Box Score Recap 9-5-2012

Box Score Recap

Reading with a win in game one of their 5 game series versus Trenton. Fox, Joseph and Castro all went deep, and Hyatt, Knigge and Friend held Trenton to 2 runs on 7 hits.

Last game of the for Williamsport. Cutters finish with a nice start from Jeb Stefan, 1ER, on 3H, 0BB and 6K over 5IP.

REA  WIL

31 thoughts on “Box Score Recap 9-5-2012”

  1. Asche picking bad time to go cold but Joseph seems to be heating up. I am going to game tonight first time seeing May pitch.

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  2. Nice win by Reading. That’s probably all that will get discussed so I thought I’d mention Tromp for a second. He was rather unremarkable at two levels this year but he suddenly came to life in the last 4 games of the season. He hit .412 with 3 multi-hit games. He’s only 18 (until 9/27). The kid from Aruba ended the season on a high. Something to grow on. Now back to our regularly scheduled program….

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  3. Tyler Greene’s K rate is at 38%! I may be wrong on that, but he really needs to do some off-season work on this weakness and his contact abilities.

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  5. All in all, very good 1st season of pro ball for Larry Greene. 22 doubles, shows an ability to take a walk, and a .270 average. I think the Top 5 position prospects are Franco, Quinn, Joseph, Asche, and Greene Jr. Overall top 10 could be split 50-50, pitchers to position guys, which is really great considering the system when the season started.

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  6. Aschee proving the clutch tool is not there

    Hyatt with a decent start and judging by Mike Drago’s tweets Knigge did a good job squashing a potential rally in the 7th. I am voting Perkins for the next Aschee award (College guy who move quickly through the system with a good bat, he needs to stick in the OF though).

    I think that we have seen the abilities that we all thought were there and then some with Quinn and LGJ. Walding had a nice streatch showing he posesses the tools we thought he had and there is no reason to think he is not going to be moved to Lakewood next year.

    The most interesting placements next year will be the GCL kids and that may push a Perkins or Serritella to CLW ala Aschee.

    Let’s all appreciate the influx of talent this year as we basically had 2 draft classes get their pro introductions this season due to the signing date change for draftees. We will most likely never see the quantity of quality players injected into the system like this. Certainly going to be an interesting top 30 discussion this year with all of the projecting that will be necessary.

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    1. My sarcasim tags were removed from the first statement. Again the Aschee statement was sarcasim and a great example of Playoff performances are strickly SSS.

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    2. I agree 100%. It will be interesting to see what the so called experts BA et al will rate the Phillies farm system with the rest of MLb

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    1. This is part of the reason i would like a Phillies TV network as they could show minor league games more regularly. Not sure though how markets determine where they can be viewed. I know Service electric televises the iron Pigs games and there is likely a contract for a certain length that they probably don’t want to give up.

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  8. I am going Friday in Trenton. I am assuming Martin is the one in line to pitch. (Colvin should be done for the year.)

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  9. It looks like MLB.com did a very rough prospect rerank. I don’t agree with much of it especially Colvin and both 3B prospects at the back (haven’t really agreed with many of their rankings) – http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2012/#list=phi
    1. Biddle (Overall #83, LHP #9)
    2. May
    3. Colvin
    4. Joseph (C #10)
    5. LGreene
    6. Aumont
    7. Valle (C #9)
    8. Martin
    9. Watson
    10. Hernandez (2B #6)
    11. Pettibone
    12. Quinn
    13. DeFratus
    14. JRod
    15. Walding
    16. Bonilla
    17. Gueller
    18. Asche
    19. Franco
    20. Ruf (1B #8)

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    1. What does the national guys see in Brody Colvin that pp. people cannot! I can understand if his velo reached 98/99, but he is lacking in other key developmental areas.
      And agree on Franco and Ache. Shrug!

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      1. We have prospect fatigue with Colvin, we see him so much that all we can see is how bad he can be, on the other hand if you just look at the raw stuff you can make the argument that all he has to do is become consistent with his delivery he could at very least be a dominant bullpen arm. The org itself hasn’t given up on him with Benny Looper saying in a recent interview ( http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120906&content_id=37988942&vkey=news_phi&c_id=phi )
        “Colvin, it is what it is. He’s had a tough time with it. I don’t know how to dress it up, other than it’s been a disappointment to him as much as anyone. It’s all about ‘pitchability’ and execution. We’ll try to get him back on track.”

        “Brody is a prospect,” Looper insisted. “The pitches are still there. It’s just the command of it, and I think confidence more than anything.”

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      2. Honestly, IMHO, I see Colvin as being very similar to Ethan Martin. If you remember the write up on Martin when the Phillies acquired him, he was a very solid pitcher as seen by the fact he was drafted in the 1st round by the Dodgers, but his consistency with being able to control pitches was in question. Very similar to Colvin, in my opinion I think the National guys see things the right way here, he has the makings of a very good pitcher if he can control his pitches. We have watched box scores and some have witnessed him in person, when he has his pitches working he’s very dominant, when he’s missing his spots he’s wild or uneffective as he gets hit around. He’s straight out of high school and not every high school pitcher becomes acclimated right away. Jesse Biddle in my opinion is the exception to that rule in the Phillies farm system.

        We’ve seen Trevor May struggle with command and effectiveness, same with Colvin and Rodriguez. Some guys are raw pitchers like May and Colvin and others like Biddle, Pettibone, and Rodriguez know how to pitch around the plate and are more polished in that respect, power arms develop differently sometimes. I think everyone on this board lives or dies with player box scores on a daily basis. Again just my opinion I’m sure someone will have a smart@$$ remark to it but it’s a fair assessment, Philly fans are hard on their players because we expect the best and sometimes don’t receive it.

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        1. I am not a big stats and comp guy, so can someone give me a successful MLB pitcher who has had similar stats thru-out his minor league develpment as Brody Colvin? SOme type of ceiling. I need a reason to be optimistic at this point with him.

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          1. Slightly different but the guy that pops to mind is Brandon Morrow, the ERA isn’t as bad but look at the BB/9 in both the majors and minors. Looking more into the stats it isn’t terribly uncommon especially on larger pitchers that they have stats like this, also if you look at relievers I bet you will find many stat lines like this as well (go look up Daniel Bard’s 2007 season it will make you think Colvin is amazing).

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            1. Thanks Matt….I am gaining the optimism back again. I would be happy with a Brendon Morrow career fro Brody in Philly pinstripes. Either his early career as a relief pitcher with the Ms or the Jays as a starter.

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    2. Are you sure they didn’t just slide the guys we got via trades into the pre-existing list from the beginning of the season?

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      1. They announced they redid the list, they added draft guys and moved players around, this is new as of today. I hope their are some errors it just feels off.

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        1. Joseph is ahead of Valle in org top 20 and behind him in positional top 10. So something isn’t right. They even mentioned he will probably stick behind the plate, so I don’t think it’s a lowering among positionals because he’s less likely to stay behind the plate, though maybe that’s part of it.

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    3. It’s kind of a scattershot ranking and not a very careful one at that. I don’t think there’s any real justification to having JRod in the top 20 anymore. Asche and Franco are way too low and where’s Morgan?

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  10. As much as I want Reading to win in the playoffs, it is only delaying Ruf from being called up. It would be nice if he can get as much playing time of the 3 1/2 weeks remaining on the Phillies schedule

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  11. I attended last night’s season finale of the Williamsport Crosscutters. Here are my thoughts:

    The MVP for the team as voted on by the manager, coaches and players was Chris Serritella. I was surprised that it was not Roman Quinn.

    Most of the Cutter batters are free swingers (hackers) as they do not tend to take a lot of pitches in any at bats.

    I could not believe how small Roman Quinn is. Then I was even more surprised at how much power he has. On the first pitch of the game batting lefthanded, he banged a ball the opposite way over 365 feet to the wall in left. The outfielder made the catch banging into the wall. In his third at bat in the 4th inning, again batting lefthanded, he hit a ball the other way about 380 feet to the warning track in left centerfield. As he is just learning to hit lefthanded this was quite impressive. While he does have power he has no discipline at the plate. He swung at everything. In 5 at bats, he saw a grand total of 9 pitches.

    This is the outline of his 5 at bats:
    1st inning 1st at bat – swung at 1st pitch – hit it to wall in left
    3rd inning 2nd at bat – hit by pitch on a 1-1 count
    3rd inning 3rd at bat – swung at 1st pitch – hit it to warning track in left centerfield
    6th inning 4th at bat – swung at 1st pitch – batting righthanded hit a grounder right at ss came within a whisker of beating it out
    7th inning 5th at bat – batting righthanded – struck out swinging on 3 pitches (he swung at all 3 pitches) but reached 1st base when the catcher let the ball get about 6 or 7 feet from him – there were runners on 1st and 2nd and 2 outs – the catcher did not even look to 1st to throw out Quinn he looked to 2nd first then to 3rd and started to throw to 3rd to get the out but he held up

    As you can tell from this write-up, Quinn has unbelievable speed. When he was hit by the pitch in the 3rd, the pitcher threw over to 1st 3 or 4 times in a row. On the first pitch to the plate Quinn stole 2nd without a throw.

    As a fielder there were 5 balls hit to Quinn. He made one great play going to his right and backhanding the ball in the hole. His throw to first was an adventure as he bounced the ball in the dirt and the 1st baseman made a nice pick to record the out. The other 4 plays he had were more routine. He has a strong arm but it is very erratic. He bounced two throws in the dirt and had two very high throws. He had only one chest high throw to the 1st baseman. The 1st baseman did a very good job of bailing Quinn out on the other throws.

    I was also surprised at Larry Greene physique. I expected him to be heavier than he was. I would say he had a more chiseled appearance. He would swing out of his shoes on the 1st and 2nd strikes of some of his at bats but appeared to have a nice controlled approach when he had 2 strikes on him.

    Larry Greene took a lot of balls in most of his at bats. He saw 20 pitches in 5 at bats.
    1st at bat – he hit a line drive to the centerfield wall for a double on a 2-0 count
    2nd at bat – he hit a ground ball up the middle to cf for a single on a 2-0 count
    3rd at bat – he hit a fly ball to leftfield on a 3-2 count after swinging out of his shoes on the 1st 2 strikes and fouling a couple off
    4th at bat – struck out on 3 pitches – swung out of his shoes on the first 2 strikes
    5th at bar – grounded out to ss on a 1-1 pitch

    Tyler Greene had four at bats. He saw 16 pitches in 4 at bats.
    1st at bat – fly ball to the warning track in left centerfield (385 ft) on a 1-0 count
    2nd at bat – line drive double down the leftfield line on a 0-1 count
    3rd at bat – struck out on a 3-2 count
    4th at bat – struck out on a 3-2 count

    Tyler Greene made an error on the first ball hit to him. The ball was hit right at him and he picked up to early and the ball went right thru the wickets. There were three other balls hit to him and he showed nice range and good athletic moves on them and made the good to great plays on those balls.

    Mitch Walding had 4 at bats. He saw 15 pitches in 4 at bats
    1st at bat – singles on a bunt – it was the first pitch of the at bat
    2nd at bat – walked on a 3-0 count
    3rd at bat – walked on a 3-2 count
    4th at bat – walked on a 3-0 count

    Walding only had two plays fielding. He made a great leaping catch on a ball that was going to be a line drive double to the left field corner and he fielded a routine grounder ok.

    Perkins’ day at the plate He saw 9 pitches in 5 at bats
    1st at bat – grounded out to 3rd on a 2-1 count
    2nd at bat – line drive double down the left field line on a 0-1 count
    3rd at bat – grounded out to 2nd on a 0-0 count
    4th at bat – singled to cf on a 0-0 count
    5th at bat – flied out to rf on a 0-0 count

    Serritella’s day at the plate He saw 14 pitches in 5 at bats
    1st at bat – fly ball to rf on a 0-1 count
    2nd at bat – single on a ground ball to cf on a 0-0 count
    3rd at bat – single on a ground ball to rf on a 2-1 count
    4th at bat – flied out to cf on a 2-1 count
    5th at bat – struck out on a 0-2 count

    Some of the comments of the Williamsport radio announcer during the game. When Larry Greene was swinging out of his shoes on the first two strike of a couple of at bats, the announcer commented that Larry Greene was somewhat disappointed that he had only 2 Home Runs since he felt that he should have hit at least 5. Larry further stated that he had had a good year otherwise. The announcer felt that that was the reason he was swinging so hard. It seemed to him to be out of context for Larry Greene to swing that hard.

    The announcer also commented on the unbelievable rate that Roman Quinn was scoring at when he reached base. He mentioned that Quinn’s speed was a factor but even more important was the 3 batters behind Quinn. Serritella was leading the NY-Penn league in doubles and rbi’s and hitting over .300. Perkins was second in the league in doubles and fifth in rbi’s and also hitting over .300. Larry Greene was third in the league in doubles and hitting .275.

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      1. I could see that as well, although I’d have no problem with a level-to-level approach

        2013: Lakewood
        2014: Clearwater
        2015: Reading
        2016: Lehigh/MLB

        Jimmy’s contract isn’t officially up until after 2015 (since the option will best baring something disastrous for him). They have the leeway to be patient with him although he could always force their hand to move him up the ladder.

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