The first Phuture Phillies post season prospect poll ended. The criteria was as diverse as the responses I received. Readers were asked to provide their prospect lists based on the player’s present value to the organization, their major league potential, their professional ceiling, their age at their current level, or whatever criteria you feel is important. I received 43 prospect lists.
Here is the Phuture Phillies Readers’ Post Season Top 30 Prospect List.
Rank | Player | Total Points | Total/43 Polls | No. Polls | 1st Place Votes | 2nd Place Votes | 3rd Place Votes |
1 | Scott Kingery | 2069 | 48.12 | 42 | 22 | 12 | 7 |
2 | Sixto Sanchez | 2052 | 47.72 | 42 | 12 | 19 | 7 |
3 | J.P. Crawford | 1841 | 42.81 | 38 | 7 | 8 | 20 |
4 | Franklyn Kilome | 1757 | 40.86 | 40 | |||
5 | Adam Haseley | 1741 | 40.49 | 39 | 2 | ||
6 | Mickey Moniak | 1696 | 39.44 | 40 | 1 | 2 | 2 |
7 | Jhailyn Ortiz | 1614 | 37.53 | 37 | 1 | ||
8 | Adonis Medina | 1593 | 37.05 | 37 | |||
9 | JoJo Romero | 1530 | 35.58 | 37 | 1 | ||
10 | Cornelius Randolph | 1368 | 31.81 | 35 | |||
11 | Roman Quinn | 1305 | 30.35 | 32 | 1 | ||
12 | Thomas Eshelman | 1213 | 28.21 | 31 | |||
13 | Ranger Suarez | 1196 | 27.81 | 33 | |||
14 | Dylan Cozens | 1041 | 24.21 | 30 | 1 | ||
15 | Carlos Tocci | 1033 | 24.02 | 31 | |||
16 | Seranthony Dominguez | 1003 | 23.33 | 28 | |||
17 | Drew Anderson | 911 | 21.19 | 28 | |||
18 | Nick Fanti | 895 | 20.81 | 30 | |||
19 | Daniel Brito | 781 | 18.16 | 24 | |||
20 | Darick Hall | 738 | 17.16 | 24 | |||
21 | Arquimedes Gamboa | 731 | 17 | 23 | |||
22 | Jorge Alfaro | 693 | 16.12 | 15 | 1 | ||
23 | Kyle Young | 626 | 14.56 | 21 | |||
24 | Cole Irvin | 592 | 13.77 | 21 | |||
25 | Spencer Howard | 586 | 13.63 | 21 | |||
26 | Francisco Morales | 577 | 13.42 | 19 | |||
27 | Kevin Gowdy | 540 | 12.56 | 19 | |||
28 | Jose Taveras | 514 | 11.95 | 18 | |||
29 | Elniery Garcia | 490 | 11.4 | 18 | |||
30 | McKenzie Mills | 401 | 9.33 | 15 |
In an earlier post, I mapped out the weighted system I would use (foolishly hoping to control the size of the lists while describing the weighted system) –
- top 10, then #1 gets 10 points, #2 gets 9 points, …
- top 20, then #1 gets 20 points, #2 gets 19 points, …
- top 25, then #1 gets 25 points, #2 gets 24 points, …
- top 30, then #1 gets 30 points, #2 gets 29 points, …
If a substantial number of you turn in a top 50, I will curse you under my breath, and #1 will get 50 points, #2 will get 49 points, …
Of the 43 polls I received, the lengths varied –
- 5 top 10s,
- 8 top 20s,
- 2 top 25s,
- 11 top 30s, and
- 2 top 50s.
That’s only 28 lists. I received 15 others of various lengths –
- 2 top 21s, and
- 1 each – top 1,7,14, 15, 26, 32, 35, 36, 41, 42, 49, 51, and 58
So, I scored 50 points for #1, 49 for #2, … 1 point for # 50, and 1 point for 51 thru 58.
More random comments –
- If you count the first, second, and third place votes, you will see that they add up to 42 not 43. That’s because I received a “top one list”. The count for second and third is correct, they will be one less than the total number of submissions. The #1 prospect on the “top one” was Will Hibbs. It was the only vote he got, good for 61st position.
- That poll prevented anyone from being on every poll. Fortunately, the number of responses kept the aberration of a “top one list” from having a negative affect on the overall results of the poll.
- Because of this, I would still consider Kingery and Sanchez as having been unanimous selections.
- Jorge Alfaro finished 22nd, but was only on 15 polls. He was probably hurt by people not knowing he is still technically a prospect. Had he been on a reasonable number of polls, he likely would have cracked the top ten.
- Ninety-seven players received votes. There are a number of players who were not in the top thirty who, if they were in the top thirty, would not seem out of place.
- I think this is a fair, reasonable list. Individually, we might want “our guy or guys” ranked higher, but as a list that represents the sites’ thoughts, it’s a pretty decent list. Thank you for your serious participation.
- And finally, if you don’t like the list, and didn’t participate, please don’t participate now with negative comments directed at the players or the participants.
Here are the remaining 67 players who received votes –
# | Player | Total Points | Total/43 Polls | No. Polls | 1st Place Vote |
31 | Victor Arano | 374 | 8.7 | 15 | |
32 | Jhordany Mezquita | 356 | 8.28 | 14 | |
33 | Bailey Falter | 333 | 7.74 | 15 | |
34 | Jonathan Guzman | 269 | 6.26 | 10 | |
35 | J.D. Hammer | 260 | 6.05 | 13 | |
36 | Brayan Gonzalez | 253 | 5.88 | 10 | |
37 | Ben Pelletier | 249 | 5.79 | 12 | |
38 | Cole Stobbe | 227 | 5.28 | 11 | |
39 | Andrew Pullin | 220 | 5.12 | 11 | |
40 | Jose Gomez | 214 | 4.98 | 10 | |
41 | Jiandido Tromp | 181 | 4.21 | 7 | |
42 | Deivi Grullon | 179 | 4.16 | 6 | |
43 | Jesmuel Valentin | 178 | 4.14 | 8 | |
44 | Connor Seabold | 167 | 3.88 | 9 | |
45 | Eliezer Alvarez | 163 | 3.79 | 7 | |
46 | Edgar Garcia | 151 | 3.51 | 7 | |
47 | Anton Kuznetsov | 125 | 2.91 | 5 | |
48 | Luis Garcia | 110 | 2.56 | 5 | |
49 | Simon Muzziotti | 109 | 2.53 | 7 | |
50 | Damek Tomscha | 92 | 2.14 | 3 | |
51 | Greg Pickett | 88 | 2.05 | 5 | |
52 | Alejandro Requena | 82 | 1.91 | 4 | |
52 | Brandon Leibrandt | 82 | 1.91 | 4 | |
54 | Ethan Lindow | 67 | 1.56 | 6 | |
55 | Jake Holmes | 63 | 1.47 | 2 | |
56 | Jose Pujols | 61 | 1.42 | 2 | |
56 | Jakob Hernandez | 61 | 1.42 | 3 | |
58 | Mark Laird | 60 | 1.4 | 2 | |
59 | Cord Sandberg | 53 | 1.23 | 2 | |
60 | Jake Scheiner | 52 | 1.21 | 2 | |
61 | Will Hibbs | 50 | 1.16 | 1 | 1 |
62 | Alberto Tirado | 46 | 1.07 | 5 | |
63 | Yacksel Rios | 43 | 1 | 2 | |
63 | Mitch Walding | 43 | 1 | 1 | |
65 | Juan Mendez | 42 | 0.98 | 1 | |
66 | Drew Stankiewicz | 41 | 0.95 | 1 | |
66 | Leonel Aponte | 41 | 0.95 | 1 | |
68 | Jake Waguespack | 40 | 0.93 | 5 | |
69 | Nick Maton | 39 | 0.91 | 3 | |
70 | Ranfi Casimiro | 36 | 0.84 | 1 | |
71 | Chace Numata | 33 | 0.77 | 1 | |
71 | Grenny Cumana | 33 | 0.77 | 1 | |
73 | Derek Campbell | 32 | 0.74 | 1 | |
74 | Malquin Canelo | 31 | 0.72 | 1 | |
75 | Dalton Guthrie | 30 | 0.7 | 3 | |
75 | Trevor Bettencourt | 30 | 0.7 | 1 | |
75 | Nick Pivetta | 30 | 0.7 | 1 | |
78 | Harold Arauz | 29 | 0.67 | 2 | |
78 | Austin Bossart | 29 | 0.67 | 1 | |
78 | Edgar Cabral | 29 | 0.67 | 1 | |
78 | Zach Eflin | 29 | 0.67 | 1 | |
82 | Jake Thompson | 28 | 0.65 | 1 | |
83 | Malvin Matos | 27 | 0.63 | 1 | |
84 | Zack Coppola | 25 | 0.58 | 1 | |
85 | Mark Appel | 23 | 0.53 | 2 | |
86 | Julian Garcia | 17 | 0.4 | 1 | |
87 | Grant Dyer | 16 | 0.37 | 2 | |
88 | Josh Stephen | 11 | 0.26 | 1 | |
89 | Rodolfo Duran | 9 | 0.21 | 1 | |
90 | Mauricio Llovera | 8 | 0.19 | 2 | |
91 | Luke Leftwich | 5 | 0.12 | 1 | |
92 | Quincy Nieporte | 3 | 0.07 | 1 | |
93 | Jeff Singer | 2 | 0.05 | 1 | |
94 | David Parkinson | 1 | 0.02 | 1 | |
94 | Austin Davis | 1 | 0.02 | 1 | |
94 | Jesus Alastre | 1 | 0.02 | 1 | |
94 | Keudy Bocio | 1 | 0.02 | 1 |
Impressive that nearly 90 prospects got votes and some non prospects who graduated already too. But looking at the list many in the top 50 are at least decent prospects of varying degree. I remember a couple of years ago trying to do this list and by the time I got to number 30 it was more of who is that.
I’ll tell you what – the group think on this was pretty decent. You could argue this and that, but it’s a pretty solid top 10.
Agreed. I might reorder a bit, but I think the correct ten players are ranked. I’m a little surprised to see Andrew Pullin all the way down at #39 … maybe he’s one of those guys who’ve been around so long that people tend to forget about him?
Last eight of the top 30….22 thru 30…all pitchers, and many with outstanding potential….org is pretty deep in pitching right now.
Solid group think. Also if you look at the 31 to 40, I could make a case for them to be top 30. Some are a little green. Some are older and some haven’t been in the organization long enough to evaluate properly. But as Bob said above. A couple of years ago the last 5 picks or so were pretty hard to come by. I used to save my #30 every year for a guy who I thought had fallen from grace but could put it all together in the coming year or two. This time there were 10 or 15 guys where I couldn’t pick the best guy. Put the 10 or 15 guys on a dart board and throw blindfolded.
Cool. Some of them I hit on, some of them I missed with flying colors.
I also think that I might’ve been one of the oddballs who submitted a top 21 list.
Great work by Jim and by everyone who submitted the list!
Jeff
Thank you for your participation, Mrs. Hibbs.
No, no, no. I did the research on that one. Definitely NOT a family member.
I liked this way to take the poll because it eliminates all the competition that we have with the daily one in January. However, I think that many people who do not post depend on the politicking to make judgments. Thirty is a good number though either way..
I like the group think, it’s a very reasonable list. The one guy that I didn’t include that I now think I should have is Aponte. The kid is very young and did very well in DL. We’ll see next year when he’s in the GCL.
Is there a difference in the level of talent between dsl white and red?
Agree with all of you. It was a lot of fun to create the list and the overall result is very reasonable. There’s much talent in the system! Including so much young pitchers, especially Lefties! Can’t wait for March already!
The knowledge of so many here to get so many players listed is impressive. The system depth is very good but few superstar projections.
I am interested in how Phillies use their depth. It appears to me that they will keep most and see who fails moving up the ladder. Packaging multiple prospects for an upgrade is tough. I figure they continue to trade fringe guys to take on salary, just not sure who it will be.
Sanchez and Ortiz seem like best options for superstardom. Possible all stars seasons from Crawford, Kingery, Haseley, Medina, Romero. But certainly some may fail and others surprise. It is a fun time to see how the turn around goes.
Well said, there are few star possibilities but many good player possibilities. The good thing is that Klentak and McPhail agree with us. They know they need to bring us a star in next year’s free agent class. Hopefully it happens because the competition will be fierce, and the cost exhorbitant. Klentak will get a chance in the next 15 months to make this a playoff worthy team for the next 5-10 years. Let’s hope he’s up to the task.
This looks like a strong list. One thing that is interesting is the tiers we created. If you look at the point totals, numbers 1 and 2 are in one group; then, there’s a pretty big drop until the next tier, which is 3-9; then there’s another pretty big drop to the next tier, which is 10-13. It seems like we have 9 guys that are a step above. And 14 is a good cutoff: the next two guys are some of the more divisive prospects in the system with Cozens and Tocci.
No sign of the kid we acquired from St. Louis for Juan Niascio? MLB Pipeline and Baseball America have him in the 14-16 range for us I see.