Box Score Recap – 8/24/2016

Sixto Sanchez shone as the GCL Phillies took over sole control of first place.  Cole Stobbe and Rudolfo Duran homered in support.

Tyler Gilbert, Blake Quinn, and Scott Harris pitched a combined shutout for Lakewood. The BlueClaws hammered out 16 hits and 13 runs.

Featherston, Ruf, Lino, Quinn, and Canelo all homered in losing causes.

And, the 2017 Rule 4 Draft will be held on June 12, 2017 (a Monday).

Lehigh Valley (77-54)  Lost to Pawtucket, 10-4.  Nick Pivetta left after four innings and 77 pitches.  He gave up 2 runs on 4 hits and struck out six.  James Russell stunk up the joint with 2 runs in the fifth and facing 5 batters without recording an out in the sixth.  He gave up 7 runs on 3 HR.  Hoby Milner struck out 4 in two innings, but gave up a solo HR.

Nick Williams had 2 hits.  Taylor Featherston (13) and Darin Ruf (19) hit home runs.  Ruf had 2 RBI (61).

  • #1 Crawford (.253)  went 1-4 with a double and RBI (28)
  • #3 Williams (.268)  went 2-4
  • #5 Thompson (11-5, 2.29) – promoted to Philadelphia.
  • #11 Appel – DL, season-ending surgery to remove a bone spur.
  • #12 Knapp (.259)  went 0-4
  • #18 Pivetta – 4.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 6 K
  • #24 Lively (9-5, 3.29)  DNP
  • #28 Ramos (0.38) – promoted to Philadelphia.

Reading (82-47)  Lost to Akron, 4-3.  Again.  Fourth in a row.  Trenton is only 1.5 games back.  Ricardo Pinto couldn’t last five full innings.  Jesen Therrien stranded an inherited runner and struck out 6 in 2.1 innings.  The Phils tried to climb back into the game but fell short on a solo HR by Gabriel Lino, RBI single by Rhys Hoskins, and solo HR by Roman Quinn.

  • #4 Alfaro (.279)  DNP
  • #7 Cozens (.284)  went 0-4
  • #8 Quinn (.278) went 1-3 with BB, HR (5), and RBI (21)
  • #13 Hoskins (.278) went 1-3 with a HBP and RBI (107)
  • #14 Kingery (.257) went 0-4
  • #16 Pinto – (5-6, 4.20) – 4.2 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 4 BB, 1 K, 1 HR, 1 WP, 1 Balk, 2 HBP
  • #18 Pivetta – (11-6, 3.41) – promoted to Lehigh Valley
  • #19 Eshelman (4-3, 4.75) – DNP
  • #26 Cordero – (0-1, 3.68) -DNP

Clearwater (75-52)  Lost to Brevard County, 5-3.  Shane Watson (3.93) pitched 5.0 innings and gave up 2 runs (1 ER) on 5 hits and 2 walks.  He struck out four.  After the Threshers came back to tie the Manatees, Jeff Singer (8.10) gave up 2 runs that the Threshers couldn’t make up.  Ranfi Casimiro (5.42) gave up the final run in his one inning.

Carlos Tocci had 3 hits and an RBI double.  Malquin Canelo had 2 hits and his 4th HR.  Chace Numata had the other RBI.

Watson was off tonight.  he only gave up two runs, but he pitched behind most of the night.  He only threw 10 first pitch strikes to the 22 batters he faced (45.5%).  He ran six, 3-ball counts.  Of the 75 pitches he threw, only 42 were strikes (56.0%).

  • #20 Garcia (10-3, 2.55)  DNP
  • #22 Canelo (.248)  went 2-4 with a HR (4) and RBI (48)
  • #23 Tocci (.283)  went 3-4 with a double and RBI (46)

Lakewood (65-63)  Beat Greensboro, 13-0.  Tyler Gilbert (7-8, 3.68) pitched five, three hit, shutout innings.  No walks and six strike outs.  Blake Quinn debuted with two, one-hit innings, and four strike outs.  Scott Harris (1.08) mopped up with two more one hit innings and two strike outs.

The BlueClaws mounted a 16-hit attack.  Grenny Cumana had 4 hits and scored 3 runs.  Emmanuel Marrero had 3 hits and 2 RBI.  Mark Laird, Jose Pujols, and Jan Hernandez had two hits apiece.  Laird and Cornelius Randolph had 2 RBI each.

NEWS – BlueClaws, Phillies announced four-year extension of Player Development Contract (runs through 2020).

  • #6 Randolph (.279)  went 1-3 with 2 RBI (25)
  • #9 Kilome (4-8, 4.14)  DNP
  • #27 Pujols (.248)  went 2-5 with a double and RBI (78)
  • #29 Edgar Garcia (4-1, 2.63)  DNP
  • #30 Tirado (5-1, 3.75)  DNP

Williamsport (33-30)  Lost to West Virginia, 6-2.  Adonis Medina got roughed up early giving up 4 of his 5 runs in the first inning.  Gregori Rivero had 2 hits and both RBI.  Darick Hall and Evan Rogers also had 2 hits.

  • #17 Medina (4-3, 2.91) – 5.0 IP, 5 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 3 BB, 4 K, 1 HBP, 1 WP, 1 HR
  • #25 Romero (2-1, 2.60)  DNP

GCL Phillies (39-14)  Beat the GCL Pirates, 9-4.  Sixto Sanchez pitched six innings for the second time in his career and still needed only 65 pitches to shut out the Blue Jays on two hits.  Aaron Brown came in and suffered the shortest outing of his career, giving up 3 runs in 0.1 inning.  Jhon Nunez (3.38) came in to strike out two batters with the tying run on second.  He pitched another inning and retired all five men he faced, 3 strike outs.  Jose Nin (0.57) finished up allowing a solo home run in the ninth and striking out two.

The Phillies banged out 14 hits, including home runs by Cole Stobbe (4) and Rodolfo Duran (3).  Danny Zardon had 3 hits.  Jose Antequera, Malvin Matos, Nerluis Martinez, and Duran had 2 hits each.  Duran had 4 RBI.

Cole Stobbe put the Philies on the board first with a 2-run HR in the second inning.  The Phillies tacked on single runs in the fourth and sixth innings on two-out singles by Duran and Nerluis Martinez.  After the Blue Jays pulled within one in the seventh, the Phillies scored five in the eighth on Matos’ RBI single, a throwing error by the Jays, and Duran’s 3-run HR.

Sanchez put on his usual show.  He threw predominantly fastballs the first time thru the line up.  The second time around, he introduced more changes ups and curve balls.  That was enough to dispatch the Blue Jays.  His FB touched 98 mph often enough to say his range was 95-98 mph.  His CH was low to mid 80’s (like 81-84 mph).  His CB was high 70’s to 81 mph.

  • #2 Moniak (.279)  went 0-5
  • #10 Gowdy (0-1, 4.50)  DNP
  • #15 Stobbe (.261)  went 1-3 with a BB, HR (4), and 2 RBI (12)
  • #21 Jhailyn Ortiz (.236)  went 1-5
  • Stephen (.275)  went 1-5
  • Miller (0-0, 1.50) DNP
  • Andrew Brown (0-0, 2.75) – 0.1 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 0 BB, 0 K
  • Stewart (2-2, 4.35)  – DNP
  • Fanti (7-0, 1.51)  DNP
  • Sixto Sanchez (5-0, 0.50) – 6.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 5 K

DSL Phillies (28-40)  Lost to the DSL Rays1, 4-2.

  • Jonathan Guzman (.295)  went 2-3 with a double and BB
  • Keudy Bocio (.225)  went 1-4 with a double and RBI
  • Simon Muzziotti (.256)  went 1-4 with an RBI
  • Dixon Gutierrez (.257)  DNP

DSL Phillies2 (42-27)  Beat the DSL Ray2, 5-1.

  • Leonel Aponte (2-4, 2.83)  DNP
  • Rafael Marchan (.339)  DNP

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

Extra Innings:

77 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 8/24/2016

  1. Rodolfo Duran is someone who is flying under the radar. Despite not hitting a lick last year in the GCL as a 17 year old he played regularly, as the Phillies felt that his defense justified prioritizing his development. This year- still only 18- he has developed into a good hitter and is showing some power. He is definitely worth keeping an eye on, despite our wealth of catching prospects.

  2. Man Nike Williams had a historically bad night. Does anyone know if he might have had 2 hits in his first 2 AB bc then he woul have went 0-43 for the rest of the night 😜😉

  3. How good are these 2 GCL pitchers? Fanti and Sanchez. They seem to have great stuff and dominate, but is it because of their placement?

    1. Don’t forget Llovera and Gowdy, who make pitch again this week. This team is loaded. Consider also how they pick each other up. From Stobbe to Duran kept getting hits when they were needed. The amount of extra base hits, including home runs is exceptional for this level.

    2. Fanti is a 19 y/o through the end of the year. He was taken in the 31st round of the 2015 draft and was an overslot signing. He pitched pretty well last year in the GCL. He’s a 6’2″ 185 lefty. Jim pointed out earlier in the year that Fanti was given some things to work on. The Phils thought as he was working through these things it was probably better not to tax him with a higher level at the same time. I thought he’d be given a start or two in Wmsprt before the year ended but the GCL team is having a magical season with a .736 win %. Why mess with that?

      Sanchez was 18 at the end of July. He pitched in the DSL last year and was less than successful with a 4.56 ERA and a 1.48 WHIP. His fastball ticked up (and that’s understating it) and the new guys coming up from the LA teams usually start in the GCL. As the season progresses, the six-gun legend has been building. Moving him up would have been fine but see the final two sentences on Fanti above and you’ll understand why he’s where he is.

      One other item that is discussed quite a bit in this site is the progression scenario that the Phils employ. The 1st year is mostly about doing what you do best or at least you think you do best. During the fall of that year, they usually give the guys something to work on. So this is the 2nd season in the Phils organization for both these guys and having them work on new things and having success is far more important than pushing them into higher levels. Next year will be interesting for both. Will they push them to LKW or only move them up one level to Wmsprt? I can make a case for either but LKW might be the real test for these guys. They might start in LKW and if they fail, they’ll be dropped back to Wmsprt in June.

      1. Thank you, These 2 have caught my eye lately as I scroll through the daily round ups. No need for promotions, I do believe that exposure to winning and success is important for the players. But wow Sanchez throwing in mid to upper 90’s is impressive.

        1. Plus, the Phillies field the youngest team in the GCL, they and three other teams have an average age of 18.8 years. Four of the teams they play most often are among the 5 oldest teams in the league – Tigers West (20.4), Pirates (20.2), Yankees East (20.1), and Blue Jays (19.9).

  4. The 2 DSL teams have 8 HRs total between them. That’s in 137 games. I think Cozens had 8 in 2 weeks earlier in the season. It could be worse. The DSL Marlins are hitting .202/.290/.249 with 4 HRs on the year. At least the Phils teams are in the .230 to .250 range in BA. It’s possible the DSL parks are pastures with no fences but then we’d probably see more inside-the-park HRs.

      1. Daniel Montano of the DSL Rockies is 17 y/o and has more HRs than both Phil’s DSL teams combined. Max Morales is an 18 y/o with the same number of HRs as Montano. I’ll admit the leader in the league, with 15 HRs, Brian Sanchez, is 20 Y/o and should be playing at least in A ball in the states.

    1. It is difficult to overstate how well Sanchez has performed this year. He is a grade “A” prospect – if he were a little bigger, he would be a grade “A+” prospect. His stuff appears to be outstanding and he appears to be a truly gifted pitcher and strike thrower. His ridiculous ERA appears to be a true reflection of how he has performed – it’s not a smoke and mirrors thing.

      Given his performance, I would be surprised if he did not start next year in Lakewood. If he does as well in Lakewood as I expect he might, he could be a top 5 prospect in the system by the end of next May. I’ll try to hold my excitement until then, but we might be looking at a true phenom here.

      1. Control/Command pitchers have done really well in GCL (see Severino and Ranger), but his stuff makes him truly exciting, giving him a very high ceiling to go along with about as much safety as you can hope for from a pitching prospect.

        There is a legitimate case for him being the top pitching prospect in the system *right now*. His ceiling is as high as Kilome and Medina, but has better control.

        1. I think the main question for Sixto is can he hold up over time and over longer outings. Can he throw 180 innings a year, with 90-100 pitch outings, as a fully developed MLer?

      2. Sixto Sanchez has been outstanding, but I have a feeling he’ll be pitching in Williamsport next season at age 18. I just feel they’ll follow the same path they used for Adonis Medina. I wouldn’t mind if they were aggressive with him, but I just think recent history says they won’t rush him. Also (not that it would be a factor in keeping Sanchez from full season ball … but), next year’s Lakewood rotation should be pretty stacked with Romero, Irvin, Falter, Medina, and Suarez.

        1. I side with Catch on this one, I think Sixto will be in Lakewood. He seems to be advanced well beyond his years, in that it’s not just pure stuff but the ability to throw strikes that’s making him successful. Williamsport may not be enough of a challenge for him. And his development will take precedent over those other guys you mentioned, except for maybe Medina. Plus, there’s a chance that Irvin will start in Clearwater; he was a college guy and he’ll be 23 in January.

  5. Well, with the 4-year agreement with Lakewood BlueClaws, looks like Camden’s Campbell Field will not have a minor league team tied in with a MLB affiliate anytime soon.

    1. I’ve noticed all the talk recently about a minor league team in Camden. The Major League Constitution and MLB By Laws assign territories to major league franchises. Wouldn’t the Phillies have to approve any organization moving an affiliate so close to the epicenter of their territory?

      1. Jim that’s romus. He lives in Camden that’s he wants a team there, He is 74 in two days, and in New Jersey he rides the bus for free.

      2. Jim- I read an article about this a few years ago so I might just be spewing nonsense but I believe the Phillies have initial dibs on any minor league park that becomes available within so many miles of their home park. They also can refuse another team access to it without having their own affiliate in there for up to 5-8 years I’m not exactly sure on the time frame but it is a decent chunk of time.

      3. JimP….do not know if that is the case. The Blue Rocks are 25 miles south as a Royals farm team in Wilmington….closer to any Phillies own affiliates
        Just not sure what the by-laws state on that issue.

        1. Only thing I could find on this subject…not sure if it is applicable:
          “The Player Development Contract creates an affiliation between a Major League organization and the ownership of a Minor League franchise. Though many stadiums are built, owned and managed by local municipalities — often to attract or retain a Minor League team — most MiLB franchise owners are private individuals or ownership groups. Some Major League organizations may own one or more of their Minor League teams, but this is not necessarily widespread. The decision to begin the relocation process is made by the franchise owner of the Minor League Baseball club. It is often — but not necessarily — connected to signing a new PDC. Some factors affecting a team’s decision to relocate might be: attendance, stadium conditions and leases, geographical proximity to other clubs in the same league or to its Major League parent, climate conditions, economic landscape of its local market, etc. At all levels, the Player Development Contract creates an affiliation between a Major League organization and the ownership of a Minor League franchise. The franchise ownership is responsible for assembling a front office and staff to manage all business aspects, including gameday activities such as ticket sales, promotions, broadcasting, etc. The MLB organization makes all decisions related to player development, including selecting the coaching staff and deciding which players to assign to the team.”

  6. I feel for Russell with the Iron Pigs. He has relieved; then started. He is used irregularly. I can see why they want to pitch him more often now with playoffs coming up.He could be valuable for an inning or two or as a loogy.

  7. Key to Lakewood’s success recently have been the emergence of Wilson Garcia taking over for the injured Heyden, Randolph’s hitting, Laird’s insertion after injury, and Pujols’ evening up on hits and Ks (2 and 2 last night). Dominguez and Tirado have put some juice on the mound also.

  8. By the way, to little fanfare, Pivetta actually had a very good outing last night. Yeah, he gave up a 2-run home run, but that happens from time to time. He struck out 6 in 4 innings and that’s great. I saw some of the outing and the difference with Pivetta is that his breaking pitches have come a long, long way very quickly. He throws a really nasty slider that is almost impossible to hit and also throws a neat leave curve that he can put over the plate. His FB is relatively straight, but he throws with more velocity than a guy like Eickhoff.

      1. The game was an away game – they are not posting the MPH numbers on TV so I don’t know if the announcers were describing pitch speed. I didn’t see the whole game, but what I saw was 4 seam FBs, wicked (and I mean truly wicked) sliders, and curve balls. He may have throws a change, but I didn’t see one. If you forced me to guess, I would say his FB was sitting 92-95 – he has an excellent arm. On top of that he commanded the FB well – he seemed to be hitting his spots.

          1. No, but he was pitching lights out when he left – I think they are just trying to hold down the innings and pitches thrown at this point. Again, my guess is that they are trying to save him for a small audition in Philadelphia which I sense is imminent.

    1. Don’t be surprised if, in the next week or so, Thompson and Pivetta switch places unless the team is limiting Pivetta’s innings. The outing I saw from Pivetta today was worthy of a promotion – his stuff is really good.

      1. Pivetta has to be added to the 40 anyway this fall…so might as well do it next week.
        Mack did say he wants more relievers called up after September 1st….but guys like Pivetta or even Lively , thay can still pitch in relief.
        The only issue with all these young prospect arms….is the pitched inning crunch…Pivetta already is beyond his seasonal high at 139, so have to see what they do.

        1. Romus, you’re right, I forgot we are so close to September 1 – they can bring him up then without sending anyone down. I don’t see the issue with him pitching another 20 to 25 innings. I suspect they will keep any further AAA outings down to 4 or 5 inning so they can see him pitch in Philly in September.

          1. I still find it crazy that there aren’t more stats on pitches thrown instead of innings. Well I mean instead of innings when talking about inning limits.
            I know this is at a much much lower level but I looked back at our pitching logs for our past legion season and we had a kid throw 45 innings and another who threw 28. The kid who threw the 45 threw 2 pitches less then the kid who threw 28. I would imagine that this happens at all levels, as you go up it prob get closer to even (meaning at the ML level Anyone who has thrown say 180 IP are prob somewhere around the same number of pitches thrown as other pitchers who have thrown 180 innings as well, hope that made sense). Anyways just never understood that but maybe in the front office they are looking at total pitches over innings.

            1. It still suprises me that teams don’t track “high stress” pitches. Basically any FB at the pitchers top velocity or any tightly thrown breaking ball. Maybe everyone is just playing the law of averages for this instead.

  9. I have a question generally speaking, -the Phillies – I’ve have seen a group of Young arms in the minor leagues pitching really well there at different levels of competition

    Thompson Nola Velasquez Eickoff
    , Eflan.. Pitched fairly well in the minors called up as the need presented itself.

    I’m not sure what happened or what did not translate between the minors in the major leagues; but after a few very good to good performances in the majors by these young picthers – they have hit a wall a concrete wall and they are not able to get back to their old form… perhaps With the
    exception of perhaps Of Eickoff

    Is there a disconnect between the coaching or the tact or the consistency between how these kids are coached in the minors versus the majors

    Are they mismanaged or it’s an org thing where the head doesn’t know what the arm is doing

    I know this is aminor league website but I have concerns about what these talented pictures did in minors and. Their adjustment here in the majors

    It is it just that it’s a long season: I.e. Pitch count

    It seems to me that some other organizations have a better handle on the transition from the minor to major leagues —

    That is – it may crop up from time to time in these other organizations, but not nearly as much as it has with the Phillies
    Maybe the Phillies just don’t know how to do. the transitioning piece well & maybe it’s costing them in terms of their futuretalent…

    1. I’m not sure if you’re a fan of the Phillies or just on a trolling mission. If you’re serious that the kids brought up from the farm and not succeeding right away then look no further than Carlos Carrasco. Carlos was the #1 or # 2 prospect for the Phillies. He was traded to the Indians for Cliff Lee. Most people thought he was a can’t miss prospect. For 4 or 5 years, he was terrible. I thought they’d give up on him. They didn’t and they’re pretty happy they didn’t.

      These young pitchers have to learn every time they go up a level and the big leagues is a huge leap. The best thing going for the Phillies is that they are not in a pennant race where you need these guys to perform immediately. They can bring them up and let them learn on the job. I am not unhappy with any of them. They are taking their shot, learning and getting ready for their long haul. The beauty of this situation is there are a lot of them. Some won’t make it but if 3 or 4 of these young guys become decent Major League performers, I’m happy.

    2. Every org has that same struggle

      Boston: Owens, Rodriguez
      KC: Yordany Ventura
      Cards: Carlos Martinez
      Yankees: Severino
      White Sox: Rodon

      And I am probably only scratching the surface of kids who have come up and struggled. I think I saw AJ Cole get rocked the other night by the O’s and he was far and away a better prospect than anything we have called up this season.

    3. I really don’t think anything more needs to be said then this right here . . . Every pitcher you named, this is their first full MLB season w another (Eflin) who was just called not THAT long ago. I mean I would expect this . . . How many prospect in their first full year or first 3rd Q light the league on fire?

  10. another important GCL game against the Jays. 18 year old Kyle Young on the mound for the phils vs 24 year old for the Jays …

    1. Olander is the opposing pitcher. He’s 6’9″ 280 lbs from UConn. He’s a free agent signing. He also lasted 2 innings and his replacement’s given up 3 runs in the 3rd.

    1. Hinkie, you are little too optimistic (but that’s what I find so endearing about you)

  11. Tom (Phoenix): What is the ceiling of something called Sixto Sanchez?

    J.J. Cooper: Ideally I’d like to say he’s a 60 BA Grade with his name, and that’s not crazy. He’s very talented with advanced control/command for his age to go with excellent stuff. He’s in rookie ball, so there are a lot of hurdles ahead and a lot of development but he’s a very, very legit prospect.

    Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/baseball-america-prospect-chat-15/#BvgAHlptdheVb7Qt.99

  12. Do not want to be a killjoy, but I have some level of concern for Sixto. One earlier poster detailed the uptick in his FB from last year to this and it makes me wonder. The jump in his peripherals from last year (in a pitching environment) to this is stunning especially for a small guy. I always think of Lennie in “93 looking like popeye in ST discussing his “vitamin regiment” over the winter. Fingers crossed I will not read about a 60 game suspension come February…

    1. If the increased velo happened at age 25, you might have cause for concern. His velo spoke coincided with his 18th birthday. It happens all the time … I wouldn’t be too worried.

  13. GCL Phillies sweep back-to-back games with Blue Jays. Today’s final 7-2. They’re now up by 2 games. Mickey Mo goes 3-5 with 2 doubles and a triple. Kyle Young got the start … 4 IP, 2 ER, 3 H, 1 BB, 3 K.

    1. Hinkie…..that is a very young GCL team with the best winning pct in that league.
      Something extraordinary for sure.

      1. Told you guys right after the draft that Young needs to be signed. 1 of my players have played against him it’s just so uncomfortable hitting against him and it gets on you QUICK (this is a kid who’s committed D1 n has seen really good pitching). He’s def. work in progress and the size will actually work against him in the beginning of his development but if he sticks with it I think we might have a really good mid rotation type arm. Might take him until like 23-24 to put it together but I guess that’s not THAT late.

        1. Eric D……also like the kid. But mot sure his college commitment was to a D1 school. It was to a local college in the New York area….Hofstra,

          1. Believe he was talking about one of his players that was a D1 recruit, saying he’s faced good pitching

            1. Toms correct . . . Meant that he’s seen other kids who have been drafted and other D1 commits so his praise of him stuck out to me. When talking with One of the TCU coaches, they said that Kyle wasn’t recruited heavily until late in the process, maybe why Hofstra landed him.

  14. Can anyone fill me in on Lenin “The Iron Curtain” Rodriguez? I remember seeing some talk about him but I can’t recall specifics, was he a big money sign?

    Last year as a 17 year old in the GCL he had 9.5% BB, 5.6% K and .116 ISO in 231 PAs. This year he has 13.2% BB, 13.2% K and .133 ISO in 53 PAs in the GCL.

  15. Bergjans has a 4.98 ERA in 130 innings (3-13) in A+. He struck out 133 batters while walking just 29..

    AJ Ellis will fit in as Backup catcher for Rupp for the rest of the season.

    Somehow sad to see Chooch leave. Wish him all the best in LA.

  16. Bergjans throws a fastball 89-92 t93, a 12-6 curveball 74-77 t79 and a changeup 80-82, t83.

    I believe he will end up being a reliever sooner or later.

  17. What level prospect will the PTBNL be for a Chooch ? Probably any org guy but hoping for low A with potential.

  18. Roman Quinn with another homer tonight. And Randolph is hitting well lately. Too bad Hoskins and Cozens are hitting well right now. And don’t worry about 4 22 to 24 year olds in there 1 and second seasons… They are still learn and getting better at baseball. Not everyone is like Mike Trout where they come up at the start of the season and lead the league in WAR for the next 4 or 5 years (atleast). Also, what was the point of trading Chooch. They got nothing good back (a worse backup catcher who wants to stay with Clayton Kershaw) and a low a pitcher with an ERA of almost 5.

    1. Actually Tim when Trouth came up he did HORRIBLE at first. I know this bc I traded him in my fantasy league after telling and screaming to my co manager draft him in that yeas draft. Worst fantasy move ever (I believe I got Nelson Cruz and Who knows who else)

  19. Alfaro is only up for 2 days until Ellis gets to NY.
    The $1.35 million is enough to pay for the salary of Nola and Eickhoff next year.

    1. Phillies included cash to the Dodgers, which I suspect is the difference between what the Dodgers still owe Ellis and what the Phillies owe Ruiz. I suspect the only $$$ the Phillies saved was the $500,000 buyout in 2017.

      Move was made to give Ruiz a playoff shot and they took Ellis so that LA did not have to deal with DFA’ing a popular clubhouse player.

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