported the Phillies preferred the package Houston offered them but Hamels vetoed the deal. What a shame.

        I still think Alfaro has the chance to be something more. I’d like to see him spend a full year with Stairs next year.

        1. also was listening to a national show this week talking about the Dodgers not being aggressive enough the last few years, and was mentioned they probably win it all in 2015 if they go get Hamels to pair with Greinke and Kershaw, but they wouldnt give up Urias.
          with Hamels blocking Astros trade, and Texas refusing to budge on Mazzara, it may have simply been a choice between the deal that happened and no trade until after the season, and who knows what they would have gotten then.

          i sometimes wonder, with getting close to the majors guys in this deal, and then drafting Nola, was it thinking a rebuild could get moving quicker with a number of those kind of guys, or was it not having confidence in your minor league system to develop younger players?

          1. I agree with that last paragraph. The Nola draft coupled with guys they already had (like JPC), and the money they could spend probably lead them to look for players with closer proximity to the majors. Though I will say even with Alfaro and Williams in AA and relatively close to the majors both were seen as high end prospects with dam high ceilings.

            Until AAA last year Nick Williams hit for a high average and plenty of power at every level with great bat speed. He just seemed to be able to hit anything watching his Texas film. He looked able to play any OF spot with room for growth. Walks have always been an issue and he did strike out around 20% (iirc it was mostly under or at 20% for most of minors time), but didn’t strike out with the near 30% K rate he has had in AAA. Probably takes him a full two years in AAA to really make progress. And if he makes it to the majors I’d expect the power to play, but it could take him a while once up as well. I still think he will make it to the majors. I think he’ll be able to hit enough and hit for power, but the obp won’t be great and he’ll probably be a 25% K rate kind of guy.

            Alfaro was seen as a high risk player. He was injured at the time and also had issues with walks and defense. The power and arm are plus if not plus plus. Strikeouts still an issue, but he’s certainly gotten better behind the plate. I think he will be playing here by the end of the year or to start next year.

            Thompson though was definitely seen as a safer prospect and not a high ceiling guy, but a possible mid rotation starter. That’s certainly a useful thing, but I just didn’t like him that much at the time I wanted another hitter and considering they got Ascher and Ike too I thought they went too pitcher heavy in return with none having a high enough ceiling to justify it. I would have rather had Ortiz over Thompson at the time or another hitter. Also I did want Brinson over Williams. He was a better defender, hit for as much or more in game power, actually took some walks, and making huge progress that year in the Texas system. Really I wanted Brinson and Williams. Figured on of em would turn out alright so why not grab both with Alfaro.

      2. They can keep there thumbs. They cant handle the truth. The trade was a big step backwards for this organization. And anyone who thinks that isnt true really doesnt know baseball. A pitcher, especially a world series mvp and left handed is worth a kings ransom. They got a bunch of back end players. To make a trade and not get back a top prospect is a disgrace. But no matter what this team does people will think its okay. They took bad prospects for a ace. There scouts stink if they okayed this junk.I am not a scout and told you last year Nick Williams isnt anything Thompson is a back end guy. The one player i have never seen is alfaro who might save the trade if he becomes a all star or at least a ruiz type

        1. You are absolutely right and the fact that they threw in Diekman on top of it and took on enough salary to PAY a 3/4th starter adds insult to injury. It’s possible we may end up getting more value from the Papelbon trade than the Hamels trade, which is crazy and infuriating.

          1. It’s way too early to grade the Hamels trade. No there aren’t slam dunk stars in the deal, but if Eickhoff is a #3/4, Alfaro becomes a toolsy .275/.300/.550 guy with 20+ HR pop, and either Williams or Thompson become decent major leaguers, I’ll be happy though not thrilled. That should be within 2-3 yrs to conclude.

            1. *Thompson or Williams providing some value whether they remain Phillies or not, I should clarify.

            2. 8mark…agree on that. Hamels helped get them close in ’15 and last season they were whitewashed in the LDS…now his obliques mau keep him out until the all-star break.
              Jake D…..well his future is questionable and he is 30 now. Hope he can make it back from the colo-rectal surgery.

            3. You say that and at some level it’s true, but at another level, we are now starting to get a much clearer picture of who these players are likely to become. Right now, their projections – with the possible exception of Alfaro, who is still largely in flux – suggest this will not turn out well. So, yes, final grades are not in, but the team is getting a C- on the mid-term grade.

            4. 8mark really. You think a top left hand pitcher with world series experience under contract. Who has been a mvp. is not worth there top prospect, which if i remember they wouldnt give us. So a back end starter and a catcher who i doesnnt walk or play good defense. which we should have know when our scouts looked at him. A pitcher who doesnt have great stuff in thompson would make it okay. I guess i view value different than you and others on here.

            5. What did the Indians get out of the Cliff Lee trade? What did Seattle get out of Cliff Lee to the Rangers

              It’s so rare to win on those trades. I often wonder though could we have got Mazzaro and Alfaro if we agreed to take less. Or Brinson instead of Williams.

            6. Excuse me, but the Indians got Carlos Carrasco – a #2 starter, thus justifying the trade.

            7. And these were very different trades. The beauty of the Hamels trade was that he was mid-contract under what became a very affordable and reasonable deal – on top of that the Phillies gave up Diekman and swallowed the price of a mid-rotation starter when they ate Harrison’s contract – they gave a TON of value. The Phillies gave up a lot more value when they traded Cole Hamels than they did (or the Indians did) when Cliff Lee (who had one year left on his deal remaining).

              Again, I hope I’m wrong about this Hamels trade, but I think there’s a really good chance that, later on, it will be mentioned in the same breath as the Schilling trade (another 5-1 mirage which basically turned about to be Schilling for Vincente Padilla – no thank you) and 2nd Lee trade (poor return – but the real sin was trading him at all, which probably cost them a WS).

            8. DMAR …sometimes they do work…..Expos got Bartolo Colon and Indians got Cliff Lee, Brandon Phillips and Grady Sizemore…….so at times they do work

            9. The Colon trade worked because the Indians didn’t insist on getting “known” commodities. They scouted really well and got a bunch of guys who were in the low minors who the Expos felt they could give up because they were so far away from the majors.

        2. rocco…….try reading some of the Texas fans posting back a ways on the trades…goin ginto their archives if you so are inclined

          Hamels got them close to the promise land in ’15 but they came up short, last year more of the same but not as far as they lost 0-3 in the LDS, and now he is out. with that oblique.
          Jake D…..well his career is in jeopardy after removal of his colon in January. He will be able to function in his daily life..but as a baseball player they remain hopeful but there are some doubts. long term and he is now 30 years old.

          So the trade could be viewed from both sides as a disappointment.

    2. Seems to me the org needs a Pitcher Whisperer. They have some arm talent but it’s not clicking for them.

      1. The Phillies should make a trade with Pittsburgh that includes Ray Searage in return. He’s proven. Desperate times call for thinking outside the box.

        1. Instead of Ray Searage , Spend the money in latin market. Blow it up. Bring in top talent, not a ton of i hope these 40 to 100000 dollars players make it type. You want a freddy galvis or a Xander Bogaerts

          1. rocco…Phillies spent easy top five in MLB history in 2015…Jhailyn Ortiz @ $4.4M

            1. Romus one time. If they would have spent in other years, we could have a lot better talent and team. one year doesnt make them right. They were so short sighted, thought the 08 team would live forever. I read and might be wrong but right now they are a cash cow. so why sign a lot of guys for less money, instead of going after the top guys. they have the money,

            2. rocco…they really started in 2011 withTocci at $800K, then Grullon and Pujols with over half-million, then Encarnation at a million, then Gamboa and Brito at half-million plus apiece. Last year Bray Gonzalez and Francisco Morales at about aprrox. $750/850K apiece
              So they did finally start coming around…..but there was the decade long gap between the two Koreans of 2002 and Tocci in 2011.

            1. Bogaerts went for $410K…little more than Freddy and even Cesar.
              And rocco…..he was scouted on the isle of Aruba…..the Phillies may not have had a scout there at the time in ’09.

            2. I just used one name but why haven’t we blown up the market like the other teams?

  8. I always liked Thompson, but this has been a very difficult year. This is always an issue when the return for a Hamels does not include a top level prospect and gets quanity instead. Not giving up on any of them, but much better talent has been traded in recent seasons than what we got for Cole. Does anyone remember what the rumored Astros return was?

    1. Cole and the Rangers had leverage….Cole turned down the Houston Deal they were on his no trade list

      Did the Jays win on the Halladay trade? It’s very hard to win on those types of deals. We’ll see what Moncada becomes out of the Sale trade as the Whitesox took the approach of 1 really high caliber prospect for a proven Ace.

      1. It also helped the White Sox that the guy in charge of Boston is known to trade away any prospect to increase his chances of winning now. It also helped the Red Sox are freaking stocked with good young talent at every level. Monconda is a great hitting prospect and rarely do you see a guy rated as highly as he is by everyone get moved like that. Normally teams hang onto guys like him. Though I will say Sale is probably a top 5 pitcher or so and is on a very cheap contract considering his talents.

  9. Just another Phillies position player heading the BA Hot Sheet this week after Hoskins did last week

    1. Scott Kingery, 2b, Phillies (23)
    Reading (Eastern)

    Among the best hitters in the Phillies’ system, Kingery has exceeded expectations through the first seven weeks of the season. He clubbed five home runs this week, enough to lead the minor leagues with 14. What’s more, his longballs are split nearly evenly among road stadiums and Reading’s cozy home park. His home run total is not only the most in the minor leagues, but is one shy of Yankees outfielder Aaron Judge for the most in all of baseball, too.

    1. And …

      19. Mickey Moniak, of, Phillies (19)
      Lakewood (South Atlantic)

      The No. 1 overall pick in last year’s draft has had a steady if unspectacular beginning to his first full pro season with low Class A Lakewood. He started to heat up this week with a pair of triples and his first home run of the season. During the week when he put together a 1.283 OPS.

      1. Look i never saw Moniak play. But a high school kid, playing at a ball this early and hitting almost 280 isnt bad. Let him grow into his body and learn. I cant see being up or down at this point. its so early.

        1. Roccom – you’re on a roll today – we almost never agree this much! But I’m with you on this – Moniak is where he should be thus far. He’s doing fine and needs some time to grow and develop.

          1. Yeah he’s quite young for the league and doesn’t look overmatched at all. He’s doing fine and considering the age difference it’s impressive.

        2. Moniak got hit on the hand tonight on his first AB. Insane ump said the ball hit his bat. He finished his AB (K looking) then left the game. Hope he is okay but the trainer looked at him a long time.

  10. Wasn’t Touki Toussaint one of the Braves’ pitchers who shut down Lakewood in the SAL playoffs last year? As I recollect, all three Braves’ pitchers totally dominated the Blue Claws.

  11. Nola will lead the league in giving up homeruns. I really dont like this kid. He has to be perfect to win. cant make a mistake and get away with it. nice job by phillies taking him seventh.

    1. In a Chat room a couple of days ago someone asked about Nola. Response ” he has 1 of the best 2 seamers in the game along with a vg curve. Yes I think he,ll fine. Fangrahs.

  12. Tim he is back of rotation guy at best. Hangs a lot of pitches. I hope i am wrong but i dont see a great or even good pitcher in nola. Romus knows i been saying this about this kid for a while now. and i stand behind what i see, not what fangraph says.

  13. He just came back everybody giving up HR I mean everyone. Every team were team has trouble with the !on ball.

    1. Also it’s not like he’s giving up home runs to pitchers and guys that don’t normally hit for power. Hell the two tonight we’re the 14th and 11th for said players. Like u said he’s been back what 2-3 games let’s give him some more starts.

  14. Encouraging results lately from Nick Williams. Still not walking but the swing seems to be working alright.

  15. Mickey has bruised rt hand but no break. Had similar injury in HS and it took bout a week but was fine.

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