There are 30 picks to be made today, some will be overslot and at slot ($100,000) HS players, some will be guys who will never sign, and then there will be college players picked for their ability to fill a need on an organizational roster. We will keep it updated when we have a chance.
A quick note from Brad – We have our first signing reported by the player on Twitter – It’s 10th Rounder Matt Shortall. No bonus info yet, but bet on saving a $100K plus on that one. Anyway, I’ll be working to get the draft tracker up after we have all 40 picks.
Also Sam McWilliams has signed – Matt
https://twitter.com/SamMcWilliams3/status/475384399799021568
Round 11 – Drew Stankiewicz, SS, Arizona St (JR)
Round 12 – Austin Davis, LHP, Cal State Bakersfield (JR)
Round 13 – Nathan Thornhill, RHP, Texas (SR)
Round 14 – Chase Harris, OF, New Mexico (SR)
Round 15 – Jared Fisher, RHP, Washington (JR)
Round 16 – Calvin Rayburn, RHP, Barry University (SR)
Round 17 – Damek Tomscha, 3B, Auburn (SR)
Round 18 – Sean McHugh, C, Purdue (SR)
Round 19 – Joey Denato, LHP, Indiana (SR)
Round 20 – Derek Campbell, 2B, California (SR)
Round 21 – Tim Zier, 2B, San Diego State (SR)
Round 22 – Ryan Powers, RHP, Miami (OH) (JR)
Round 23 – Joel Fisher, C, Michigan St. (SR)
Round 24 – Preston Packrall, RHP, University of Tampa (SR)
Round 25 – Bryan Sova, RHP, Creighton (SR)
Round 26 – Jacques De Gruy, RHP, Furman (SR)
Round 27 – Scott Harris, LHP, Buena Vista University (JR)
Round 28 – Tanner Kiest, RHP, Chaffey College (J2)
Round 29 – Al Molina, SS, Red Bank Catholic HS (NJ)
Round 30 – Brandon Murray, RHP, Hubert HS (IN)
Round 31 – Shane Gonzales, RHP, Fullerton (Calif.) JC (CA)
Round 32 – Tom Flacco, OF, Eastern HS, Voorhees Township (NJ)
Round 33 – James Harrington, RHP, Mesquite HS, Gilbert (AZ)
Round 34 – Scott Tomassetti, C, Sierra Vista HS, Las Vegas (NV)
Round 35 – Thomas Gamble, OF, Moorestown HS (NJ)
Round 36 – Blake Wiggins, C, Pulaski Academy, Little Rock (AR)
Round 37 – Heath Rogalla, RHP, Oak Park and River HS (IL)
Round 38 – Kollin Schrenk, RHP, Kell HS, Charlotte (NC)
Round 39 – Keenan Eaton, OF, Chaparrell HS (CO)
Round 40 – Jesse Berardi, SS, Commack HS (NY)
Here’s where you hope they take a few fliers on hs guys who really want to take the money
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Here is where the scouts make their money. Well I guess they actually make their money in a number of different places watching games, but you get my drift.
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Who are the bigger name HS guys still available who are realistic sign possibilities?
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we have no way of knowning that without being in the room when the scouts talk to these kids. I can however infer that the first 5 or 6 players on the mlb.com best available list were top 3 round prospects and dropped most likely because they let it be known they weren’t signable.
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Realize this probably belongs on the General Discussion thread, but since this is the one everyone will be looking at today, Jim Salisbury asked Amaro about the whole “Domingo Santana was on the PTBNL list by accident story. He denies it, naturally:
http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/phils-gm-amaro-no-mistake-made-astros-deal?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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I’m kind of surprised that Amaro didnt include Biddle instead of Zeid in the deal at this point.
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When does it start today?
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in about 15 minutes
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round 11. Drew Stankowytz SS Arizona state (last name prob spelled wrong)
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Stankiewicz
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Thought for sure that they would take a high school player
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However, I’m still liking the draft strategy.
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round 12. Austin Davis LHP cal state bakersfield
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Do you think that he will sign?
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@dcwildcat53
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he has a year of eligibility left, but he goes to a small school that isn’t a baseball hotbed, so who knows, its a possibility. Apparently the kid has some decent stuff.
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I hope so. If he signs he could be a steal in the 12th round.
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kid they took in rounf 12 was ruled ineligible in 2013 doesnt say why but has hit 95 and is lefthanded.
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More college guys……Ruben may be going for 39 out of 40!
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from BA infront of the wall Austin Davis, lhp, Cal State Bakersfield (No. 83): A true sleeper, Davis posted a 6.49 ERA as a freshman in 2012 and redshirted in 2013. But the 6-foot-5, 240-pound lefthander showed 91-94 mph heat this fall, along with a promising 79-81 slurve and good feel for a high-70s changeup with fade. His delivery has some rigidity, and he has a lot to prove, but he is ticketed for a slot in Cal State Bakersfield’s weekend rotation this spring. If he succeeds, he could shoot up draft boards, because hulking lefties with his arm strength are tough to find.
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I read he was ruled ineligible for 2013?? is that just mean he redshirted?
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round 13. Nathan thornhill RHP U of texas
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Natgab thornhill almost 23 yrs old , when do we see some younger kids??
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The phillies sure do like pitching. Like a lot
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dorry nathan
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Im wondering if Phils take a shot with someone like Karston Whitson from Flor. A former 1st rounder who hurt his arm 2 yr. ago. Bad numbers last year but I think he’d be worthy of a gamble here.
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whitson went at the end of round 11 to boston
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Oh damn. Sorry
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haha nothing to be sorry about. I had the same thought that he would be a good risk to take at this point.
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round 14. Chase Harris OF U of New Mexico
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Do you think that their going seniors now so they are guaranteed to sign? Then later pick the high schoolers who slid due to signability?
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at this point im not sure of their tactics. I like some of their picks from yesterday, but I figured they would have a couple young kids they had pegged early today. But at this point they either don’t think the young kids are a chance to sign, or they are overcompensating with their draft strategy shift and just don’t want to take any young kids. I guess we will see as the day goes on.
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whitesox took a risk on a kid I liked Montes de Oca, a HS pitcher coming off an injury that started throwing at the end of his season and regained his 94-97 stuff. The question I had was if he was signable, I guess they had a number from him.
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Once you get to round 11 signability doesn’t matter too much. You should get a few premium HS prospects you think you might be able to sign with leftover draft pool money and then work your way through them and hopefully convince one of them to bite.
Quite a few of these ‘tough sign’ HS prospects you see go after round 11 in the old system probably would have went around round 4-9 and then a team just ponied up the overslot money… but since you can’t do that anymore and if you draft a player in let’s say round 4 and their draft pool # is $400,000. If you fail to sign that player you subtract $400,000 from your available draft pool.
So what we see now is teams are huge on pre-draft agreements. They don’t want to ‘waste’ a pick on a player who doesn’t sign because not only do they lose that pick, they lose the money from that pick which can affect the rest of their pool. Better to draft tougher HS signs after round 10 and then try to come up with enough money.
I think the Phils probably could max out with *maybe* a $1m signing bonus for one kid post round-10 depending on if they could Nola for around $3M and save $300k or so there, pay the 5% penalty and then other savings.
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that’s the strategy these days. It really becomes even more dependent on the detailed work and relationships established by our local scouts, and the dispositions and honesty of the kids they are dealing with.
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another 23 yr old college kid ?? why??
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Have you seen clearwater play
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Because we are to the we need to fill out Williamsport portion of the draft
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Because by the time he reaches the big leagues, he’ll be at an age the phillies like. Early thirties.
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There’s gotta be a couple moves coming up soon that are interesting. 3 of these 1st 4 picks are just org. Fillers it seems.
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Im also surprised they haven’t popped a JC kid yet.. they are usually good for 1 or 2 a year.
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I want Keith Weisenberg. He is still available and he is ranked the 2nd best available.
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He is also considered virtually unsignable at this point. He probably wants top 2 round money to even consider, and we didn’t save that much in the first 10 rounds to even tempt him.
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round 15. Jared Fisher RHP U of Washington
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The guy from New Mexico looks pretty promising. Some of the pitchers they have taken the last few rounds don’t appear to have good control.
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and you know how good of a track record the phillies have with helping guys find there command
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round 16. Calvin Rayburn RHP Barry University
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Some of these guys the Phillies drafting are like 5/6/7 years older than players they will (hopefully) be signing come July 2nd.
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hahaha we hope, but with this new draft strategy, who knows? they could decide that they want to only sign 20 year olds on the international market because they have “more experience”
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Seems like they’re really concerned with improving the Threshers asap.
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these guys probably wont go to Clearwater. Even with their college players the phils tend to send them to GCL and Williamsport. Lakewood if they are truly dominant.
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I was mostly joking, but yeah. Still, at this rate they’re not going to have enough room for all of them at W-port. I guess we’ll see more college guys in the GCL than usual and maybe a couple in Lakewood.
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Any bets, Ruben sets the record in a draft for college guys drafted.
The MLB Network would have topic of discussion for sure.
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At this point the Phillies should sign all of their draft picks and we’re thru their 17th round pick. This will probably be something they put out in a blurb “We’re thrilled to have signed all of top-20 round picks and almost our entire draft class. We made a decision to spend and ensure talent gets signed quickly.”
Which people who only read the people or hear what some talking head on tv says will take as “Phillies did allright.” I’m pretty sure there are going to be some HS guys taken eventually, but the Phillies will be able to spin-off their not signing as just being ‘throw-away’ picks.
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round 17. Damek Thomscha 3B Auburn (name sounds familiar? did we draft him before I think?)
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Yep. 50th round in 2010.
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In 2010. He was also drafted in 2011 and 2012.
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yup I was right.. round 50 in 2010
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Damek Tomscha (really old) redraft!!!!!!
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So the Phillies do have a HS draftee… It’s just going to have taken 4 years to actually sign him.
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just pretend he spent 4 years in the VSL
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I think it’s pretty clear by now that phillies weren’t going bpa, just best college player available.
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So what you may say about the Phillies farm talent, they however, will be the most intelligent farm system in baseball.
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Phillies are going to be saving a lot of money on reimbursing college tuition.
“What expenses are covered under the Plan?”
The Club is liable up to the maximum semester allowance for the participant’s cost of tuition, fees, room and board (both housing and meals) and textbooks (not included are computers, calculators or materials other than textbooks) required for the course of study.
Who is responsible for payment of a participant’s Plan expenses?
Generally, the original Club that signed the player will be responsible for the payments under the Plan, even if the player plays for different organizations throughout his career.
Don’t have to worry about paying those pesky rising tuition fees for HS dratees.
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It’s like a guy burned buying dot-coms in 2000 and houses in 2007 has decided to keep all his money under his mattress. Probably better than what he’s been doing…
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round 18. Sean McHugh Catcher Purdue U
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I love the Phillies idea. They can sign all of these college players from rounds 11 to 40 for less than 100k. That won’t count against our money. Then we will have 300k to 400k to spend on High Schoolers.
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yes but in order to sign HS, you have to draft them. And the guys they are taking now wont save any more for them on the draft pool.
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cubs just called a timeout… lots of yelling in the background.. kinda comical cause they turned around and took a college sr anyway
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round 19. Joey Denato LHP University of Indiana
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Absolutely love the Joey DeNato pick.
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I don’t know much about him. what do you know? what do you like?
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He’s undersized, but he was the ace of IU’s pitching (staff). He was amazing in the CWS last year including a CG SO against Louisville. He just pitched very well and got the W against Stanford, although IU lost the series.
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It’s almost like the team is filling out their org. Depth before going for the upside guys here. All these guys drafted today seem like relatively easy signs wo much upside. Only 1 could see being a little challenging is Davis so far.
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There will be no upside guys who are actually signed. The point is to draft them in the early teens, before the other teams draft them. The best and those thought most likely to be signable will be drafted first. When you get into the twenties, you are into a combination of dreck, unsignable and unsignable dreck. If you want a high ceiling HS kid with a reasonable enough probability of success to be worth a large bonus, you take them in rounds 1, 2, or 3 where the pick is protected and there is no harm if they don’t sign. If you want a moderately high ceiling HS kid, whom you may not be able to sign, you load up on several in the low teens and see if you can get one to sign for the $ you have, knowing that if you don’t sign any of them there is no harm done and they didn’t decrease your draft bonus allocation. As you go through the teens to draft the HS kids in decreasing level of interest. Into the twenties and beyond, it’s over.
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you can get lucky with a kid like a Tyler Viza from last year.. but its unlikely at this point.
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Amaro showing that he feels he is on the hot seat. As well he should be. This draft strategy at best buys him a year if one of these guys moves quickly. Long term, this is not how you build a franchise. Lord, am I crazy to see ed wade as being the better gm? At least Sixers and eagles are well run and the town isn’t full of geriatric owners who don’t know a baseball from a basketball.
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Ed Wade is a good GM. IMO above and beyond RAJ by FAR. He built the core that ruled the NL East from 2007-2011. His issue was he never really had the money to do to much so he had to build a team w him farm system. The fruits of his labor showed in that above stretch. The Astros should be decent as well in the near future, a team that Wade built as well.
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round 20. Derek Campbell 2B UC berkley
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Arizona finally took Bukauskas off the board. He sent letters out to all 30 teams letting them know that he is for sure heading to UNC in the fall which is why he lasted outside of the first 2 rounds.
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Mac Marshall another highly ranked prep arm taken by Houston to start round 21… looks like he will be heading to LSU
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Over half way done the draft….. Round 21. Timothy Zier 2B san diego state
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round 22. Ryan Powers RHP MIami of Ohio
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Cubs take Joey Martarano.
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a college pitcher from the U. Whoa
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wrong Miami… hes from the one in Ohio
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This is clearly a) an attempt to improve the systems ranking, and b) the worst draft ever.
All I can say is god bless Sam Hinkie and Chip Kelly and Ronnie Hextall, the phuture of philly…
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Lmao!!! Hexy is going to build a cup contender in Philly?? How is he going to do that w/out being able to trade for all of Philly’s young players? No former Flyer will ever be a decent GM…ever. Was Pat Faloon not available?
(sorry for the off topic but had to be said)
Love that the Phils are trying something different this year btw
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Hextall has at least been outside the organization and is on record saying that advanced stats will be a big part of the front office going forward. So, he’s already ahead of Rube and the Phillies on that front.
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I liked the kid Weigl from juco that the brewers took this round. He has a good arm, reminded me of Kenny giles. I was hoping the phils would take a chance on him.
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Round 23. Joel Fisher Catcher Michigan State
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Sparty yes!!!!!!!
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Cubs took Gilliam this round, Georgia HS OF that was reclassified from junior to Sr late this season and made eligible for the draft. I don’t think he had any major college commitment, would have been a top few round talent that could have been a chance to sign one.
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That’s another guy I was interested in from a previous post. Don’t know how sign able he is at this point but you have to draft him to find out.
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This is ridiculous. Where is the hs upside guy?
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My son played against Gilliam. Raw but clearly a good athlete. He would have been a nice flyer at this point.
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I searched for Anonymous JR in HS box scores but could find nothing. Does he just go by AJ?
(Brad, I’m available if you need a joke writer)
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Phillies are the only team in MLB that hasn’t taken a HS or Juco player on day 3. that’s scary.
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Amaro in panic mode. No regard for the franchise, only is own skin.
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I said the same thing in the 14th round, never thought they would keep up this college picks theme. what the hell is going on, This is just another bad draft by this fo
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Except the last 2 drafts have been pretty good, and I can make a good argument for 2011 as well, especially if Morgan bounces back
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Round 24. Preston Packrall RHP University of Tampa
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Amaro wants wins wherever he can get them…just will be minor league wins
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Round 25. Bryan Sova RHP Creighton U
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I think we can do away with the “just how the board fell” argument by now. This is clearly their strategy this year.
It just seems really…strange.
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I was positive about the strategy yesterday, but I thought they would take a few lottery tickets today to counterbalance. Turns out they haven’t and im really quite disappointed. Especially if a bunch of these other teams end up being able to sign some of their young kids.
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Today makes me more negative about yesterday. Some people were suggesting yesterday was that they were saving money to try to sign some high schoolers today, but it looks like that’s not happening.
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After last years draft, I was so hopeful.
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Is it crazy to assume that some of these college pitchers can become the bullpen that we all know the Phillies need.
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Nope. Not crazy at all.
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Rounds 11 thru 20
PHILLIES – 7 NCAA-SR, 3 NCAA-JR (Avg age: 22.2)
ARI – 2 HS, 5 NCAA-JR, 3 JC (Avg age: 20.6)
ATL – 2 HS, 3 NCAA-SR, 4 NCAA-JR, 1 JC (Avg age: 21.1)
BAL – 3 HS, 1 NCAA-SR, 4 NCAA-JR, 3 JC (Avg age: 20.4)
BOS – 3 HS, 2 NCAA-SR, 4 NCAA-JR, 1 JC (Avg age: 20.5)
CHC – 2 HS, 2 NCAA-SR, 4 NCAA-JR, 2 JC (Avg age: 20.7)
CHW – 1 HS, 6 NCAA-SR, 2 NCAA-JR, 1 NCAA-SO (Avg age: 22.3)
CIN – 4 HS, 5 NCAA-JR, 1 JC (Avg age: 20.3)
CLE – 1 HS, 3 NCAA-JR, 6 JC (Avg age: 20.4)
COL – 4 NCAA-SR, 4 NCAA-JR, 2 JC (Avg age: 21.7)
DET – 2 NCAA-SR, 6 NCAA-JR, 2 JC (Avg age: 21.1)
HOU – 1 HS, 1 NCAA-SR, 4 NCAA-JR, 4 JC (Avg age: 20.8)
K.C – 1 HS, 8 NCAA-JR, 1 JC (Avg age: 21.4)
LAA – 2 NCAA-SR, 7 NCAA-JR, 1 JC (Avg Age:21.5 )
LAD – 1 HS, 5 NCAA-SR, 2 NCAA-JR, 2 JC (Avg age: 21.8)
MIA – 4 HS, 3 NCAA-SR, 3 NCAA-JR (Avg age: 20.6)
MIL – 5 HS, 1 NCAA-SR, 4 NCAA-JR (Avg age: 20.2)
MIN – 2 HS, 2 NCAA-SR, 5 NCAA-JR, 1 JC (Avg age: 21.0)
NYM – 5 HS, 1 NCAA-SR, 4 NCAA-JR (Avg age: 19.8)
NYY – 1 HS, 3 NCAA-SR, 4 NCAA-JR, 1 JC (Avg age: 21.5
OAK – 2 NCAA-SR, 7 NCAA-JR, 1 JC (Avg age: 21.8)
PIT – 1 HS, 6 NCAA-SR, 3 NCAA-JR (Avg age: 21.5)
SDP – 1 HS, 4 NCAA-SR, 5 NCAA-JR (Avg age: 21.7)
SFG – 3 HS, 1 NCAA-SR, 5 NCAA-JR, 1 JC (Avg age: 20.4)
SEA – 2 HS, 7 NCAA-JR, 1 JC (Avg age: 21.0)
STL – 2 HS, 1 NCAA-SR, 3 NCAA-JR, 4 JC (Avg age: 20.4)
TAM – 1 HS, 1 NCAA-SR, 7 NCAA-JR, 1 JC (Avg age: 21.3)
TEX – 4 HS, 4 NCAA-JR, 2 JC (Avg age: 20.2)
TOR – 3 HS, 4 NCAA-SR, 2 NCAA-JR, 1 JC (Avg age: 20.8)
WAS – 2 HS, 1 NCAA-SR, 4 NCAA-JR, 1 NCAA-SO, 2 JC (Avg age: 20.7)
Top 3 oldest: #1) White Sox(22.3), #2) Phillies (22.2), #3) Athletics (21.8)
Top 3 youngest: #1) Mets(19.8), #2/#3) Brewers/Rangers (20.2)
Most NCAA-SR taken: #1) Phillies(7), #2)/#3) Pirates/White Sox(6)
No HS player taken: Phillies, Rockies, Tigers, Angels, Athletics.
No HS player OR Junior College player taken: Phillies.
Only team who in two weeks could legally have all their 11-20 picks sign contracts and celebrate at a bar with a drink: Phillies (Stankiwiecz doesn’t turn 21 for 11 days)
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Maybe this Amaros goal. Not only have the oldest major league team but have the oldest minor league system.
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15 rounds of college Srs to go…. Round 26. Jacques De Gruy RHP Furman U
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Aaron Brown playing now on ESPN U. Playing CF and batting cleanup today. He starts tomorrow.
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im not sure we even have enough minor league roster spots for all of these kids.
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Montgomery: “Ruben, you told me you were putting together a team that could contend for the World Series!”
Amaro: “I meant the College World Series, sir.”
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Ha!
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As I look at this draft I Think we can get a
A Number 2-3 Starter
A Number 4-5 Starter
A setup guy
A power Corner Outfield Right Handed bat
A lottery HS Ticket
At least 4 Relivers
A 4th Outfielder
A couple of defensive replacements
Not a sexy draft but a draft that can bring some stability back to the organization.
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that’s a head in the clouds best case scenario… If we look at drafts through those rose colored glasses, its still weak compared to others.
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Geez just wait and see just because these guys came from college.so did Utley, Cliff lee Ashe, Perkins, Howard etc. If u have Espnu pepperdine is on against tcu.aaron Brown is on he just batted against Finnigan aka 1st rd pick this year .Brown grounded out.
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Why would anyone not be hopeful during or immediately after any draft in any sport? If so called draft experts were right most of the time, they would be drafting for teams, not talking about teams drafting. The fact is, no one is right most of the time when it comes to prospect evaluation or draft strategy.
Roughly 1/4 of all current NFL players were not drafted. The Superbowl winning Seahawks had over 20 undrafted players on their roster this past year. Those are insanely disproportionate numbers when compared to 7 rounds of drafted players for each team.
Bottom line is the Phils are trying a different approach. Yes, it does wreak of desperation, but it’s a far cry from toolsy Zach Collier and the rest of the gaggle of garbage we’ve ended up with over the last decade. We won’t be able to judge this draft for quite a while so relax and just root for these guys.
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The past criticism has mainly been about taking very raw first rounders. I’m fine with Nola, it’s the rest of the draft that bothers me.
I don’t disagree with any pick individually, but it’s the overall strategy I don’t like. It’s too extreme. It’s like investing — you want a balanced portfolio.
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Calling the 27th round: college pitcher
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Round 27. Scott Harris LHP Buena Vista University
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May also indicate they don’t trust the development staff?
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I would agree it is time now to draft some lottery tickets or jc players.
I think we have enough sr pitchers
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I’m actually hoping they go all college from here on out. That would probably set some kind of record.
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Typical Amaro, wheeze kids moniker now applies to the phillies AND their minor league affiliates!
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Round 28. Tanner Kiest RHP Chaffey College…. JJUUCCCCOOOOOOOOOOO
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san diego just drafted Johnny Manziel… so if it doesn’t work out in Cleveland hes got a fall back option I guess
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Round 29. Alfredo Molina SS Redbank Catholic HS in New Jersey
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Hike skool!!!!!!!111111
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Yankees just took Mariano Rivera JR. out of Iona U. I guess that’s fitting.
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boston and St. Louis just took NJ HS kids back to back
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Round 30. Brandon Murray RHP Hobart HS Indiana
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Hey that Chase Harris kid is gonna turn some heads! I watched him play a few times this year. Lead his conference batting .377 in the top three in the conference in every major category. Plays a terrific outfield doesn’t commit errors and super fast
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never a bad thing, thanks for the info! I like when the phils actually target a kid with a present hit tool. Its a nice change from a standout power or speed tool, where we sit and pray that the bat somehow finds the ball.
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id love for them to uncover some Diekman types that flew under the radar because they are from the middle of nowhere and didn’t get in front of many scouts.
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Round 31. Shane Gonzales RHP Fullerton College (JUCO)
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Hah! Shane Gonzalez (Isp?) – JUCO!!!
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Question, are the Phillies linked to any of the top international prospects? I’m not personally sure how the international free agent market is shaping up but I would hope that they would take a stab or two at some of the top international talent this year.
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Not the top tier, but a glove first SS and bat first catcher who should both be in the 500k to a million range
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Phils have a pretty good size international Pool this year, but I haven’t heard any names that they are linked to like we heard Encarnacion last year. The problem is that the Yankees and a few other teams decided to bust their pools this year in anticipation of the International draft and have already agreed with a lot of the top talent on verbal deals.
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Phil’s didn’t spend their allotment last year. Won’t this year either.
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Round 32. Thomas Flacco OF Eastern HS Voorhes NJ… brother of Joe Flacco
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Temple was recruiting him for football for a bit. Pretty cool.
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from what I remember hearing last fall and winter, he didn’t get offered many football scholarships.. just Temple, Delaware, and a 2 sport offer from one of the Carolina schools. Would be great if we could steal him here.
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Played against him in Highschool, good athlete. He played basketball as well
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He going to western Michigan for football.he played ss for the 1st time this year and did very well.
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Round 33. James Harrington RHP Mesquite HS arizona
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Do you think that the high school and juco players that we drafted from rounds 27 to 32 might sign?
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who knows at this point. Its late. They might have an inside track at taking a run at these kids, maybe they know something, or maybe they just cant fit any more college Srs into the minor leagues at this point. JUCO kids always have a shot to be signed. This late, im not confident, but they have saved some money hopefully, so maybe one or two of them get tempted to take the money.
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@dcwildcat53 How much money do you think that we will have left over from the first 10 rounds to use for rounds 11 to 40? I’ll say around 400k? What do you think?
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unless a few of the college JRs really wanna go pro and take a discount ( prob not much either way) I have them probably below the 400k mark, closer to 300k.
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Round 34. Scott Tomasetti Catcher College of Southern Nevada (juco year 3 – don’t see that often)
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drafted by the Phillies in 2011 out of HS, looks like he went to UNLV and then moved down to JUCO
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Redraft?
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Washington finally took Skoug, a good young prep Catcher who I assume is ready to become a horned frog.
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I just scrolled up and realized how much I really hijacked this thread. OH well. You get to deal with me a little longer, I only crawl out of my cave to post regularly a few times a year anyway.
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Love the insight. Keep up the good work.
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Round 35. Thomas Gamble (son of eagles tom gamble) CF Morristown HS NJ
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He will probably sign.
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How much money do you think that we will have left over from the first 10 rounds to use for rounds 11 to 40? I’ll say around 400k? What do you think?
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answered above. That’s just my opinion though, who knows in reality what kind of pre-draft deals they had with these guys.
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Since the Phillies drafted 9 of 10, college guys and the one HS guy already signed, they’ll probably get the full use of their 6.89 million dollar pool. They can go over that figure by 4.9%, so they have at least 340K over what ever they save from the college guys in rounds 1-10.
If they save 300K on the 1st round pick, coupled with the 2 seniors they drafted in rounds 9 and 10, they’ll probably have at least 800K to spend on the HS guys they picked up late.
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Wow. So its possible that we could have 1100k, but we will be taxed. Do you think that Nola will take a pay cut?
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If we had 1100k, I would be so excited. First and foremost, I would sign Austin Davis and Brandon Murray. Hopefully only 250k a piece. Then, I would sign other high school or JUCO players. Hopefully sign 3 or 4 of them for 100k. That would make me happy
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chances of that being the case are slim to none. I doubt nola takes a cut and the Phillies have always been a team to toe the line since Monty and giles are friends of selig, they almost never go above what they are allowed.
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They have gone overslot a ton, they just did it late. A large majority of their prospects over the years have been overslot; Singleton, Cosart, Colvin, Pettibone, Altherr, Brown
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Matt, I meant go over the total pool allotment, which I don’t see them doing. Obviously they have gone overslot on a number of players over the years.
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They went over pool last year. Unlike the international signing period, the over bonus rules for the draft are too draconian for anyone to go over.
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well there ya go… I defer to the man
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B Murray is from Hobart, Indiana
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man! after round 27 its like Amaro and Wolever walked out of the room or something. Nothing but if a run of HS and juco kids.
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Round 36. Blake Wiggins Catcher Polaski Academy HS Arkansas
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Big swinging Power bat with a commit to Arkansas, some think he should be at 3rd not behind the plate.
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How much did the 8th round pick sign for?
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not announced yet im sure. Prob around slot.
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Phillies drafted Wiggins.
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don’t even start with me… freakin cavs.
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dcwildcat…waht do you think?
Maybe MLB should do as the NFL, NBA and NHL do….have limited rounds….say stop at 10 or 15 rounds, the remaining players can be signed as free agents.
The NFL and NBA use the colleges as their minor leagues for the most part, have the colleges do the same for MLB, but also still have the minors leagues ..
And once a college junior ‘declares’ for the draft, like they do in the NFL he most stick by it, and not hold his senior year as leverage vs the pro team, ie Ben Wetzler and Jason Monda from last year.
The 50 round draft from few years ago and now this 40 round just doesn’t seem to worthwhile after abvout 10/15 top picks.
Just my opinion.
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yeah it would involve a complete overhaul of the entire MLB draft and even the minor leagues but I think it would be interesting to think about. I think the way they would have to go is to put an age floor on it and force HS kids into college programs for at least a year. Make kids declare for draft and not go back. It would make college baseball much more competitive and probably much more interesting. Limit it to 15 rounds would be part of it, but if you do that, you need to consolidate the minor leagues because there wouldn’t be enough kids down on the farm to fill all of the teams. So cut it down to 3. Then you also need to incorporate the international kids into it somehow because you would see kids in HS move to latin America so they don’t have to go into the MLB draft. Its a complicated and potentially ugly situation that I don’t see working.
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Yes..that would be an intense draft…..and maybe the possibility of trading top picks.
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Assuming that we have 400k left from the first 10 rounds to use for rounds 11 to 40 would you throw 200k a piece at Austin Davis and Brandon Murray? Or would either only sign for 100k?
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I don’t know enough about these HS picks to know who is signable and who is just a respect pick. I think we might need to throw a bit more than 100k at Davis but who knows.
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Do you think the Phils will go over their allotted money and pay the tax? How much thousands can the Phils go up to, so that they won’t lose their 1st round pick next yr?
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VOR gave a pretty good answer to that above
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up date Sandberg just got ejected his 1st. Finnegan looks like the deal Aaron Brown looks very strong. Very powerful swing.
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Round 37. Heath “rags” Roggala RHP Oak park and river forest HS illinois
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Keith Rogalla
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sorry. im going mostly off of the audio and correcting from the tracker list which just said RAGS
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At some point phillies better start using that money they have from the Comcast deal. thier losing 6 to 5 they had 2 players throw out at home. I want a big time Cuban player or Japanese .
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They did take a shot with MAG…
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Try the veal.
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can only go after a big time Cuban or Japanese player if one becomes available, and there really aren’t any right at the moment. The Cuban players trickling out aren’t worth big money.
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two local ties just went Son of Steve Noworyta just went to KC and a kid from Garnet Valley in Delaware county just went to texas.
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Round 38. Colin Schrenk RHP (son of minor league pitching coach) Ardrey Kell HS North Carolina
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Schrenk’s Twitter bio is updated with #Phillies. Sounds like he’s signing.
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hopefully hes got more in his arm than Coach Nichols’ son (currently back in Clearwater trying to learn a knuckleball to survive)
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Weisenberg finally came off the board to the blue jays, hes headed to college. Giants took benito Santiago Jr. catcher, son of former phil.
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sons of Magglio Ordonez and John Franco go towards the end of round 38
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pretty cool… CF cody Jones of TCU just got drafted by the Indians, hasn’t heard yet since hes up to bat in the super regional.
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Round 39. Keenan Eaton OF Chaparrell HS Colorado
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braves just drafted son of former Phillies pitcher Paul Byrd
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Start of Round 40. last go round.
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Round 40. Jesse Berardi SS Commack HS New York
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dcwildcat…..congratulations…you just broke the record for most post on one thread in Phuture Phillies history…..93.
I guess next year you have record to shoot for.
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Giles called up. Mike Adams on DL
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what do I win? oh a beer? I’ll take it. im just impressed you managed to count them all. (94 woohoo!)
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MattWink Brewery will be sending to you, your favorite brew.
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All we got is a saison that is just about to be bottled, we have been really behind on production
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it will take more than 2 to sign murray. can’t see the phils signing anymore than 1 decent flier. the other ones that are being predicted to sign are the jonathan knight types (no disrespect intended here) and hope he is doing well. but he lasted one and one half seasons.
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