Threshers Recap – 7/31/2019

Well, this season’s only trade deadline passed with the loss of very little of the Phillies’ prospect capital.  Whew!

The Phillies added several pieces at the cost of Austin Bossart, cash, and international dollars.  We are left to sweat a PTBNL, probably a guy from Williamsport.  That might hurt.

Clearwater (19-22, 55-52)  postponed.

Lehigh Valley (52-55)  beat Buffalo, 11-7.

Cole Irvin pitched 3.2 innings and gave up 4 runs on 7 hits and 2 walks.  Austin Davis pitched 1.2, 3-hit innings.  He walked one and struck out three.  Tyler Gilbert came in to strand 2 inherited runners.  He pitched 1.2 clean innings with 2 strike outs.  Josh Tols got touched for 3 unearned runs in 0;2 innings.  Edgar Garcia got the final 4 outs for his 4th save.

The IronPigs scored 3 runs in the third on Andrew Romine’s RBI single and a throwing error and Deivy Grullon’s RBI single.  They added 2 in the fourth on a fielding error and Romine’s RBI double, and 2 in the fifth on Logan Morrison’s solo HR (17) and Malquin Canelo’s RBI single.  They tacked on 3 runs in the seventh on RBI singles by Canelo, Phil Gosselin, and Ali Castillo.  They finished with a run in the eighth on Shane Robinson’s RBI single.

Lehigh Valley pounded out 18 hits.  Every player had at least one.  Castilo, Jose Pirela, and Canelo had 3 hits each.  Gosselin, Romine, and Morrison had 2 each.

Reading (25-17, 64-46)  beat Bowie, 3-1 in 11 innings.

Colton Eastman had a great start, seven innings, one run, 4 hits, no walks and 5 strike outs.  Jake Hernandez tossed a scoreless inning.  Addison got the win with two perfect innings.  Jeff Singer picked up his third save.

Reading tied the game in the seventh inning on Jose Antequera’s RBI double.  The game went to extra innings and the Phils tenth started with Josh Stephen on second base.  He couldn’t advance on a ground out, but reached third base on a fielding error by Jesmuel Valentin (remember him?) on a Raul Rivas ground ball.  Henri Lartrigue walked to load the bases.  Antequera ground into an RBI force out to plate the go ahead run.  Valentin threw errantly on the double play pivot and the Phils scored a second run on the play.

The Phils collected just 8 hits, 3 by Raul Rivas and 2 by Luke Williams.

Lakewood (16-21, 45-62)  lost to Augusta, 8-7.

Francisco Morales pitched 4.2 innings.  He gave up 3 runs on 4 hits and 2 walks.  He struck out four.  Omar Maldonado faced one batter and retired him.  Victor Santos pitched three innings and gave up 5 runs on 6 hits.  He struck out three.

The blueClaws scored single runs in the first inning on McCarthy Tatum ‘s sac fly in the first inning, Abrahan Gutierrez’ RBI single in the third, and Tatum’s RBI single in the fifth.  They opened up a 4-run lead with 4 runs in the sixth on Malvin Matos’ RBI single, a force out, Ben Pelletier’s RBI triple, and Tatum’s second RBI single.

Tatum and Pelletier had 2 hits each, Tatum had 3 RBI.

Williamsport (15-29)  beat Connecticut, 6-2.

Tyler Burch pitched 3.2 shutout innings.  He allowed 4 hits and struck out six.  Leonel Aponte pitched 3.1 scoreless, one-hit innings, also striking out six.  Alejandro Made allowed 2 runs in two innings but struck out four.

The Crosscutters scored 2 runs in the first inning on Kendall Simmons bases loaded walk and DJ Stewart’s sac fly.  They scored 3 runs in the fifth on Bryson Stott’s RBI double, Simmons’ sac bunt, and Rudy Rott’s RBI single.  And, they added a run in the eighth on Simmon’s solo HR (5).

Jhan Rojas went 2-4 with 2 runs scored and a triple.  Simmons went 1-3 with 2r runs scored, a HR, and 2 RBI.

GCL Phillies East (14-12)  split with Yankees East, losing 11-0 and winning 4-3.

Game One:  Rafael Marcano was lifted after 6 batters.  His inning went to shat after two-out, strike out/wild pitch.  He went on to walk two batters and force in a run.  I believe that he reached the 27-pitch limit in an inning that the Phillies enforce.  However, the game continued down the same rabbit hole for the bull pen.

Maikel Garrido got the third out in the first inning, stranding three inherited runners.  But, he didn’t pitch well after that.  He got two outs in the second then walked two batters, fell behind the next batter, and gave up a 3-run HR.  Garrido started the third with a walk and a strike out.  Then the Yankees teed off of him until he was lifted.  He gave up 6 runs on 3 hits and 3 walks in 1.2 innings.

Gabriel Cotto relieved and gave up a run-scoring single but followed that with 2 strike outs.  He kept throwing strikes for 3.2 innings and allowed 4 runs on 6 hits and a walk with 3 strike outs.

The Phillies had 5 singles, Jevi Hernandez (.293) went 2-3.

Game Two:  Gabriel Yanez tossed a solid four innings.  He allowed a first inning run on 2 singles and a walk.  The only batter to reach base after that was on a fielding error.  Yanez picked him off first.  Yanez went four innings, striking out three.  Brendan Bell followed with a clean inning and a strike out.  Carlos Francisco pitched the final two innings and gave up 2 runs on 2 hits, striking out three.

The Phillies scored 2 run in the fourth inning on RBI singles by Marcus Lee Sang and Vito Friscia.  They added a run in the fifth on Jose Tortolero’s sac fly.  They were the home team for this game at the Yankees’ complex, and walked off in the seventh on another sac fly by Tortolero.

Wilfredo Flores (.422) went 2-3.  Lee Sang and Friscia each went 1-3 with an RBI.  Lee Sang had 2 hits on the day.  Tortolero went 0-1 with 2 RBI.

GCL Phillies West (16-10)  no game scheduled.

DSL Phillies Red (33-12)  v. Cardinals Blue, 0-0, suspended in the eighth.

DSL Phillies White (29-21)  v. Brewers, 5-5, suspended in the seventh.

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

The rosters and lists are up to date as of July 31st … there are 400 players in the org

Today’s Transactions (newest transactions in bold text)
7/31/19 – Phillies designated RF Dylan Cozens for assignment
7/31/19 – Pittsburgh traded LF Corey Dickerson to Phillies
7/31/19 – Baltimore traded RHP Dan Straily to the Phillies for cash
7/31/19 – RHP Dan Straily assigned to Lehigh Valley
7/31/19 – RHP Colton Eastman assigned to Reading from Clearwater
7/31/19 – GCL West activated C Carlos Oropeza from the RL
7/31/19 – GCL West released C Carlos Oropeza
7/30/19 – Phillies signed FA RHP Blake Parker
7/30/19 – Phillies optioned Edgar Garcia to Lehigh Valley
7/30/19 – 3B Mitch Walding designated for assignment by the Phillies
7/30/19 – Phillies sent RHP Jerad Eickhoff on a rehab assignment to Clearwater
7/30/19 – RHP Jose Taveras assigned to Reading from Lehigh Valley
7/30/19 – Lehigh Valley activated 1B Logan Morrison from the 7-day IL
7/30/19 – C Jack Conley assigned to Reading from Clearwater
7/30/19 – Reading placed C Nerluis Martinez on the 7-day IL
7/30/19 – RHP Jack Perkins assigned to Clearwater from Lakewood
7/30/19 – Clearwater sent OF Ben Aklinski on a rehab assignment to GCL West
7/30/19 – C Rafael Marchan assigned to Clearwater from Lakewood
7/30/19 – C Juan Aparicio assigned to Lakewood from Williamsport
7/30/19 – C Mitchell Edwards assigned to Williamsport from GCL West
7/30/19 – RHP Engel Estevez assigned to GCL East from GCL West
7/30/19 – GCL East activated Engel Estevez from the RL
7/30/19 – GCL West activated RHP Robinson Martinez from the RL
7/29/19 – Lehigh Valley IronPigs activated LF Jose Pirela
7/29/19 – Reading Fightin Phils activated C Nerluis Martinez from the 7-day IL
7/29/19 – Phillies trade C Austin Bossart to the Mets for LHP Jason Vargas and cash considerations
7/29/19 – RHP Yacksel Rios designated for assignment by the Phillies
7/29/19 – Clearwater sent OF Ben Aklinski on a rehab assignment to GCL East
7/29/19 – LHP Jhordany Mezquita assigned to Lakewood from Williamsport
7/29/19 – LHP Taylor Lehman assigned to Williamsport from Lakewood
7/29/19 – RHP DJ Jefferson assigned to GCL East
7/28/19 – Phillies optioned LHP Cole Irvin to Lehigh Valley
7/28/19 – Phillies recalled RHP Edgar Garcia from Lehigh Valley
7/28/19 – Jose Taveras activated by Lehigh Valley
7/28/19 – RHP Julian Garcia assigned to Reading from Clearwater
7/27/19 – Manuel Silva assigned to Williamsport from Lakedwood
7/27/19 – Phillies transferred RHP Tommy Hunter from the 10- to the 60-day IL, forearm strain
7/27/19 – San Diego traded LF Jose Pirela to Phillies for cash
7/27/19 – LF Jose Pirela assigned to Lehigh Valley
7/27/19 – Lehigh Valley placed OF Jan Hernandez on the 7-day IL
7/27/19 – Reading placed LF Cornelius Randolph on the 7-day IL
7/27/19 – Clearwater sent OF Ben Aklinski on a rehab assignment to GCL West
7/27/19 – RHP Tom Sutera assigned to Lakewood from Williamsport

48 thoughts on “Threshers Recap – 7/31/2019

  1. The Dickerson PTBNL:

    “We are left to sweat a PTBNL, probably a guy from Williamsport. That might hurt”…….I just hope it is not O’Hoppe…..maybe another one of the deep catcher’s pool of prospects in ths sytem..

    1. For a rental, it wouldn’t be O’Hoppe. I just hope Dickerson isn’t on the IL with one thing after another. His groin pull may keep him out of action for a couple days.

  2. Good bye to Cozens and Walding, moves that seem long overdue. Gamboa is the only remaining position player on the 40 although he’ll be joined by Williams very soon.
    Bohm is really struggling now and he needs to fight through his slump. Good to see Eastman pitch so well even if I think he’s another 4A guys

    1. Any player that goes thru the process of DFA can be back where they started just not on the 40-man roster. So Walling, Cozens and others could be back on their teams’ minor league roster.

      1. They could but what’s the point? In the Phillies’ eyes, they are non-factors for the big club.

      2. Denny…Cozens and Walding need to move on…like Zach Green did.
        They need to get opportunities from a team that they see they have a better chance with.
        Bothers me…Klentak seems not to have the foresight or long range sighting to see these things and at least some return for them.
        Brancjh Rickey once said…better to trade a player a year too soon, than a year too late.
        Why Walding and Cozens were in this org in the spring is beyond me.

        1. Cozens ripped it in the spring and if he would have gone to AAA and got his head on right with a good stat line, he would have avoided his injury and be the starting LF now. But he does need a new start in life maybe with the Pirates or Orioles.

  3. Hope I’m wrong but watching Moniak against left handers 2 of the last 3 nights gives me concern for his being an every day outfielder at the MLB level.

  4. I was trying to figure out the Phillies equivalent of the package that the Astros gave up for Greinke. Both of their pitchers were pre-season top 100 and at AA ball. And Beer is a first round stud hitter. My best guess is that they probably gave up a package that is better than the equivalent of Howard, Medina and Haseley. Probably something like that. Bohm would have been the best of any player if he was in the mix IMO.

    I just think it is interesting because a lot of commenters felt we could get Greinke for cheap on prospects because of his salary.

    1. As part of that DBack return, Houston could easily afford to give up Beer….strictly a first baseman and surplus for the Astros….he was blocked, no way he was beating out 22-year old Yordan Alvarez already in Houston.
      J.B. Bukauskas even as a top 100…and apparently was sliding down….his control is poor and walks too many, even with a plus-plus slider.
      IMO Howard is going in the opposite direction.
      Corbin Martin equals Medina….and Medina is a year younger…both mid to end rotation guys.

      1. “Easily afford to give him up” because he is blocked doesn’t decrease his value. Beer is a stud hitter with serious power and in AA ball.

        My point is, they gave up a lot. The #3, 4, 5 and 22 ranked players from one of the top farms in all baseball.

        I can agree with the argument that Howard is the best of the entire group, but not by a lot. And the others in the Astros package are the second, third and fourth best across that group of 6 prospects. It was a very big package.

        1. You are correct his value as a hitter is high

          And this from the Arizona Republic:
          “Seth Beer is a left-handed hitting masher who owns a .309/.410/.564 line with 25 homers at High-A and Double-A combined. He is limited positionally; some view him as a first baseman at best, others as strictly a designated hitter.”

          So it would look like he will be their future first basemen..

          1. and as the Phillies know all too well, any team will put up with awful first base defense if the player can mash. Beer’s bat is elite and has been for a long time.

          2. I don’t want to hijack the thread any more than it has been (sorry Jimmy) but this conversation about Greinke is silly for 2 reasons

            A. We are not leading our division by 8 games with a WS line-up
            B. There was a 1/1000 chance he was waiving his NT to come here

            1. Not silly if you actually read what was written. I never suggested that he is coming here or that we should have given up that package to get him. I am simply doing a hypothetical scenario to compare packages. We discuss trade packages a lot on this blog and frankly I think most way over value our prospects. So it is good to have a reality check.

          3. that blocks Pavin Smith for the D-Backs, though they have played him some in right field this year. But Haseley and Huira, the next 2 picks, making good impacts in majors while he’s still in AA.

        2. RHP Corbin Martin has already reached the majors and could have mid-rotation potential, but he underwent TJ three weeks ago and could miss all of next season.
          So will not be effectively pitching again until his age25 season is well underway.
          Still J.B. Bukauskas has had spotty results in his minor league career and is viewed by some scouts as a future reliever, at best.

          Infielder Josh Rojas, utility guy.
          A lot of players….however still questionable on the expected outcome….Beer would appear to be the sole guy that will give them what they want.

          1. I don’t think that MLB teams view TJ as diminishing a player’s value that much. Martin was ranked as the 50th overall prospect by Fangraphs pre-season. He is a very good pitching prospect. That they have to wait a year is not a huge value destroyer.

            Bukauskas’ issues are with walks. His stuff and K rates are elite as are his ground ball rates. If he can cut down on walks then he is a #3 or #2 SP. that is a really good prospect.

            While I agree that Howard is a better prospect than either of them, I would not dismiss the package as being Beer is the sole guy. That is a heck of a haul.

        3. There is a bigger lesson to be learned from this, however. And that’s the price that can be extracted at the trade deadline for certain players, even for an older player who is the highest paid in baseball at his position. The assets that were dedicated to Greinke greatly exceed his intrinsic value, which is roughly captured by his salary alone (he’s paid like a 6 or 7 WAR player and that’s about what he’s on pace to produce – he’s being paid what he’s worth this year). But teams will pay a huge premium for a perceived elite talent who they believe can help bring them a championship. So the moral of the story is that if you’re going to get a free agent, pay extra and get the elite guy – he’ll be worth it either on your team or as a trade chip. And we saw that a few years ago with Aroldis Chapman and Andrew Miller, who they flipped at the deadline as rentals with huge returns – man, the Yankees are smart as hell.

          1. The one big difference in that specific over payment…….the Cubs in giving up on hot prospect at the time Gleyber Torres, accomplished their goal, and won the Series and Chapman made a difference in them getting there and winning it….the Yankees, otoh, have a great player in Torres but still have yet to get there.
            Most would agree…both teams prospered in that trade

      2. I thought to get a player like Greinke the negotiations revolved around primarily how much salary a team would assume or prospects to be traded.. In this case the Astros took on salary AND gave up top prospects.. I would say the Diamondbacks did well.

          1. Agreed. DBacks did about the best they could expect. Even replaced Grienke with a SP to keep this season alive.

            The Astros are one of the best Teams top to bottom I can recall in recent years. This move, was an all in move to increase their chances of adding another championship to this era … borderline dynasty. You gotta love it if you’re an Astros fan. Ballz move that I like to see. They are playing for the present, the future is always the future. It hedges their bet that Cole leaves and they get another year of high WS contention. Great move by their GM, and frankly any other gm who would’ve done the same would be foolish. Astros are in a unique position to strike

          1. Under the circumstances, that’s not a whole lot of money, Romus. Arizona indeed scored big here. Houston may have won the world series this year by adding Greinke, and it’s probably worth it to them…but it cost them.

            1. 8mark….DBacks scored big in quantity…..I am not sure on quality.
              Beer may be the sole gem in that exchange for the DBacks.
              Martin and JBB…..arms with differing issues.
              Rojas…..utility guy.
              I think Hazen did well in the one respect….getting the contract for the most part off the books on a 35 year old pitcher who may be ready to fall off the cliff after maybe his last harrah season.
              Stros….otoh, get that one short more for a WS ring…aka Phillies post- 2008 (2009 and 2010)

    2. Astros weren’t on Greinke’s no trade list – Phillies were. Doubt there was any way to get Greinke to Philly.

  5. Does Jakob Hernandez get enough love from us I mean the guy is a lefty Loogy 23 at AA I get that but his numbers are an eye popping .966 WHIP and 9.6 K/9

    1. I don’t know if the Hefty Lefty gets enough love from “us” … but … he’s always gotten mucho love from me. He has a long history of racking up K’s at every level (amateur and pro) he’s ever pitched.

  6. I would not have come close to the offer the Astros made for Greinke, and that is a positive move that we didn’t make. I don’t think he waived the NTC to come here, and if he did, I don’t think he succeeds here. I am glad we kept all of our guys. We can argue about not getting Stroman, but that is for the Open Discussion site.

  7. I mentioned several times that it was going to cost to get Grienke and people here balked at my comments. I dunno what was so hard to understand, he is one of the best pitchers in baseball right now and hasn’t shown signs of slowing up.

    1. See my post above. It’s not that it’s hard to understand it’s that the Astros paid so much more than his inherent value. It’s great the Phillies passed on him.

      1. His value is what they received for him. Esp when it’s coming from a team who wasn’t in NEED of him. Once again, he’s one of the bet pitchers in baseball and isn’t slowing up. Some thought Williams and Media would get the job done, that’s a joke.

      2. Why do you say they paid more than his value? He is a top 10 WAR starting pitcher, with a long track record of success and playoff experience. Those type of pitchers don’t grow on trees. And it is very rare that those players are on the trade market.

        This is what I don’t understand. We don’t want to go 6 years on a stud pitcher like Corbin because that is “too much.” And we don’t want to give up the prospect package for a top 10 pitcher like Grienke because that is too much. And we don’t want to use our first round picks on pitchers because they are too risky.

        So riddle me this…how TF are we going to get a great starting pitcher rotation anytime in the near future?

        1. They may have to change their tune with a FA like Gerit Cole this off season…at least Middleton may make them change their tune.
          He has to be the ‘Harper’ of this off-season for the Phillies.

        2. Hopefully by signing Gerrit Cole this offseason. Which is hope out of the all the moves you mention looks the best a few years from now.

          1. Let’s hope Cole can stay healthy here and avoid the plague caused by whatever routines the Phillies coaching staff have implemented. Reference Arrieta, Robertson, Hunter, Neshek

  8. Wild … Rojas currently leads the GCL with five triples in 74 AB. He is also one behind the NYPL leader with three triples in only 45 AB. (All the others on the leaderboard have played in three times as many games). He’s either incredibly lucky or ridiculously fast.

    1. Interesting to see his times out of the box to first compared to Corbin Williams.
      Maybe Mitch Ruppert can set up a foot-race between Johan Rojas and Corbin Williams.

    2. I like Rojas a lot as a prospect, so don’t get me wrong, but I think that looking at triples as a benchmark of a great hitter is not a good analysis. There are many reasons why a hit can be a triple that has nothing to do with how hard the ball is hit.

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