Box Score Recap – 5/17/2017

Lehigh Valley rallied twice to win and extend their winning streak to 12 games.

Reading powered to victory on 4 home runs.

Clearwater managed just four hits yet again in another loss.

Lehigh Valley (26-13) overcame deficits of 4-1 and 8-4 to beat Rochester, 11-8 in 11 innings.

Ricardo Pinto (5.85) gave up all 8 runs in his 3.0 innings although only 4 were earned.  Cesar Ramos (2.22), Casey Fien ((0.00), Pat Venditte (3-0, 0.00), and Pedro Beato (1.86) shutout the Red Wings for 8.0 innings with Venditte getting the win and Beato getting his 11th save.

The IronPigs scored in the first inning on a triple by Roman Quinn and an RBI single by J.P. Crawford.  They tied the game with three runs in the third RBI single by Crawford, a sacrifice fly by Jorge Alfaro, and an RBI ground out by Dyan Cozens.  The IronPigs pulled within one run with three more runs in the fourth on a solo HR by Nick Williams, and a 2-run HR by Quinn.  They finally tied the game on Rhys Hoskins solo HR in the eighth.  The IronPigs scored three runs in the 11th to win the game on Crawford’s RBI single, a throwing error on the play, and an RBI ground out by Alfaro.

The IronPigs had 17 hits including 3 HR.  Pedro Florimon (.349) went 5-5.  Quinn had 4 hits and 4 runs scored.  Crawford had 3 hits and 4 RBI.  Hoskins and Williams had 2 hits each. Hector Gomez (.186) had the only other hit.

Cozens had an outfield assist at home.  The defense turned 3 double plays.

  • #1 Crawford (.183): 3-5 with 2 runs scored, 4 RBI (12), BB, 2 K
  • #3 Alfaro (.289): 0-5 with 2 RBI (19), SF, 3 K
  • #4 Williams (.254): 2-4 with a run scored, HR (3), RBI (13), BB,  K
  • #6 Quinn (.292): 4-6 with 4 runs scored, a triple (2), HR (1), 2 RBI (10), K
  • #9 Cozens (.213): 0-6 with an RBI (31), 4 K
  • #12 Pivetta (2-0, 0.69): called up to Philadelphia
  • #13 Hoskins (.338): 2-5 with a run scored, double, RBI (30)
  • #17 Pinto (3-3, 5.85): 3.0, 9 H, 8 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, 1 HR
  • #20 Appel (2-2, 5.50): DNP
  • #25 Lively (5-1, 3.19): DNP
  • #30 Valentin (.229): 7-day DL

Reading (21-13) beat Erie, 14-4.

John Richy (1-0, 5.59) got the win in his second start of the season, pitching 5.0 innings.  He allowed 3 runs on 5 hits and 1 walk.  He struck out 2 and gave up a 3-run HR.  Four relievers pitched one inning each to preserve the win – Alexis Rivero (2.08) gave up the only run aftr the fifth inning, Yacksel Rios (1.61), Joe DeNato (1.60), and Mario Hollands (3.27).

But the real story in this game was the offensive explosion on the road.  Every starter got at least one hit.  Every starter scored at least one run.  The Phils banged out 9 extra base hits.  And, four different Phils hit home runs.  (I don’t know if any were wind-aided, but there was a 17 MPH wind blowing out to RF.)  The home runs were hit by Scott Kingery (9), Malquin Canelo (1), Mitch Walding (5), and Aaron Brown (2).  Kingery – LF, Canelo RF, Walding – RCF, Brown – RF.

Reading scored first in the third inning on Walding’s solo HR.  They plated 2 more in the fourth on Andrew Pullin’s RBI double and Angelo Mora’s RBI single.  After Erie tied the game in the bottom of the inning, the Phils scored in the sixth, seventh, and eighth innings.

They put 4 on the board in the sixth on a wild pitch, Brown’s 2-run double, and a passed ball.  They scored one in the seventh on Pullin’s sacrifice fly.  And blew the game open with 6 in the eighth on Walding’s 3-run HR, Brown’s solo HR, and Canelo’s 2-run HR.

Kingery had 3 hits.  Carlos Tocci, Pullin, Chace Numata, Kyle Martin, and Brown had 2 hits apiece.  Walding and Brown had 3 RBI each.  Canelo and Pullin had 2 each.

  • #11 Kingery (.286): 3-6 with 2 runs scored, a double, HR (9), RBI (22)
  • #18: El. Garcia: Restricted List,  80-Game suspension
  • #22 Anderson (3-0, 4.67): DNP
  • #23: Arano: 7-Day DL
  • #24 Tocci (.328): 2-5 with 2 runs scored, 2 doubles, 3 K
  • #28 Canelo (.310): 1-4 with 2 runs scored, HR (1), 2 RBI (12), BB, K
  • Pullin (.333): 2-3 with 2 runs scored, double, 2 RBI (27), BB
  • Tromp (.273): DNP

Clearwater (22-18) lost to Fort Myers, 3-1.

Cole Irvin (3-4, 2.14) posted 5.0 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 3 BB, 4 K.  He threw 89 pitches, 60 strikes. His big mistake (only mistake?) was a two-out, three-run home run in the second inning. Most nights, I believe, the light hitting Threshers will have a problem overcoming a lead.

Ranfi Casimiro (4.50) pitched three, one-hit, scoreless innings in relief.

The Threshers took the early lead on Zach Coppola’s (.322) lead off double in the first inning.  He moved to third on a sacrifice by Herlis Rodriguez (.292), and scored on Damek Tomscha’s (.309) ground out.  They managed 5 base runners the rest of the way, 3 singles and 2 walks, one of which was erased on a strike-em-out, throw-em-out double play.

  • # 5 Kilome (2-2, 3.98): DNP
  • #10 Randolph (.190): DNP
  • #27 Ed. Garcia (1-0, 3.45): DNP
  • #29 Pujols (.172): 0-4 with a K

Lakewood (22-17) no game scheduled.

  • #2 Moniak (.270):
  • #7 Sanchez (1-2, 3.70):
  • #16 Medina (1-2, 2.03):
  • #19 Brito (.272):
  • #26 Romero (2-1, 2.11):

Williamsport (0-0) – first game on Monday, June 19th at State College.

  • #8 Gowdy
  • #15 Stobbe
  • #21 Ortiz

GCL Phillies (0-0) – first game on Monday, June 26th v. Yankees West.

DSL Phillies (0-0) – first game on Saturday, June 3rd.

DSL Phillies2 (0-0) – first game on Saturday, June 3rd.

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

Transactions (and paper moves)

  • 5/16 – Reading Fightin Phils activated 3B Harold Martinez from the 7-day DL.
  • 5/16 – Austin Davis assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Clearwater Threshers.
  • 5/16 – Harold Arauz assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Lakewood BlueClaws.
  • 5/16 – Brandon Leibrandt assigned to Williamsport Crosscutters from Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 5/16 – Tyler Hallead assigned to Lakewood BlueClaws from Williamsport Crosscutters.
  • 5/16 – Tom Windle assigned to Williamsport Crosscutters from Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 5/15 – Seranthony Dominguez assigned to Williamsport Crosscutters from Clearwater Threshers
  • 5/15 – Jose Taveras assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Williamsport Crosscutters
  • 5/15 – Lehigh Valley IronPigs released LHP Wander Perez (0-0, 5.63).
  • 5/15 – Phillies optioned Ben Lively to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 5/14 – Phillies recalled Ben Lively from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.

92 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 5/17/2017

  1. How often do you see games scores of 8 and 12 from two AAA opposing pitchers? Pinto had the 8. It may be time to move Pinto down to AA or put in in relief for a while. He’s given up 20 ERs in his last 18 innings. Plus a bunch of unearned runs.

    Crawford is in danger of crossing .300 in OBP. He’s at .299 right now.

  2. I’m worried that Pinto is hurt, he needs a break. JP is having his first hot streak and Quinn is hot too. They’re going to score lots of runs with both both guys hot with the big bats after them. Dream on…. Kingery!

    1. Wow kingery! Could he be a .300 20 hr 40s 35 double kind of guy with plus defense? If so, we may have a difference maker

    2. I love Cesar (and am not necessarily advocating that they trade him), but Kingery’s ceiling is starting to look like that of a perennial all-star; a Dustin Pedroia/Ian Kinsler ceiling. The Ks are a little high, but everything else is rock star material, including the fielding and base running.

      1. That’s ok, Catch. You can say it. As soon as Kingery is ready for the show, Cesar is moved. Maybe next year’s trade deadline. Jetpax could be ready by then.

        Prediction – Herrera will be traded this upcoming deadline. Destination – AL team like Angels (he’d replace Revere), Rangers (Daniels wants him back) or Astros.

        1. Unless Herrera gets red hot, I don’t see them trading him at the deadline – even if they decide to part ways, they will want to trade him when his value is higher, which means probably waiting for his stats to bounce up over a full year.

        2. 8mark…I say trade both Cesar and Kingery…and lets make room for Brito! 🙂
          Oh…I may be putting the cart before the horse alittle?

    3. I’m not worried he will make a very good high leverage reliever, eventually some of the glut 4 /5 type starters are gonna have to make the switch and if you look at the big team it can’t happen soon enough

    1. Alfaro’s bar offensive is much lower than Cozens based on position. I expect Cozens will always be a big strikeout guy. Question is if he can do enough damage when he hits the ball to offset..

      1. Agreed on both.

        With Cozens, he will always strikeout a lot. The question is whether he can hit for just high enough average (.230-.240 and draw enough walks to make his overall offensive game good enough to survive at the major league level.

        And while I agree with you entirely that the offensive bar for Alfaro is much lower, I’m also really concerned about his lack of walks. Alfaro has all the physical tools in the world to be a first division catcher, both offensively and defensively. But his lack of walks is so significant that, unless he improves in this area (which I think can be really hard to do – many good players never improve their plate discipline), I’m not sure he can ever be anything more than an average-ish major league catcher. Alfaro has walked twice in about 130 plate appearances. That is a dreadful statistic. Our old friend Larry (who no longer posts here) explained a while back that once a player’s walk rate gets that low (below about 4 or 5% I believe), there is virtually no way that player can be a successful major league player. I think he’s right. And the reason is not just because the player’s OBP will be lower (which of course is true), but because it means that the player is not laying off bad pitches. If you can’t lay off bad pitches, no matter how talented you are, major league pitchers will eat you alive. Just ask Mikael Franco who, for all his struggles, still walks a lot more than Alfaro.

        For the same reason that I am concerned about Alfaro (and Nick Williams too), I am pretty encouraged about Andy Knapp, who is on base all the time and is probably not getting the chance he deserves. Knapp, I think, has a quite a bit of offensive potential. I believe in that bat in the long run. How the Phillies handle the Rupp, Alfaro, Knapp situation is going to tell us a lot about their approach and how well they can scout their own players. We will see.

  3. Has everyone noticed that Quinn has been hitting lately? Now up to 290. Good to see both he and Crawford starting to hit with more frequency.

      1. I’m in Philly today for my daughter’s PhD defense and it feels like I’m walking on the sun. Back home in CT, my son says, it feels like 5 atomic bombs went off. Maybe it feels like hitting weather to some but not to me.

        1. Congratulations. I Have three kids and not one of them wanted to go to college. Lucky they got a good trade. Just would have loved to see at least one of them go to college .

            1. Philly fun part is my brother die young with three kids. I Had to sign for a ton of loans for his kids.

            2. @roccom
              Dam sorry to bring it up. That sounds horrible for all parties involved, but it takes a good person to do what you did.

  4. Dreaming of this August lineup:
    Quinn cf
    Hernandez 2b
    Altherr lf
    Cozens rf
    Hoskins 1b
    Franco 3b
    Alfaro c
    Crawford ss

        1. I like Roman Quinn, but trading a CF who has amassed 8.7 fWAR since 2015 (with an awesome contract, btw) to make room for a guy who is routinely hurt and currently sports a 28 percent K rate at AAA seems a bit much. Hopefully he’s up with the team later this year as a fourth outfielder, and if he makes some noise, then the Phils have a good problem on their hand.

          1. Mike, I understand but my premise is that despite the fWAR (past performance), his value IMO may never be higher than it is now. My perception is that as exciting as he is (that’s in both the positive AND negative sense of the word), the league has already begun to figure him out. He’ll continue to be productive relatively speaking but not the guy we’ve seen his first 2 big league seasons. Just my hunch.

    1. Alfaro probably needs to spend a full year in AAA. His 1% walk rate is not going to work in the major leagues. And it’s not just about the OBP – it’s about his swinging at pitches that are borderline or out of the zone. Until he improves that, major league pitchers will eat him alive, causing strikeouts and weak contact. I’d rather see him stay in AAA, work on his plate discipline and watch Knapp get at bats – he’s way better than he’s been given credit for.

      Hopefully, Crawford is now finally making the needed adjustments. This month he’s back to his 1/1 K to BB ratio – that’s a recipe for his continued success.

      1. Catch when i saw him on tv about three weeks ago He imo seemed to be swinging at anything close. and not attacked it. weird approach imo at that time. Maybe he has changed. They are on this week on channel 59 so hopefully i get to see thim

        1. Yeah, whatever message they have given him about plate discipline hasn’t sunk in or been implemented yet. He’s probably never going to have a 10% walk rate, but he has to improve somewhat to have a fighting chance at hitting in the majors. Like I said, he could probably use a full year in the majors, which is fine, because the catching situation in the majors is already too crowded – this will give them time to sort that out too.

      2. I’d like to see a lot of the AAA guys stick around there all year except maybe Quinn, Hoskins, and Perkins. It would be nice to see Kingery up in Lehigh sometime this year, too.

        As far as the big league, they need to play Knapp a lot more than they are. Let me get this straight about Rupp:

        He’s not hitting
        The pitchers don’t like his pitch calling
        He doesn’t frame so well

        Why is he playing so much, while Knapp is getting fewer than a backup catcher’s usual amount of starts? At least have them split time.

        1. He is hitting. Not throwing out your assessment about defense and pitch calling, but he is hitting. And if you view Knapp as a backup anyway, why not let Rupp play and get his trade value up? Then deal him at the deadline and give Knapp AB’s then with Moore backing him up

          1. .377 babip, 35 so 12 bb 90 ab. His 3 hr are average, and walks are decent. His batting average is not sustainable, and is striking out way too much for his combination of power and defense.

          2. Agree with you 100 percent, except I do not relegate Knapp to back-up status. I think there’s more there. Moore should be a fine back-up. I’m not worried about a back-up catcher – we brought a few guys to ST who would be fine back-ups. Those guys are always floating around.

        2. I understand most of what you are saying, but last year an umpire told Mack that Rupp frames the best of most catchers in the NL.

            1. If an umpire tells you its a strike, it is a strike, ironclad, it is a strike, In the book, strike doesn’t matter what Larry Anderson thinks. Strike!

  5. I really don’t think Alfaro has to hit much, what the Phils need more than anything is a catcher who can call a game. I think this pitching staff’s numbers are really being impacted by that. I don’t like the idea of trying to develop a young staff with catchers who are ineffective in this area.

    1. No sweat with Alfaro if he stays in Lehigh all season. Due to his service time status, he HAS to be on the ’18 opening day roster. Knapp and whoever can hold the fort until then.

  6. As a big Eflin supporter, I was dismayed with yesterday’s game. If his command is not pinpoint, he is at best a number four. Fourteen losses in the last seventeen games is disheartening, for sure. As Yogi said, “Things are getting late early”.

    For you guys on this site, I’m sure most of you are happy with the losses piling up. There is now a great chance that this team loses a hundred games and gets the number one pick in the rule 4 draft next year. I’d rather see them be competitive.

    As for the manager, I think he needs to go. This team is not without talent but is listless and complacent. Everyone says that when (if) the team gets good, then a new manager will be be brought in. Hire him now so he can make changes and grow with the team.

    1. They pick, as it stands now, number three in 2018….and closing fast on the Padres for that number one slot, only one and half games behind.
      I think most want them to be competitive
      But they get the Reds (3), Marlins (3) and four with the Braves coming up next week, so that will get them going.

      1. Quite frankly, Romus, when a team is playing like this one, you could bring in the ’62 Mets (I mean the ones that are still alive) and it wouldn’t matter the way these pitchers are throwing.

    2. I would also prefer to see some good baseball and some wins. I have not seen the great success from their top picks to make 6 months of brutal baseball worth while. Win and worry about the draft later.

    3. If they are going to lose big anyway I would rather do so In The second half of the season with at least most of our young guns. I’m not a fan of Odubel personally and would trade him by the deadline. Hellickson needs to be traded ASAP while his value as high as it can possibly be. A decision must be made at catcher so Alfaro can play. There are a few other minor decisions to make as well. Again…if we are going to contend for 1-1 let’s do it while developing as many prospects as possible.

    4. It’s weird with Eflin. He can clearly bring it, hitting 95 at times. But he’s pitching to contact, and trying to be picture perfect. He’s giving up way too many hits because he’s missing in the middle of the plate. He should be more aggressive and look to strikeout guys more. He has enough fastball for it.

      1. I hate the pitch to contact philosophy. Very, very few pitchers can have great careers pitching to contact. I like the pitch to mitt philosophy.

      2. He has enough fastball, but not enough of anything else. I don’t see a pitch in his arsenal that can be a bat-misser.

        1. that problem didnt just creep up on him. He always lacked swing n miss pitches. But he will battle. Likely #5 starter.

  7. Today is a Phuture Phillies Phollower’s dream. Reading is already up early in Erie. Pigs finish their series in Rochester at 1:35. Clearwater and Lakewood play tonight. The Phuture is NOW!

    1. From AAA to low A, the collective winning % is slightly over .600
      Does anyone know where the Phillies rank among MLB teams?

        1. You’re a wealth of info, Romus. Thanks. Very encouraging, especially the pitching.

          1. Hoskins just hit a grand salami, after falling behind 0-2 and working the count….both he and Cozens with HRs today.

            1. And Appel is giving the 7-run lead back. 2 hit batters, a walk, and a wild pitch in the 4th inning so far

            2. Well, I had Appel as one of my sleepers and, boy, was I wrong. They should try to convert him to a reliever, but, frankly, I think, with his current mind-set, he is going to fail at that too. You need a lot of confidence to make it to the big leagues and succeed – in my opinion, Appel completely lacks confidence and falls apart when things start to go wrong. His fastball is also nothing special – it’s maybe 93 or 94 – decent, but not what it was said to be when he was drafted. I’m not saying he’ll never turn it around, but it’s looking less and less likely. Still, I don’t fault the Phillies too much for this – he was an extra guy in a trade, and a very reasonable gamble, given his prior draft position.

            3. I think with Appel, the Phillies will leave him in the rotation to get his lumps. Then, next season, they’ll tell him that they’re converting him to reliever and he could start getting used to it in the offseason. Same with Pinto.

            4. I thought they need to make a 40-man roster decision on him this winter – if so, my guess is that they will try him as a reliever because, right now, there’s no way you would protect him as a starter.

            5. What Hoskins is doing as a AAA rookie (leading the league in OPS by like 100 points) is staggering. The IL is a hard hitter’s league. This guy looks for all the world as if he is the real deal. I say get TJ hot for a while and flip him at the break. We need to see what we have in Rhys Hoskins and, frankly, there is no reason, except being blocked by another young player, that Hoskins should continue to be in AAA.

            6. If Hoskins continues this way for anther two dozen or so games…no sense in keeping him there at LHV for the whole season. They can put him on the 40 and call him up in mid-June and still save a year arb for him. Since the season started on April 2, 2017, this puts the super two date to be between: May 13 and June 4 Most teams will want to be positive they miss the deadline, so they will probably call prospects in mid to late June to be safe.
              But I guess the bigger question will be, what about Tommy Joseph?

            7. his numbers are getting gawdy. I have to compare his minor league stats to Ryan Howard.

    1. It’s great that Pullin is doing so well. But unfortunately I am gun shy about any big success in Reading.

    2. such difficult guy to peg because that avg & power (this year) are likable. His defense and high strikeout..not so much. I know Matt isn’t all that high on him but he just keeps crushing.

  8. QUESTION: How many pitches was Crawford’s 9th inning AB today? Wow! Must have been close to 20. Lotta foul balls. 2-2 count. Then he legged out an infield single.

  9. Another day another loss. Phillies are nearing the bottom of the barrel. I think Joely needs a trip to LHV. I can see Pivetta exiting after 107 pitches but would 110-113 have made that much of a difference. Joely comes in, gets blasted, and Mackanin keeps him in there? Come on! The man is a poor in game manager.

    1. Hang tough….Reds/Marlin and Braves in another week to 10 days could help the cause.

    2. On the bright side, we’re only a game out in the Beer race. I’m of a mind that I won’t root for my team to lose. If they do like they’ve been, I find consolation. Good times are ahead, just not next week or next month. Regardless of how well we do (or don’t) in the rule 4 draft, MacKlentak will have to deal from the depth and with the dollars. However, nothing much will change between now and late July.

      1. 8 good times are ahead? with what? not a super star player in the minors. No pitching at upper levels. People can wish upon a star .but right now and for the last 4 yrs we have build promises. And you could add two superstars right now and still not be a playoff team. Terrible team. terrible gm. bad manager, Owner with money who is not doing what he should. GET A BASEBALL MAN TO RUN THIS TEAM. PLS. 4 professional teams and they all are bottom feeders.

        1. rocco….are you saying the Philly teams are in the major league aquarium of sports….catfish?

    3. Problem is Joely is our only lefty in big leagues and there does not seem to be much coming

      1. Not that we should be counting on it at this point but Austin Davis may have found something. He’s got the profile of a guy who can move quickly if things have clicked, and there’s no other LH reliever standing in his way.

    4. Phillies were unlucky at beginning…now they are just bad. Either way this was not a playoff team. More importantly is the development: Altherr keeps crushing, Joseph is showing his bat is legit. Hernandez is normalizing but still better than expected. Heck even Franco is showing flashes again. There is alot to like on offense with young players. The pitching is mess which goes goes against Phillies philosophy of developing pitching and buying bats. This organization needs a break in form or a #1 or even #2 starter. Velasquez gives the Phillies move value in a trade as starting pitcher than moving him to pen (assuming he can’t pitch further into games). Phillies need to be active at trade deadline.

  10. I think Crawford is not just unlucky. Today he was 1/4 with a walk. One groundout, 2 pop outs, and a pop single.

    1. we make fun of him …heck phillies even released him. But all I see is pitcher who gets people out. Not huge upside but there is something to be said about pitcher who knows how to pitch.

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