2017 Phuture Phillies Post Season Prospect Poll Results

The first Phuture Phillies post season prospect poll ended.  The criteria was as diverse as the responses I received.  Readers were asked to provide their prospect lists based on the player’s present value to the organization, their major league potential, their professional ceiling, their age at their current level, or whatever criteria you feel is important.  I received 43 prospect lists.

Here is the Phuture Phillies Readers’ Post Season Top 30 Prospect List.

Rank Player Total Points Total/43 Polls No. Polls 1st Place Votes 2nd Place Votes 3rd Place Votes
1 Scott Kingery 2069 48.12 42 22 12 7
2 Sixto Sanchez 2052 47.72 42 12 19 7
3 J.P. Crawford 1841 42.81 38 7 8 20
4 Franklyn Kilome 1757 40.86 40
5 Adam Haseley 1741 40.49 39 2
6 Mickey Moniak 1696 39.44 40 1 2 2
7 Jhailyn Ortiz 1614 37.53 37 1
8 Adonis Medina 1593 37.05 37
9 JoJo Romero 1530 35.58 37 1
10 Cornelius Randolph 1368 31.81 35
11 Roman Quinn 1305 30.35 32 1
12 Thomas Eshelman 1213 28.21 31
13 Ranger Suarez 1196 27.81 33
14 Dylan Cozens 1041 24.21 30 1
15 Carlos Tocci 1033 24.02 31
16 Seranthony Dominguez 1003 23.33 28
17 Drew Anderson 911 21.19 28
18 Nick Fanti 895 20.81 30
19 Daniel Brito 781 18.16 24
20 Darick Hall 738 17.16 24
21 Arquimedes Gamboa 731 17 23
22 Jorge Alfaro 693 16.12 15 1
23 Kyle Young 626 14.56 21
24 Cole Irvin 592 13.77 21
25 Spencer Howard 586 13.63 21
26 Francisco Morales 577 13.42 19
27 Kevin Gowdy 540 12.56 19
28 Jose Taveras 514 11.95 18
29 Elniery Garcia 490 11.4 18
30 McKenzie Mills 401 9.33 15

In an earlier post, I mapped out the weighted system I would use (foolishly hoping to control the size of the lists while describing the weighted system) –

  • top 10, then #1 gets 10 points, #2 gets 9 points, …
  • top 20, then #1 gets 20 points, #2 gets 19 points, …
  • top 25, then #1 gets 25 points, #2 gets 24 points, …
  • top 30, then #1 gets 30 points, #2 gets 29 points, …

If a substantial number of you turn in a top 50, I will curse you under my breath, and #1 will get 50 points, #2 will get 49 points, …

Of the 43 polls I received, the lengths varied –

  • 5 top 10s,
  • 8 top 20s,
  • 2 top 25s,
  • 11 top 30s, and
  • 2 top 50s.

That’s only 28 lists.  I received 15 others of various lengths –

  • 2 top 21s, and
  • 1 each – top 1,7,14, 15, 26, 32, 35, 36, 41, 42, 49, 51, and 58

So, I scored 50 points for #1, 49 for #2, … 1 point for # 50, and 1 point for 51 thru 58.

More random comments –

  • If you count the first, second, and third place votes, you will see that they add up to 42 not 43.  That’s because I received a “top one list”.  The count for second and third is correct, they will be one less than the total number of submissions.  The #1 prospect on the “top one” was Will Hibbs.  It was the only vote he got, good for 61st position.
  • That poll prevented anyone from being on every poll.  Fortunately, the number of responses kept the aberration of a “top one list” from having a negative affect on the overall results of the poll.
  • Because of this, I would still consider Kingery and Sanchez as having been unanimous selections.
  • Jorge Alfaro finished 22nd, but was only on 15 polls.  He was probably hurt by people not knowing he is still technically a prospect.  Had he been on a reasonable number of polls, he likely would have cracked the top ten.
  • Ninety-seven players received votes.  There are a number of players who were not in the top thirty who, if they were in the top thirty, would not seem out of place.  
  • I think this is a fair, reasonable list.  Individually, we might want “our guy or guys” ranked higher, but as a list that represents the sites’ thoughts, it’s a pretty decent list. Thank you for your serious participation.
  • And finally, if you don’t like the list, and didn’t participate, please don’t participate now with negative comments directed at the players or the participants.

Here are the remaining 67 players who received votes –

# Player Total Points Total/43 Polls No. Polls 1st Place Vote
31 Victor Arano 374 8.7 15
32 Jhordany Mezquita 356 8.28 14
33 Bailey Falter 333 7.74 15
34 Jonathan Guzman 269 6.26 10
35 J.D. Hammer 260 6.05 13
36 Brayan Gonzalez 253 5.88 10
37 Ben Pelletier 249 5.79 12
38 Cole Stobbe 227 5.28 11
39 Andrew Pullin 220 5.12 11
40 Jose Gomez 214 4.98 10
41 Jiandido Tromp 181 4.21 7
42 Deivi Grullon 179 4.16 6
43 Jesmuel Valentin 178 4.14 8
44 Connor Seabold 167 3.88 9
45 Eliezer Alvarez 163 3.79 7
46 Edgar Garcia 151 3.51 7
47 Anton Kuznetsov 125 2.91 5
48 Luis Garcia 110 2.56 5
49 Simon Muzziotti 109 2.53 7
50 Damek Tomscha 92 2.14 3
51 Greg Pickett 88 2.05 5
52 Alejandro Requena 82 1.91 4
52 Brandon Leibrandt 82 1.91 4
54 Ethan Lindow 67 1.56 6
55 Jake Holmes 63 1.47 2
56 Jose Pujols 61 1.42 2
56 Jakob Hernandez 61 1.42 3
58 Mark Laird 60 1.4 2
59 Cord Sandberg 53 1.23 2
60 Jake Scheiner 52 1.21 2
61 Will Hibbs 50 1.16 1 1
62 Alberto Tirado 46 1.07 5
63 Yacksel Rios 43 1 2
63 Mitch Walding 43 1 1
65 Juan Mendez 42 0.98 1
66 Drew Stankiewicz 41 0.95 1
66 Leonel Aponte 41 0.95 1
68 Jake Waguespack 40 0.93 5
69 Nick Maton 39 0.91 3
70 Ranfi Casimiro 36 0.84 1
71 Chace Numata 33 0.77 1
71 Grenny Cumana 33 0.77 1
73 Derek Campbell 32 0.74 1
74 Malquin Canelo 31 0.72 1
75 Dalton Guthrie 30 0.7 3
75 Trevor Bettencourt 30 0.7 1
75 Nick Pivetta 30 0.7 1
78 Harold Arauz 29 0.67 2
78 Austin Bossart 29 0.67 1
78 Edgar Cabral 29 0.67 1
78 Zach Eflin 29 0.67 1
82 Jake Thompson 28 0.65 1
83 Malvin Matos 27 0.63 1
84 Zack Coppola 25 0.58 1
85 Mark Appel 23 0.53 2
86 Julian Garcia 17 0.4 1
87 Grant Dyer 16 0.37 2
88 Josh Stephen 11 0.26 1
89 Rodolfo Duran 9 0.21 1
90 Mauricio Llovera 8 0.19 2
91 Luke Leftwich 5 0.12 1
92 Quincy Nieporte 3 0.07 1
93 Jeff Singer 2 0.05 1
94 David Parkinson 1 0.02 1
94 Austin Davis 1 0.02 1
94 Jesus Alastre 1 0.02 1
94 Keudy Bocio 1 0.02 1

 

16 thoughts on “2017 Phuture Phillies Post Season Prospect Poll Results

  1. Impressive that nearly 90 prospects got votes and some non prospects who graduated already too. But looking at the list many in the top 50 are at least decent prospects of varying degree. I remember a couple of years ago trying to do this list and by the time I got to number 30 it was more of who is that.

  2. I’ll tell you what – the group think on this was pretty decent. You could argue this and that, but it’s a pretty solid top 10.

    1. Agreed. I might reorder a bit, but I think the correct ten players are ranked. I’m a little surprised to see Andrew Pullin all the way down at #39 … maybe he’s one of those guys who’ve been around so long that people tend to forget about him?

  3. Last eight of the top 30….22 thru 30…all pitchers, and many with outstanding potential….org is pretty deep in pitching right now.

  4. Solid group think. Also if you look at the 31 to 40, I could make a case for them to be top 30. Some are a little green. Some are older and some haven’t been in the organization long enough to evaluate properly. But as Bob said above. A couple of years ago the last 5 picks or so were pretty hard to come by. I used to save my #30 every year for a guy who I thought had fallen from grace but could put it all together in the coming year or two. This time there were 10 or 15 guys where I couldn’t pick the best guy. Put the 10 or 15 guys on a dart board and throw blindfolded.

  5. Cool. Some of them I hit on, some of them I missed with flying colors.

    I also think that I might’ve been one of the oddballs who submitted a top 21 list.

    Great work by Jim and by everyone who submitted the list!

    Jeff

  6. I liked this way to take the poll because it eliminates all the competition that we have with the daily one in January. However, I think that many people who do not post depend on the politicking to make judgments. Thirty is a good number though either way..

  7. I like the group think, it’s a very reasonable list. The one guy that I didn’t include that I now think I should have is Aponte. The kid is very young and did very well in DL. We’ll see next year when he’s in the GCL.

  8. Agree with all of you. It was a lot of fun to create the list and the overall result is very reasonable. There’s much talent in the system! Including so much young pitchers, especially Lefties! Can’t wait for March already!

  9. The knowledge of so many here to get so many players listed is impressive. The system depth is very good but few superstar projections.
    I am interested in how Phillies use their depth. It appears to me that they will keep most and see who fails moving up the ladder. Packaging multiple prospects for an upgrade is tough. I figure they continue to trade fringe guys to take on salary, just not sure who it will be.

    Sanchez and Ortiz seem like best options for superstardom. Possible all stars seasons from Crawford, Kingery, Haseley, Medina, Romero. But certainly some may fail and others surprise. It is a fun time to see how the turn around goes.

    1. Well said, there are few star possibilities but many good player possibilities. The good thing is that Klentak and McPhail agree with us. They know they need to bring us a star in next year’s free agent class. Hopefully it happens because the competition will be fierce, and the cost exhorbitant. Klentak will get a chance in the next 15 months to make this a playoff worthy team for the next 5-10 years. Let’s hope he’s up to the task.

  10. This looks like a strong list. One thing that is interesting is the tiers we created. If you look at the point totals, numbers 1 and 2 are in one group; then, there’s a pretty big drop until the next tier, which is 3-9; then there’s another pretty big drop to the next tier, which is 10-13. It seems like we have 9 guys that are a step above. And 14 is a good cutoff: the next two guys are some of the more divisive prospects in the system with Cozens and Tocci.

    1. No sign of the kid we acquired from St. Louis for Juan Niascio? MLB Pipeline and Baseball America have him in the 14-16 range for us I see.

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