The 2017 Phuture Phillies Top 30 came to a close this week. We ended up ranking the top 40 prospects as the readers here at Phuture Phillies view the organization. Today’s article includes the final day-by-day tally as well as the Top 30 from readers who e-mailed me their rankings early in the polling process.
Final Prospect Rankings –
Reader Poll Reader Mail
- J.P. Crawford J.P. Crawford
- Jorge Alfaro Jorge Alfaro
- Mickey Moniak Mickey Moniak
- Roman Quinn Nick Williams
- Nick Williams Rhys Hoskins
- Franklyn Kilome Franklyn Kilome
- Sixto Sanchez Dylan Cozens
- Rhys Hoskins Sixto Sanchez
- Dylan Cozens Roman Quinn
- “C” Randolph Scott Kingery
- Scott Kingery “C” Randolph
- Kevin Gowdy Jhailyn Ortiz
- Harold Arauz Andrew Knapp
- Andrew Knapp Mark Appel
- Jhailyn Ortiz Nick Pivetta
- Adonis Medina Kevin Gowdy
- Mark Appel Ben Lively
- Nick Pivetta Elniery Garcia
- Ben Lively Alberto Tirado
- Alberto Tirado Adonis Medina
- Elniery Garcia Ricardo Pinto
- Nick Fanti Cole Stobbe
- Cole Stobbe Drew Anderson
- Drew Anderson Jesse Valentin
- Andrew Pullin Thomas Eshelman
- Carlos Tocci Victor Arano
- Ricardo Pinto Andrew Pullin
- Jordan Kurokawa Malquin Canelo
- Thomas Eshelman Carlos Tocci
- Jesse Valentin Cole Irvin
- Jose Pujols
- Bailey Falter
- Victor Arano
- Daniel Brito
- Tyler Viza
- Seranthony Dominguez
- JoJo Romero
- Cole Irvin
- Arquimedes Gamboa
- Deivi Grullon
As you would expect, the rankings are different, though only slightly. But what stands out is some of the similarities. The same 11 prospects are included in the top 11 of both polls. One through three are exactly the same. Ten and eleven are flip-flopped. And, four through nine are shuffled.
Both polls remain similar through the top twenty. If you discard #13 from the daily poll (Arauz), both polls would include the same prospects through number twenty. In fact, if you ignore the anomalies that occurred during the polling process, the polls are very similar. In an organization that many consider to be deep with talent, both polls contain 28 of the same prospects in their top thirty. Pujols and Falter made it into the tail end of the daily poll while Canelo and Irvin did the same in the mail poll.
Now for some numbers.
- Only 5 prospects won by majority vote.
- #1 Crawford had the largest majority victoty with 80.8%.
- #3 Moniak had the second largest with 71.6%.
- #7 Sanchez was third with 55.7%.
- #11 Scott Kingery was fourth with 51.7%.
- #2 Alfaro was fifth with 50.5%.
- The two closest races were decided by a total of 5 votes.
- Lively edged Tirado for # 19 by 2 votes (87-85).
- Kilome edged Sanchez for #6 by 3 votes (117-114).
- The original 20 prospects I included in the poll were all ranked among the top 30.
- The first prospect I added after Poll #1 (Sanchez) was voted in on Poll #7.
- Of the first group I added (Tirado, Brito, Edgar Garcia), only Tirado was ranked in the top 30. Brito was eventually ranked at #34, Garcia went unranked.
- Of the second group (Lively, Pullin, Tocci, Valentin, and Pujols), all were ranked in the top 30 except Pujols who came in at #31.
- Only Arauz was ranked in the top 30 from the third group (Falter, Arano, Viza, Romero, Irvin, Grullon, Arauz, and Canelo). All but Canelo made the top 40.
- Kurokawa and Fanti made it into the top 30 from the fourth group. Dominguez (#36) made the top 40, Stephen and Suarez went unranked.
- Drew Anderson (#24) was the only prospect to make the top 30 from from the fifth group. Luke Williams, Numata, Walding, Martin, and Young were unranked.
- The final group of ten was added after the top 30 was complete. Arquimedes Gamboa was ranked #39. The rest went unranked.
- Nine prospects received write in votes during the final 10 polls.
- 14 of the top 30 were acquired through the draft.
- 7 were signed as international free agents in their teens.
- 9 were acquired through trades.
- The top 30 is a little top heavy with as many as maybe 20 prospects who could be at AA or higher, including no fewer than maybe 12 at AAA.
- In a reversal from previous years, 8 of the top 10 are position players.
- The top 30 contains 15 position players and 15 pitchers.
- Position break down – 2 catchers, 3 middle infielders, 2 corner infielders, 8 outfielders (4 true corners), 13 starting pitchers, and 2 relievers.
- Including players acquired through trades the top 30 includes 20 prospects who came through the draft – 5 first round (or comp), 7 second round, 1 third round, 2 fourth round, 2 fifth round, and 3 below the twentieth round.
Participation in the daily poll was consistent. The highest vote in the top ten was for #2 (394 votes). The highest overall was #22 (403 votes). We received over 300 votes through the first 13 polls. Through the top 30, the lowest voted total was 283 votes. Six polls of the top 30 polls came in below 300 votes. After the top 30, voting for #31-40 dropped off. But, no one knew that we were going to continue past #30. The 234 votes for #31 were the highest, the 123 votes for #33 were the lowest.
9562 votes were cast during the Top 30, 11213 votes through the entire polling process.
The Reader Mail Poll looks like a pretty good representation of the organization. However, I didn’t receive enough votes to make any real observations. Thank you to the SIX readers who took the time to e-mail your rankings to me. A larger number of participants would have lessened the impact of the few anomalies that occurred. The most glaring to me was the one poll that didn’t include Roman Quinn at all. I can only assume that the participant thought Quinn’s call up to the Phillies made him ineligible. A few others that stood out were that Gowdy, Lively, Elniery Garcia, Medina, and Stobbe were also left off of one ballot each. Drew Anderson was left off two.
With only 6 participants, there weren’t enough ballots to override the unusual placement of some prospects. For instance, Valentin was ranked high enough on one ballot to be ranked 24th even though he was only on 2 ballots. More participants would make such instances less likely.
I received several suggestions on how to avoid the ballot stuffing for “favorite sons”. I can’t really find it in my heart to just ignore the conclusions in those polls. While we try to ensure that we are voting for truly deserving prospects, there is no rule against voting for favorites.
The one suggestion that I like was from a long time reader and participant. He suggested that everyone e-mail their Top 30 lists to me. I would then compile the votes and roll out the results from #30 to #1 like some other sites do with their site generated rankings. This would still be a reader poll which is still unique among all prospect sites. It would continue to allow the intelligent, daily discussion that drew me to Phuture Phillies in the first place.
However, I’m afraid that such a process would discourage new and some current readers from participating. I’ve asked for readers to e-mail their top 30 lists the past three years and have received only a few responses – 6 this year, 16 last year, and 11 for the 2015 poll (the first year I ran the poll).
And, let’s face it, some people don’t feel they know enough about the organization to rank a list of 30 prospects. I would venture to guess that some readers rely on the daily discussions to make their decisions on subsequent picks.
This is a reader driven site. Let me know what you think in the comments section below. If you would prefer to remain anonymous, e-mail me at email@example.com with the word POLL in the subject line, and I can introduce your thoughts into the discussion while maintaining your anonymity.