Phillies’ Affiliates Recap (8/19/2022)

Here are today’s results.


Lehigh Valley (63-52) beat the Buffalo Bisons, 8-7.  Francisco Morales (2-3, 7.07) pitched a scoreless inning, with no hits, one walk, and one K.  Dalton Guthrie (.282) went 2-5 with 3 runs scored, a HR (10), and one RBI.


Reading (50-62, 21-22) lost to the Portland Sea Dogs, 6-3.  Griff McGarry (2.30) pitched five innings and gave up 2 runs on 2 hits and 5 walks with 4 K.  Johan Rojas (.245) went 3-3 with a walk and 2 SB.


Jersey Shore (43-69, 18-29) lost to the Wilmington Blue Rocks, 4-1.  Rixon Wingrove (.264) went 1-3 with a double and RBI.


Clearwater (51-59, 16-29) beat the Daytona Tortugas, 5-0 in eight innings, game two was postponed, inclement weather.  Jordi Martinez (3.95) pitched five innings, allowed 3 hits, and struck out six.  Alexeis Azuaje (.285) went 2-3.  Erick Brito (.232) went 1-3 with a triple and 3 RBI.


FCL Phillies (23-29) beat the FCL Yankees, 7-6.  Christopher Soriano (1-4, 4.84) retired the batters he faced including 2 K.  Justin Crawford (.333) went 3-4 with a walk, 2 SB (6), 2 RBI.  Bryan Rincon (.222) went 2-3 with a walk, HR (2), and 2 RBI.


DSL Phillies Red (35-21) lost to the DSL Phillies White (36-19), 4-0.

Red was held to 3 singles.  Edwar Chirinos pitched three scoreless innings allowing 2 hits, one walk, and 3 K.

White got six shutout innings from Javier Fuenmeyer (2-2, 3.93) with 2 hits and 3 K.  William Bergolla (.369) went 2-4 with a walk and 2 RBI.  Jorge Garcia (.306) went 3-4 with a double.


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25 thoughts on “Phillies’ Affiliates Recap (8/19/2022)

  1. As much as we want McGarry up in the Phillies rotation as soon as possible, he needs to get his command issues under control. He’s currently at 4.4 for Reading and it’s going up after issuing 5 walks.

    1. If McGarry’s proximity to the show is as some are projecting, and his stuff is that electric, yet his command is not all that, perhaps it’d be wiser to convert him to a reliever? I thought Erik Miller was going to be at least a MOR starter in the majors, and here they moved him to the bullpen. At this point of McGarry’s development, I don’t see why he wouldn’t be considered as a back of the pen arm.

      1. For years I have heard the argument “if his command is not great then move him to the pen.” I have never understood this point. What’s the logical reason that moving to the bullpen makes command better? Why does not walking players matter less in the pen?

        I don’t buy it. He is a starter with elite stuff and inconsistent command. He needs to improve it. Period.

        1. Exactly V1again. You wait until the last possible minute. Sometimes guys like Andrew Miller just cant put it together as a starter and THEN you work with them at relieving and they become great. But you wait until they are at least 25-26 and have shown no ability to fix their issues before you even start with that mindset.

      2. I have to assume, pitchers with plus stuff but poor control or command become relievers because ilo of them trying to develop 3 or 4 pitches to become an effective starter, they only need to concentrate on two pitches as relievers, and with that give them the opportunity to develop some command or even control with their FB and whatever breaking ball they decide to concentrate on throwing…some cannot even do that and end up with FB modifications, ie 2Smr or cut FB, and a change-up
        Apparently, McGarry needs to harness in his FB….everything works off FB command.

      3. This is his first full year in the system and he’s made significant strides with his control, though it needs more work. They weren’t going to fix it overnight, so why convert him now? He might get a cup of coffee this year out of the bullpen (though I doubt it) but he’s going to be in the mix to get a rotation spot next year if he does well. If he hasn’t improved it this time next year, maybe it’s time to think about converting him.

      4. Didn’t the Phillies do this with Francisco Morales this season? His walk rate actually got worse as a reliever (7.1) than a starter (6.6).

        The primary reason why you convert a starter to a reliever is that they don’t have enough pitches to be a viable starter. This is not the case with McGarry.

        1. A pitcher can have 4 pitches, and cannot throw 3 for strikes…..they will not be a starter for long.
          Relievers only need two effective….controllable pitches.

          1. Almost always when people say that a pitcher has poor command it is with the fastball. I would agree with this logic if a pitcher can command his fastball and only 1 other off speed pitch. But that is rarely this issue. It is usually poor fastball command. And moving to the pen doesn’t change that.

  2. Could this be put CFer? Dalton Guthrie (.282) went 2-5 with 3 runs scored, a HR (10), and one RBI at LHV.

    1. Dalton Guthrie is 26 at Lehigh. That alone should tell you all you need to know.

      But if you need another one, when the Phillies needed a CF when Marsh went down, they picked up Bradley Zimmer off waivers. Zimmer is known to be defensive CF with a career ML OPS of .639.

      Guthrie is likely not going to the bigs for the Phillies any time soon. He needs to go to another team.

  3. I know it’s early, but I am enjoying seeing what Justin Crawford is doing as he starts his professional career. I can’t help but be very pleased with his results, albeit a sss.

    1. So far so good. Not too many strikeouts, some walks drawn, no power yet but he’s hitting the ball well enough to get hits at least. Kind of what we expected I think.

      Also a good start from 14th rounder Bryan Rincon. Already 4 XBHs with 2 HRs. Boyd was also doing well until yesterday, but that’s what happens with small samples.

      1. Justin’s dad Carl is 6’2″, 230lbs so the Phillies are hoping that Justin can grow into his 6’3″ frame. Justin’s bat was more advanced than his dad at his age and thankfully, Justin is showing that he can hit in this remaining FCL season.

  4. In most cases, pitching out of the bullpen allows a player to walk a guy every other inning because, chances are, he’ll only pitch one inning if he is at the back end of the bullpen. As a starter, that one walk every other inning could lead to a big inning and/or running up the pitch count.

    Denny, I would really like to see Guthrie get a shot on the MLB roster. The way that Vierling has been playing is subpar. He’s a good enough defender but he is not hitting much at all. I don’t think Guthrie could do much worse. Give him a shot.

    1. At this point, it looks like Vierling has shown us what his ceiling is: a 4th OF. He’s only playing because of injuries. Not only that, Guthrie is not on the 40 which means you have to boot somebody off the 40 for Guthrie which I think the Phillies don’t want to do.

      1. They could move Eflin to the 60-day DL I think, but they don’t want to use that spot on Guthrie anyway otherwise why pick up Zimmer? Vierling should really only be playing against LHP.

  5. So far after 75 PAs William Bergolla does seem to have an eye for contact….369/.453/.415 and only 3 strikeouts and 9 BBs…power should come as he ages.

  6. I don’t know much about how the DSL and FCL look at their promotions but it seems Bergolla is handling himself fine and needs better competition.

    1. Normally, they would leave him there for another month, then bring him to the states for the FILs in October….then, assume he starts at the FCL next spring as an 18-year old

  7. Nikau Pouaka-Grego…three more hits today for the 17 year old.
    Two of the better hitting prospects are foreign guys from the Pacific Rim….Hao Yu Lee and Pouaka-Grego…maybe even throw in Aussie Rix Wingrove.
    Still early in the game, but just maybe the Phillies struck gold out there..

    1. NPG not in the new MLB Phils top 30. Another oversight I think.

      I hope Lee finishes the year strong. His numbers have dropped since he came back from the injury, though he does have a strong .417 OBP in August.

      1. Yeah…I do think he will be in it after next mid-season, if he can still rake @ CLW, I assume next spring. mLB does the re-work at mid-season.
        I am not sure they will put him in their pre-2023 rankings which normally come out in Jan/Feb.
        Though Fangraphs may do it since they evaluate and scout out FIL performances.

        1. I think they usually get some inside info from the teams on who they like, so if the Phillies are high on him it might be reflected in those pre-2023 rankings. Either way, a 17 year old with numbers like he has – in a weak system – should turn some heads.

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