Threshers Recap – 8/8/2019

Clearwater (22-27, 58-57)   postponed, DH at 4:00 PM v. Palm Beach.

Lehigh Valley (55-59)  lost to  Louisville, 6-1.  The IronPigs scored first, on Nick Williams solo HR (7) in the first inning.  They collected 11 total hits and drew 4 walks, but went 2-11 with RISP and didn’t cross the plate again. 

The IronPigs held the lead until a 6-run sixth inning.  In 5.1 innings, Enyel De Los Santos (5-6, 3.96) gave up 5 runs on 5 hits and 3 walks.  He struck out four.  Tyler Gilbert (3.41) finished the inning, allowed 2 inherited runners to score, and gave up the sixth run.  Kyle Dohy (6.60) pitched two scoreless innings, gave up 3 hits, and struck out four.  Tom Windle (4.26) struck out the side in a perfect ninth.

Logan Morrison (.315) went 4-4.  Ali Castillo (.326) had 2 hits.

Reading (30-19, 69-47)  lost to Hartford, 6-4.  Jerad Eickhoff (0-1, 12.00) had a hand in another affiliate’s loss last might.  He buried Reading in a 4-0 hole in the first inning that they could not escape.  He gave up the 4 runs on 3 hits and a walk, 2 stolen bases, and a 3-run HR.  In three innings he struck out three.  Colton Eastman (2.16) pitched 4.2 innings and gave up 2 runs on 4 hits and a walk.  He struck out eight.  Jeff Singer (2.47) stranded an inherited runner and finished the game with 1.1 innings of scoreless ball.  He struck out two.

The Phils scored a run in the third inning on Alec Bohm’s RBI single.  They scored 2 runs in the fourth Luke Williams’ sac fly and Arquimedes Gamboa’s RBI single.  They closed within one run in the fifth on Josh Stephen’s solo HR (9).

The Phils had 10 hits and 7 walks, but only went 2-10 with RISP.  Bohm (.259) had 3 hits.  Gamboa (.190) and Stephen (.265) had 2 each.  Stephen also had a double to go along with his HR.

Lakewood (19-25, 48-66)  lost to West Virginia, 3-0.  Tom Sutera (0-2, 7.00) pitched five innings and gave up 2 runs (1 ER) on 3 hits and a walk.  He struck out three.  Kevin Gowdy (4.79) tossed three innings and gave up one run on 4 hits and 2 walks.  He struck out three.  Albertus Barber (0.00) struck out one in a clean inning.  He has had 5 scoreless appearances (5.1 IP) since his elevation to Lakewood.  The BlueClaws were held to just 3 hits.

Williamsport (20-33)  dropped both ends of a DH to West Virginia, losing 8-2 and 2-1.

Game One:  Adam Leverett (1-2, 5.19) gave up 6 runs in 2.2 innings on 6 hits and 2 walks.  Gabriel Yanez made his Williamsport debut and gave up 2 runs in 4.1 innings on 4 hits and a walk.  He struck out five.  The Crosscutters scored a run in the fourth on Bryson Stott’s solo HR (3) and a run in the fifth on Jake Holmes’ RBI single. Stott had 2 of the Cutters 4 hits.  Nate Fassnacht had a double.

Game Two:  Chris Micheles (0-1, 1.93) struck out five batters in two innings of work.  Unfortunately, he allowed single runs in the first and second innings on 3 hits and 2 walks.  Junior Tejada (2.38) pitched four, no-hit innings, walking three.  The Cutters collected 3 singles and scored their only run when Corbin Williams crossed the plate when Jake Holmes was caught stealing second base.  Williams did grab his 25th base earlier.

GCL Phillies East (16-16)  lost to Yankees East, 6-1.  Jonas De La Cruz (3.00) made his second rehab appearance in the GCL.  He walked two in a scoreless inning.  His fastball sat 90-91 and touched 93 mph.  Carlos Betancourt (2.81) tossed four shutout innings, allowing 2 hits and striking out three.  His fastball sat 91-92, and touched 93 mph.  Score after five innings, Phillies, 1-0.

Hunter Milam (6.00) pitched a scoreless sixth, allowing a hard hit double over the right fielder’s head and a walk.  He threw 22 pitches in the frame.  He came out for the seventh and gave up 3 runs.  He lasted 1.2 IP and allowed 3 hits and 3 walks, while striking out two.  His fastball sat 88-89, touching 90 mph.  He throws a nice curve that had batters off balance and got a few strikes with it when it was in the zone.

Jose Ulloa (2.03) got the final out in the seventh after walking his first batter on 4 pitches.  The next batter flied out on the first pitch.  He stranded one inherited runner.  He got just two outs in the eighth before being lifted.  He went 1.0 IP and gave up 2 runs on 3 hits and 2 walks.  His fastball is 90-93 mph.  He lacks control.  He threw 2 balls to every strike until I got tired of charting.

Brendan Bell (6.23) got the final out in the eighth after hitting his first batter with a 2-2- pitch.  He stranded 2 inherited runners.  He gave up a run in the ninth on 2 hits. His fastball was 91-93 mph and he also threw a slider.

The Phillies scored their run on a wild pitch in the second inning.  Luis Matos (.257) had 2 of the Phillies’ 6 hits and an outfield assist.  Wilfredo Flores also had 2 hits and raised his BA to .400.

GCL Phillies West (22-11)  no game scheduled.

And this is how the MLB Top Thirty did –

  1. Alec Bohm, 3B/1B (.259): went 3-4 with an RBI, BB
  2. Adonis Medina, RHP (6-5, 4.36): DNP
  3. Bryson Stott, SS (.238): went 2-3 with a run scored, HR (3), RBI; DNP game two
  4. Adam Haseley, OF (.294): Optioned to Lehigh Valley on 8/8
  5. Spencer Howard, RHP (0-0, 3.38): DNP
  6. Luis Garcia, SS/2B (.195): went 0-3
  7. Francisco Morales, RHP (1-5, 4.14): DNP
  8. Enyel De Los Santos, RHP (5-6, 3.96): 5.1 IP, 5 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 3 BB, 4 K
  9. Mickey Moniak, OF (.266): went 1-4 with a BB
  10. Erik Miller, LHP (0-0, 1.50): DNP; DNP game two
  11. JoJo Romero, LHP (3-2, 7.62):  DNP
  12. Simon Muzziotti, OF (.285): DNP
  13. Jhailyn Ortiz, OF (.207): DNP
  14. Rafael Marchan, C (.208): DNP
  15. Nick Maton, SS/2B (.276): DNP
  16. Mauricio Llovera, RHP (3-4, 4.55): placed on the 7-day IL, elbow
  17. Cole Irvin, LHP (5-0,3.99): DNP
  18. Rodolfo Duran, C (.240): placed on the 7-day IL on 7/26, knee
  19. David Parkinson, LHP (8-7, 3.33): DNP
  20. Deivy Grullon, C (.287): went 0-3 with a BB
  21. Damon Jones, LHP (0-1, 10.20): DNP
  22. Kyle Young, LHP (1-3, 4.29): placed on the 7-day IL on 5/1
  23. Arquimedes Gamboa, SS (.190): went 2-5 with an RBI
  24. Daniel Brito, 2B/SS (.234): DNP
  25. Kyle Dohy, LHP (5-5, 6.60): 2.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K
  26. Dominic Pipkin, RHP (3-4, 5.84): DNP
  27. Kevin Gowdy, RHP (0-4, 4.79): 3.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 3 K
  28. Jamari Baylor, SS (2-7, .286): hasn’t played since 7/1, nursing a hamstring
  29. Cornelius Randolph, OF (.246): placed on the 7-day IL on 7/27
  30. Victor Santos, RHP (5-8, 3.57): DNP

DSL Phillies Red (35-16)  lost to the Twins, 7-3.

DSL Phillies White (32-25)  beat the Rangers2, 9-4.

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

The rosters and lists are up to date as of August 8th … there are 397 players in the org

Today’s Transactions (newest transactions in bold text)
8/8/19 – Phillies sent RHP Jerad Eickhoff on a rehab assignment to Reading
8/8/19 – Phillies activated RF Jay Bruce from the 10-day IL
8/8/19 – Phillies optioned Adam Haseley to Lehigh Valley
8/8/19 – Lehigh Valley placed 3B Mitch Walding on the 7-day IL, labrum tear
8/8/19 – Lehigh Valley placed C Matt McBride on the 7-day IL, calf strain
8/8/19 – Williamsport released RHP Adam Cox
8/8/19 – LHP Gabriel Yanez assigned to Williamsport from GCL East
8/8/19 – 3B Maikel Franco activated by Lehigh Valley
8/7/19 – RHP Jaylen Eichler assigned to GCL East (future)
8/7/19 – DSL White placed LHP Nathanael Bido on the 60-day IL
8/7/19 – DSL White placed RHP Alexis Herrera on the 60-day IL
8/6/19 – Lehigh Valley activated LHP Austin Davis
8/6/19 – Lehigh Valley placed RHP Fernando Salas on the 7-day IL
8/6/19 – RHP Jose Taveras assigned to Clearwater from Lehigh Valley
8/6/19 – Tom Windle assigned to Lehigh Valley from Reading
8/6/19 – Seth McGarry assigned to Clearwater from Lehigh Valley
8/5/19 – Reading sent RF Jose Pujols on a rehab assignment to GCL East
8/5/19 – Clearwater placed RHP Alejandro Requena on the 7-day IL
8/5/19 – Lakewood sent RHP Jonas De La Cruz on a rehab assignment to GCL East
8/5/19 – RHP Jonathan Petit assigned to DSL Red
8/5/19 – Raul Mendoza assigned to DSL White from DSL Red
8/5/19 – Victor Santos assigned to Lakewood from Williamsport
8/5/19 – Dominic Pipkin assigned to Williamsport from Lakewood
8/5/19 – Ezequiel Ventura assigned to DSL Red from DSL White
8/4/19 – Phillies activated 2B Brad Miller from the 10-day IL
8/4/19 – Phillies activated RHP Hector Neris
8/4/19 – Phillies optioned 3B Maikel Franco to Lehigh Valley
8/4/19 – Tom Windle assigned to Reading from Lehigh Valley
8/4/19 – Jose Taveras activated by Lehigh Valley
8/4/19 – Seth McGarry assigned to Lehigh Valley from Reading
8/4/19 – Kevin Gowdy assigned to Williamsport from Lakewood
8/4/19 – Taylor Lehman activated by Lakewood
8/4/19 – Cristian Lima released by DSL Red
8/4/19 – Carlos Valero activated by DSL Red
8/3/19 – Phillies sent 3B Mitch Walding outright to Lehigh Valley
8/3/19 – Pittsburgh claimed RHP Yacksel Rios off waivers from Philadelphia
8/3/19 – Lehigh Valley placed LHP Austin Davis on the Reserve List
8/3/19 – Reading sent RF Jose Pujols on a rehab assignment to GCL West
8/3/19 – Nick Williams activated by Lehigh Valley

47 thoughts on “Threshers Recap – 8/8/2019

  1. Cox was actually joking about his release last night when he was told. And Carlos Francisco is due for surgery. He

  2. So in sympathy with the big club getting 1 hit, the minor league teams go 1 – 7. Luckily 2 teams didn’t play. At least Bohm did his part to try to stop the slaughter. Unsuccessfully I might add.

  3. I appreciate the section showing how the top 30 did. I missed the explanation of what the colors designate, so will go back and look for the introduction of that section.

    1. Haseley demotion was smart imo. Keeping him at his young age away from a team that quit on its manager. I rather him not being around all the negativity of this team who isn’t even trying to win games.

      1. Aside from that possibility, he does need to be an everyday player, not a part timer. The choice was basically keep Haseley as a bench guy and lose Quinn to waivers or do what they did.

      2. He is returning in September anyways, I had some suspicions about the team quitting on Kap tho.

        In other fronts Gowdy appears to be improving.

          1. It is easy to say with hindsight. But at the time a decision needs to be made, Klentak’s options are limited to basically promoting Haseley early or DFA a young players (with hindsight again that’s easy because the Phillies did DFA Rios and Cozens).

            Cutch’s injury, Quinn’s health, Doobie’s suspension, AA and Nicks sucking —- what can Klentak do?

          2. Why is it “stupid” to give a player with an .840 OPS at AA and AAA at bats against major league pitching? Seems like a smart move to me. He handled himself well but the big club wants more experienced veterans for a playoff push. Seems logical to me. I don’t get why everyone is so upset.

            1. Yeah I don’t get the hand wringing over this. He was called up a little earlier than they wanted due to injuries but he got regular at-bats, held his own and now is back in AAA where they had planned for him to be anyway. There are other, actually legitimate things to criticize the team for.

            2. Promoting Haseley is probably one of the correct buttons that Klentak pushed this season. Haseley now proved to be an important piece whether as part of the team or a trade asset for TOR, Overvaluing a an unproven and young SP arms should rank higher in the stupid moves made by Klentak this year. Over relying on older RP arms to stabilize the bullpen is a close 2nd.

  4. It’s great that Gowdy has pitched nearly a full season since having surgery. Has anyone seen him pitch? Wondering what the velocity has been this year.

    1. Stephen’s success has come so far out of left field that most people are kind of ignoring it. I wonder what the scouting take on him would be right now.

          1. I will agree that stats are not the be all, end all, but can you name a player that didn’t have at least respectable stats (like Moniak has now) who went on to become a great player?

          2. “Minor league stats don’t matter” is not the correct take IMO.

            In my experience, there is a high correlation between great MLB players and great stats. And a Low correlation between great MLB players and terrible minor league stats. Some stats are certainly more important than others. But in general, good players put up good stats in the minors. IMO the most important stats for a hitter are – k rate, bb rate, ISO and stolen bases (if they have elite speed tool).

            Where fans go overboard is when they believe (due to cognitive bias) that good (or even decent) stats means that a prospect is going to be a good or great MLB player.

            there is an old saying with prospects, “don’t scout the stat line.” The reason is there is a long list of minor league players with great minor league stats that do not turn into even average major leaguers.

  5. Phillies unleashing a strong slate of SP’s throughout the farm today/tonight. JoJo Romero (LHV), Spencer Howard (Reading), Erik Miller (Williamsport), and Josh Gessner (GCL) are all sheduled to throw.

  6. Re: minor league stats, like so much in life, it depends. I saw a Fangraphs chat with McDaniel or Longenhagen (can’t remember which one) where they were asked “When do stats start to matter” and they answered AA.

    Sure, in the GCL or Sally, don’t scout the stat line at all. In the majors, it is, in fact, the stat line that matters — like, you can hate Hunter Pence’s swing, but his production in MLB is good, so ultimately the scouting opinion doesn’t matter at that level — the player is either productive, or not. In AA and AAA it’s tricky — the stat line sure as he** isn’t irrelevant, but it’s not everything.

    P.S. — agree, v1, Josh Stephen is having a very good year, given his age-to-level.

    1. Josh Stephen, three years ago, was actually graded the third best California HS OFer in his draft class ….behind buds Moniak and Blake Rutherford.

      1. Yes. Stephen was rated just ahead on Hunter Bishop in 2016. It took Bishop three years to put it all together (at ASU). Great to see Stephen starting to figure things out after the same amount of time. Not saying Stephen is the next Bishop. Bishop has not only put up eye popping numbers in college, but he is much more athletic than Stephen. Just saying it’s not crazy to see him begin to blossom after three years.

  7. v1, aren’t there also cases where a player is good throughout his climb through the system and becomes a good Major League player? He adapts to wherever he is and reaches a level where he may not be a great player, but can be a good one.?

  8. This isn’t Phillies related, but it’s pretty funny. July 2018 Pete Alonso defended his then AAA teammate Jeff McNeil from Keith Law dismissing him:

    I love Alonso saying “He’s also the only one on the team hitting above .300 at the moment. If it was so easy everyone would be doing what he’s doing.”

    And of course McNeil is having a phenomenal season this year, and might win the batting title.

    Stats start to matter at the highest levels of the minors.

        1. Ah, that’s his shtick.

          But it turns out hitting .342 in AA and AA (which is what McNeil did last year) is reasonably predictive of being able to hit in the majors. Not perfect — major league pitchers are better — but reasonably predictive.

          v1 mentioned cognitive bias above. We’re all subject to it — including scouts and prospect writers.Like with McNeil, Law did not think he was a good prospect and almost no amount of available evidence — for example, McNeil has put up 7.0 WAR in his first 164 MLB games — will change his mind! He had this exchange in his chat yesterday:

          “Mike: Jeff McNeil seems like an odd situation with him being 27 and finally being in the big leagues/MLB. What held him back from being a prospect?? General health or did he just improve?
          Keith Law: Missed several years – 2.5? – to injuries. Also has one tool, really, the hit tool, specifically his ability to put the ball in play, which tends to be harder to scout/not something you want to bank on in the absence of any other tools.
          Keith Law: I know he’s a fan favorite but by the time he’s arb-eligible he’ll be 30, and that skill he has does not typically age well.”

          I’m not suggesting that Law is biased at all against the Phillies or any particular Phillies prospect. But when you see a stubborn opinion of a prospect writer, understand that they are subject to the same cognitive biases that we all face.

          1. I happen to like it when he can go into an explanation of his projection.
            Also understand that is difficult to do on these quick quip chat rooms.
            Reminds me last year when someone asked about Darick Hall….his response…”he is a one-trick pony”…I chuckled.

  9. Josh didn’t come out of Left Field, I Been on this kid since the first video of him. Highly rated hitter , his problem is not a good fielder, That is what will hold him back, I don’t get the time he spends as D.H. I would keep him out there to improve, He is a better hitter than Moniak, but isn’t the fielder that M.M is, I Saw people talk about Haseley swing, Watch Josh its a classic swing. one of the best I ever saw.

  10. Lou Gehrig replaced Walley Pipped and Josh Stephen took advantage of Pujols Achilles injury . Good for him. Mike Trout was Graded by BA as a “C” level player with possibility of making MLB but No real impact. Look at Trout numbers? There are additional players on this Reading Team that get no recognition for for playing the game right Hustle, steal bases, work the count, hit behind runners, work a 0-2 count for BB, force contact for double plays and pop ups, have low BB and HR numbers and give the his team a chance by going 6 or more innings. But that’s Baseball Today so let’s enjoy their enthusiasm because It’s A Game, for Dreamers as well.
    Let the kids play and talent and pererance prevail because above “color coded list” is reality.
    Game has changed again from High Velocity to include “Out Pitch” and Control

        1. It’s a pretty glowing report about a fast rising prospect. One scout grades him out at being a legitimate five tool prospect. It doesn’t tab him the next Mickey Mantle (Grady Sizemore’s name is used, a big compliment at the time), but it certainly isn’t “C-level with no real impact.”

          1. Thanks.
            I figured he was a graded very high….a first rounder for sure….fourth HS position player taken in that draft.

  11. Starting Reading outfield next year will be Stephen in left, Muzziotti in center and Pujols in right with Vierling as the 4th outfielder. Stephen has not been a full year starter so he will repeat Reading with a chance for a promotion. IMO, of course.

    1. It appears to me there is a little extra to Keith law’s negativity when it comes to MM. I agree he is entitled to his opinion and mostly I don’t care about him, but to say “he is no good?” Sounds angry to me, and lacking objectivity to some degree, and to talk about young kids in a disparaging way is in poor taste and somewhat unprofessional. Just say he is an extra outfielder and move along.

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