Box Score Recap – 4/14/2016

Lehigh Valley (2-4) Lost to Pawtucket 13-1.  The Red Sox collected 19 hits.  Sean O’Sullivan got the win for Pawtucket.

  • Williams picked up an outfield assist.

Reading (5-3) Beat Harrisburg 9-0.  Nick Pivetta  shut down the Senators on one hit over 6.0 innings.  He struck out 7 and walked two.  Yacksel Rios struck out 3 in 2.0 innings of hitless relief.  Angelo More broke open a close game with a grand slam in the fifth inning.

  • The Fightin’ Phils stroked 12 hits.
  • Quinn stole his 4th base.
  • Crawford went 1-4 with a 2B, BB, and RBI.
  • Alfaro went 2-5.
  • Hoskins went 1-3 with a BB.
  • Mora went 3-5 with a HR (2) and 4 RBI.
  • Aaron Brown went 1-5 with a 2B and RBI.
  • Valentin went 1-4 with a 2B and RBI.
  • Marrero went 1-1 with a HR (2) and 2 RBI.
  • The Senators stole 2 bases but were caught once by Alfaro.

Clearwater (4-4) Beat Charlotte 6-4.  Alexis Rivero entered the game with 2 men on base and nobody out in the sixth and preserved the current two-run deficit.  Rivero pitched 3.0, one-hit innings and earned the victory when Kyle Martin drove a 3-2 pitch deep over the right field wall to take the lead in the bottom of the seventh.  Charlotte opted to pitch to Martin after Carlo Tocci sacrificed Scott Kingery and Drew Stankiewicz into scoring position.  They represented the tying and go-ahead runs.  After a mound consult, Charlotte decided to pitch to Martin with first base open and Mitch Walding on deck.  Martin fell behind 0-2 on a pair of change ups, but battled back to grab the lead for the Threshers.

  • Kingery went 1-3 with a 2B.
  • Martin went 1-3 with a HR (4), BB, and 3 RBI.
  • Sandberg went 2-4.
  • Canelo went 3-4 with 2 RBI.
  • Kingery stole his second base.
  • Charlotte stole a base, but Gabriel Lino threw out two runners.

Lakewood (1-7)  Lost to Greessboro 7-4.

  • Randolph went 1-2 with 2 RBI and 3 BB.
  • Tobias went 4-5.
  • Coppola stole his second base.
  • 24-year old Ben Holmes mad a 3-inning appearance for Greensboro.

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

Extra Innings – 

  • Daniel Stumpf placed on the Restricted List.  He was suspended for 80 games after testing positive for a banned substance (dehydrochlormethyltestosterone).
  • Elvis Araujo recalled from Lehigh Valley.

 

73 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 4/14/2016

  1. Corn-Dolph is my nickname for you know who. Pretty dang awesome, people, don’t ya think. Say it out loud: Corn-Dolph.

    1. I’d be willing to consider your suggestion if your own nickname didn’t make me cringe and scroll quickly downward every time I see it. Seriously, are you like 13? Wait, you may in fact be 13. If so: does your mother know what you’re doing on the internet?

    1. Ben’s been relegated to middle inning relief. Not sure starting is his forte. He’s getting long in the tooth for A-, aye?

  2. I’ll say it again. I don’t know why Houston traded Vasquez for Giles. At worst they should have made him their closer. The Phillies pulled off two (2) Hershel Walker type heists in the past year. Strange to be on this side of a lopsided deal like the Giles heist. And the strangest part is they pulled this on a smart GM, that should know better than to trade that kind of package for a reliever.

      1. Does everyone remember the comments about Dom Brown. Peter Bojuros. how are they working out??
        lets wait and see on vv.

    1. HOU made a calculated trade and thought the the health risk is bigger than the upside. It is possible (and I’m hopin that it is the case) that HOU made the same mistake as ARI did to give up on Scherzer before.

      Considering how much a stud SP cost in the market, the VV trade has a making of a steal — or the Phils can just view this as concession of RAJ screwing up the Hunter Pence trade — remember the PTBNL as Domingo Santana.

      1. Every starter is capable of being injured and becoming nothing. It still doesn’t mean you trade a #1, 2 or 3 starter for a relief pitcher. Anybody with any sense could see that deal was an easy win for the Phillies. Velasquez isn’t the best pitcher in baseball, as his stat line indicates. But barring injury (which is with every pitcher) Velasquez is at worst, 6 years of a young cost controlled Matt Garza. You take that all day, for ANY relief pitcher.

        1. True, but professional leagues are also copycat leagues given how the Royal buck the predictions and the trends and MLB is a stat driven league. HOU, being run my analytic group of people probably think that the risk is more than the reward so I don’t condemn whoever made that decision — HOU built up their farm system with the same approach and they will miscalculate at times. If they do, I’m just glad as a Phillies fan that the Phils will have the position side of the trade.

          Personally, I think VV to Giles straight up is good trade and my personal rankings also trend in favor of SP.

    2. I cant believe you its two games. OMG people just jump ahead of themselves. Lets see what the kids does the second time he faces these teams. They don’t know him yet.

      1. I mean, usually I’m in the “let’s wait and see” camp. But the guy threw one of the most dominant starts in franchise history yesterday. If that doesn’t get you excited about the future you need to see a doctor about getting on antidepressants. Sure, maybe there’s a medical issue looming, but that is a threat looming over every pitcher. Sure, maybe he’ll never throw a game as good again. But if he’s 85 percent of the pitcher we saw yesterday, he’s still a quality top-of-the-rotation arm, fetched in return for a reliever, along with several other players. That’s good! Be happy!

      2. rocco….he is in the Art Mahaffey chronicles of Phillies greats now! That has to mean something! :).

      3. Rocco I say get excited if you want. There is nothing wrong with feeling good. It’s better for your health.

        Trades happen you win some you lose some and sometimes you just get lucky.

      1. Understand Mack letting him throw 113 pitches yesterday, ie the Ks and the S/O, but if he maintains this consistency from here on out, may be wise to pull him at the 90/95 clip and let the bullies take over.

        1. agreed. i was pretty disappointed in letting him come out for the 9th. seemed like a silly short term, emotion driven manager decision. VV’s arm health has to be priority #1.

          1. Yes, yes, yes. Both Charlie and Ryne Sandberg rode their starting pitchers hard and so did many of their predecessors (Francona rode Schilling like a plough horse – Fregosi had a recently recovered Tommy Greene through a complete game in April in like an 18-1 victory in 1993 – that was Greene’s last good season).

            Now, I get why VV pitched the 9th inning and 113 pitches is a little high, but not crazy. That said, I don’t think I’d like to see him throw more than about 100 or 105 pitches very often. On the big league level, as we sit here today, only Franco and Nola have the kind of value that VV has. They need to treat his arm like the precious asset that it is.

        2. good point. i guess Pete just did it for the record book. I will see Pete to let VV pitch more than 90 pitches soon unless VV will make a bid for a perfect game or no hitter.

          i’m crossing my fingers that VV’s health history will be Hamel’s like — very fragile early in his career then become durable innings eater later on.

    3. It’s funny. You might think, as baseball people get “smarter” in terms of their understanding of value and sabermetrics, that these crazy lopsided trades would stop. LarryM (who I respect immensely) would often scoff at trade one-sided proposals with experienced players on one side and highly regarded prospects on the other side. And, yet, every year it seems, trades happen that just don’t turn out well for one team over time, they appear to be lopsided from the moment they are made. I’m not talking about one-off exceptions; I’m talking about these trades that occur with some regularity.

      So, the question is – why do they continue to happen? There are many possible reasons, but the biggest one that I know of is the pressure to win immediately. This is what caused the Ken Giles trade to be made. Management saw a team just about ready to win and a pressing need (closer) that they felt stood between their current position and a championship. So they pulled the trigger obviously knowing it was an overpay, but justifying it based on need. And, by the way, nothing heightens “need” more than a general manager who is about to lose a job.

      1. I agree with most of your reasoning for “why and how” his kind of trade was made. But I think you left out one or two other components:
        The Phillies targeted a team with a deep farm system, that has some issues trying to manage their 40 man roster. The Astros, like the Redsox in the Kimbrel deal, traded from their perceived excess, and didn’t apply proper value for each piece they paid for the one (1) player they wanted. Because they have so many good prospects, they didn’t properly value what they were giving up. (I actually think the Rangers did the same thing when they gave up Nick Williams. They didn’t value him properly, because they have Mazara, Gallo and Bronson available to play the OF.)

        The other thing that helped make the Giles trade the perfect storm, was Aroldis Chapman’s arrest coming out as news, just as the Astros were trying to acquire him. That artificially raised Giles market value at the perfect time.

        1. Well, I just mentioned one reason, not an exhaustive list of reasons, that bad trades are made and players are undervalued in those trades.

          But you nailed some of the other reasons – and that is that teams who are dealing from a position of strength (whether that strength is depth at a position or the ability to spend money) tend to more easily discard prospects. That is a very risky strategy and it’s a common mistake that really good organizations don’t typically make (and one that really bad organizations, in all sports, commonly make). The second, as you note, is the common supply and demand issue market issue – the scarcity of available closers drove up the asking price for Giles.

          Yet another thing that depresses the value of a player is when the player’s profile is marred by middling statistics that are produced as a result of an early promotion. I would submit that VV would have had more value if the Astros had promoted him to AAA and let him dominate there. Instead, he jumped from AA to the majors and naturally had his share of issues.

          Yet another thing that depresses player value is when the player has tremendous raw ability but has had an off season or is coming off an injury.

          When you look at it, Klentak identified an ideal situation to pull off a heist. Find a team that has a (perceived) pressing need (relief pitcher), has a lot of resources, and is looking for a standout young player (increases value). Trade that player for other players who are talented, but are undervalued because they were injured (Velasquez), were prematurely promoted (Velasquez), had struggled (Appel), or simply had no track record (Eshelman). Pretty damned brilliant if you ask me.

          1. Good point about Velasquez being undervalued due to stats being suppressed from skipping levels last year. He absolutely would have been more highly regarded had he conti continued as a top 100 prospect domininating AAA, instead of struggling as a Major leaguer. We do it all of the time in our top 30’s, where we ding prospects who struggle after being promoted but stay high on guys who stay at the lower level and dominate.

      2. The pressure to win now, and, the belief that the farm system can absorb a big hit and still keep churning out future starters in the pipeline. For years Hou was raking in top prospects but now with their recent success the well may start to dry out a little

      3. Also need to add that Houston no doubt reacted (overreacted?) to the bullpen meltdown in their playoff game. The frustration of losing a game that was in hand can lead a team to overcompensate. In this case, it was to the Phillies benefit.

  3. It’s early It’s early! It’s early !! But take note that the Pharms best hitters are both catchers…and near the bigs…What a change from last year’s beginning.

  4. Brock Stassi has a 0.00 ERA and so does Andrew Bailey. Nice pitching job by Pivetta and not so nice by Thompson. Imhof, also not so nice, with 5 BBs and 4 hits given up in 5 innings. Alexis Rivero giddy-up. Miguel Nunez has been pretty effective with 8 Ks zero BBs in 5 IP. Future closer? Maybe….

  5. nice to see a good performance from Pivetta.
    Is Reading going to face Giolito over the weekend?

  6. Williams and Thompson with growing pains.
    Alfaro ..wow so far.
    Imhof..whats up kid?
    Pujols….strong as bull, hits like bull…but early SSS 45% K rate just will not make it.

  7. So far the stable is looking nice! Lively, Pivetta, Efflin, Eschelman, Appel…. Shame we can only fit 5 on the major league roster. The staff of the phuture might look something like: Groome, Velasquez, Nola, Thompson, Kilome/Efflin. With Eickhoff, lively, pivetta Appel throwing heat out of the pen. Move over mets

    1. And a lineup of Crawford, Knapp(1b), Franco, Alfaro, Williams, Herrera, and hopefully a Stanton type RF we trade prospects for or sign out of Cuba or free agency. Guys I’m getting excited.

    2. Don’t forget Adam Morgan. He’s like a forgotten man, but he can pitch and his velocity has just about returned to pre-surgery levels. I think he could easily end up being somebody’s mid-rotation starter.

      1. Yep! There are several more I didn’t mention either including Medina, Pinto and others. SO.MANY.ARMS. And most of them are 6’4 and taller!

  8. Was at the Reading game in HBG yesterday. A few observations from the game:

    Pivetta obviously looked good. FB was consistent at 93-94 from the wind-up 91-92 from stretch. Saw 1 pitch at 97 and he hit 96 twice. HBG gun seemed fairly accurate since HBG pitcher was 88-89.

    Rios also looked good in relief throwing consistent 93.

    Crawford’s double was hit hard into RF corner and he is a very smooth fielder. Made a nice diving catch of a line-drive up the middle in the 5-6 inning.

    Reports are right about Alfaro’s arm. CS was a real rocket to 2b and he just missed another at 2b. Pivetta didn’t seem to hold runners well because on all 3 SB attempts the runners got big jumps

    Hoskins didn’t hit anything hard except for a long foul-ball to left. His base hit was a little flair to CF.
    Cozens looks bad swinging at some breaking balls from RH pitchers

    Mora’s Hr was a grand-slam hit deep to right-center

    Quinn is definitely fast and looks like a ball player but he didn’t hit anything hard last night.

    I’m not familiar with the Nats system but I didn’t see anyone of the field for HBG who stood out while Reading’s line-up looks strong from top-to-bottom. They should put up some numbers as the weather heats up.

    1. 3up,

      Nice report. Hoskins will start to hit. Quinn quietly has four stolen bases in eight games, a really nice pace. And that’s with a fairly low on base percentage right now.

    1. Good reporting and nice to hear about Pivetta. Another big pitcher with a power arm is ideal.
      He probably knew most of the opposing players since he played with most of them prior to the trade deadline last July, but that shouldn’t really have mattered on the field, other then when he tweets with them from the locker room

    1. He was getting squeezed a bit imo, I know the tv announcers talked about it. Not saying that was the only reason as he did struggle in the first inning in his first outing but I turned the game on after that and he looked good.

  9. What’s the scouting report on Mora? Has he bulked up? Baseball Reference has him at 150 lbs. He has 5 HR with a 997 OPS in his first 45 Reading games after swatting just 2 HR with a 650 OPS in his 169 Clearwater games. How is his defense? Should he be ahead of Valentin or Martinez on the 2B or 3B depth chart, respectively? I saw him on just one preseason top 30 or 50 list, #29 for Philly Baseball Insider. Did they notice something that everybody else missed?

    1. He looked like he was a little bigger than 150 but didn’t appear to have the arm for 3b. We were sitting behind the 3b dugout and the couple of throws he made from near the bag didn’t have a lot of zip to them.

      He did field everything cleanly and seemed to have soft hands.

      1. I saw Mora close up in ST – there is NO WAY he is 150 pounds – more like 175 or 180. And, again, he was one of the most impressive players in ST. I think he was playing 3rd out of necessity, but I think he could play second capably. We need to start taking him seriously.

          1. Thanks for all the insights. Mora doesn’t need an everyday position as long as he gets everyday playing time. And as long as he hits 300 with some walks and some power he’ll get that playing time.

    2. 150 was probably his weight at signing, he’s bigger than that now. He is an average defender at second, his best position. I’ve seen him at SS, 3B, LF, and RF. The ability to at least play multiple positions will help him, but his improved bat is what is catching our attention. The fact that his improvement at Clearwater continues at Reading is impressive.

    3. Mora is a prototypical lower level LA prospect that ends up as a serviceable Bench player or UTIL player that’s why he is not getting the buzz. But I also want the Phils to challenge him some more and maybe he might turn out to be better than Hernandez or Galvis.

      IMO, Kingery is still the future of 2B and Valentin is still a better prospect than Mora – but an under the radar breakout is always a nice story.

    4. Kent,

      I think it’s interesting that Mora’s played the outfield and several infield positions. He’s probably behind Franco, Kingery, Crawford and even Canelo for an infield starting job in the Phillies minds, so maybe he’s already being groomed as a utility player.

  10. At XST yesterday Seranthony Dominguez started and went 3inn,0H,1R,1Wand 3K. Run scored after a walk and advancing to 3rd on 2 GO’s and scoring on a balk. He was 93-94. He was followed Edgar Garcia 3inn,2H,0R,0W and 1K. He was at 92-93. Video of Dominguez at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIXr6jTuJjZm7z9s_YN8BTg. Wont be any video for awhile, a foul ball struck and destroyed my camera!!

  11. Sorry to hear about your camera. Get a price on a new one and send the bill to romus. He is the accountant for this site.

  12. Thompson was reportedly hitting hi 90s last night despite bad line. No worries with him. Good to see Randolph pick up his 1st hit (2rbi double). But more so 3 BBs. Aaron Brown starting to come around as well. Keeping eye on him as breakout player. Tools are there.

  13. If You think aaron brown is aa big league player. I have a nice piece of swamp land for sale. omg the kid is old and stinks. cant hit.

      1. Viagain. but you know I am right he isn’t a prospect anymore. with some exciting youger kids. why do we bring him up???

        1. I am not saying he is an elite prospect, but I would not agree that he is worthless. He was a 2 way player in college. He has a 70 arm in the OF and from what I have read plays good defense too. Maybe 50/60 defense. And he has good raw power too. His stats at clearwater last year were not horrible. And this is his age 23 season, so not sure I would label him “old.” it certainly doesn’t hurt us to have him play in the minors. i can’t see whom he is blocking at clearwater.

      2. I had to give both Rocco and V1 a thumbs up for that hilarious exchange…I agree with them both!

    1. Someone thought he’s worth a look at Reading. Is he just roster filler? Hate to think they wouldn’t put a better prospect if so. Educate me.

        1. Brown’s tools are louder for sure but he needs to get with Donaldson’s hit guru to see if he can figure out how to be more consistent.

        2. Brown has better tools and outperformed Pullin last year. Why wouldn’t he be the one to get the promotion?

        3. Brown was also a lefty pitcher in college with 92,93 mph FB . Only 2 yrs removed he could go back the mound.In spring training Jordan was interviewed and they really Brown as a corner OF.

  14. Ranking areas of organization depth:
    1- starting pitching (don’t think you can qualify relievers since they essentially are arms that don’t cut it as starters with exception of top closers and even they become that later at big league level)
    2- outfield (although we may eventually need to go free agency for big rh bat)
    3- catching (might rank 2nd but position is too tenuous and susceptible to injury or players switch to another position)
    4-infield (left side future looks solid, right side to be determined with several intriguing prospects)
    ….in my opinion.

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