Phuture Phillies 2017 Reader Top 30 Poll for #6

Nick Williams was your selection as the #5 prospect in the Phillies’ organization.  Williams garnered 40% of the votes, another plurality rather than a majority.  Sixto Sanchez finished a distant second with 23%.  Franklyn Kilome (19%) finished  third ahead of a fading field.

Nick Williams came to the Phillies on July 31, 2015 as part of the Cole Hamels trade.  He was drafted by the Texas Rangers out of high school in the second round of the 2012 Amateur Draft.  He was a fast riser in the Rangers organization, reaching AA Frisco in the Texas League as a 20-year old in his third season.  Williams continued to perform well in 2015 in both the Texas League for the Rangers (.299/.357/.479/.836) and the Easter League after being traded to the Phillies (.320/.340/.536/.876).

After a slow start at AAA Lehigh Valley in 2016, Williams settled in and posted a .281/.311/.462/.773 slash through August 6th before a horrid slump during the final 4 weeks of the season lowered his slash to .258/.287/.427/.714.

Williams needs to improve his plate discipline.  His 2016 BB% and K% of 3.6% and 25.8% weren’t to far off his career numbers of 4.9% and 24.7%.  But, they are an area that could stand some improvement.  In spite of his dreadful finish last season, 40.6% of Williams’ base hits went for extra bases.

Hopefully, the last 4 weeks of the 2016 season were an aberration, as they appear to be compared to the rest of his career, and a reunion with Dusty Wathan in Lehigh Valley will bring a return of Williams’ prior performance.

Williams is a left-handed batter.  As expected, his splits are more favorable against RHP.  In fact, only one of his 13 HR came off a lefty last season.

Wiliams split time among all 3 outfield position in AAA.  He committed only 3 errors, 2 in CF and 1 in RF.

After being traded at the deadline, Williams drove 22 hours to Reading and went 2 for 5 in his Fightin’ Phillies debut against Trenton, IN Trenton on August 4th.

Next up is your selection for the #6 prospect in the organization.

Poll to date –

  1. J.P. Crawford
  2. Jorge Alfaro
  3. Mickey Moniak
  4. Roman Quinn
  5. Nick Williams

Don’t forget to visit the poll in 2017 Phuture Phillies Reader Top 30 Poll – Additional Prospects Poll to cast your ballot for the prospects you think should be added to the remaining polls.  Over 3200 votes have been cast so far.  If you’ve already participated, thank you.  The leaders remain Ben Lively, Carlos Tocci, Andrew Pullin, Jose Pujols, and Jesse Valentin.  Lively has by far been listed on the most ballots.  The poll will close Friday night. 

21 thoughts on “Phuture Phillies 2017 Reader Top 30 Poll for #6

  1. Went Sixto. Lack of command and control seem to hurt many pitchers careers but I’ve heard that’s an area Sixto excels over Kilome

    1. I’ve never seen Sixto (except for maybe one quick video Jim posted here a few months ago) but lots of scouting reports and so far the ONLY minus on him is his age. Command, velo, repertoire, comps to Pedro and a general impression of his presence all I have to go on. I had him #5 along with BA, which also informed my choice.

      1. Size is also an issue for him, especially as a righty. It really does matter, if only because it makes the pitcher possibly more susceptible to injury or performance declines over time.

  2. Rhys Hoskins for me in this spot. I have Sixto Sanchez and Kilome in the top ten, but not this high. He has been consistently good since his second year. He could be in Citizens Bank Park before the season is ended.

  3. It’s Kilome again for me. I have him at #3 on my list. Quinn was the big stretch but I guess people who think he’ll start in the MLB, voted him #4. He has Sixers top pick’itis and that knocks him back on my list. Williams was #5 on my list but Kilome is still waiting for his slot. Sanchez is so far away from the show that I have trouble putting him this high. He is #2 pitcher in the eligible field though.

  4. Curious why people are voting for Cozens over Hoskins. I reckon they’re close, and Cozens plays OF and it more athletic, but Hoskins seems to be the better overall prospect.

    1. IMO First Base kills him. He has to hit really well in order to be an average 1B. If they played the same position, then yeah, Hoskins, but RF with good arm sets the offensive bar much lower.

      1. Rei,

        I agree on Cozens having a lower offensive bar, but I think he also has lots of red flags, as Catch says, and they have to be factored into the equation.

        So far, Hoskins has shown he can hit and hit with power and that he can get on base. Maybe his limitations get exposed in AAA, but if he maintains his productivity through to the Big Leagues then he’s a solid MLB starter and maybe All-Star, regardless of committing the crime of being a right-handed hitter.

        1. My rebuttal is that Cozens has also shown that he can hit, hit with power, and get on base. A .350 OBP is quite good. Hoskins has better OBP, while Cozens has more power, to yield a virtually identical OPS. Beyond that, Cozens is 14.5 months younger than Hoskins, runs better, and is worth more defensively.

          1. allentown,

            Good points, all. I agree with them.

            I guess my deciding factor is that I see Hoskins as more reliable with fewer red flags like splits and K rates. Having said that, I certainly agree that Cozens has the higher ceiling and I’m rooting for him to reach it.

  5. I have Kilome and Sixto bunched tightly together at this point, with a slight nod to Kilome, but both are fine at 6 or 7 and if Sixto hits on all cylinders this year, he’ll be a top 5 in short order. I have Hoskins after that. Cozens has too many red flags right now, but probably has about as high of a ceiling as any of our prospects – the likelihood of his reaching the ceiling, however, and the fairly low floor, are the issues with Cozens.

    1. Besides JP and maybe Quinn, I actually think Cozens has the highest floor of anyone in the system. He hit .302/.378/.660 against right-handed pitching last year (an extra base hit every 5.5 PAs). I don’t see how he’s not at least a strong-side platoon at a corner OF spot.

      I really wouldn’t be surprised if Cozens makes the team in this role out of spring training or is called up by June. We haven’t signed a left handed OF/1B bat, despite a pretty obvious need for one. I think they’re keeping the spot open for either Williams or Cozens and right now Cozens is playing better.

  6. Went Kilome slightly ahead of Sixto for these next 2 spots. Then, in some order, I have Hoskins, Cozens and Gowdy to finish my Top10. I think the depth of the farm system shows in the quality of prospects through 20. I think they all play in the Major Leagues. It is whether any of the top 5 become elite that is still to be seen.

  7. Kilome and Sixto have been splitting the vote for the high upside pitcher. If there was just one of them, then I think he would have finished higher than Nick Williams. Ive been voting Kilome based on additional minors experience. Sixto definitely gets points for coolness level of nomenclature.

    1. You’re absolutely right, but Cozens and Hoskins voters also may have Williams ahead of the two pitchers.

      I’ve read where the one vote system eliminates the possibility of a third party being relevant, since your vote is meaningless if your only choice gets 2% of the total vote. The solution was to have a backup or even 2nd backup vote, where if your first choice isn’t one of the top two candidates, then your vote would be changed to the backup.

      I have no idea how that could be implemented in our context. It would take a different kind of poll that I doubt exists anywhere free for us to slap onto our page.

      1. I think we all encounter that during this process. And then I internally debate: do I vote for whom I have highest ranked, or do I choose between the two candidates I know who’ll receive the most votes?

        For instance, I have Randolph fifth. In this site’s vote, he’ll probably finish between 8-11. I’m voting Kilome here (I have him 4th), but with the next vote, do I vote Randolph, who won’t win, or Sixto, who has a decent chance of winning, and whom I have sixth?

        Not sure if its possible to be rectified, though.

        1. To me you vote for who you think belongs next and make your case. I have a hard time getting my nose bent out of shape over the ranking of prospects on this or any other site. It’s a fun exercise to see where people are at with their thought process and to talk baseball in the winter. Beyond that, it’s taken way to seriously by some.

          For now, I continue to vote Kilome until he’s off the board..

      2. You are correct that a “first past the post” voting system has the effect you describe. The mechanics of a back-up vote system are conceptually easy, but exceedingly difficult to implement – and I doubt that many voters could deal with the juggling of preferences involved without a good deal of practice – look at what happened with the “butterfly ballot” in Palm Beach that likely handed GW Bush the presidency in 2000.. The first real election (not counting for school office) I ever voted in used a rank-order system. This was in 1963 in Cambridge, MA for city council. There were nine to be elected and you could, as I recall, rank order up to nine. I was present at the counting process – it took 3 days to process all the votes – although a good computer program could handle it easily today. It would be easy to set up such a program in this case, subject to one proviso – all the possible candidates would have to be listed up front, since the system essentially consists of a rank ordering of the possible candidates and one ballot.

  8. I voted for Kilome over Sixto because he’s further up the ladder and is bigger. If Sixto really does have stuff that’s equal or better than Kilome along with superior control, he should catch up to him in Clearwater this year. But for now, I’ll go with the guy with the longer track record.

    After the two pitchers, to me, there’s a drop off. I still have plenty of doubts about Cozens and Hoskins even though they’re in the upper minors.

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