PhuturePhillies Reader Top 30 for #19

Franklyn Kilome takes the 18th spot with 68 of 278 votes (24%), outdistancing Andrew Knapp and Victor Arano who each received 37 votes; and Zach Green who received 33 votes..

The selections so far are listed below.

  1. J.P. Crawford
  2. Aaron Nola
  3. Maikel Franco
  4. Roman Quinn
  5. Zach Eflin
  6. Ben Lively
  7. Jesse Biddle
  8. Kelly Dugan
  9. Tom Windle
  10. Yoel Mecias
  11. Deivi Grullon
  12. Matt Imhof
  13. Dylan Cozens
  14. Carlos Tocci
  15. Odubel Herrera
  16. Aaron Altherr
  17. Aaron Brown
  18. Franklyn Kilome

 

Poll #19 is next with no added players.

35 thoughts on “PhuturePhillies Reader Top 30 for #19

  1. Ricardo Pinto. He already has a good fastball-changeup combo with a work-in-progress slider. The fastball can touch 96 and the changeup is above average to plus, so it’s not too hard to see him as a good reliever if the slider doesn’t come along. I think of the guys remaining, he’s the best mix of present skill and future upside.

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  2. Deepest list in a while. This org truly has 30+ big league prospects and should continue to improve, picking in the top 10 for the next 2-3 years. I still think at least half the core of the next great Phillies team is still playing amateur ball, but Crawford, Franco and the pitchers are a good start.

    Valentin should be one of the next 3 picks but I voted Arano here.

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    1. That has been my thought process of late. Every year it feels like there are a ton of upside guys at this point, but this year some of the guys left here have performed well, are young, and have solid scouting reports. It is definitely encouraging.

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  3. Can we really call a guy who has never even sniffed short-season A ball a prospect?? Does anybody else think that’s ridiculous??

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    1. Last year’s poll had a few GCL guys in the top 30 – Grullon, Pujols, Sweaney, and Hernandez. And Encarnacion who didn’t play GCL until this year. Tocci and Hernandez were on the previous year’s poll with nothing but GCL on their resume. That doesn’t necessarily address your question this year, but it shows that it can and does happen.

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      1. Have you ever thought about adding another poll…those 19-years old and under and those 20-years old and older. Or something based on level attainment.

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        1. I always thought it might be interesting to have a top 10 for each affiliate, but that would take way too much time for community polls. Maybe we could come up with some lists on our own.

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    2. I think it is all relative right? First if they are in the minors they are a prospect in some sense.

      if someone saw something in a kid like Gamboa enough to give him $900,000 then I would sure hope he is a prospect right?

      Now you can debate how much of a prospect he is and you can debate how highly valued he would be in the system. So you play the game would I or would I not trade Gamboa right now for say Cord Sandberg; for say Jose Pujols; for say Encarnacion

      Using the information you have available to you today…

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  4. I think a Top 10 for each affiliate would be awesome. Would provide everyone with a more in-depth outlook on what to expect from a player based upon age with physical and mental maturation. Would also help pass the time the rest of this winter!

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    1. I’m against this. I want you all to do some work. I would hope you are looking some of these guys up yourselves before just casting a vote. I hope you are looking at age level and whatever independent scouting reports you can find.

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      1. I don’t think voting on a list would be the way to do this. Maybe have some people post their own lists, and people can debate them a little bit.

        As for “just casting a vote”, I thought that if rankings were focused to within each affiliate, that would cut down on the ceiling/proximity debates we always get into, and the prospect rankings would be less ambiguous.

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        1. Thanks for that plug Romus. I think it needs to be challenged some by a mathematician though.

          I face value I think it is the equivalent to an OPS for pitchers

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  5. Knapp here, then Arano, then Zach Green, then Encarnacion, Pujols, Sandberg, Valentin and Gamboa, with a reconsideration of Ricardo Pinto in there, too. I had Pinto very low before reading Matt’s list and him reminding me how high Fangraphs had Pinto. I kinda think he’ll land just above Gamboa for me. FTR, Larry Greene is #66 on my list.

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  6. I like the idea of a top 10 per affiliate, but in the winter, we don’t know where everyone will be assigned.

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    1. It would have to be based upon where they were last season, sliding new acquisitions over to the comparable level in our system. Perhaps we can do that exercise after the top 30 is finished. I think there is value in trying to assign value across the full system. Some of our teams were very prospect rich, others had few prospects. Being #3 on the list at a level reflects a wide range of prospect quality across our system.

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    1. It seems like some people have a different theory of how the down thumb should be used. Or maybe they thought I was endorsing Ryne Sandberg.

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  7. How great is it to have guys like Sandberg, Hoskins, and Knapp still available in 20s now? Our system has come a long way in a pretty short amount of time.

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  8. Hitters before pitchers when in doubt. Knapp and Green will play everyday. Future catcher and 3rd baseman !!!

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  9. It ‘s nice to have choices again we had a draft filled with college pitchers and some trades now we have pitching depth.Arano for me then Valentin he might be the 2nd baseman of the future. BTW Phillies have cut 46 mil from there payrol,.

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  10. With 2015 looking like its going to be a long year for the big club, I am very excited about tracking the progress of our prospects. When I read about the state of the Phillies farm I often hear “most of their prospects are in the lower levels of the system”. This year could be a big step forward for our system.

    Nola, JPC, Franco, Quinn, Biddle, Eflin, Lively, Windle, J. Rodriguez, and Sev. Gonzalez will all be in the upper levels of the system this season. A couple of these names could very easily see some time on the big club this season. Valentin, Arano, Knapp, and Imhof could also be in the mix by season’s end depending on how the minor league teams are assembled.

    There are a lot of guys who could really break out next season. A guy who does’t get mentioned a lot is Chris Oliver. I’m not sure why he struggled last season, but I’m keeping an eye on him. I’m not sure if he will be able to improve his command and change up to be a SP, but his plus fastball w/ movement and good slider could have him move quickly if he settles in the pen.

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    1. Yeah, I think after this little cluster of guys including Sandberg I am going to start advocating for Oliver. He’s definitely going to be a trendy sleeper pick if he falls outside the Top 25. For me he and Tromp seem like guys who could potentially move very quickly up the lists, though for different reasons.

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