Box Score Recap – 7/28/2016

Rhys Hoskins’ 30th home run and 94th RBI weren’t enough for Reading.

JoshTobias went 4-4 for Clearwater in a losing effort.

Lakewood’s Franklyn Kilome rebounded from a two-run first inning to shut down Augusta in a strong effort. Zach Coppola had four hits as the lead off hitter.

Bailey Falter pitched a solid five innings (one ER) in a Williamsport loss.

And, Brandon Liebrandt pitched six shutout innings for the GCL Phillies in a game they eventually lost.

Lehigh Valley (64-41)  DNP.

  • #1 Crawford (.261)
  • #3 Williams (.287)
  • #5 Thompson (10-5, 2.29) –
  • #11 Appel – DL, season-ending surgery to remove a bone spur.
  • #12 Knapp (.265)
  • #24 Lively (4-4, 3.86) –
  • #28 Ramos (0.38) – promoted to Philadelphia.

Reading (70-35)  Lost to Erie, 5-3.  Nick Pivetta (9-6, 3.64) pitched five innings.  He gave up two early runs but the Phils fought back to tie the game in the top of the sixth.  He was lifted with runners on the corners an no outs in the bottom of the inning.  Joely Rodriguez (2.61) came in and gave up line drive after line drive until he allowed both inherited runners to score and one of his own.  Damage was limited by Gabriel Lino who threw out a base runner trying to advance behind a throw to the plate.  (I just “love” relief pitchers who can’t strand base runners.)  Hoby Milner (1.60) followed with two no-hit innings.

Harold Martinez (.263) had two hits.  Osmel Aguila (.226) had two hits and his fourth home run.  Rhys Hoskins hit a two-run home run off Dan Norris, the former Blue Jays top prospect who was traded to Detroit in the David Price trade.  He’s the guy who lived in a van behind a WalMart one spring training.

  • #4 Alfaro (.295) DNP.
  • #7 Cozens (.277)DNP.
  • #8 Quinn (.288) DL, oblique, rehabbing with the GCL Phillies.
  • #13 Hoskins (.285) went 1-4 with HR (30) and 2 RBI (94).
  • #14 Kingery (.250) went 0-4.
  • #16 Pinto – (4-4, 4.54) – DNP.
  • #18 Pivetta – (9-6, 3.64) – 5.0 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 4 K, 1 HR.
  • #19 Eshelman (2-2, 6.75) – DNP.

Clearwater (60-42)  Lost to Daytona, 13-5.  Shane Watson (3-4, 4.32) could only record one more out after Josh Tobias committed a one-out fielding error that opened the flood gates to a six-run inning.  Yacksel Rios (7.06) got the final out of the inning, but gave up five more on six hits and four walks over the next three innings.  Joe DeNato (3.26) gave up two runs and struck out four in three innings.  Ulises Joaquin (2.40) pitched a clean final inning.

Several guys got playing time when the Threshers found themselves in a 10-0 hole after two innings.  Three more guys who played the whole game changed positions more than once.  Great game for the score card.  Glad it happened on the road.

Tobias (.714) went 4-4 with two doubles.  Kyle Martin (.249) had two RBI (59).  Zach Green (.256) had an RBI (56) and three walks.  Derek Campbell (.287) wore the golden sombrero with four strike outs in four at bats.

  • #20 Garcia (8-2, 2.50) – DNP.
  • #22 Canelo (.245) DNP.
  • #23 Tocci (.271) went 0-2 with 2 K.
  • #26 Cordero – (5.63) – DNP.

Lakewood (48-53)  Beat Augusta, 3-2 in ten innings.  Franklyn Kilome (3-7, 4.31) gave up two runs in the first inning on three singles and a Deivi Grullon throwing error.  He shut the GreenJackets down on three more singles over the next six innings.  He walked NONE and struck out nine.  Austin Davis (1-0, 0.00) got his first win and Sutter McLoughlin (3.03) picked up his fifth save with three shutout innings.

Zach Coppola (.328) had four hits at the top of the order and scored two runs.  “C” Randolph, Damek Tomscha (.294), and Grenny Cumana (.292) had two hits each, including the RBI-single that brought home the go-ahead run.  Jan Hernandez (.257) came off the DL (first game with Lakewood since June 27th) and went 0-5 with three strike outs.

  • #6 Randolph (.259) went 2-4 with a walk.
  • #9 Kilome (3-7, 4.31) – 7.0 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 9 K, 88 pitches/61 strikes.
  • #27 Pujols (.231) DNP.
  • #29 Edgar Garcia DNP
  • #30 Tirado (2-1, 5.22)- DNP.

Williamsport (24-15)  Lost to State College, 2-1.  Bailey Falter (1-4, 3.00) pitched a solid five innings.  He gave up two runs (1 ER) on four hits, NO walks, and struck out four.  Rehabbing Mark Laird (.360) had two of the Crosscutters’ four hits and their only RBI.  Luke Williams (.234) returned to the line up for the first time since July 8th (no report on the injury suffered).  He went 1-4 with a double.  Henri Lartigue (.231) had the other hit, went 1-4 with a triple.   Luis Encarnacion (.163) went 0-4 with three strike outs.  Luke Maglich (.250) went 0-1 with 2 walks, a stolen base, and scored their only run.

  • #17 Medina (4-0, 1.14) – DNP.
  • #25 JoJo Romero

GCL Phillies (21-9) Lost to the GCL Yankees West, 2-1.  Brandon Liebrandt pitched six shutout innings allowing four hits, a walk, and a hit batter.  He struck out six and picked a runner off first base.  He left leading 1-0.  Luis Carrasco (3-1, 0.00) blew his second save when he allowed two unearned runs.  The error that allowed the tying run and set up the go ahead run came on his own error on a throw to first after fielding a batted ball.

Roman Quinn played seven innings before being replaced.  He went 2-4, scored a run, stole a base, and was caught stealing when picked off.  The Phillies’ lone run scored when Quinn singled, stole second, advanced to third on a wild pitch, and scored on a wild pitch. Danny Zardon returned to the line up for the first time since July 5th.  Unofficially, I heard he had an eye injury that kept him out of the line up.  He played three innings and went 0-1. Ben Pelletier (.205) went 1-4 with a double.

  • #2 Mickey Moniak (.322) went 1-3 with a BB.
  • #10 Kevin Gowdy (0-1, 4.50) – DNP.
  • #15 Cole Stobbe (.282) went 0-4.
  • #21 Jhailyn Ortiz (.275) went 1-4.
  • Josh Stephen (.282) DNP.
  • Justin Miller (0-0, 4.15) – DNP.
  • Andrew Brown (0-0, 2.19) – DNP.
  • Will Stewart (1-2, 5.91) – DNP.
  • Nick Fanti (2-0, 1.19) – DNP.
  • Sanchez (3-0, 0.67) – DNP.

DSL Phillies (20-26)  Lost to the DSL Astros Blue, 5-3.

  • Jonathan Guzman (.297) DNP.
  • Keudy Bocio (.213) went 1-3 with a BB.
  • Simon Muzziotti (.264) went 2-4 with 2 RBI.
  • Dixon Gutierrez (.280) went 1-4.

DSL Phillies2 (26-20)  Beat the DSL Astros Orange, 6-2.

  • Leonel Aponte (2-4, 3.02) – DNP.
  • Carlos Oropeza (.204) went 2-4.
  • Rafael Marchan (.337) went 1-3 with a BB.

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

Extra Innings:

  • 7/26 – Lakewood released RHP Skylar Hunter.
  • 7/28 – Phillies placed RF Peter Bourjos on the 15-Day DL retroactive to July 27, 2016. Right shoulder sprain.
  • 7/28 – Phillies activated CF Aaron Altherr from the 60-day disabled list.
  • 7/28 – Clearwater activated RHP Shane Watson from the 7-day disabled list.
  • 7/28 – Luke Leftwich assigned to Lakewood from Clearwater.
  • 7/28 – Lakewood activated 3B Jan Hernandez from the 7-day disabled list.
  • 7/28 – Grant Dyer assigned to Lakewood from Williamsport.
  • Organization Rosters are up to date.

89 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 7/28/2016

      1. Not sure, but I think he may mean command/location in the strike zone..
        He did have good control with no walks last night.

      2. In the context of low-A, that is not bad. 40 command is somewhere in the range of occasionally hits the glove exactly, maybe has command in a certain quadrant of the zone, but still overall a bit loose in the strike zone. For low-A and where Kilome has been this year, that is a positive.

      3. 40 command grade in a game where he had 9Ks and 0 walks…this is what scouts mean when they say “don’t scout the stat line.”

        1. Or it means the scout came into the game with a grade given over the course of a season and didn’t make an adjustment for a single game.

      4. 40 command is so subjective, you think you know where he is trying to throw the ball, how bad are the misses? I mean no walks and 40 command doesn’t even really add up? Thoughts?

        1. Command is locating your pitch where you want to. Control is throwing strikes. Command and walk total not really connected (see Morgan, Adam and Buchanan, David)

          1. Yes, what the scouting report is showing is that he was able to beat the other team with superior stuff and not be locating his pitches.

            It’s that stuff that give him top of the rotation potential but the lack of command that needs to be improved.

      1. Hard to say because I don’t think his present stuff is that great and he doesn’t throw very hard. But he’s still young and projectable, so the stuff could take a leap forward at some point. He’s an Almaraz guy though, so he has some innate ability to know how to pitch.

      2. Had a friend see him last week, said he was 87-91. Really skinny so maybe more down the line but there are lhp in ML with that kind of velocity worse case

  1. Today was a perfect example of why Quinn is still a top prospect in the Phillies org. He can simple wreck havoc on the bases . . . I really wish the Phillies had a coach in AAA or AA that was like DL and could really teach Quinn how to use his speed (btw I have no clue if they have anyone like that, they might). He’s so damn fast that he doesn’t need the best jumps or reads but if he really worked on it . . we could be talking about 60 plus steals a year.

    To clarify what David Lee said in that tweet, he meant that he didn’t throw it, not that he didn’t have one or that it was a bad pitch.

    And what did I tell you guys about Tobias, kid is hitting over .700 . . . It’s a little lower than I’d like but I’ll take it

    1. Except in the 7th inning with the Phils up 1 – 0 and badly needing an extra run, Quinn strikes out with a man on 3rd with 1 out. A SF would have sufficed. And he was picked off 1st base in the 5th. 2 potential rally killers.

      1. Checking the box score look like batter after him strikes out also and on the pick off batter after him hit to second would have been a double play cant assume what might have happen

  2. Tobias should get kudos for his 4 – 4 just like Kingery got a pat on the back for his 3 hits and a HR in the day before’s Reading game. Coppola had a nice game too going 4 – 5. He’s hitting .328/.407/.374. I’m not sure he can hit the ball out of the infield but the guy can get on base. At some point, he’s probably going to falter but he needs to be challenged to see where that crash occurs. They should put him on an offseason bulk up program. Maybe he and Tocci can try lifting a car or something. Let’s start with a Smart car and move on to a Chevy Suburban.

    1. agreed on tobias, good to see both kingery and tobias responding well to their promotions initially.

      Somebody give Coppola some of Daniel Stumpf’s supplements over the offseason lol

      Great to see Kilome doing well…I really do believe that the cold weather contributed to his bad start.

      Falter and Leinbrandt…meh. These are org guys in my eyes, but who knows, maybe one of them will make it.

      1. What exactly is it about a 6’4″, 19 year old lefty having a great season in a league where the avg age is 21, that screams org guy to you? Falter is far from an org guy…

        1. Tommy, wondering the same thing. This should be something that perks up everyone’s attention, not labels the kid as an “org guy” @ 19. That’s simply ridiculous.

      2. Falter org guy?????????
        Already he is labeled.
        Maybe Snell was one with the Rays three years ago also.

        1. yeah snell def was one. so like i said, maybe hell break out of it and ill be wrong. he just struggles to hit 90. for me, i need more than that. sure there are some guys who have success in the low 80s, but those guys have to prove themselves at every level, so thats what falter will have to do. i hope he proves me wrong

          1. The three low A lefties…HS lefty draftees….all sit in the high 80s right now according to JimP…Falter, Fanti and tall Kyle Young. I surely hope they get stronger and are able to crack the 90 barrier A lefty sitting at 91-93 looks a lot better then high 80s.

            1. The difference between 89 and 93 for Falter is the difference between org arm and solid 3/4….of that group you are right, whoever can add just a few mph will be the ones who jump to the top

      3. @ danurda – Leibrandt, probably. but falter? prospects are all about projections and Falter still has a lot of projection left to be judged as top prospect or just an org filler. Falter may not be the sexy pick at that time, but I like his projections.

      4. Can’t label falter as that yet, he is a 19 year old high school draft. Maybe so with leibrandt as the clock is ticking more

    2. Agree on Tobias. Always like to see guys find some early success after a level jump. It gives them an early confidence boost that they can compete at the new level..

  3. Just a question. Would the Phillies ever consider a 2nd low A team like the Yankees have. With our growing number of young players and LA signings I think it would make a ton of sense.

    1. Agree……the other rookie league, Appalachian only has 10 teams…the Phillies would be wise to perhaps look into it.
      The 2nd team in the DSL is really the other now defunct VSL league team. Maybe it comes down to funding….the Yankees have five teams vs the Phillies three…..two in the DSL, two in the GCL and the one in the App league.
      Phillies seem to keep a close eye on budget restraints.

      1. @romus – I would think that budget constraint is least of the Phils concern. I might be wrong but I really like that 2nd GCL team or a App team for them. I believe the Phils can play with the big boys!

    2. Not sure what league it’d fit into but Lancaster has a nice stadium and for minor league baseball has decent attendance. Currently the team is in the Atlantic league (independent).

      1. And Camden’s Campbell Field is now also available.
        Rumor last year from one of the beat writers was saying, was Phillies may have been thinking of moving the Williamsport franchise to Camden….but the league is New York-Penn…not New York-Penn-NJ. Not sure the league charter catered to that idea.
        I assumed the Lakewood club would eventually move to Camden and the Yankees would move their SALLY team from Charleston to closer to their home fan base to Lakewood.
        There are opportunities for minor league expansion if the Phillies were interested.

        1. Think having a team in Camden is a no brainer. Also think looking into another team in PA in Lancaster would be a good idea, maybe at the expense of the 2nd DSL team?

        2. The NY-Penn league already has teams in Ohio, West Virginia, Maryland, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Vermont. Doubt that having a team in New Jersey would be a big problem.

        3. Good ideas but Lakewood has a beautiful stadium and is much safer. However, another farm team could fill Camden and Lancaster easily

          1. Good points. It is [obviously] safer – Baghdad is safer – and the stadium is gorgeous. Seems though that teams like having farm teams closer to their cities.

        4. The NY Penn League has teams in Ohio, West Virginia, Maryland, Vermont, Mass. etc. (and had the NJ Cardinals at one time). I would love to see Wport relocate to Camden or Lancaster..

  4. If I had to guess, I think that was Liebrandt’s last rehab start since he did so well. He could be at Cwater for his next start, especially since Leftwich was sent back to Lwood.
    Tobias with 4 hits but with a big error. I’m very happy to see Quinn playing again but I’m sure his swing is a bit rusty. He has game changing speed if he can stay healthy. Nothing new…
    Props to Altherr, Franco, and Joseph, recent minor leaguers, on their big night.

  5. Marlins to acquire Cashner done deal . I don’t know what they gave up, looks like Rangers , Balt , The Dodgers etc still looking.

    1. Marlins gave up Josh Naylor(their #3 prospect-#100 overall), Jared Cosart(former Phillie), Luis Castillo(young pitcher who can reach 100 mph) and Carter Capps(injured reliever) for Casner, Rea and a relief pitcher. The Marlins mortgaged their future for a playoff spot this year in my opinion.

    1. I Totally agree with our gm. If you wont give up a top prospect for Hellickson. Then we do a offer. He reject it, and I believe we would get pick 35-40 on of those. Hey if am not wrong. Schmidt and Rollins were lower picks. So I would roll the dice on a draft pick. over a prospect with not a lot of upside.

      1. Why do you assume he’ll reject a QO? It’s just about 17m this year, 17m!!! You also have to remember how a QO affects FAs. It doesn’t affect the studs but it def does the ones like Hellickson. A team isn’t going to want to give up their 1st round pick (ESP if their farm system is weak) for a 4-5th start type ESP when there will be other similar options. You mentioned Scott Boras . . You do realize that there have only been 3 players to accept offers and one of them was a Boras client. I’m not so sure he doesn’t take a 17m paycheck and hit the FA market AGAIN next year.

  6. Tobias went from being a year and a half old for his league to just about league average. Think it would be great if he continued to hit for the remainder of the season and really put himself on the map for the FO going into 2017.

    Not sure what the reports on his defense in LF were, but maybe he gets some playing time next year in Reading. Would be a nice problem to have.

  7. Going to the Lakewood/Greenjackets game tonight. Super jazzed. Any tips or things this (very) amateur enthusiast should know or look closely at?

  8. Skylar Hunter – cool name, wasted pick. But its a good sign that the farm is deep that’s why they can afford to lose a young and projectable prospect.

  9. Mickey hitting .389 last ten games…

    Hoskins leads the planet in HRs…

    Altherr announces his presence with authority.

  10. I did a quick scan at box scores before bed…on the surface didnt look it be a good day of reading but Jim brought a smile to my face! Plus i would love a minor league team in camden

  11. Looking forward to Sixto Sanchez day … let’s see his legend (at least on this board) continue to grow!

    1. Drew Anderson, Medina and Sixto will pitch today. Young arms that we will follow in the next coming years.

    2. Six-gun Sanchez goes six 5 hit innings with 0 runs. Phils are trading goose eggs into the 7th. Sixto’s opposite starter is a 22 y/o. They’re into the bullpens now.

  12. Where are we among mlb organizations? At a quick glance and without deep research, I would say we are near the top with a bullet!

    Taking into consideration ownership, front office and talent from big league down:

    1 Braves
    2 Cubs
    3 Giants
    4 Cardinals
    5 Royals
    6 Phillies
    7 Rangers
    8 Dodgers
    9 Red Sox
    10 Pirates
    11 Orioles
    12 Tigers
    13 Mets
    14 Rays
    15 Indians
    16 Astros
    17 Yankees
    18 Nats
    19 Blue Jays
    20 Athletics
    21 Mariners
    22 Twins
    23 Reds
    24 DBacks
    25 Brewers
    26 Padres
    27 Marlins
    28 White Sox
    29 Rockies
    30 Angels

    1. If you’re including big league talent, I don’t see any possible way that the Braves are #1.

    2. Terrible list the Braves have no talent in the major leagues. I am not sure if you know this or not but the team that plays in Boston now is called the Red Sox.

      1. That’s a good one, Bob.

        Yeah I think I may have weighted the Braves’ front office track record of savvy and development of young talent too heavily.

    3. 8mark….you are mixing apples with oranges, so to speak,when you take into account the major league roster.
      The Sox at 9, the Astros at 16 and now the Yankees after the Chapman trade, are a little lower than I would have thought
      If you are trying to mesh MLB rosters with the team’s respective farm system talent..
      BTW…..Moresi says Yankees and Nats may work out a Miller for Giolito…believe it or not, but one for one trade soon. That puts the Yankees further up the farm system ranking and a little lower in the MLB talent ranking. And not sure what Nat’s Rizzo would be thinking in that deal….unless he get another Yankee top prospect from them with Miller.

      1. The Nats might get another prospect in that deal, but it likely would not be one of the Yankees’ best. And It’s easy to understand what Rizzo is thinking – the Nats are ready to win RIGHT NOW. Miller is one of the best relief pitchers around and has a team friendly contract of around $9M/year for the next two seasons (I believe). Prying Miller away from the Yankees will take a lot. Plus, right now the Nats’ rotation is pretty set, so Giolito isn’t needed immediately.

        Clearly the Nats would be trading the future to win right now, but a lot of teams in the WIN NOW mode are willing to do this.

    4. It seems the measure of farm systems is largely on top MiLB talent close to MLB ready. By that criterion, I think the Phils fall below the Cubs, Nats, Red Sox, Dodgers, Pirates, Rangers, Astros and Braves. 9th seems about right. On the basis of depth and the microscope we put the overall Phils’ farm system under, it’s tempting to bump the Phils higher but this could just be liking the players we know at the expense of players in systems we don’t. The Philly pharm has teams playing some winning baseball but that’s an indicator more than proof of anything.

    1. On top of the other results Sixto picked off two guys at first. I’ve mentioned this before but has anyone else noticed the inordinate number of players picked off in the lower leagues. I don’t have the data to do a comparison to the majors but that seems to be a rarity there and, at least the sense I get, it seems at least one player is picked off every minor league game. Again maybe just me noticing it and not that bad but wow…

      1. I would assume that makes sense. The lower level of baseball the higher level of mistake made. No?

  13. BA Hot sheet

    10. Rhys Hoskins, 1b, Phillies

    Age: 23
    Why He’s Here: .350/.517/.850 (7-for-20), 4 R, 1 2B, 3 HR, 8 RBIs, 7 BB, 3 SO, 1-for-1 SB

    First basemen have to mash to keep their prospect status simmering, and Hoskins has done just that all year long. His three home runs this week got him to 30 for the season and gave him a four-homer cushion on his Reading teammate Dylan Cozens for the minor league lead. (JN)

    Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/prospect-hot-sheet-july-29-marquez-silences-opposition/#uJexz799zdsYFGY2.99

  14. Jeff Passan
    ✔ ‎@JeffPassan

    Sign that the trade market has officially gotten out of hand: Jeremy Hellickson may well fetch at least three, and perhaps four, prospects.

    1. Cashner has been really bad the last couple of years. You have to think the Phils could get the same kind of return for Hellickson.

  15. Reports have Texas heavily scouting Velasquez tonight. Surprised to hear that he’s still being considered by EITHER club at this stage.

    1. CSNPhilly reporting talks are “pretty deep” regarding Velasquez with Hellickson as a secondary target.

  16. Who would you want from Texas? Mazara is probably a dream but I hope profar is involved. Do not want Gallo with all those strikeouts.

    1. If no Mazara then Brinson would be the guy I’d like to see headline a deal. I don’t think Profar is that special of a player and really isn’t Kingery projected to give most of if not all the value of Profar? Maybe similar hit tools, but Kingery is better on the bases and in the ML Profar hasn’t hit for much extra base power so their total xbh numbers would probably be similar maybe higher for Kingery because of how many doubles he hits. Profar has more HR power, but has been not so good defensively and has a really low walk rate to go along with an 18% K rate. I just don’t get the Profar love as a headliner of a deal. Gallo really scares me. Don’t we have our own version of him in cozens? Less power, but he’s no slouch and a better OF defender.

      If no Mazara then I’d want Brinson, one of Ortiz/Mendez, Taveras, and one of Ibanez/Guzman/Tate with maybe one more lower level player.

      Too bad the Dodgers aren’t more into VV. They got a hell of a system and I think I’d like the package the U could put together more.

  17. So far Gallo back in the Major league 12 atbats 1 hr 6 Stikeouts 1 bb. So far he’s back to his 50 % k rate. He makes Howard look like a batting champ. They have to include Mazara , the Philles are not asking to scout there minors so I’d say they know who they want . They better get Mazara , Yohander Mendez, profar, plus 2 pitchers mlb ready.

  18. I’m not holding my breath with these VV rumor lol waste of energy and doubt it happens. Sorry to be so negative. A haul would be great but it’s the haul the Phillies will want that’ll break apart the deal which is fine.

  19. Mazara is a star and only 20. Expecting him for Velasquez is unrealistic.

    I think a two-for-one deal is possible. I would trade VV for Profar and Brinson.

    I would avoid Gallo, if possible.

    VV’s injury history makes him a sell-high candidate.

    1. I’m with you Profar would work well for both teams. Texas no longer needs him for second base and the phillies need someone to fill that gap. He is an above average regular type guy. One more prospect from their top 5 would be fine with me. VV may very well have to go to the bullpen one day. We should sell high and when the time comes we can always get an ace in free agency or trade with our surplus of prospects in the future.

      1. I’d rather make Profar two minor leaguers in their top 8 if I could. He just isn’t all that good.

    1. No way VV and Herrera trade Quinn first. The Phillies would trade 2 pieces of there core unless they received a big league player back. Brinson hitting , 229 in 3 A.

  20. No way Hellickson was going to get 4 prospects back he’s a rental. VV also a very possible star no way Brinson the Phillies already have Herrera and Nick Williams . Believe it or not the Phillies OF say they want pitching. So Yohander Mendez and Ortiz plus ) Profar , and maybe Dillon tate.

  21. If this Velasquez deal happens I’d think it looks like Brinson, Ortiz, Mendez, and a back end top ten player maybe someone slightly below that.

  22. Texas GM Jon Daniels publicly said he’d wish he had Odubel back. That would sweeten the return. Just saying….

    Since VV’s 16K masterpiece in April and biceps stint on the DL, I can’t say that I’m overly encouraged by his regularly high pitch count or lower velocity. Even Mackanin said he hasn’t pitched like the power pitcher he’s supposed to be. Yet he’s still been effective and young enough to project well into the future, perhaps as a closer one day.

    As for Herrera, he’s got value as a young, energetic player. Not sure what’s happened to that plate discipline earlier in the season (remember all those BBs?). His recent ABs are less quality and he’s just not a heady player, I’m sorry. But if Texas wants him back, we can talk.

    1. I’d certainly consider trading both for the right package. That would have to be one hell of a package.

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