Open Discussion: Week of January 18th

Here’s the open discussion thread for Phillies’ talk and other topics. Another slow week.

The Phillies signed Anthony Vasquez to a minor league contract and came to terms with their three remaining arbitration eligible players – Jeremy Hellickson, Jeanmar Gomez, and Freddy Galvis.

Ten players on the 40-man roster plus Miguelo Gonzalez are under contract for 2016.  The Phillies financial commitment to these players is slightly over $77M.  The remaining 30 players on the 40-man roster will receive close to league minimum (which I think was $507.5K last year).  Cody Ashe’s $517.5K may have been the highest among those 30 players.  If the Phillies avoid signing a middle-tier free agent, their opening day payroll should be well under $100M in 2016.

None of the 5 Phillies’ MLB free agents has signed – Cliff Lee, Aaron Harang, Jerome Wiliams, Chad Billingsley, and Jeff Francoeur.  Other unsigned free agents from the organization include Domonic Brown, Seth Rosin, Kevin Correia, Jordan Danks, Jason Berken, Russ Canzler, Edgar Duran, Brodie Greene, Tyler Henson, Steven Inch, Tyler Pastornicky, Jonathan Pettibone, and Cord Phelps.

Off Season Transactions

  • 1/15 – Jeremy Hellickson avoided arbitration with a $7.0M contract for the 2016 season
  • 1/14 – Jeanmar Gomez avoided arbitration with a $1.4M contract for the 2016 season
  • 1/13 – Freddy Galvis avoided arbitration with a $2.0M contract for the 2016 season
  • 1/12 – RF Christian Marrero assigned to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 1/11 – signed FA LHP Anthony Vasquez to a minor league contract; story here
  • 1/6 – invited non-roster players Mark Appel, J.P. Crawford, Zach Eflin, Andrew Knapp, Gabriel Lino, Logan Moore, Brock Stassi, Jake Thompson, Nick Williams to spring training
  • 1/5 – RHP Mark Appel assigned to Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 1/4 – Signed OF Cedric Hunter to a minor league contract w/invite to ST; story here
  • 12/21 – signed FA OF Christian Marrero
  • 12/18 – traded recently acquired Dan Otero to the Cleveland Indians for cash
  • 12/17 – signed FA RHP Edward Mujica and RHP Andrew Bailey to minor league contracts with invitations to spring training; story here
  • 12/17 – lost recently acquired A.J. Achter to the Angels to a waiver claim
  • 12/14 – invited non-roster players Angelys Nina and Greg Burke to spring training
  • 12/14 – signed free agents catcher J.P. Arencibia , RHP Ernesto Frieri , RHP Gregory Infante to minor league contracts with invitations to spring training
  • 12/12 – Traded Ken Giles and Jonathan Arauz to the Houston Astros for RHP Vincent Velasquez, LHP Brett Oberholtzer, RHP Thomas Eshelman, RHP Mark Appel, and RHP Harold Arauz.
  • 12/12 – Designated RHP Dan Otero for assignment.
  • 12/12 – Designated RHP A.J. Achter for assignment.
  • 12/12 – Traded David Whitehead to the  Pittsburgh Pirates for RHP Charlie Morton.
  • 12/10 – Signed FA RHP Ernesto Frieri to a minor league contract.  Story here.
  • 12/10 – Selected Tyler Goeddel in major league portion of the Rule 5 Draft
  • 12/10 – Selected Daniel Stumpf  in major league portion of the Rule 5 Draft
  • 12/10 – Manaure Martinez selected by the CWS in the AAA portion of the Rule 5 Draft
  • 12/9 – Signed free agent RHP David Hernandez to a 1-year, $3.9M contract.
  • 12/7 – Outrighted Joely Rodriguez to LHV.
  • 12/2 – RHP Greg Burke assigned to LHV.
  • 12/2 – Andres Blanco avoided arbitration with a $1.45M contract for the 2016 season.
  • 12/2 – Peter Bourjos avoided arbitration with a $2.0M contract for the 2016 season.
  • 12/2 – Claimed Peter Bourjos off waivers from St. Louis Cardinals.
  • 12/2 – Miami Marlins claimed Nefi Ogando off waivers.
  • 11/30 – Claimed RHP Michael Mariot off waivers from the Kansas City Royals
  • 11/29 – 2B Angelys Nina assigned to LHV
  • 11/23 – Signed FA RHP Greg Burke to a minor league contract
  • 11/20 – Claimed RHP A.J. Achter off waivers from the Minnesota Twins
  • 11/20 – Selected the contract of Roman Quinn from Reading
  • 11/20 – Selected the contract of Jimmy Cordero from Reading
  • 11/20 – Selected the contract of Edubray Ramos from Reading
  • 11/19 – Signed FA RHP Leonel Aponte to a minor league contract
  • 11/19 – Signed FA 2B Angelys Nina to a minor league contract
  • 11/18 – Signed FA 2B Emmanuel Burriss to a minor league contract w/invite to ST
  • 11/18 – Signed FA RHP Frank Herrmann to a minor league contract w/invite to ST
  • 11/18 – Signed FA 2B Ryan Jackson to a minor league contract w/invite to ST
  • 11/18 – Invited non-roster RHP Chris Leroux to spring training
  • 11/18 – Invited non-roster RHP Reinier Roibal to spring training.
  • 11/14 – Traded RHP Sam McWilliams to Arizona for RHP Jeremy Hellickson
  • 11/12 – Signed FA LHP James Russell to a minor league contract w/invite to ST
  • 11/7 – OF Destin Hood declared free agency (signed w/MIA on 11/12)
  • 11/7 – C Koyie Hill declared free agency (coach for CLW during 2015)
  • 11/7 – RHP Colin Kleven declared free agency (signed with CWS on 11/20)
  • 11/7 – Ethan Martin declared free agency, signed w/ATL
  • 11/7 – RHP Steven Inch declared free agency
  • 11/6 – C Willians Astudillo declared free agency (signed w/ATL on 11/24)
  • 11/6 – RHP Stephen Shackleford declared free agency (signed w/WAS)
  • 11/6 – C Rene Garcia declared free agency (signed w/MIL on 11/19)
  • 11/6 – 2B Brodie Greene declared free agency
  • 11/6 – 3B Cord Phelps declared free agency
  • 11/6 – 2B Tyler Henson declared free agency
  • 11/6 – SS Edgar Duran declared free agency
  • 11/6 – 3B Russ Canzler declared free agency
  • 11/6 – LHP Anthony Vasquez declared free agency
  • 11/6 – RHP Jason Berken declared free agency
  • 11/6 – 2B Tyler Pastornicky declared free agency
  • 11/3 – Claimed RHP Dan Otero off waivers from the Oakland Athletics
  • 11/2 – RHP Jerome Williams elected free agency
  • 11/2 – RHP Chad Billingsley elected free agency
  • 11/2 – RF Jeff Francoeur elected free agency
  • 11/2 – RHP Aaron Harang elected free agency
  • 11/2 – LHP Cliff Lee elected free agency
  • 10/19 – Outrighted Tommy Joseph to LHV
  • 10/19 – Outrighted Kelly Dugan to LHV (declared free agency on 11/6, signed with CHC)
  • 10/19 – Outrighted Domonic Brown to LHV (elected free agency 10/20)
  • 10/19 – Outrighted Brian Bogusevic to LHV (elected free agency 10/20, signed w/Orix Buffaloes (Japan) on 12/10)
  • 10/16 – Signed FA RHP Luis Ramirez to a minor league contract
  • 10/15 – Signed FA LHP Jeff Singer to a minor league contract
  • 10/15 – RHP Kevin Correia elected free agency
  • 10/14 – RHP Seth Rosin elected free agency
  • 10/14 – RHP Dustin McGowan elected free agency, signed w/MIA
  • 10/7 – Outrighted Adam Loewen to LHV (elected free agency on 10/12, signed w/ARI on 10/30)
  • 10/7 – Outrighted Jordan Danks to LHV (declared free agency on 11/6)
  • 10/7 – Outrighted Chase d’Arnaud to LHV (elected free agency on 10/9, signed w/ATL on 11/5)
  • 10/7 – Outrighted Erik Kratz to LHV (elected free agency on 10/9, signed w/SD on 11/8)
  • 10/7 – Outrighted Justin De Fratus to LHV (elected free agency on 10/9, signed w/SEA on 12/2)
  • 10/7 – Outrighted Jonathan Pettibone to LHV (declared free agency on 11/6)
  • 10/5 – RHP Sean O’Sullivan elected free agency, signed w/BOS



40 thoughts on “Open Discussion: Week of January 18th

    1. I miss Kelly Dugan. He always checked all boxes for mediocre prospect: Average tools, Age-to-level, little defensive value/versatility.

    2. It might not come with the Cubs but it wouldn’t surprise me to see Dugan get some ABs at the ML level in the coming years – if he could stay healthy that is. I really wouldn’t mind having him at LV in 2016, but wish him luck

  1. Hey Jim, So what’s the pigs outfield in 16?

    Quinn in center, Nick Williams, ?,?,?


    I know they signed a FA can’t remember his name?

    Sweeney, or does he play mostly 2nd?

    How about Stassi, do you think they try him in the OF? Interesting that they invited him to big league camp.

    Let me know when you see any signs of who is playing where Jim.

    1. Hard to say this early. The LHV OF will depend on who comprises the Phillies’ OF and bench. Assuming 13 pitchers, 2 catchers (Rupp and Ruiz), and 4 starting infielders (Howard, Hernandez, Galvis, Franco) leaves 6 positions for 3 starting outfielders and 3 bench players. If you start Herrera and Bourjos in two OF positions, and pencil Altherr in the third starting slot with rule five pick Goeddel making the roster as an OF, you’ve got 2 spots left. One would have to be Blanco to give some infield depth. The other? Ruf? For a first base platoon? That would leave Asche as the odd outfielder out.

      So, in LHV you have Christian Marrero as the only OF currently on the roster (Note: Marrero hasn’t played at AAA since 2012). Asche (or Ruf), and Cedric Hunter as non-roster invitees vying for playing time. Williams, Pointer, and Perkins ready for promotion from Reading. And then there’s Sweeney.

      Let’s say Williams in CF and 3 of Asche, Marrero, Hunter, Pointer and Perkins making up the rest of the outfielder on the roster. Sweeney at second, but also getting some time in the OF. Stassi at first.

      With Williams getting all the CF reps in LHV, Quinn starts the season in CF at Reading with Cozens, Brown, and Pullin. The OF not making the LHV roster may get squeezed out of the organization.

      I think it’s interesting that our minor leaguers are no longer being blocked by starters on the 25-man roster, with the exception of Franco and Herrera. The prospects’ own progress will dictate when the guys ahead of them are pushed out of their jobs.

  2. Jim as mentioned above, ST is going to be fun this year to see early on any experiments with players at new positions and such.

    Its awesome to see the Phuture Phils playing together.

    SP – Nola, Velasquez, Thompson, Appel, Eflin, Eichoff, ?

    Who are the 7-8 RP who separate from the pack, can guys like Cordero make the jump? How about all the retreads, interested on who you see looking good early.

    INF – Franco, Crawford, 2nd ?, 1st ? Hernandez, Galvis, Sweeney, Ruf, Stassi ?

    OF – Quinn, Herrera, Williams, Goeddel, Altherr, Bourjos…what a track meet.

    C – Knapp, Alfaro, Rupp, Lino, Moore, Arencibia – nice group. I did not realize that Lino was so young????

    I wish I had your job Jim! I should be down sometime near the opening of camp.

  3. Hypothetical Trade scenario:

    The Giants are set at SS and 2B with Crawford and Panik. Their top prospect is 2B, Christian Arroyo. He’s blocked and they will probably trade him eventually. Would the Giants trade him to the Phillies along with Angel Pagan’s 15 million salary for a mid level prospect (Tocci, Canelo or Cozens)?

    1. I’d do it. Good Deal for both teams. I like Arroyo a lot. My guess though is they would see 3B as an option for him should Duffy prove to be Will Middlebrooks.

        1. Ahhhh ok I seen him before wonder if the Phillies were on J Ortiz for awhile. You know sign his bother first Ty Jim .

  4. The Phillies signed Jake Fox, again. Fox was with Lehigh Valley for 2 weeks in 2012 before finishing the final 3 weeks of the season in Reading. He returned to Reading for 2.5 months in 2014. Fox played almost exclusively at 1B in 2012, and split time between the corners in 2014.

  5. Leonel Aponte Phillies signed back on 11/29 he’s a 16 yr old pitcher 6 ” 4″ 144 pds. Makes Tocci look like Hulk Hogan.

  6. Saw where Jordan said he wants Williams to get most of his reps in a corner as that is where he’ll most likely see time when he is called up.

    1. DMAR……I think even thru the Rangers org he was being touted as a corner guy….LFer, since his arm did not play in RF.

  7. Hey Jim.

    I’m headed down to Clearwater in March. Any sign of the minor league Spring Training schedule yet? I know if years past you’ve managed to get it. Had a great time last year watching the Phuture Phillies play the Canadian Youth National Team.

      1. Hope to get to Florida in march. Trying to meet romus in Clearwater for his 75th birthday party. It will be held a lennys. March 16th all welcome

      2. It’s looking like I will be down there with my wife from March 24-27 (she says she’ll watch the minor leaguers – but I doubt she’ll want to do that for more than an hour or two – so I’ll need to hit the facility early). Last year I tried to meet posters here, but it never quite worked out – if I go down, I’ll try to do that again this year. Let me know if you’ll be around during that time.

        But for those who have gone or can go, trust me, you’ll learn a lot about the prospects (especially position prospects) that will stick with you. Last year I was there with my son and we walked by an enclosed cage and some guy was just pounding the ball with a tight short swing that made us both say “wow” – well, it was Rhys Hoskins. Also, last year, it was also clear during BP that Tocci put on a little weight and was hitting the ball much harder than he had before – again, that observation was accurate. And yet another year, I went down and saw both Cozens and Larry Greene. It was blatantly obvious that Cozens had enormous raw power and quite athletic and Greene was just an awful baseball player – both observations were accurate and foreshadowed their development in the organization.

          1. Romus what do you think about Aaron Hill? The D-Backs are obviously going for it and they owe him $12 Million for this season. They want to sign Kendrick but need to move salary….

            You know where I’m going with this right!

            1. I assume stop gap at second and more or less utility guy around the infield.
              Last year on his contract, and to take him off their hands the D-Backs, would also need to add a little more value to the deal.
              Maybe a 2-tier Phillies prospect for a D-Back 1-tier prospect swap or some international money from their pool since they will not be using any over the $300K threshold for a year or two.
              I would be tempted.

            2. Cody Reed is what I’m thinking. they appear to have depth in arms so that would be a nice get for us. We don’t have a lefty in the system that projects as a front line starter. Reed and this years draft would fit that bill.

  8. As of today, Groome is my guy for 1.1 Not just his stuff, but everything that I have read about the quality of kid he is, is going to make it hard for me to want anyone else.

    1. I just want to add in something crazy about Groome, not really about him more so his coach and the way he USED his players or player. When Groome was 15 he played against a team that I coached in the 15 year old Babe Ruth All Star NJ State Tournament. We were the winners of the winners bracket, his team was the winner of the losers bracket, so they had to beat us 2x. Game one Groome shut us down, prob threw close to 100 pitches, if not more (was 89-91 all game, as a 15 year old, my god lol). Guess who the coach put back in game 2? Yup about 2 hours later Groome came back to throw the last 2 innings of the second game. Completely wreck-less of their coach to do this to one of his players.

      Anyways, there is no way he shouldnt be pick 1:1.

    1. He strikes out too much, but does walk plenty. He had a nice year in AAA in 2015 — good OBP, not as much HR power as one would like to see.

    2. He was BA top 50 player before his 21st birthday.
      People have high expectations for Jose Pujols, but he pales when comparing his and Liriano’s progression at the age appropriate levels.

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