Last Tuesday, the Phillies made their 31 non-roster invites (NRIs) to spring training (ST) public. This year they made a distinction between ST and a Mini Camp (MC) that is being run simultaneously. Regardless of their designation, 75 players are allowed in Clearwater plus rehabbing employees. Since Tuesday, there have been a few additions and one subtraction.
The 40 players on the 40-man roster receive automatic invitations to ST. In addition, the Phillies extended invitations to 12 players as part of their signing minor league contracts, the 12 external NRIs – pitchers Neftalí Feliz, Brandon Kintzler, Bryan Mitchell, Iván Nova, Héctor Rondón, Michael Ynoa, catchers Christian Bethancourt, Rodolfo Durán, Jeff Mathis, infielder Ronald Torreyes, and outfielders Travis Jankowski and Matt Joyce.
The 19 players who were invited to MC, internal NRIs, include – pitchers Tyler Carr, Enyel De Los Santos, Julian Garcia, JD Hammer, Jonathan Hennigan, Jakob Hernandez, Erik Miller, David Parkinson, David Paulino, Zach Warren, catchers Edgar Cabral, Logan O’Hoppe, infielders Darick Hall, Bryson Stott, Luke Williams, and outfielders Herrera, Jhailyn Ortiz, Johan Rojas, and Matt Vierling.
Then, on Wednesday the 17th, the Phillies announced the signing of Brad Miller to a major league contract. To make room on the 40-man, Seranthony Dominguez was bumped to the 60-Day Injured List (IL). Miller’s signing did not affect the 75 player limit in Clearwater. However, later that day, they announced that they signed LHP Tony Watson to a minor league deal with an invite to ST. That’s 72 in Clearwater.
There is little distinction between ST and MC. Both are receiving the weekly major league stipend of $3200 and receive meal money on road trips. Today, I learned that the player count in Clearwater reached 73 when SS Luis Garcia was invited to MC. He accepted and is already here. (This is the coolest news I’ve heard all weekend.)
The Phillies running payroll is $188,159,462. This includes twenty players under contract (including Dominguez) plus an estimate for the seven pre-arbitration players under team control with 0-3 years experience (estimated at the league minimum $570,500).
The Phillies’ salary against the competitive balance tax is $198,272,282 and includes estimates for the rest of the 40-man roster ($2.25M) and player benefits ($15.5M). With a CBT threshold of $210M, the Phillies are around $11,727,718 under the tax threshold. (see spreadsheet)
My estimates are likely low. Some of the 7 players who don’t have salaries yet will undoubtedly make more than the league minimum. And, a couple are likely to be replaced by a couple of NRIs. Brandon Kintzler and Tony Watson receive $3M each if they make the major league roster. Ivan Nova, Hector Rondon, and Matt Joyce would receive $1.5M. Depending on who makes it and who gets optioned or worse, the payroll and CBT could go up by as little as around $1M or as much as $2.5M to $5M.
I have a controversial opinion that several of my friends seem to think is valid. I’ll share it here.
When a new guy like Dave Dombrowski takes over an organization, it is not unusual for him and his staff to NOT be invested in the players and prospects already there.
Most of the free agent signings that have occurred over the past month seem to point to a lack of confidence in the top levels of the organization. If I were a player or family member of a player in Lehigh Valley, Reading, and maybe even Clearwater in 2019, I would be concerned regarding my future with the Phillies.
In addition to acquisitions, ST and MC assignments raise an eyebrow. The guys at ST are on the 40-man, external NRIs, and one internal (C Rodolfo Duran, there are never enough catchers).
Some of the guys NOT invited raise an eyebrow. (Mine, anyway)
I think we would all be shocked if anyone from MC made the team. I would be equally shocked if half these guys aren’t gone by 2021.
This is just my reaction to acquisitions. It is not based on anything I’ve heard or think I know. Just my reaction to “my guys” being blocked by more outsiders.
It’s no secret how I feel about “my guys” (and, just for the record, they’re ALL “my guys”). I’m afraid that the 25th spot on the roster may be a battle between Brogdon and Romero, with the rest of the roster looking like this –
- C: Realmuto (if JT’s not ready, Knapp)
- INF: Hoskins, Segura, Gregorious, Bohm
- OF: McCutchen, Haseley, Harper
- SP: Nola, Wheeler, Eflin, Moore, Anderson
- RP: Alvarado, Bradley, Neris, Kintzler, Watson, Velasquez, Coonrod, Romero/Brogdon
- Bench: Knapp, Miller, Kingery, Quinn
- The 26th spot depends on the length of the BP and bench. If BP, the other of Romero/Brogdon is safe. If bench, then Chatham.
If both Kintzler and Watson make the team that requires two roster moves. Everyone expects Hale to be one of them. I’m not so sure. He is, after all, a Girardi guy. If Joyce makes it, that’s another move required. So, a couple more young pitchers/players for cash may loom in our future. Oh, Hale, Neris, Anderson, and Quinn are out of options.
The above is my speculation of what I think the Phillies might do. Not what I would do. If this is close, the Phillies’ average age will be will roughly 30 years and x days. I don’t think we’ve been that old in a while. Like, since 2014.
Michael Schwimer wrote here over a decade ago. I read most of his stuff yesterday. If you really are interested, I’ll post them on links off the menu above. All I need to see are two requests in the comments section.
He’s a very well-spoken young man, went back and graduated from UVA when he didn’t like his draft position after his junior year. One of our former writers is among the social media mob that is railing against Schwimer. I spent a good portion of my afternoon researching the practice of “lending” practiced by his group. I strongly suggest you do your own research and form your own opinions rather than accept the opinions of others on social media. It seems that most of the baseball people I follow I would label liberal democrats. I would expect them to be against this practice. Me, I’m not so sure. My research points me in a different direction. I read them for their baseball smarts, not their political views.
I mentioned last week that I was reading some of James’ earliest articles on prospects. This is from his first article on December 1, 2006.
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- February 21, 2021 – First full squad workout
- February 28, 2021 – First spring training game @ Tigers
- March 1, 2021 – First home spring training game v. Orioles
- March 24, 2021 – Opt out date for Brandon Kintzler
- April 1, 2021 – Phillies’ home opener v. Braves
- April 2021 – ST for Double-A and Single-A begins
- May 2021 – Opening day for Double-A and Single-A
- June 25, 2021 – Close of the 2020 international signing period
- July 11-13, 2021 – 2021 Amateur Draft
- October 2, 2021 – Phillies clinch a playoff berth in Miami
The rosters and lists are up to date as of February 21st … 338 players in the org
2/17/2021 – Phillies placed RHP Seranthony Dominguez on the 60-day IL
2/17/2021 – LHP Tony Watson assigned to Lehigh Valley
2/17/2021 – Phillies signed FA LHP Tony Watson to an MiLB contract w/invite to ST
2/17/2021 – Phillies signed FA SS Brad Miller
2/16/2021 – RHP David Paulino assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – C Jeff Mathis assigned to Lehigh Valley
2/16/2021 – Phillies signed FA C Jeff Mathis to an MiLB contract w/invite to ST
2/16/2021 – LHP Erik Miller assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – C Edgar Cabral assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – RHP Tyler Carr assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – RHP Julian Garcia assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – RHP Enyel De Los Santos assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – C Logan O’Hoppe assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – 3B Luke Williams assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – SS Bryson Stott assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – LF Matt Vierling assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – Phillies invited non-roster C Rodolfo Duran to ST
2/16/2021 – 1B Darick Hall assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – RHP JD Hammer assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – CF Johan Rojas assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – LHP Jonathan Hennigan assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – LHP Jakob Hernandez assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – LHP David Parkinson assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – LHP Zach Warren assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – CF Odubel Herrera assigned to Phillies
2/16/2021 – RF Jhailyn Ortiz assigned to Phillies
2/15/2021 – Phillies signed FA OF Travis Jankowski to a MiLB contract w/invite to ST
2/15/2021 – RHP Brandon Kintzler assigned to Lehigh Valley
2/15/2021 – LF Matt Joyce assigned to Lehigh Valley
2/13/2021 – SS Alfredo Alderete assigned to DSL Red
2/13/2021 – RHP Daniel Mejia assigned to DSL Red