Kevin Walter takes the last spot in the 2011 Reader Top 30, edging out Scott Mathieson. This concludes the 2011 edition, which was an improvement over last years, which was an improvement over 2008’s version. Thank you to everyone who participated and voted, and for providing plenty of feedback and conversation along the way. Now that we’ve come up with a community list, I’ll give everyone a chance to submit their own personal top 30’s, which I’ll then catalog on a new page at the top of the site for reference. Check below the fold for more.
The community list.
1. Domonic Brown, OF
2. Jon Singleton, OF
3. Jarred Cosart, RHP
4. Brody Colvin, RHP
5. Trevor May, RHP
6. Sebastian Valle, C
7. Vance Worley, RHP
8. Jesse Biddle, LHP
9. Tyson Gillies, OF
10. Justin De Fratus, RHP
11. Jiwan James, OF
12. Julio Rodriguez, RHP
13. Domingo Santana, OF
14. Aaron Altherr, OF
15. Phillippe Aumont, RHP
16. JC Ramirez, RHP
17. Matt Rizzotti, 1B
18. Jon Pettibone, RHP
19. Austin Hyatt, RHP
20. Cesar Hernandez, 2B
21. Harold Garcia, 2B
22. Kelly Dugan, OF
23. Michael Schwimer, RHP
24. Colby Shreve, RHP
25. Freddy Galvis, SS
26. Josh Zeid, RHP
27. Leandro Castro, OF
28. Perci Garner, RHP
29. Cameron Rupp, C
30. Kevin Walter, RHP
You can submit your lists in the comments section of this post, and I will take all of them and then copy/paste them. Please use the following format when submitting your list. You can just copy/paste. “display name” should be self explanatory…if you’re a regular commenter here, use that name. If you regularly leave anonymous comments, give me something I can attach to your list. Thanks.
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gkit:
1 Domonic Brown
2 Jared Cosart
3 Brody Colvin
4 Jon Singleton
5 Trevor May
6 Sebastion Valle
7 Jesse Biddle
8 Aaron Altherr
9 Jiwan James
10 Julio Rodriguez
11 Domingo Santana
12 Harold Garcia
13 Justin DeFratus
14 Cesar Hernandez
15 J.C. Ramirez
16 Tyson Gillies
17 Vance Worley
18 Phillippe Aumont
19 Jon Pettibone
20 Perci Garner
21 Austin Hyatt
22 Michael Schwimer
23 Josh Zeid
24 Matt Rizzotti
25 Fred Galvis
26 Mike Stutes
27 Leandro Castro
28 Kevin Walter
29 Miguel Alvarez
30 Kelly Dugan
1.Domonic Brown
2. Brody colvin
3.jon singleton
4. jiwan james
5.Trevor May
6. jarred cosart
7. Aaron Altherr
8.Tyson Gillies
9.Jesse Biddle
10. Domingo Santana
11.Sebastian Valle
12.Cesar Hernandez
13.Harold Garcia
14.matt rizzotti
15,Justin DeFratus
16.Vance Worley
17.Julio Rodriguez
18.philippe aumont
19.Kelly Dugan
20. Nick Hernandez
21.Cameron rupp
22.Freddy galvis
23.Jonathan pettibone
24.Ky Hudson
25.Leandro Castro
26.Austin Hyatt
27. jc ramirez
28. matt way
29. darin ruf
30 anthony hewitt
Dcwildcat53
01. Dominic Brown
02. Jon Singleton
03. Jared Cosart
04. Brody Colvin
05. Trevor May
06. Sebastian Valle
07. Jesse Biddle
08. Tyson Gillies
09. Jiwan James
10. Aaron Altherr
11. Domingo Santana
12. Vance Worley
13. JC Ramirez
14. Cesar Hernandez
15. Jon Pettibone
16. Justin DeFratus
17. Julio Rodriguez
18. Phillipe Aumont
19. Kelly Dugan
20. Colby Shreve
21. Harold Garcia
22. Leandro Castro
23. Kevin Walter
24. Perci Garner
25. Austin Hyatt
26. Gauntlett Eldemire
27. Brian Pointer
28. Jon Musser
29. Miguel Alvarez
30. Zach Collier
1. Dominic brown
2. Brody colvin
3. Jon singleton
4. Kelly Dugan
5. Jiwan James
6. Matt rizzoTti
7. Tyson gillies
8. Domingo Santana
9. Jiwan James
10. Jesse Biddle
11. Jared cosart
12.Ky. Hudson
13.Freddy galvis
14.Vance worley
15. Trevor may
16.Austin hyatt
17.Aron alther
18. Justin defrauts
19.Julio Rodriguez
20. Nick Hernandez
21.Cesar Hernandez
22.Anthony Hewitt
23. Cameron rupp
24.Tag BoziEd
25.philippe aumont
26.Josh zied
27. Drain Ruf
28. Jonathan pettibone
29. Sebastian Valle I forgot to put him up around 7
30.Matt way
display name: Jim Kaat
01.Domonic Brown
02.Jon Singleton
03.Jesse Biddle
04.Trevor May
05.Sebastian Valle
06.Jared Cosart
07.Brody Colvin
08.Tyler Gillies
09.Kelly Dugan
10.Vance Worley
11.Harold Garcia
12.Jiwan James
13.Domingo Santana
14.Aaron Altherr
15.Cameron Rupp
16.Colby Shreve
17.Juan Ramirez
18.Terrance Warren
19.Justin DeFratus
20.Cesar Hernandez
21.Gaunlett Eldemire
22.Julio Rodriguez
23.Matt Way
24.Matt Rizzotti
25.Freddy Galvis
26.Philippe Aumont
27.Percy Garner
28.Joe Savery
29.Nick Hernandez
30.Austin Hyatt
Why no love for cosart and colvin, and so much love for biddle?
Terrence (T.J.) Warren was released a couple of years back.
kphilly:
1. Domonic Brown
2. Jonathan Singleton
3. Jared Cosart
4. Brody Colvin
5. Trevor May
6. Sebastian Valle
7. Jesse Biddle
8. Tyson Gillies
9. Vance Worley
10 Justin DeFratus
11. Jiwan James
12. Cesar Hernandez
13. Domingo Santana
14. Julio Rodriguez
15. Aaron Altherr
16. JC Ramirez
17. Phillipe Aumont
18. Jon Pettibone
19. Harold Garcia
20. Austin Hyatt
21. Mike Schwimer
22. Freddie Galvis
23. Leandro Castro
24. Mike Rizzoti
25. Josh Zeid
26. Colby Shreve
27. Kelly Dugan
28. Perci Garner
29. Cameron Rupp
30. Mike Stutes
I’m expecting big things from #8 Tyson Gillies on my list…I’m hoping .300 batting average 40 sbs…I pick DeFratus high at #10 as I believe he builds off last yr and ends up in Philly during the summer. At first I didn’t have C.Hernandez that high but I have read many good things about him.
Jiwan James I believe continue to improve…280 and 40 sbs. Watch out for Josh Zeid out of the bullpen in Reading. Other guys not in my #30 who could be by July; Eldemire, Collier, Franco, N.Hernandez, and Way.
Joey0210:
1. Domonic Brown
2. Jonathan Singleton
3. Jarred Cosart
4. Brody Colvin
5. Sebastian Valle
6. Trevor May
7. Jesse Biddle
8. Tyson Gillies
9. Jiwan James
10. Justin DeFratus
11. Julio Rodriguez
12. Domingo Santana
13. Aaron Altherr
14. Cesar Hernandez
15. Phillippe Aumont
16. J.C. Ramirez
17. Vance Worley
18. Austin Hyatt
19. Jon Pettibone
20. Matt Rizzotti
21. Harold Garcia
22. Colby Shreve
23. Freddy Galvis
24. Leandro Castro
25. Kelly Dugan
26. Mike Schwimer
27. Josh Zeid
28. Perci Garner
29. Cameron Rupp
30. Kevin Walter
display name: bluethree
01. Domonic Brown
02. Jon Singleton
03. Brody Colvin
04. Jared Cosart
05. Trevor May
06. Sebastian Valle
07. Jesse Biddle
08. Domingo Santana
09. Aaron Altherr
10. Cesar Hernandez
11. Vance Worley
12. Julio Rodriguez
13. Justin De Fratus
14. Jiwan James
15. Tyson Gillies
16. JC Ramirez
17. Josh Zeid
18. Freddy Galvis
19. Leandro Castro
20. Matt Rizzotti
21. Harold Garcia
22. Austin Hyatt
23. Perci Garner
24. Kelly Dugan
25. Philippe Aumont
26. Kevin Walter
27. Gauntlett Eldemire
28. Jonathan Musser
29. Zach Collier
30. Brian Pointer
Bellman:
01. Dominic Brown, OF
02. Jared Cosart, RHP
03. Jon Singleton, 1B
04. Trevor May, RHP
05. Brody Colvin, RHP
06. Sebastian Valle, C
07. Vance Worley, RHP
08. Jiwan James, OF
09. Domingo Santana, OF
10. Aaron Altherr. OF
11. Tyson Gillies, OF
12. Jesse Biddle, LHP
13. Harold Garcia, 2B
14. Justin De Fratus, LHP
15. Julio Rodriguez, RHP
16. Cesar Hernandez, 2B
17. JC Ramirez, RHP
18. Colby Shreve, RHP
19. Phillippe Aumont, RHP
20. Matthew Rizzotti, 1B
21. Jon Pettibone, RHP
22. Leandro Castro, OF
23. Austin Hyatt, RHP
24. Freddy Galvis, SS
25. Joshua Zeid, RHP
26. Kelly Dugan, OF
27. Nick Hernandez, LHP
28. Mario Hollands, LHP
29. Michael Schwimer, RHP
30. Eric Pettis, RHP
mike77:
01. Brown
02. Cosart
03. Singleton
04. Colvin
05. May
06. Biddle
07. Valle
08. James
09. Altherr
10. J Rodriguez
11. Worley
12. C Hernandez
13. Santana
14. JC Ramirez
15. Gillies
16. DeFratus
17. Aumont
18. H Garcia
19. Castro
20. Dugan
21. Alvarez
22. Pettibone
23. Schwimer
24. Garner
25. Walter
26. Nunez
27. Franco
28. Rupp
29. Zeid
30. Hyatt
continued…
31. Shreve
32. Galvis
33. Naylor
34. Rizzotti
35. Hollands (sleeper pitchers)
36. Marlon Mitchell (sleeper hitters)
37. Pointer
38. Eldemire
39. Musser
40. Anderson Gonzalez
41. Lino Martinez
42. Chace Numata
43. D Buchanan
44. Fransisco Silva
45. Z Collier
I like Marlon Mitchell as well, he almost snuck into the end of my list.
Alan
01. Domonic Brown
02. Jonathan Singleton
03. Jarred Cosart
04. Brody Colvin
05. Trevor May
06. Sebastian Valle
07. Jiwan James
08. Jesse Biddle
09. Cesar Hernandez
10. Domingo Santana
11. Vance Worley
12. Tyson Gillies
13. Aaron Altherr
14. Justin De Fratus
15. Leandro Castro
16. Scott Mathieson
17. Phillippe Aumont
18. Julio Rodriguez
19. J.C. Ramirez
20. Harold Garcia
21. Kelly Dugan
22. Austin Hyatt
23. Matt Rizzotti
24. Freddy Galvis
25. Colby Shreve
26. Miguel Nunez
27. Percy Garner
28. Jonathan Pettibone
29. Joshua Zeid
30. Cameron Rupp
I moved Garner onto my list and Miguel Alvarez off.
Oh, I had Antonio Bastardo 14b if you consider him eligible.
display name: Puko
01.Domonic Brown
02.Jarred Cosart
03.Jon Singleton
04.Brody Colvin
05.Trevor May
06.Jesse Biddle
07.Sebastian Valle
08.Aaron Altherr
09.Vance Worley
10.Jiwan James
11.Tyson Gillies
12.Domingo Santana
13.Justin DeFratus
14.J.C. Ramirez
15.Cesar Hernandez
16.Phillippe Aumont
17.Jon Pettibone
18.Matt Rizzotti
19.Harold Garcia
20.Julio Rodriguez
21.Austin Hyatt
22.Perci Garner
23.Josh Zeid
24.Michael Schwimer
25.Leandro Castro
26.Kevin Walter
27.Mario Hollands
28.Cameron Rupp
29.Kelly Dugan
30.Gauntlett Eldemire
B in DC:
01. Brown
02. Singleton
03. Colvin
04. Cosart
05. May
06. Gillies
07. Valle
08. Biddle
09. Santana
10. DeFratus
11. James
12. Rodriguez
13. Altherr
14. Pettibone
15. Garcia
16. Aumont
17. Worley
18. Rizzotti
19. Hernandez
20. Ramirez
21. Hyatt
22. Dugan
23. Galvis
24. Garner
25. Castro
26. Mathieson
27. Zeid
28. Walter
29. Rupp
30. Pettis
DPhrey
1 Domonic Brown
2 Brody Colvin
3 Jonathan Singleton
4 Jarred Cosart
5 Trevor May
6 Sebastian Valle
7 Jesse Biddle
8 Vance Worley
9 Justin De Fratus
10 Cesar Hernandez
11 Julio Rodriguez
12 Aaron Altherr
13 Domingo Santana
14 Tyson Gillies
15 Harold Garcia
16 J.C. Ramirez
17 Jiwan James
18 Jonathan Pettibone
19 Leandro Castro
20 Colby Shreve
21 Michael Schwimer
22 Austin Hyatt
23 Phillippe Aumont
24 Matthew Rizzotti
25 Kelly Dugan
26 Joshua Zeid
27 Kevin Walter
28 Maikel Franco
29 Percy Garner
30 Anderson Gonzalez
Interesting… Anderson Gonzalez? A $300K Venezuelan SS. Do you think this is the next Villar?
I had Gonzalez in the 30s on my list.
Got conflicting reports when he signed. Phillies staff hyped his bat. Baseball America hyped his glove, but questioned whether he would hit.
Either way, 300k (3rd round money) for a 15 year old means they think he is good.
I always take a flyer in the #30 spot. The Phils paid him a lot of money, and they have had some recent success with middle infielders from Latin America.
Boston Phan:
01. Dominic Brown
02. Jonathan Singleton
03. Brody Colvin
04. Jarred Cosart
05. Trevor May
06. Vance Worley
07. Tyson Gillies
08. Sebastian Valle
09. Jesse Biddle
10. Jiwan James
11. Julio Rodriguez
12. Aaron Altherr
13. Domingo Santana
14. JC Ramirez
15. Freddy Galvis
16. Justin DeFratus
17. Matt Rizzotti
18. Carlos Hernandez
19. Harold Garcia
20. Leandro Castro
21. Jonathan Pettibone
22. Austin Hyatt
23. Philippe Aumont
24. Josh Zeid
25. Perci Garner
26. Colby Shreve
27. Miguel Nunez
28. Kevin Walter
29. Nick Hernandez
30. Michael Schwimer
I would have had Mathieson and Bastardo 13 and 14 on my list if I had thought to include them.
Section 113:
1. Domonic Brown
2. Jon Singleton
3. Brody Colvin
4. Jared Cosart
5. Trevor May
6. Sebastion Valle
7. Jesse Biddle
8. Vance Worley
9. Tyson Gillies
10. Justin DeFratus
11. Jiwan James
12. Domingo Santana
13. Austin Hyatt
14. Julio Rodriguez
15. Aaron Altherr
16. Harold Garcia
17. Cesar Hernandez
18. Jon Pettibone
19. J.C. Ramirez
20. Matt Rizzotti
21. Leandro Castro
22. Michael Schwimer
23. Josh Zeid
24. Nick Hernandez
25. Jeremy Barnes
26. Colby Shreve
27. Freddy Galvis
28. Phillippe Aumont
29. Mike Stutes
30. Kelly Dugan
Murray
1 Brown
2 Singleton
3 Cosart
4 Colvin
5 May
6 Valle
7 Biddle
8 Worley
9 Gillies
10 DeFratus
11 James
12 Altherr
13 Santana
14 Julio Rodriquez
15 Pettibone
16 Harold Garcia
17 Cesar Hernandez
18 Hyatt
19 Shreve
20 Castro
21 Aumont
22 JC Ramirez
23 Zeid
24 Galvis
25 Rizzotti
26 Garner
27 Eldmire
28 Dugan
29 Nick Hernandez
30 Kevin Walter
1. Domonic Brown
2. Jon Singleton
3. Trevor May
4. Jarred Cosart
5. Brody Colvin
6. Sebastian Valle
7. Jiwan James
8. Vance Worley
9. Jesse Biddle
10. Scott Mathieson
11. Justin De Fratus
12. Aaron Altherr
13. Harold Garcia
14. Tyson Gillies
15. Domingo Santana
16. Julio Rodriguez
17. Phillippe Aumont
18. J C Ramirez
19. Michael Schwimer
20. Kelly Dugan
21. Freddy Galvis
22. Andrew Carpenter
23. Matt Rizzotti
24. Cesar Hernandez
25. Jon Pettibone
26. Austin Hyatt
27. Nick Hernandez
28. Josh Zeid
29. Mike Stutes
30. Leandro Castro
31. Cameron Rupp
32. Colby Shreve
33. Perci Garner
34. Matt Way
35. Eric Pettis
36. Gauntlett Eldemire
37. Zack Collier
38. Kevin Walter
39. Maikel Franco
40. Bryan Morgado
41. Mario Hollands
42. Jonathan Musser
43. Miguel Alvarez
44. Cody Overbeck
45. Brian Pointer
46. Derrick Mitchell
47. Ebelin Lugo
48. Drew Naylor
49. Michael Martinez
50. Carlos Rivera
display name – NEPA Philly
1. Domonic Brown
2. Jon Singleton
3. Trevor May
4. Jarred Cosart
5. Brody Colvin
6. Sebastian Valle
7. Jiwan James
8. Vance Worley
9. Jesse Biddle
10. Scott Mathieson
11. Justin De Fratus
12. Aaron Altherr
13. Harold Garcia
14. Tyson Gillies
15. Domingo Santana
16. Julio Rodriguez
17. Phillippe Aumont
18. J C Ramirez
19. Michael Schwimer
20. Kelly Dugan
21. Freddy Galvis
22. Andrew Carpenter
23. Matt Rizzotti
24. Cesar Hernandez
25. Jon Pettibone
26. Austin Hyatt
27. Nick Hernandez
28. Josh Zeid
29. Mike Stutes
30. Leandro Castro
31. Cameron Rupp
32. Colby Shreve
33. Perci Garner
34. Matt Way
35. Eric Pettis
36. Gauntlett Eldemire
37. Zack Collier
38. Kevin Walter
39. Maikel Franco
40. Bryan Morgado
41. Mario Hollands
42. Jonathan Musser
43. Miguel Alvarez
44. Cody Overbeck
45. Brian Pointer
46. Derrick Mitchell
47. Ebelin Lugo
48. Drew Naylor
49. Michael Martinez
50. Carlos Rivera
Somebodys a showoff… lol
Ken45:
01. Domonic Brown
02. Vance Worley
03. Jonathan Singleton
04. Sebastian Valle
05. Trevor May
06. Jarred Cosart
07. Brody Colvin
08. Julio Rodriguez
09. Jesse Biddle
10. Justin DeFratus
11. Domingo Santana
12. Tyson Gillies
13. Austin Hyatt
14. Freddy Galvis
15. Cesar Hernandez
16. Aaron Altherr
17. Michael Schwimer
18. Leandro Castro
19. Harold Garcia
20. Jiwan James
21. JC Ramirez
22. Kelly Dugan
23. Phillippe Aumont
24. Josh Zeid
25. Scott Mathieson
26. Perci Garner
27. John Mayberry Jr
28. Jon Pettibone
29. Matt Rizzotti
30. Collier Zachary
Really you’d rather have Worley than Singleton?
Offer another team their choice of Singleton or Worley in a trade and see if any take Worley.
Thadyoungin9
1 Brown
2 Singleton
3 Cosart
4 Colvin
5 May
6 Valle
7 Biddle
8 Gillies
9 Altherr
10 Worley
11 James
12 Santana
13 Julio Rodriguez
14 Defratus
15 JC Ramirez
16 Cesar Hernandez
17 Aumont
18 Colby Shreve
19 Scott Mathieson
20 Mike Schwimmer
21 Austin Hyatt
22 Jon Pettibone
23 Kelly Dugan
24 Perci Garner
25 Kevin Walter
26 Cameron Rupp
27 Matt Rizzotti
28 Freddy Galvis
29 Harold Garcia
30 Zack Collier
Mathieson will make the Phillies—-readers cannot even put him in the top 30—very baseball savvy readers it appears!
I’m not so sure he will to be honest. He better get that sinker working
I think we all assume he will make it to the Phils again at some point, possibly out of camp this year even. No one is really sure whether he’ll be any good when he gets there, and whether his arm will continue to stay attached to his body.
Now, why don’t you tell us what makes you so savvy?
No longer MLB rookie-eligible, so I won’t list him. I’m also not listing any of the 2010 draftees unless they got a reasonable number of AB or IP this past summer as pros. Everyone has their own eligibility rules. Not listing Mathieson does not mean the list-maker is ignorant of his talent.
Matheson will only make the squad out of ST in the event of an injury or if the Phils release Baez in ST. If they don’t trade Blanton (I think they will) and only keep 11, Matheson will be even one more player down the ladder behind Bastardo for a spot. And with a max upside of a middle reliever at this point, why should that be top 30?
Allentown:
1. Brown
2. Singleton
3. Colvin
4. Cosart (would be 2 without the injury shutdown)
5. May
6. Valle
7. Biddle
8. Gillies
9. Altherr
10.DeFratus
11.James
12.Santana
13.Cesar Hernandez
14.Worley
15.Pettibone
16.Ramierez
17.J. Rodriguez
18.Rizzotti
19.H. Garcia
20.Zeid
21.Hyatt
22.Dugan
23.Shreve
24.Aumont
25.Schwimer
26.Alvarez
27.Galvis
28.Castro
29.Maikel Franco
30.N.Hernandez
31.Rupp (because BA goes to 31)
Before anyone gripes, I excluded Mathieson and Bastardo as major leaguers and all of the 2010 draftees who only have zero or a few AB or IP in 2010 GCL.
1. Domonic Brown–a top-ten prospect in all of baseball. Disappointing end to last season, but reportedly already in CLW working out.
2. Jon Singleton–too good for the SAL early, seemed to have lost interest later in the year. Could be in the top ten as well if he plays like he did last spring.
3. Jared Cosart–great power arm–reaches 97 consistently. Injury last year was scary, but he’s reportely all better.
4. Brody Colvin–some rate him better than Cosart, but he doesn’t miss as many bats.
5. Sebastian Valle–defense really improved this year, so now he will probably not need to move to another position.
6. Trevor May–great stuff, but struggled when promoted to CLW.
7. Jesse Biddle–awesome debut. Reportedly has a great makeup to go along with his pitching repertoire.
8. Scott Mathieson–some won’t rate him due to age or MLB experience, but this kind of a power arm is a prospect at any age, and due to his surgeries he’s a special case. Working with Sutter.
9. Vance Worley–looked really good in the big leagues last year. Needs to pitch well in AAA this year.
10. Justin DeFratus–power arm, good control. Future closer stuff.
11. Jiwan James–breakout candidate. Great athlete, needs to lay off bad pitches.
12. Domingo Santana–what do we have with him? Full season at Lakewood this year will let us know. Great patience.
13. Julio Rodriguez–unbelievable 14.4 K/9 IP last year. Needs to be a full-time starter.
14. Tyson Gillies–if healthy would be much higher. Fast, good eye, great D. Just needs a good AA season.
15. Cesar Hernandez–Phils and other observers love him. Stats are good, but no power at all.
16. Matt Rizzotti–great, great hit tool. He’s got to find a position. Or he’s trade bait, but not very valuable since all other teams will know he’s blocked.
17. Harold Garcia–at least a big league utility guy. Can play SS, but is better at 2B or 3B. If his power improves we’ll have another blocked position player…
18. Austin Hyatt–reportedly now throws 94, and misses a lot of bats.
19. Aaron Altherr–very solid young player who has yet to show power or patience.
20. JC Ramirez–who knows, really? Looks like a solid AAA/AAAA guy, but gave up way too many HRs in REading.
21. Perci Garner–a horse who hasn’t played all that much baseball, throws really hard with a good curve.
22. Maikel Franco–17-year-old not overwhelmed in GCL.
23. Kelly Dugan–had the best 2 weeks of anyone in the system last year at GCL. Needs to consistently perform.
24. Michael Schwimer–smart, determined, has 4 pitches he can throw any time.
25. Josh Zeid–just keeps throwing zeroes. Closed and started last year, and built up his K/IP.
26. Jon Pettibone–could be better, but needs to miss bats. Low WHIP, improved later in the year.
27. Eric Pettis–unreal stats at WMPT last year. Also pitched well in the playoffs.
28. Miguel Alvarez–hit for a very high average at WMPT, but needs to improve power. At 6’1″, 170 he has room to get more muscular.
29. Matt Way–misses a lot of bats, but has to move quickly.
30. Nick Hernandez–lefty posted a 0.81 WHIP in 8 starts at Lakewood–good K-rate, great control.
31. (Bonus for those who consider Mathieson ineligible) Freddy Galvis–might be his last chance to learn to hit and become more than Anderson Machado.
Mathieson at #8?!?
Really???
You’re completely entitled to your opinion but wow…that’s high. I do appreciate and like that you added comments/explanations for all your picks.
Pettis needs to improve on that 88 mph reading that kept popping up on the Lakewood scoreboard in the SAL finals. Hard to judge talent who were given a game uniform for only a game or two last year.
GregA:
1 Domonic Brown
2 Brody Colvin
3 Jon Singleton
4 Jared Cosart
5 Trevor May
6 Sebastion Valle
7 Tyson Gillies
8 Vance Worley
9 Domingo Santana
10 Jesse Biddle
11 Jiwan James
12 Jon Pettibone
13 Julio Rodriguez
14 Aaron Altherr
15 Justin DeFratus
16 Colby Shreve
17 Phillippe Aumont
18 Cesar Hernandez
19 J.C. Ramirez
20 Kelly Dugan
21 Matt Rizzotti
22 Austin Hyatt
23 Freddy Galvis
24 Harold Garcia
25 Cameron Rupp
26 Miguel Franco
27 Gauntlett Eldmire
28 Josh Zeid
29 Leandro Castro
30 Miguel Alvarez
Jslasher88
01. Domonic Brown
02. Jonathan Singleton
03. Jarred Cosart
04. Brody Colvin
05. Trevor May
06. Sebastian Valle
07. Jesse Biddle
08. Julio Rodriguez
09. Aaron Altherr
10. Tyson Gillies
11. Vance Worley
12. Jiwan James
13. Domingo Santana
14. Cesar Hernandez
15. Jon Pettibone
16. Justin De Fratus
17. Kelly Dugan
18. Harold Garcia
19. Leandro Castro
20. JC Ramirez
21. Philippe Aumont
22. Mike Schwimer
23. Josh Zeid
24. Colby Shreve
25. Matt Rizzotti
26. Miguel Alvarez
27. Freddy Galvis
28. Mike Stutes
29. Maikel Franco
30. Ebelin Lugo
Whatever happened to Stephen Inch?
That’s a really good question. Also, I was looking forward to seeing the progression of Ryan Sasaki from that same draft class. Sasaki had good numbers in 2009 but also mysteriously disappeared in 2010. My guess is they were injured…what a bonus it would be if they both came back with big seasons this year!
Handzus
01. Domonic Brown
02. Jonathan Singleton
03. Brody Colvin
04. Jarred Cosart
05. Trevor May
06. Sebastien Valle
07. Vance Worley
08. Julio Rodriguez
09. Jesse Biddle
10. Tyson Gillies
11. Aaron Altherr
12. JC Ramirez
13. Domingo Santana
14. Cesar Hernandez
15. Jiwan James
16. Justin De Fratus
17. Phillippe Aumont
18. Freddy Galvis
19. Michael Schwimer
20. Colby Shreve
21. Jon Pettibone
22. Austin Hyatt
23. Matt Rizzotti
24. Cameron Rupp
25. Perci Garner
26. Kevin Walter
27. Harold Garcia
28. Michael Stutes
29. Lisalberto Bonilla
30. Kelly Dugan
1 Domonic Brown
2 Jared Cosart
3 Brody Colvin
4 Jon Singleton
5 Trevor May
6 Sebastion Valle
7 Jesse Biddle
8 Aaron Altherr
9 Cesar Hernandez
10 Domingo Santana
11 Tyson Gillies
12 Jiwan James
13 Julio Rodriguez
14 Harold Garcia
15 Vance Worley
16 Justin DeFratus
17 J.C. Ramirez
18 Matt Rizzotti
19 Fred Galvis
20 Jon Pettibone
21 Josh Zeid
22 Austin Hyatt
23 Leandro Castro
24 Phillippe Aumont
25 Miguel Alvarez
26 Perci Garner
27 Kevin Walter
28 Kelly Dugan
29 Gauntlett Eldemire
30 Maikel Franco
NEPP’s List
01. Dom Brown
02. Jon Singleton
03. Jarred Cosart
04. Brody Colvin
05. Trevor May
06. Sebastian Valle
07. Tyson Gillies
08. Jesse Biddle
09. Vance Worley
10. Domingo Santana
11. Justin DeFratus
12. Julio Rodriguez
13. Aaron Altherr
14. JC Ramirez
15. Cesar Hernandez
16. Phillippe Aumont
17. Jiwan James
18. Harold Garcia
19. Kelly Dugan
20. Jon Pettibone
21. Austin Hyatt
22. Michael Scwhimer
23. Matt Rizzotti
24. Cameron Rupp
25. Colby Shreve
26. Leandro Castro
27. Josh Zeid
28. Perci Garner
29. Freddy Galvis
30. Kevin Walter
Brandon:
01. Domonic Brown
02. Jonathan Singleton
03. Jarred Cosart
04. Brody Colvin
05. Trevor May
06. Sebastian Valle
07. Jiwan James
08. Jesse Biddle
09. Domingo Santana
10. Tyson Gillies
11. Justin De Fratus
12. Vance Worley
13. Julio Rodriguez
14. Cesar Hernandez
15. Aaron Altherr
16. Phillippe Aumont
17. Kelly Dugan
18. Freddy Galvis
19. J.C. Ramirez
20. Jon Pettibone
21. Miguel Alvarez
22. Zach Collier
23. Austin Hyatt
24. Matt Rizzotti
25. Harold Garcia
26. Colby Shreve
27. Mike Stutes
28. Michael Schwimer
29. Mike Cisco
30. Josh Zeid
display name: marfis
key- * LHP or batter, # switch hitter
1. * Domonic Brown, OF
2. *Jon Singleton, OF-1B
3. Brody Colvin, P
4. Jared Cosart, P
5. Trevor May, P
6. *Jesse Biddle, P
7. Julio Rodriguez, P
8. Sebastien Valle, C
9. Vance Worley, P
10. J.C.Ramirez,P
11. Phillippe Aumont, P
12. Domingo Santana, OF
13. Justin DeFratus, P
14.# Jiwan James, OF
15. Aaron Altherr, OF
16. Austin Hyatt, P
17. # Freddy Galvis, SS
18. # Cesar Hernandez, 2B
19. Perci Garner, P
20. # Kelly Dugan, OF
21. Jon Petitbone, P
22. *Matt Rizzotti, 1B
23. # Harold Garcia, 2B
24. Cameron Rupp, C
25. Leandro Castro, OF
26. Miguel Alvarez, OF
27. # Edgar Duran, SS
28. Drew Naylor, P
29. * Ervis Manzanillo, P
30. Steven Malcolm, SS
Wow, you are really down on Gillies.
Well, the level of play might not be down worthy if it was assured he was of the proper mental state and could remain injury free, but I had previously identified Gillies as an “injury risk” and consistency of opinion is one of my watchwords.
Gene’s List
1. Domonic Brown
2. Jonathan Singleton
3. Jared Cosart
4. Brody Colvin
5. Trevor May
6. Sebastian Valle
7. Tyson Gillies
8. Julio Rodriguez
9. Jesse Biddle
10. Justin DeFratus
11. Jiwan James
12. Cesar Hernandez
13. Domingo Santana
14. JC Ramirez
15. Vance Worley
16. Aaron Altherr
17. Phillipe Aumont
18. Austin Hyatt
19. Harold Garcia
20. Jon Pettibone
21. Mike Rizzoti
22. Mike Schwimer
23. Scott Mathieson
24. Leandro Castro
25. Josh Zeid
26. Colby Shreve
27. Kevin Walter
28. Gaunlett Eldemire
29. Perci Garner
30. Cameron Rupp
I came with a spreadsheet combining all the lists into one weighted list (30 points for 1st, 29 for 2nd, etc.). Here is the community list through Gene’s votes. I discounted the anonymous list since it listed Jiwan James twice.
1. Brown
2. Singleton
3. Cosart
4. Colvin
5. May
6. Valle
7. Biddle
8. Worley
9. Gillies
10. James
11. Santana
12. Altherr
13. DeFratus
14. Rodriguez
15. C.Hernandez
16. Ramirez
17. Garcia
18. Aumont
19. Pettibone
20. Hyatt
21. Rizzotti
22. Dugan
23. Galvis
24. Castro
25. Shreve
26. Schwimer
27. Zeid
28. Garner
29. Mathieson
30. Rupp
Kevin Walter is #31. The community voted list and the composite lists are not terribly different. Cesar Hernandez jumps five spots, Harold Garcia jumps four spots and Matt Rizzotti falls four spots. But most players are in the same ballpark.
I also can’t help but notice that 25 of 28 ballots list Cesar Hernandez in front of Austin Hyatt.
The #19 vote was such an obvious case of ballot stuffing, in order to force a run-off. Why it was that important to someone? Who knows.
Hey Alan, if you can email me a copy of the spreadsheet when it is fully updated, that would be great. I’ll add it to the eventual home for all of these lists.
Thanks.
No problem. 29 ballots are counted. The only ones not on the list are the three with duplicate names.
1. Domonic Brown
2. Jon Singleton
3. Brody Colvin
4. Jared Cosart
5. Sebastian Valle
6. Trevor May
7. Jesse Biddle
8. Julio Rodriguez
9. Vance Worley
10. Aaron Altherr
11. Justin DeFratus
12. Jiwan James
13. Cesar Hernandez
14. Domingo Santana
15. Harold Garcia
16. JC Ramirez
17. Tyson Gillies
18. Phillipe Aumont
19. Kelly Dugan
20. Kevin Walter- based on reports out of Instructs, breakout
21. Leandro Castro
22. Jon Pettibone
23. Josh Zeid
24. Matt Rizzotti
25. Austin Hyatt
26. Schwim
27. Cameron Rupp
28. Matt Rizzotti
29. Perci Garner
30. Colby Schreve
Rizzotti is listed twice on this ballot.
Pat Burrell
1. Domonic Brown
2. Jon Singleton
3. Brody Colvin
4. Jared Cosart
5. Sebastian Valle
6. Trevor May
7. Jesse Biddle
8. Julio Rodriguez
9. Vance Worley
10. Aaron Altherr
11. Justin DeFratus
12. Jiwan James
13. Cesar Hernandez
14. Domingo Santana
15. Harold Garcia
16. JC Ramirez
17. Tyson Gillies
18. Phillipe Aumont
19. Kelly Dugan
20. Kevin Walter- based on reports out of Instructs, breakout
21. Leandro Castro
22. Jon Pettibone
23. Josh Zeid
24. Matt Rizzotti
25. Austin Hyatt
26. Schwim
27. Cameron Rupp
28. Gauntlett Eldemire
29. Perci Garner
30. Colby Schreve
1.brown
2.singleton
3. cosart
4. may
5. colvin
6. gillies
7. valle
8. julio
9. biddle
10. santana
11. altherr
12. james
13. cesar
14. de fratus
15. aumont
16. JC
17. hyatt
18. rizzotti
19. pettibone
20. dugan
21. garcia
22. schwimer
23. walter
24. garner
25. rupp
26. garcia
27. galvis
28. castro
29. eldemire
30. collier
oops put garcia twice
So you get to add another guy.
I don’t feel comfortable with attempting to assign a cardinal ranking; these are guys still in or barely out of adolescence, still physically & emotionally maturing; and the pace at which each progresses is to much a dynamic (a small change in his release point, a slight change in where he has his hands positioned as he enters his swing, etc). So I am grouping my guesses/judgments in categories that more or less make sense to me.
1. The guys who have demonstrated the most emerging talent, who are pretty much a consensus top seven: Brown, Singleton, Cosart, May, Colvin, Vale, Gillis.
2. Then three who seem to have the potential to move rapidly toward the majors this season: Harold Garcia, DeFratus, and (yes) Aumont.
3. The youngsters with great promise that could very easily appear on the top ten Phillies prospect lists six months or a year from now: Biddle, Altheer, James, Cesar Hernandez, Julio Rodriquez, JC Ramirez, Santana, Fredde Galvis, Carlos Romero.
4. A few players who could climb into category three and be no surprise: Pettibone, Dugan, Collier, Shreve, a resurgent Kevin Sampson.
5. The older guys who are going to get a chance in Philly probably before the end of the 2011 season: Bastardo, Mathieson, or (2012) Hyatt, Stutes, maybe Schwimmer, or elsewhere in the majors, Rizzotti.
6. The Latin players who tend to be overlooked frequently: Castro, Alvarez, Lendy Castillo, G. Mendez, Lugo.
There is an impressive list of intriguing, promising younger & recently signed kids who IMO simply haven’t yet had adequate exosure in pro ball to be even superficialy evaluated–players who we have to depend on published opinions, many of them not particularly well-informed or resting in demonstrated expertise: Garner, Hollands, Mergado, Walter, Musser, Buchanan, Rupp, Eldimire, Pointer Mitchell, Inch, Sasaki among recent draft selelctions; Latin signings F Siva, A Gonzalez, Solarlte, Franco, Lino Martinez, Zavala, Bonilla, Manzanillo, Rios.
Then there is the depressing list of once highly touted kids who are on the verge of disappearing from the organization unless there is a solid, unexpected recouping this year: Correa, Edgar Garcia, Hewitt, Hudson, Carpenter, Naylor. Mattair.
And a few older guys with probably less natural gifts who make it just because of their smarts, competitive drive, benefit of opportunity opening: Zeid, Nick Hernandez, Pettis, Ruf, Cartwright, Overbeck, Barnes among them (my darkhorse choice here is Darren Ruf from Creighton, though he lacks power to go with his glove, average, base-running smarts)
Finally, I assume that Rule V pick David Herndon will go to LV for the 2011 season to get needed experience and innings, but will return to be a fixture in the Phillies bullpen post Lidge & Contreras. Not sure that Kendrick still has an option left, but if he does I would love to see him spend another full year in Triple A mastering a third pitch to handle lefty hitters (otherwise I think he likely is traded by April).
i will throw in stutes at #30 and move everyone after #21 garcia down one spot
JKEARSE123
*Note* I don’t consider any player a prospect once he’s played a game in the MLB, aka taken a swing/or thrown a pitch
1. Jonathan Singleton
2. Brody Colvin
3. Jarred Cosart
4. Trevor May
5. Domingo Santana
6. Sebastian Valle
7. Jiwan James
8. Jesse Biddle
9. Aaron Altherr
10. Julio Rodriguez
11. Cesar Hernandez
12. Tyson Gillies
13. Justin DeFratus
14. Jon Pettibone
15. Austin Hyatt
16. Freddy Galvis
17. Phillippe Aumont
18. Kelly Dugan
19. Jon Musser
20. Kevin Walter
21. Cameron Rupp
22. Anderson Gonzalez
23. Francisco Silva
24. Matt Rizzotti
25. Leandro Castro
26. Ebelin Lugo (very, very underrated)
27. Gauntlett Eldemire
28. Zach Collier
29. Marlon Mitchell (I agree with others. Breakout candidate)
30. Chace Numata (Another breakout candidate… still really young)
So much for Dominic Brown as the number one player on Allan’s chart. Isn’t this how Ted Williams lost the MVP to DiMaggio, while hitting .400?
IIRC, there was some controversy in that one writer left Williams off his ballot entirely. But Bill James pointed out that even if the writer had listed Williams first, Dimaggio would’ve won the award.
Besides, Bill Terry had hit .401 just eleven years prior. Its easy to note in retrospect that Williams was the last .400 hitter, but that wasn’t obvious at the time.
I’m not running the math at this time, but I think Brown would still rank #1 on the list.
No JC Ramirez?
Nope… I’ve watched JC live. He has good stuff, but not great stuff. Below average numbers at A+, yuck numbers at AA, and a lot of work to do on his control, needs to lower his WHIP… and he has never really had a good season outside of the VSL.
PhillyCuban
01. Dom Brown
02. Jarred Cosart
03. Brody Colvin
04. Jon Singleton
05. Trevor May
06. Sebastian Valle
07. Tyson Gillies
08. Domingo Santana
09. Jiwan James
10. Aaron Altherr
11. Vance Worley
12. Julio Rodriguez
13. Cesar Hernandez
14. Justin De Fratus
15. JC Ramirez
16. Phillipe Aumont
17. Harold Garcia
18. Kelly Dugan
19. Jon Pettibone
20. Perci Garner
21. Kevin Walter
22. Cameron Rupp
23. Josh Zeid
24. Austin Hyatt
25. Colby Shreve
26. Michael Schwimer
27. Freddy Galvis
28. Leandro Castro
29. Matt Rizzotti
30. Nick Hernandez
display name: PhxPhilly
1 Brown
2 Colvin
3 Singleton
4 Cosart
5 May
6 Valle
7 Biddle
8 Gillies
9 Rodriguez
10 DeFratus
11 Bastardo
12 Worley
13 James
14 Aumont
15 Altherr
16 Rizzotti
17 C.Hernandez
18 Pettibone
19 Mathieson
20 Santana
21 Ramirez
22 Hyatt
23 H.Garcia
24 Zeid
25 Schwimer
26 Galvis
27 Dugan
28 Castro
29 Shreve
30 Walter
31 N.Hernandez
32 Zagurski
I added 31 and 32 if Bastardo and Mathieson are not considered valid prospects. Wanted to get my list in before PP finishes his writeups. Since I am late, I added my reasoning for
display name: PhxPhilly
1 Brown Undisputed top since tools have been demonstrated at high levels
2 Colvin Strong build, like his secondary pitches above others, lower risk
3 Singleton Well rounded hitter at young age, not sure how power will develop
4 Cosart Possibly best arm in system, had many excited early 2010
5 May Unhappy that he was demoted but K rate still outstanding, below top4
6 Valle Catching skills improved, young, power only bat more liable elsewhere
7 Biddle Maybe too high, but high K rate LHP, eastern bias may need more time
8 Gillies 2010 ST showed he could be game changer, speed big plus, should recover
9 Rodriguez Kept moving up as scouting reported higher velocity, sick stats
10 DeFratus Closer upside, K stuff but good control, converted starter with track record
11 Bastardo *Big assumption on health, but has great stuff, keep hoping for breakout
12 Worley Proximity ranks higher, think upside is Blanton (#3 innings eater)
13 James Needs more development, think he could flop, however, tools are excellent
14 Aumont Has already flopped, better in relief, great upside, international flashes
15 Altherr Really going on scouting reports on him, 3B is intriguing, is power there?
16 Rizzotti Doubt move up list, Reading stats were awesome, still has a little projection
17 C.Hernandez Moved up (originally wondered why protected), ‘elite’ speed but no power
18 Pettibone Ranked on second half season imporvements, still low K is concern
19 Mathieson Proximity, elite FB so potential is there despite age, Phils dislike him
20 Santana Much lower since I wanted to see more statistical success in 2010
21 Ramirez Upside likely #4,5 starter or reliever, mixed scouting reports over years
22 Hyatt Pitcher of year. Reports indicate 3 quality pitches for his success, old
23 H.Garcia Enough speed and power to be utility player, old for level, proximity
24 Zeid Old for level, reports say slider is plus so could advance, Stutes/Hyatt type
25 Schwimer Tops out as setup guy, high K rate still exists but FB not excellent
26 Galvis Still young, will at least be defensive replacement option, has a little speed
27 Dugan Hot two week period gives hope, has some power and speed projection
28 Castro Walk rate low, avg low, likely 4th OF, worth rooting for but not starter
29 Shreve Due to injury is behind, will TJ year 2 improve his stuff, much projection
30 Walter All projection, picked one 2010 draftee with little pro stats, high ceiling
31 N.Hernandez Excellent showing but old for level and stuff is not special, lefty helps
32 Zagurski No easy choice for me here, Lefty reliever is need market, high K, proximity
SidBream Says:
1. Domonic Brown
2. Jon Singleton
3. Jared Cosart
4. Brody Colvin
5. Trevor May
6. Sebastion Valle
7. Jesse Biddle
8. Aaron Altherr
9. Jiwan James
10. Justin DeFratus
11. Austin Hyatt
12. Julio Rodriguez
13. Jon Pettibone
14. Tyson Gillies
15. Domingo Santana
16. Cesar Hernandez
17.Vance Worley
18.Perci Garner
19. Josh Zeid
20. Kelly Dugan
21. Kevin Walter
22. Miguel Alvarez
23. Colby Shreve
24. Nick Hernandez
25. Zack Collier
26. Kyrell Hudson
27. Ervis Manzanillo
28. Eblein Lugo
29. Leandro Castro
30. Phillippe Aumont
Added the new lists. Worley dropped from 8th to 12th thanks to JKearse not ranking MLB experienced players (Dom Brown remained #1). Justin DeFratus and Julio Rodriguez switched places, as did Kevin Walter and Cameron Rupp. With 34 ballots counted, you don’t get much movement unless someone submits a completely outlandish ballot.
Funny that after all the Derrick Mitchell nonsense, not one poster ranked him in their personal top 30.
Some good prospects who weren’t listed:
-Heitor Correa, RHP. Being from Brazil and having missed a season he’s extremely raw yet. I wouldn’t discount the lightbulb coming on at some point.
-Francisco Diaz, C. Latin American signing
-Geancarlo Mendez, OF.
-Franklyn Zavala, LHP. 16 year old signed late in 2010 for $330K.
Other players I found interesting who received no votes: Anthony Hewitt, Edgar Garcia (once BA’s #4 Phillies prospect), Albert Cartwright, Michael Martinez.
Finally, players who made every ballot: Singleton, Colvin, Cosart, May, Valle, James, Santana, Altherr, Rodriguez, DeFratus and Cesar Hernandez.
Nails 1. Domonic Brown, OF
2. Brody Colvin, RHP
3. Jarred Cosart, RHP
4. Jon Singleton, OF
5. Jesse Biddle, LHP
6. Trevor May, RHP
7. Tyson Gillies, OF
8. Sebastian Valle, C
9. Vance Worley, RHP
10. Justin De Fratus, RHP
11. Phillippe Aumont, RHP
12. Scott Maitheson, RHP
13. Julio Rodriguez, RHP
14. Aaron Altherr, OF
15. Jiwan James, OF
16. J C Ramirez, RHP
17. Jon Pettibone, RHP
18. Austin Hyatt, RHP
19. Domingo Santana, OF
20. Eric Pettis, RHP
21. Harold Garcia, 2B
22. Kelly Dugan, OF
23. Michael Schwimer, RHP
24. Colby Shreve, RHP
25. Freddy Galvis, SS
26. Josh Zeid, RHP
27. Leandro Castro, OF
28. Perci Garner, RHP
29. Cameron Rupp, C
30. Matt Rizzotti, 1B
What I find also exciting about the state of the farm system is all the prospects that have not even really shown their potential or that are now coming back from injury this year. The list includes:
Steven Inch
Kevin Walter
Guantlett Eldmire
Colin Kleven
Ethan Stewart
Percival Garner
Bryan Morgado
Brian Pointer
Jon Musser
Matt Way